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Yeah, reminded me of that quote as well.
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# ? May 21, 2011 01:41 |
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Nucleic Acids posted:Didn't some goon once source a Battlestar Galactica quote to George Washington and have it stay on his page for two years? http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22god+wills+the+world+according+to+his+design%22 Just remember, in five years when somebody says this quote on TV and all the Galactica fans call them on it, and then they claim Galactica just used it because it sounded good, you can thank the goon hive mind and the 4chan user that will claim he started the whole thing. Yaos fucked around with this message at 05:29 on May 21, 2011 |
# ? May 21, 2011 05:27 |
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jojoinnit posted:Really Schlafly, Chinggis Khan? I just have to go back and say something before this is buried too far back - Mongol historians, the current Mongolian government, and most academc groups do use Chinggis Khan as the preferred romanization, rather than Ghengis. So, Schafly is technically right in how he makes his students write it. Well, that's one useful thing I learned from my freshman seminar on Mongolia/Siberia
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# ? May 21, 2011 05:35 |
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Because I can't access Conservapedia, I have a question for goons who can: What's the most racist and sexist thing you can find on that site? For a website that hails the enlightened mindset of the people who lived in the freaking Dark Ages, something like that shouldn't be too hard to find, I imagine.
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# ? May 21, 2011 13:09 |
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Yaos posted:It's still there and it's been there long enough that if somebody removes it they will be called a traitor and a liar. In fact, it's been there so long people are now parroting it on other sites. I can safely post it without fear of deletion because I am a liberal liar. The original quote, or the quote Galactica stole from George Washington, uses 'universe' instead of 'world'.
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# ? May 21, 2011 14:05 |
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mintskoal posted:I'm not sure how you would offer a degree program focused on the belief in no god but obviously it's not offered because it's shameful. Ask the folks at Pfizer College; they're beginning to offer a degree in secularism.
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# ? May 21, 2011 17:23 |
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PrBacterio posted:Am I the only one who finds that absolutely terrifying? It's like something taken literally (and I use that word advisedly) right out of 1984: History doesn't exist, there is no actual truth to it, there is only what the records say, and the records are ours to be 'corrected' in any way we see fit. Yes, you're the only one. It's conservapedia, not the loving library of congress.
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# ? May 21, 2011 17:42 |
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PrBacterio posted:Am I the only one who finds that absolutely terrifying? It's like something taken literally (and I use that word advisedly) right out of 1984: History doesn't exist, there is no actual truth to it, there is only what the records say, and the records are ours to be 'corrected' in any way we see fit.
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# ? May 21, 2011 18:53 |
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Angry Avocado posted:Because I can't access Conservapedia, I have a question for goons who can: What's the most racist and sexist thing you can find on that site? Here are a few choice sexist statements. It's awkward for me to read too much of the site because I'm in a blocked infidel country too and it's really slow going through proxies. "Modern feminists refuse to accept the innate [gender] differences as an explanation for the underrepresentation of women academics in math and science." "Yet the view that masculinity and femininity are inherent (God-given) traits is disputed by feminists and some other social activists (see Homosexual agenda)." This is the entirety of the Women in Combat article: quote:Women in combat are not only less effective than men, but they reduce the effectiveness of the men they serve with. This has been proven in Poland and in Israel. To be fair to PrBacterio, I think he was referring to the fact that the quote has been picked up and used seriously by other people and is asserted as a fact.
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# ? May 21, 2011 19:31 |
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blue squares posted:Yes, you're the only one. It's conservapedia, not the loving library of congress. It is used primarily for a circle of home schooled children. Children are learning this garbage as fact and tested. That's pretty loving lovely.
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# ? May 21, 2011 19:48 |
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Killin_Like_Bronson posted:It is used primarily for a circle of home schooled children. Children are learning this garbage as fact and tested. That's pretty loving lovely. What?! Do you have a source on this?
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# ? May 21, 2011 19:53 |
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Killin_Like_Bronson posted:It is used primarily for a circle of home schooled children. Children are learning this garbage as fact and tested. That's pretty loving lovely.1 1This actually happened.
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# ? May 21, 2011 20:08 |
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blue squares posted:What?! Do you have a source on this? Conservapedia http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia Conservapedia posted:Conservapedia, launched on November 21, 2006, is a conservative, family-friendly Wiki encyclopedia. It was founded by teacher and attorney Andrew Schlafly with the help of several students from his fall 2006 World History class. In May 2008, Schlafly and some of his homeschooled students appeared on the CBC news program The Hour (see: Videos on Conservapedia ).
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# ? May 21, 2011 20:12 |
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Ok, that doesn't mean it is actually being used. Nothing on that site can be trusted. edit: You're just trolling me, right? Got me.
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# ? May 21, 2011 20:21 |
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blue squares posted:Ok, that doesn't mean it is actually being used. Nothing on that site can be trusted. Wow, Andy Schlafly biography posted:Conservapedia developed as a result of his World History course. Andrew Schlafly and several of his top students continue to lead the project, and most of his students have contributed entries to it. Edit: I thought you were trolling me. METAPHOR: Pants exist for your legs and you insist the pants are just for show? Cromulent_Chill fucked around with this message at 20:26 on May 21, 2011 |
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MOLLUSC posted:This is the entirety of the Women in Combat article: I love how Schlafly uses his mom as a source. For those who don't know, Phyllis Schalfly is the renowned anti-feminist who made a very successful career out of telling other women not to have careers. The apple didn't fall far from the tree, apparently.
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# ? May 21, 2011 21:03 |
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Corrupt Politician posted:
The Bobby Boucher school of writing
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# ? May 21, 2011 21:17 |
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Corrupt Politician posted:I love how Schlafly uses his mom as a source. For those who don't know, Phyllis Schalfly is the renowned anti-feminist who made a very successful career out of telling other women not to have careers. From what I remember (before my country got blocked), Conservapedia uses itself as a source on multiple occasions. And I don't just mean by quoting things Schafly said, but by actually using a footnote [1] that links to another Conservapedia-page, rather than an off-site source. It's ridiculous. Thanks for the quotes, MOLLUSC, although I thought they were kind of tame. So I went to check out an online encyclopedia I do have access to and found this: Phyllis Schlafly posted:"What does a woman want out of life? If you want to love and be loved, marriage offers the best opportunity to achieve your goal…Marriage and motherhood give a woman new identity and the opportunity for all-round fulfillment as a woman" Most of her quotes are babytalk, and show vigorous conviction that all a woman really wants is to churn out babies and spend the rest of her days caring for them. Phyllis Schlafly posted:Schlafly believes that motherhood is the best job option for women seeking career fulfillment, and that "it is ludicrous to suggest that [other jobs] are more self-fulfilling than the daily duties of a wife and mother in the home" Phyllis Schlafly posted:Schlafly believes, even if men really do earn more than women, this is beneficial to society as a whole, because, "we want a society in which the average man earns more than the average woman so that his earnings can fulfill his provider role in providing a home and support for his wife who is nurturing and mothering their children" Inequality is good, because it makes the kitchen look like a more rewarding alternative. (Single men and women don't exist in her universe, by the way.) Phyllis Schlafly posted:"a satisfying and rewarding relationship between a man and a woman can last through the years only if she is willing to give him the appreciation and admiration his manhood craves". Whereas a woman’s needs are active, in that she needs to love, a man’s needs are passive, i.e. he needs to be loved, appreciated, and admired. Nothing makes a woman happier than to be a servant for her man. And I saved the best (worst) for last: A true testimony to what Schlafly's idea is of a healthy relationship dynamic: Phyllis Schlafly posted:"By getting married, the woman has consented to sex, and I don't think you can call it rape."
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# ? May 21, 2011 21:40 |
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http://www.conservapedia.com/Soccer#Soccer_and_socialismquote:The nature and rules of soccer very much resemble socialism in many ways:[3][4] Soccer is socialist somehow, despite making billions of dollars a year and being plastered with advertisements.
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# ? May 21, 2011 22:04 |
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quote:Participants are known to behave dishonestly and illegally and act against the interests of their team in order to gain financially themselves.[5] VV Best part: "You'll improve if you have an open mind" Angry Avocado fucked around with this message at 22:33 on May 21, 2011 |
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Example of the great work produced by his homeschool students. He gets really mad if you suggest people are any more intelligent today than thousands of years ago quote:The "no hands" rule can be compared to socialist tax policies. This must be a parody. Don't US sports have wage caps? That seems more 'socialist' than the stupid free market of European football.
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Corrupt Politician posted:
Ograbme fucked around with this message at 00:39 on May 22, 2011 |
# ? May 21, 2011 23:58 |
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Trying to make fun of this, but it's breaking brain to think people actually think this is real. These two are great. The kid makes some solid points, and Shlafly misuses the term "illogical" to mean "thing I don't agree with". I assume that Schlafly himself believes that he does not belong to great swath of degenerate IQers and devolving language users...
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# ? May 22, 2011 00:34 |
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appropriatemetaphor posted:
The best part is the "for example," as if it's a self-explanatory part of his chastising.
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This actually makes me sad and further reinforces my belief that most instances of homeschooling should be considered as child abuse.
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# ? May 22, 2011 01:05 |
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I like how Schafly is just a terrible teacher, fundamentally. Not even just because he doesn't actually teach anything meaningful to the students, and skews everything in his own bizarre direction, but because it's obvious he *hated* the responses that kid gave but still gave his work the equivalent of a 92.
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# ? May 22, 2011 01:16 |
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So Shalfly endorses IQ tests? I thought I remember him complaining about how they're liberally biased or something. (Not that IQ tests aren't an ineffective measure of intelligence that no one uses anymore anyway.)
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# ? May 22, 2011 01:35 |
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Is there actually a complains board or something that investigates poor teaching? Surely theres a minimum standards in the US curriculum, or is this concept of a national curriculum one of these evil ideas only people in other countries have? Because seriously, this poo poo is just child abuse. The kid gave a loving insightful answer for his age.
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# ? May 22, 2011 02:23 |
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Is this whole idea about humans devolving and becoming more stupid over time a new thing? I've never heard that before.
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# ? May 22, 2011 02:38 |
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Node posted:Is this whole idea about humans devolving and becoming more stupid over time a new thing? I've never heard that before. I think it relates to how the Bible says that people used to live to be thousands of years old, but then lived shorter and shorter amounts of time due to sin. Or, it could be that Schafly looks around and sees more and more LIBERALS everywhere, who are dumb, therefore, people are becoming more dumb. Also I like that the kid named Plate the Julius Caesar as two of the smartest people. I mean Caesar was a savvy guy sure... but he's not really known for his intelligence.
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# ? May 22, 2011 02:47 |
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How the hell do you assess a question like "Write about anything in the lecture?"
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# ? May 22, 2011 02:58 |
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Node posted:Is this whole idea about humans devolving and becoming more stupid over time a new thing? I've never heard that before. It's actually a very old thread of myth that predates Christianity entirely. There's always the Godlike First Ones. They were either granted gifts from the gods, stolen them, or had them stolen for them. Then because of their own folly they are either punished or their generations naturally degrade. Normally this is part of the creation story. It explains how human beings became special while to the contemporary observer we have made and continue to make horribly bad decisions. It does a pretty good job of setting up the idea that we were more metaphysically pure in the beginning than we are now but the whole thing stops making sense in context of the purpose of the myth when you try to claim it's still going on. I don't even know why anyone would believe that, given the massive, MASSIVE worldwide jumps in literacy and other educational metrics over the last few hundred years. You really do have to be a special kind of dense to think that we as a species are currently becoming less intelligent. raezr posted:How the hell do you assess a question like "Write about anything in the lecture?" As a natural at bullshitting questions like this on tests, seeing this on one would make me excited. Free points, ho-dang! Nathilus fucked around with this message at 03:08 on May 22, 2011 |
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Ograbme posted:She also helped shut down a Holocaust memorial because it didn't give a fair shake to the Nazis or the Klan. I've never heard about this, but it sounds like a great story. This really makes me sad.
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# ? May 22, 2011 03:28 |
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RPZip posted:I've never heard about this, but it sounds like a great story. WaPo posted:Schlafly charged "Facing History and Ourselves" [the program] with "psychological manipulation, induced behavioral change and privacy-invading treatment" and urged the department to reject its proposals. . . . Concluding her remarks [one of the Education Department's reviewers] wrote: "The program gives no evidence of balance or objectivity. The Nazi point of view, however unpopular, is still a point of view and is not presented, nor is that of the Ku Klux Klan."
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quote:I don't even know why anyone would believe that, given the massive, MASSIVE worldwide jumps in literacy and other educational metrics over the last few hundred years. You really do have to be a special kind of dense to think that we as a species are currently becoming less intelligent. I've met a number of people who think this, mostly young people who are very naive and privileged. The reasoning is really classist/racist and basically amounts to all those poor, unintelligent people who have higher fertility rates and dilute the gene pool, while the people with those good, smart genes have stopped having so many kids. Corrupt Politician fucked around with this message at 06:31 on May 22, 2011 |
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That is retarded on so many levels.
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# ? May 22, 2011 07:43 |
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And yet it's hard to go a week without someone on the forums saying, "Idiocracy will come true", for pretty much the same reasons.
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# ? May 22, 2011 08:43 |
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As someone who wasn't obviously born yet (1984), what was the reason for Phyllis Schafly's opposition to the equal rights amendment? On paper, it sounds like a good thing.
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Senor Science posted:As someone who wasn't obviously born yet (1984), what was the reason for Phyllis Schafly's opposition to the equal rights amendment? On paper, it sounds like a good thing. Sheer and utter insanity, more or less: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Schafly#Opposition_to_an_Equal_Rights_Amendment She thought the amendment would end up taking away privileges and lead to women being drafted into the military and public unisex bathrooms. The horror!
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Rand alPaul posted:http://www.conservapedia.com/Soccer#Soccer_and_socialism My brain hurts. e: quote:Also I like that the kid named Plate the Julius Caesar as two of the smartest people. I mean Caesar was a savvy guy sure... but he's not really known for his intelligence. MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 14:29 on May 22, 2011 |
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