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Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

orthod0ks posted:

I did a 250 mile camping trip with some friends last year, and it took us drat near 8 hours. That included a number of gas stops as a couple have old UJMs that get about 100 miles on a tank, and we weren't in a rush, but a 600 mile day sounds brutal. Maybe I just haven't grown large enough riding balls though.

That being said, we're leaving for another camping trip on Saturday, 270 miles, that I'm pretty psyched for, and there have been talks of a longer trip later this summer, so maybe my opinion will change.

Making mileage is all about seat time. If you're not sitting on the bike for 2+ hours at a time, you're doing it wrong. No stopping besides gas stops if you can avoid it. With that in mind though, slower touring is much more fun and interesting and leaves you with better stories. Given the choice, I'd rather take the extra time over trying to make huge miles every day.

Also, speeding doesn't help you make up significant amounts of time. Set it at 5 over and forget about it, additional gas stops and constantly scanning for the cops will wear you out and cause more time loss.

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clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard

Slim Pickens posted:

Another backfire in Ballard this Wednesday the 18th, anyone interested?

What is this? I googled the website but it doesn't really make it clear what specifically is going on.

orthod0ks
Mar 2, 2004
anger is a gift

Z3n posted:

Making mileage is all about seat time. If you're not sitting on the bike for 2+ hours at a time, you're doing it wrong. No stopping besides gas stops if you can avoid it. With that in mind though, slower touring is much more fun and interesting and leaves you with better stories. Given the choice, I'd rather take the extra time over trying to make huge miles every day.

Also, speeding doesn't help you make up significant amounts of time. Set it at 5 over and forget about it, additional gas stops and constantly scanning for the cops will wear you out and cause more time loss.

Yea, makes sense. It definitely was fun taking our time. We ran into a couple riding cross country (we were in New York, they had left from LA) on an F800GS that were really fun to talk to, and she was gorgeous (the girl was cute too - I want to say Hawaiian, but that's wrong). We also hit some of the best twisties I'd ever ridden around a reservoir (here).

SlightlyMadman
Jan 14, 2005

Z3n posted:

Making mileage is all about seat time. If you're not sitting on the bike for 2+ hours at a time, you're doing it wrong. No stopping besides gas stops if you can avoid it. With that in mind though, slower touring is much more fun and interesting and leaves you with better stories. Given the choice, I'd rather take the extra time over trying to make huge miles every day.

Also, speeding doesn't help you make up significant amounts of time. Set it at 5 over and forget about it, additional gas stops and constantly scanning for the cops will wear you out and cause more time loss.

When you say "set it" do you mean you'd recommend removing the spring on your throttle, or do you just mean mentally?

Raven457
Aug 7, 2002
I bought Torquemada's torture equipment on e-bay!

SlightlyMadman posted:

When you say "set it" do you mean you'd recommend removing the spring on your throttle, or do you just mean mentally?

Cruise control, if you have one. Lot of folks have a throttle lock that they use for long distance interstate mile burning. But yeah, mentally works, too.

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SlightlyMadman
Jan 14, 2005

Haha, holy poo poo I had no idea you could get cruise control on a motorcycle. I never bother with it in my car, because I find the interactivity keeps me alert, but I'm a little nervous about wrist strain after that many days holding a throttle open.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
I have a cheap plastic clip-on throttle boss I use for interstate hauls. I can take my fingers off the throttle and wrest my palm on the boss, it does wonders for wrist strain.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

SlightlyMadman posted:

When you say "set it" do you mean you'd recommend removing the spring on your throttle, or do you just mean mentally?

Oh, mentally. But I have used throttle locks before, my favorite was a Vista Cruise on the ZZR1200. Cheap, functional, and no stupid clip to mess with my throttle control.

Depending on how strong your throttle return spring is, sometimes you can just rest your hand on top of the controls. Removing the spring on the throttle is a bad idea for a variety of reasons.

SlightlyMadman
Jan 14, 2005

Z3n posted:

Oh, mentally. But I have used throttle locks before, my favorite was a Vista Cruise on the ZZR1200. Cheap, functional, and no stupid clip to mess with my throttle control.

Depending on how strong your throttle return spring is, sometimes you can just rest your hand on top of the controls. Removing the spring on the throttle is a bad idea for a variety of reasons.

This is the only thing like that I can find for the Bonneville:
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/4769/428/

My only concern is that it's not clear if you still have the ability to manually control the throttle when it's set? I'd have to encounter a situation where an emergency stop is required and be unable to disengage it in time.

I think I'll try a throttle-boss style clip type first, since it seems to allow the most freedom of quick reaction.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar
It just makes your throttle sticky, you can easily roll it shut.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

SlightlyMadman posted:

This is the only thing like that I can find for the Bonneville:
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/4769/428/

My only concern is that it's not clear if you still have the ability to manually control the throttle when it's set? I'd have to encounter a situation where an emergency stop is required and be unable to disengage it in time.

I think I'll try a throttle-boss style clip type first, since it seems to allow the most freedom of quick reaction.

All of the throttle locks like that (including the vista cruise) work by increasing the friction at the throttle tube. So all you need to do is just roll the throttle shut a little harder. I've accidentally ridden around on friend's bikes with the throttle lock engaged, it made getting on the throttle smoothly hard until I figured out what was going on, but wasn't a big deal.

SlightlyMadman
Jan 14, 2005

Ah cool, so it's sort of like a parking brake in that way, heh.

I guess the real question is whether or not it's $100 worth of better than one of the $20 plastic clips?

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

SlightlyMadman posted:

Ah cool, so it's sort of like a parking brake in that way, heh.

I guess the real question is whether or not it's $100 worth of better than one of the $20 plastic clips?

I'd probably go with this:
http://www.casporttouring.com/cst/motorcycle/Vista-Cruise/16022.html

Or you could modify the cheaper one to work, which is what I did. It was a little fiddly, but not too bad.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar

SlightlyMadman posted:

Ah cool, so it's sort of like a parking brake in that way, heh.

I guess the real question is whether or not it's $100 worth of better than one of the $20 plastic clips?

My current bike came w/ a throttlemeister ($100), I prefer the vista cruise.

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer

clutchpuck posted:

What is this? I googled the website but it doesn't really make it clear what specifically is going on.

I'm assuming you found this site. http://www.backfiremoto.com/

Basically just a gathering for people on vintage bikes and cafe racers that occurs almost monthly from may to august or so. A lot of other bikes show up, too. Even with the lovely weather, there were probably 30 cafes, choppers, mopeds and other bikes. The coolest I saw was a 4 cylinder 2-stroke. Had no idea what it was other than that, it was streetfightered and pretty much debadged. I'll probably bring my camera along this time, too.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Fun Shoe
Throttle lock type of mechanism that seems pretty simple. I'm interested, but to be honest I think I'd go with a throttle rocker.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


Z3n posted:

I did 730 miles on the DRZ in one day, and then another 620 the next day without any problems. I was pretty beat, but it went fine. That seems doable to me, if you're planning on just riding that day, and not sightseeing or anything else.

For some reason I woke up at 4am this morning thinking about this trip. Instead of leaving Friday morning and doing 3/4 of the trip in one day and 1/4 the next I'll just leave after work Thursday, ride until I'm tired then finish it Friday. Won't be rolling into my brother's graduation party to surprise him but this will give me an extra day and should be a bit easier on me.

SlightlyMadman
Jan 14, 2005

So my friend who usually drives his RV out is of course skipping it this year for the first time in like 15 years. Anyways, no hope of a tow back in that case.

My other thought is there's a company called JCMotors that will ship a motorcycle across the country. I could always ride it to Reno and have them pick it up, then fly back home and have them deliver it. It feels awfully like cheating, but I'm having trouble finding a way to get enough time off work to handle 7+ days on the return trip, if that's really what I'd need to expect.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar

SpannerX posted:

Throttle lock type of mechanism that seems pretty simple. I'm interested, but to be honest I think I'd go with a throttle rocker.

I don't find throttle rockers help since you still can't take your hands off the bar. Not a big fan personally.

orthod0ks
Mar 2, 2004
anger is a gift

n8r posted:

I don't find throttle rockers help since you still can't take your hands off the bar. Not a big fan personally.

They help for cramp hands, which I get because I sometimes grip too tight.

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.
Low content post, but I'm going to be taking an MSF course in the next couple months and I'm super excited to start riding. My only real experience with bikes was puttering around on this super old little 50 cc motor scooter/cycle on my grandpa's ranch when I was a little kid. Bikes look like a fun way to get around and living in the south bay area, there are lots of extra bonuses like riding in carpool lanes during rush hour and only paying 2.50 instead of 5 bucks to cross the san mateo bridge. I'm heavily leaning towards a ninja 250 as my first bike, although I am somewhat concerned about it moving my large frame (6'2" 220 lbs) on the aggressive freeways around here. I want to be someone who makes motorcycle riding a safe part of their lives, not a statistic.

the walkin dude
Oct 27, 2004

powerfully erect.
Take the MSF then test-ride 250's and Ninja 500's. See which one fits you better.

Gnaghi
Jan 25, 2008

Is this a good first bike?
I used to have a throttle rocker on my Ninja all the time which makes it completely comfortable (I get some wrist pain after awhile), but as a result my hand ends up stretched out over it and onto the front brake lever. Not only might it be making my throttle control lovely but I noticed I unconsciously squeeze the brake a few mm in the middle of turns when rolling on the throttle...not good.

MotoMind
May 5, 2007

All of you who have stripped Phillips bolts or screws on your motorcycle, listen up.

Japanese motorcycles do not use American Phillips.

The standard used on Japanese motorcycles is JIS Phillips which has a different profile.

Purchase a JIS Phillips bit.





Forward this to 5 people or your motorcycle will turn into a goat.

MotoMind fucked around with this message at 17:44 on May 19, 2011

Bixington
Feb 27, 2011

made me feel all nippley inside my tittychest

MotoMind posted:

Purchase a JIS Phillips bit.




Well gently caress me.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
As you'll often end up with a combo of JIS bolts and Phillips head bolts, you can differentiate between them by the little dot stamped on the JIS bolt. You can see it in their demo picture.

This is also why people always complain about stuck carb screws. The screws aren't that bad but they're nearly always JIS.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.

Z3n posted:


The screws are made of literally the softest alloy that the carb companies could source. They will deform at the mere hint of photon impact.


Fixed that for ya.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

JP Money posted:

Fixed that for ya.

Stop limpwristing it ;)

Impact drive helps too.

the walkin dude
Oct 27, 2004

powerfully erect.
Weathersman has been shady lately. Constant 50-90% chance of rain for the past 5 days, and it's been mostly beautiful weather. Was riding to work when this rainshitstorm caught me off guard 2 miles from work, and had to lanesplit like an rear end in a top hat through rush hour traffic to work cuz I was wearing all leathers. Then I begged my boss to park it outside the front door (the only covered area around here) so my poor bike wouldn't be soaking wet. Permission granted.



Just how bad is rain for leathers?

SlightlyMadman
Jan 14, 2005

It's just water.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Use it as an excuse to clean and condition them, it'll be fine.

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen
I don't hear the cows complaining.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
After a rainy 500 mile I5 schlep, the good news was my buffalo hide jacket is pretty much form-fitting. The bad news: all of the glue in my boots dissolved.

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer
Finally uploaded my pics from Backfire 24 here in Seattle. A lot of cool bikes came out that day.







I wish he would've rode it there, but when the only thing stopping you is a piece of felt on the rear wheel, I can't say I blame him.


One of two Indians I saw there, it was by far the nicest.








This dude knows how to park a DRZ :haw:


A Sunbeam? Never even heard of it, but it was an awesome oddball bike.






To compensate for their small stature, the moped chooses to gather in tight packs to fend off attacks from hungry motorcycles.








The best tires belonged to a Super Duke.


It was a pretty drat cool event, I'll definitely be at the next one if the weather's nice.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
Oh man, the Indian with the suicide shift is sick as hell, I love old Indians.

The wife just barely made it to Ride West last night, for a couple new beakster pieces, before the whole staff bailed for Backfire. I'm going to have to check this out next month when I am not busy. Looks like fun.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Awesome pictures. Too bad one wasn't going on when I was up there, would have loved to wander around and check out bikes. :)

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

MotoMind posted:

All of you who have stripped Phillips bolts or screws on your motorcycle, listen up.

Japanese motorcycles do not use American Phillips.

The standard used on Japanese motorcycles is JIS Phillips which has a different profile.

Purchase a JIS Phillips bit.





Forward this to 5 people or your motorcycle will turn into a goat.

Who has phillips heads that pointy :psyduck: or maybe I just have a mix of both so I never notice when I choose the appropriate size

Slim Pickens
Jan 12, 2007

Grimey Drawer
I was screwing around with ideas for my bike in photoshop, thought I'd share.

Saga
Aug 17, 2009
Sunbeams were often used for sidecar rigs. You can sort of see the logic just looking at that S7. If I didn't have to pay for it, I'd love an S7 or an S8 for cruising around the West Country on sunny days and maybe taking down to the Goodwood Revival once a year. Not a sporty classic, but I imagine quite a soothing one.

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ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib
Top tip for getting rid of spilled fuel, residue and associated smells, even diesel out of fabrics and off surfaces:

Use a strong-ish solution of Daz washing powder. I just cleaned out the bilges of my boat on recommendation from some of the sailing forums.

ReelBigLizard fucked around with this message at 10:35 on May 20, 2011

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