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CubanMissile posted:That was a really good episode. Instead he says exactly the wrong thing, then gets killed by dumb poo poo like shurikens. So while I like his methodology, realistically he couldn't beat Sasuke even with 11 sharingans, wood release, dna mods, and his final sealing technique. Raikage essentially beat Sasuke (using what, 2 or 3 moves?) and only lost his arm. Danzo lost 11+ lives.
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# ? May 12, 2011 18:32 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 03:37 |
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I was really really wanting karin to stay dead but the preview pretty much annihilated any hope of that. Women in this show are just abhorrent.
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# ? May 12, 2011 18:41 |
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I wonder how many times I've actually seen, through flashbacks, Itachi's "hate me, cling to life" speech. Probably literally 30+
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# ? May 12, 2011 19:58 |
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Angry Grimace posted:I wonder how many times I've actually seen, through flashbacks, Itachi's "hate me, cling to life" speech. Probably literally 30+ That seems a conservative estimate.
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# ? May 12, 2011 21:06 |
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uG posted:Instead he says exactly the wrong thing, then gets killed by dumb poo poo like shurikens. So while I like his methodology, realistically he couldn't beat Sasuke even with 11 sharingans, wood release, dna mods, and his final sealing technique. Raikage essentially beat Sasuke (using what, 2 or 3 moves?) and only lost his arm. Danzo lost 11+ lives. True, but the fighting style he employed with based on being pretty devil may care with those lives.
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# ? May 12, 2011 21:42 |
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uG posted:He could have finished Sasuke when he had the chance, but instead he had to get him riled up by talking about Itachi. Then we could have gotten to see Danzo vs Madara, and how Madara would have tried to defeat Shisui's dojutsu. Madara was starting up his Hoover no Jutsu when Danzo raised his blade. Sasuke would have gotten out either way. I'd imagine it's pretty tough to fight when you have to keep an eye (or 11) out for a guy who can just bypass your extra lives.
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# ? May 12, 2011 22:20 |
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CubanMissile posted:True, but the fighting style he employed with based on being pretty devil may care with those lives. Tonfa posted:Madara was starting up his Hoover no Jutsu when Danzo raised his blade. Sasuke would have gotten out either way. I'd imagine it's pretty tough to fight when you have to keep an eye (or 11) out for a guy who can just bypass your extra lives. He also very likely had the option at the end of todays episode if he had decided to genjutsu Sasuke instead of saving it for Madara. Remember, Shisui's dojutsu is probably the second most coveted dojutsu besides Susano, effectively making Danzo one of the most powerful characters of his time (even if the battle doesn't portray that). uG fucked around with this message at 00:03 on May 13, 2011 |
# ? May 13, 2011 00:00 |
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Yeah I do have some problems with the battle, was just going with an explanation that isn't Sasuke's plot armor feat. infinite chakra, hulking up and debuffing Aura of Bad Decisions. Too bad, Danzo was an interesting guy. I'm noticing a worrying increase in flashbacks. The pacing is slipping, Sasuke vs. Bee was less than 2 episodes and it kicked rear end. Here's hoping we're not creeping back into 4TNaruto vs. Orochimaru territory. Edit: Trying to update the OP but apparently Somemanga is going private and I can't find non-poo poo chapters to link to for the anime->manga crowd anywhere else Tonfa fucked around with this message at 14:23 on May 13, 2011 |
# ? May 13, 2011 00:30 |
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I don't think we can approach that level of content stretching again. Next week's preview looks a little interesting, but we'll know for sure how they're going to do it when we see the preview for two weeks from now.
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# ? May 13, 2011 00:52 |
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Kingtheninja posted:I don't think we can approach that level of content stretching again. Why bother stretching content when you can spend 90% of the episode recapping old content.
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# ? May 19, 2011 20:27 |
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Slave posted:Why bother stretching content when you can spend 90% of the episode recapping old content. Yeah, this week's episode was a double dose of insufferable by being full of recaps and Sakura.
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# ? May 19, 2011 22:45 |
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I can see why they decided to make Sakura a chuunin with stratagems such as singlehandedly taking on an opponent ten levels above her while leaving her team helpless to defend themselves in enemy territory.
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# ? May 20, 2011 11:39 |
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CubanMissile posted:I can see why they decided to make Sakura a chuunin with stratagems such as singlehandedly taking on an opponent ten levels above her while leaving her team helpless to defend themselves in enemy territory.
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# ? May 20, 2011 16:03 |
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uG posted:Yea somebody tell Sakura that the Will of Fire is a guys club only.
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# ? May 20, 2011 16:11 |
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JazzFlight posted:I just really hate how her character has been handled after Sasori. She was actually competent back then and now she's back to being weak and useless... What a waste. She just incapacitated an entire squad by herself.
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# ? May 21, 2011 01:44 |
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Only because they were, amazingly, acting even dumber than she was.
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# ? May 21, 2011 02:19 |
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You'd think she'd just use those super effective sleep balls on Sasuke...
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# ? May 21, 2011 02:22 |
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Guess I'm with the rest of you guys in being disappointed by Sakura. This episode in particular was painful because of majority being recap filler. In addition I think it was ridiculous to use magic sleep inducing gas to incapacitate three team members and allow here to arrive just in time to interrupt Sasuke killing her companion.
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# ? May 21, 2011 05:10 |
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Well that was an annoying episode. I knew as soon as she started the inner monologue while she was running the entire episode was about to be wasted on flashbacks. Ugh. I'm assuming Sakura's little defection at the end there is some kind of ploy to either detain or in some other way undermine Sasuke's plans because even she can't be pathetic enough to sell out her village and all her friends for a middle-school crush. Then again this is Sakura we're talking about. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 10:52 on May 24, 2011 |
# ? May 24, 2011 09:49 |
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I've really held out for a long time on Sasuke. I've been in Naruto's corner, hoping that the peaceful option will prevail. I mean, the show wants you to side with Naruto against all odds, since the noble choice in his scenarios seem so impossible, but he eventually overcomes everyone's expectations. However, Sasuke is just SOOOO unlikeable now that I can't even understand why anyone could feel hope for this guy. He was never really a friend to Naruto in the first series, no matter how much they try to frame the flashbacks now. He's also repeatedly stated that he will never return to his old life/village. He's killed or injured tons of people, and the show doesn't even give the viewer any hints that he's secretly tring to spare lives if possible. Hell, he was 2 steps away from executing Karin in the last ep. Man, just gently caress this guy already. How much can he do before Naruto realizes that Sasuke is a dangerous rear end in a top hat?
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# ? May 24, 2011 20:04 |
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JazzFlight posted:I've really held out for a long time on Sasuke. I've been in Naruto's corner, hoping that the peaceful option will prevail. I mean, the show wants you to side with Naruto against all odds, since the noble choice in his scenarios seem so impossible, but he eventually overcomes everyone's expectations. However, Sasuke is just SOOOO unlikeable now that I can't even understand why anyone could feel hope for this guy. He was never really a friend to Naruto in the first series, no matter how much they try to frame the flashbacks now. He's also repeatedly stated that he will never return to his old life/village. He's killed or injured tons of people, and the show doesn't even give the viewer any hints that he's secretly tring to spare lives if possible. Hell, he was 2 steps away from executing Karin in the last ep. Naruto is Retarded Ninja Jesus, he will never learn. He may be able to learn Quadruptle Shin Rasengan Hadokens but he still can't even talk to Sakura without getting slapped halfway across Konoha. He will believe in the power of friendship until he dies or Sasuke dies.
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# ? May 25, 2011 08:14 |
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JazzFlight posted:I've really held out for a long time on Sasuke. I've been in Naruto's corner, hoping that the peaceful option will prevail.
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# ? May 25, 2011 19:07 |
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Slave posted:You really expect the peaceful option to not prevail? I mean I'm sure there will be one or two mega Naruto/Sasuke throwdowns with summons and demons and eyes and lots of clones getting instantly popped and rasengans and poo poo but you just know that in the end the three are all going to live happily ever after and all will be forgiven Sasuke on the other hand just wants to kill people, and beyond that, I don't think he really gives a crap about anything.
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# ? May 25, 2011 19:13 |
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I remember how I felt after watching the episodes where Madara lays out for Saskue Itachi's real motivations. I was seething and absolutely furious at Danzo and the Elders. They were a bunch of smug machiavellian douche bags and I was hoping Saskue would march into Konoha and reveal the truth about them to everyone. Strangely, I didn't find Danzo's death all that satifsying on the revenge front. In fact I thought it was pretty poignant. He was clearly misguided but his intentions were mostly altruistic. One thing I think is really interesting is how Pain, Madara, and Danzo, who are all villain characters, all have these plans to bring peace to the Ninja World. It's an interesting dyanmic twist on typical villains and makes them seem much more like real characters as opposed to just foils for the protagonist. A high point in the series was Naruto and Pain's philosphical debate on how to stop the cycle of violence, hatred, and revenge, and achieve real, lasting peace. I nearly teared up when Naruto was talking to Pain about the book Pain inspired Jiraiya to write. Anyway, getting back to Saskue, after nearly killing Karin he seems like an even bigger rear end in a top hat than ever before. He's always been a little poo poo, gifted among his peers but drivin not just by revenge but also jealousy because he was never able to get anywhere near his brothers truly elite genius. Even now he's just proving how he's not half the man Itachi was.
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# ? May 25, 2011 22:21 |
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Beautiful Ninja posted:He will believe in the power of friendship until he dies or Sasuke dies. That's kind of the point.
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# ? May 26, 2011 04:59 |
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Well this week's episode was worse than last week's. It isn't total filler I guess, but Naruto wakes up, escapes the hotel and runs towards sasuke/sakura. That's about all the actual content. Next week looks a little better though.
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# ? May 26, 2011 15:22 |
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Kingtheninja posted:Next week looks a little better though. I like how they have the balls to actually give us a preview of filler consisting of past content
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# ? May 26, 2011 18:37 |
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Kingtheninja posted:Next week looks a little better though. Yeah, I'm excited. I've been wondering what would happen in a Saskue vs. Kakashi fight.
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# ? May 26, 2011 20:31 |
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Slave posted:I like how they have the balls to actually give us a preview of filler consisting of past content They just seem to want to start the filler sooner each episode. This week the first thing we got was filler, now they're not even waiting till the episode to get into it. I'm guessing that next week we get filler courtesy of Kakashi.
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# ? May 26, 2011 23:57 |
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Why not just rerun old episodes with narration from one of the characters, this is getting pretty loving ridiculous.
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# ? May 27, 2011 01:21 |
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Seriously just get a silhouette of theatre chairs and have Naruto Sakura and Kakashi in them just riffing on past episodes or just loving SOMETHING here. They've seriously stretched about half a manga chapter here into over 2 episodes. HALF A CHAPTER.
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# ? May 27, 2011 02:37 |
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Looks like it's about time to ignore this show for another thirty weeks.
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# ? May 27, 2011 03:01 |
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I think the best way I can describe Sasuke is as an emo kid who actually has the power to do something about his indescribable pain that you know nothing about. Frankly, I find him pretty two dimensional.
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# ? May 27, 2011 03:12 |
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I still love how Itachi knew way back when that Sasuke would listen and follow any villain he spoke to. Itachi was the best. Dewey Cox's father should just follow Sasuke around all day repeating the "wrong kid died." line over and over again.
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# ? May 28, 2011 05:07 |
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CubanMissile posted:I still love how Itachi knew way back when that Sasuke would listen and follow any villain he spoke to. Itachi was the best. Dewey Cox's father should just follow Sasuke around all day repeating the "wrong kid died." line over and over again. For some reason I have a feeling Itachi has pretty much preplanned this entire series. Or at least any plot relating to Madara.
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# ? May 28, 2011 06:43 |
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Speaking of Itachi, I think it was quite a stretch to expect the audience to consider him a "good guy" when they revealed the whole twist about his past. He still killed his entire extended family in cold blood, women and children all, just because maybe they would have started a coup. I find it hard to believe that every single Uchiha was in favor of the revolution plan or was even aware of it, since Sasuke obviously didn't know anything about it.
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# ? May 28, 2011 15:59 |
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It does seem a bit much especially when you think about people like the older woman sasuke passes on his way to school. How can that sweet old lady be a part of some vicious coup?
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# ? May 28, 2011 16:23 |
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Kingtheninja posted:It does seem a bit much especially when you think about people like the older woman sasuke passes on his way to school. How can that sweet old lady be a part of some vicious coup? A ninja sees through deception
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# ? May 28, 2011 19:27 |
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To be fair, Shisui's eye can explain why anyone did anything at any point.
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# ? May 28, 2011 21:47 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 03:37 |
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Kingtheninja posted:It does seem a bit much especially when you think about people like the older woman sasuke passes on his way to school. How can that sweet old lady be a part of some vicious coup? The village elders wanted the same thing we want: a ninja world without Uchiha eyeball bullshit. Too bad they didn't go far enough.
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