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Mechafunkzilla posted:Sambo guy here. You probably won't find too many sambo McDojos, just because sambo has virtually no name recognition so someone looking to make a buck with subpar training most likely won't call their place a sambo gym. Awesome, I think I'd be more interested in Sambo after your description. I was off-base on what I imagined Krav Maga to be, I figured since they were both combative that they would be similar. I still wouldn't pass up on trying it if given the opportunity, but if legit instruction is really rare in the US I'll just pass on that for now until I can really distinguish the good stuff from the gimmicks. I'm interested in Sambo for a couple different reasons I guess. The physical training aspect is definitely part of it, especially since I need to increase my endurance / work on cardio in addition to hitting the gym. I would love to compete at some level eventually, and I'm also just really interested in the history and learning the techniques behind the style. Using it as self-defense is honestly probably my last concern, since 99% of the time I'd just run anyway and if I was that paranoid about being attacked I'd probably just go get a concealed carry license or something instead. If it helps me out someday cool, but that's not why I'd be doing it.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Just make a sports analogy. If you play basketball for two years and know the mechanics of how to do every type of shot, crossover, and pass, it doesn't mean you've gotten as good as you can get at them, be able to do them consistently in a game, or that you won't pick up new moves and get better as you continue to play. Actually i said basically that after just blank facing him for like 30 seconds out of shock at how weird that question was. Also I, you know, enjoy doing it, so even if I was a some jiu-jitsu jesus that had a BB after 6 months, I would still show up every day. People just make this weird distinction between martial arts, and sports or other hobbies. It's all that eastern mystique crap people have been fed from pop culture, combined with lovely martial artists covering their crappy skills with bullshit.
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Xguard86 posted:People just make this weird distinction between martial arts, and sports or other hobbies. It's all that eastern mystique crap people have been fed from pop culture, combined with lovely martial artists covering their crappy skills with bullshit. The Seagal Legacy
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mewse posted:The Seagal Legacy Uh excuse but have you seen Anderson Silva and Machida's last fights? Seagal is legit, ladies and gentlemen.
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I don't train. I've learned all of the vast secrets of my art. Prepare to die.
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mewse posted:I don't train. I've learned all of the vast secrets of my art. Prepare to die. Finally a ninjitsu representative in the thread 
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mewse posted:I don't train. I've learned all of the vast secrets of my art. Prepare to die. Is that you, Ashida Kim?
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Reis posted:What's the consensus on Tony Cecchine? Is he legitimate or not? Don't know of any students of his that are known in the competitive MMA or Grappling world. I know he claims that he trained under Lou Thez, but then I remember how Matt Furey also claimed that Karl Gotch trained him until Karl Gotch himself went, "Bullshit he trained under me." I seem to recall that of the two, Cecchine was considered the more legit one. Furey's claim of training under Gotch got disproven by a hand written letter from Gotch, AFAIR.
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After a 2 month lay off because I didn't feel like I was improving like I wanted to, I went back to class. After doing stand up and getting some nice shots in on the teacher going regular speed, and doing the same to his brother, I felt good. After doing MMA sparring, where I sweeped a college wrestler and arm triangled him while he was punching me in the face, I felt better. After doing a light grapple only roll with a guy who's new and has only been coming for a month and getting complimented on my great base (a first), I felt even better. When I got home I saw my lip is swollen and bleeding, I have a black eye, and my nose is bruised. I feel great. I love this sport.
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henkman posted:I love this sport. Our Gay Sport. I wish I knew what the appeal was, but I just can't quit it.
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henkman posted:When I got home I saw my lip is swollen and bleeding, I have a black eye, and my nose is bruised. I feel great. Marks of honor.
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Anyone know anything about this gym? http://www.ultfitev.com/
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Started cross training into BJJ from Judo and JJ. Love it.
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mewse posted:Anyone know anything about this gym? http://www.ultfitev.com/ For those unfamiliar with this great fighting art: Muay Thai is known as "King of the Ring" in kick boxing circles. Techniques feature punches, kicks, elbows, knees, standing grappling and head-butts to wear down and knock out the opponent. Muay Thai has also proven very effective outside the ring and has been embraced enthusiastically by practitioners of a variety of self-defense, sporting, military and law enforcement activities. For self defense and overall fitness, few arts compare to Muay Thai! And . . . it's fun! Does MT really have headbutts?! 
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Any advice on escaping a mount or side control? I'm getting pretty decent at not ending up there in the first place, but once I'm there in pretty much hosed. I've been shown one mount escape that works for me (control an arm and leg on the same side and buck them off) but it's pretty easy to predict and avoid. I've been shown how to try and hip escape out of side control if they aren't controlling my head and how to fix that if they are, but I guess I'm either not doing it right or they're seeing it coming and preventing it because I have never once managed to so either of these things during a roll.
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I was having the same problem, and still am to a certain extent. I don't have any sure fire escapes for you, but I did notice that the most useful thing I've done so far was to practice surviving while side controlled or mounted. Protecting my neck, keeping my elbows in, etc, means that I'm not on a 3 second countdown to being submitted, which gives me more time to work escapes. From mount I like the same escape as you. I sometimes alternate bridging with a hip bump escape, so that they lean back to avoid getting bridged over, and then you can sit up and grab their arm. Of course, how much this works depends on how good they are.
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niethan posted:Does MT really have headbutts?! no, i believe burmese boxing does which certainly makes sense in my worldview where the burmese are se-asia's comic book villains
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Smegmatron posted:Any advice on escaping a mount or side control? I'm getting pretty decent at not ending up there in the first place, but once I'm there in pretty much hosed. I've been shown one mount escape that works for me (control an arm and leg on the same side and buck them off) but it's pretty easy to predict and avoid. I'm not really good from there either, but I really like to try to catch one of their legs to go back in half-guard when someone gets side control on me. So, I either shrimp to get parallel to them so I can bridge and turn them over or I shrimp to get parallel to them and catch one of their legs with mine to go in half guard.
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niethan posted:Does MT really have headbutts?! Muay Thai today is all about the ring and competition rules, but it has historical roots back to more NHB fighting. So, there might technically be headbutts in there, just like how there are throws and wristlocks floating around, but I don't think any MT fighters practice that stuff today.
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RE: side control/mount When Im mounted, what works for me against most white belts is the bridge+roll. If Im rolling with more experienced people, I just try to survive and bide my time and wait for a more opportune time to bridge+roll or something else. Side control, just shrimping out the best I can... I hate being stuck in side control. I try to create space by putting my forearm against their face/neck/throat and pushing away.
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Blood for the blood god. Dominance competition tomorrow. Shoulder/neck is still busted, but I think chances of anyone there tomorrow reading this thread and recognizing me are slim. Should be fun, second somebody has a cross face, I'll need to tap. Haven't trained in 3 weeks and slightly drunk. Let's roll. 
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I went to my first proper BJJ class run by a Gracie affiliated person, what can I do about my skin getting torn to shred, specifically my knees and toes. I don't want to go back and be bleeding everywhere within seconds.
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You can wear kneepads, or just harden up and deal with it. I went with the second option when I started out a month or so ago and it isn't much of a problem at all know. If it's more than just the surface of the skin being a bit raw though, probably go for the kneepads.
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Adolfo Castro posted:Blood for the blood god.   
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willie_dee posted:what can I do about my skin getting torn to shred, specifically my knees and toes. Tape it up for now, the skin will harden and get thicker pretty quickly.
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willie_dee posted:I went to my first proper BJJ class run by a Gracie affiliated person, what can I do about my skin getting torn to shred, specifically my knees and toes. Like everyone else said, it will harden itself eventually and you won't got matburn as bad anymore. However I'm a pussy and wear a knee cover on my right knee because that poo poo hurts.
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henkman posted:Like everyone else said, it will harden itself eventually and you won't got matburn as bad anymore. However I'm a pussy and wear a knee cover on my right knee because that poo poo hurts. Knee covers or knee pad are still a good idea. It takes a while for the skin of your knees to harden up so you won't have to live through the grossness and pain. Also, they help keep your knee warm so you don't injure them and that's definitely a good thing. Toes on the other I'd just wait 'till they harden up. You could always tape them but unless they are actually injured I think this would be over the top.
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Adolfo Castro posted:Let's roll. Let's have at thee! Beat them the gently caress up! Oops, incorrect. Please practice sport with your pals and friends until someone says someone wins. Illegal Username posted:This post is so goddamn manly it made a beer crack itself open in my fridge. I drank a jallu to toast the post, which is more manly than self-cracking beers
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Smegmatron posted:Any advice on escaping a mount or side control? I'm getting pretty decent at not ending up there in the first place, but once I'm there in pretty much hosed. I've been shown one mount escape that works for me (control an arm and leg on the same side and buck them off) but it's pretty easy to predict and avoid. You might want to have a look at this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=?3F77YgmAoo0 Roy Harris, my instructor's instructor is an amazing dude and a badass. He's also very very technical to boot. EDIT: Some Roy Dean side escapes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=?9S3nDygvk6A Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 20:13 on May 20, 2011 |
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Smegmatron posted:Any advice on escaping a mount or side control? I'm getting pretty decent at not ending up there in the first place, but once I'm there in pretty much hosed. I've been shown one mount escape that works for me (control an arm and leg on the same side and buck them off) but it's pretty easy to predict and avoid. Two months ago I began judo and the newaza class is run by the high ranking students who cross train BJJ. Seconding Roy Dean's youtube vids in helping me with the positional escapes. Here's the full mount vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iB5nlIeZR8 I've lurked the A/T MA threads for a while now but now that I've started judo, I've decided to check in. I'm loving both the tachiwaza and newaza classes at my dojo so far. Thanks to all the judo players from the last thread that helped in convincing me to go out and try it. 
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Smegmatron posted:Any advice on escaping a mount or side control? I'm getting pretty decent at not ending up there in the first place, but once I'm there in pretty much hosed. I've been shown one mount escape that works for me (control an arm and leg on the same side and buck them off) but it's pretty easy to predict and avoid. Advice and videos will help but it sounds like you really just need more mat time to formulate a clearer picture of what is happening and what you can do.
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willie_dee posted:I went to my first proper BJJ class run by a Gracie affiliated person, what can I do about my skin getting torn to shred, specifically my knees and toes. I once met a man who rolled in something that was a bit like one of those clean room bunny suits. I have no idea what it was called, or how I'd find out, though. Apparently he had really sensitive skin, but really loved grappling. He must have, to wear that poo poo in the middle of a muggy Asian summer.
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ManicParroT posted:I once met a man who rolled in something that was a bit like one of those clean room bunny suits. I have no idea what it was called, or how I'd find out, though. Apparently he had really sensitive skin, but really loved grappling. He must have, to wear that poo poo in the middle of a muggy Asian summer. I now want to go to a practice wearing a Green Man suit.
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Adolfo Castro posted:Blood for the blood god. I didnt even know there was a dominance comp on lol we still need to have a roll ! I need a new business shirt or two for work but im probably gonna end up spending that money on a new gi and maybe a rashie haha
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Smegmatron posted:Any advice on escaping a mount or side control? I'm getting pretty decent at not ending up there in the first place, but once I'm there in pretty much hosed. I've been shown one mount escape that works for me (control an arm and leg on the same side and buck them off) but it's pretty easy to predict and avoid. Maybe the escape works, but you're doing it wrong? You could have all kinds of angles and stuff wrong. If you've been 'shown' a move, it doesn't mean you actually can pull it off. Even if you have drilled it twenty times it doesn't guarantee it will always work. But, I'm going out on a limb here, because I've been training every day for the past four years and I'm still improving my very basic side control escape. So, maybe you know the right thing, but you're not executing the move correctly. And unless you're a blackbelt, that's probably the case Xguard86 posted:Muay Thai today is all about the ring and competition rules, but it has historical roots back to more NHB fighting. So, there might technically be headbutts in there, just like how there are throws and wristlocks floating around, but I don't think any MT fighters practice that stuff today. I got wristlocked standing by a kickboxer at Vos gym last week. Very embarrassing. It was with mma gloves and the guy can grapple, but it is primarily a Muay (Dutch) school. I've also seen others like gently caress around with it. They do do a lot of little sweeps and throws though. Very surprised as I wasn't prepared for them at all when they started hitting me up with them. (Headbutts I don't know, but look at Bas Rutten's self defense tapes. He's all about a properly timed headbutt - i think he starts his dengadangadeng combination from it even. Maybe it used to be taught more extensively lol.)
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Yey, I won by division. Four person round robin, two by submission.  My mate doesn't know the meaning of the word "comp is over" apparently. Adolfo Castro fucked around with this message at 17:06 on May 21, 2011 |
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Congratulations! You should post fite vidjas.
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Congrats! I've been using a north-south choke out of side control a lot lately. A lot of the time I'll find an unguarded neck when I'm positioning to get a kimura or armbar. Can someone post some trustworthy videos or give advice for this? edit: \/\/\/ sweeeeet thanks Angora fucked around with this message at 20:39 on May 22, 2011 |
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Angora posted:Congrats! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkFHJHC58qc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcQtNN8jK10
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Yey, Ultra Sound was negative on tendon damage to the shoulder, CT scan showed a bulging disk which is probably causing the tingling in fingers and pain in shoulder. So just a neck injury, who needs spines right?
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