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I wonder if this Politische Abstimmung will have any impact on the next scenario vote, too. While it's probably a very good idea to stop lollygagging and finally grant the ComGuard some of our
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I'll have to vote A. While I can't help but feel this is what PTN wants to surprise us with an unexpected twist, C is the only really good alternative, but I don't feel like I should vote it.
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May 22, 2011 09:55
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Let's see how fast the clanners advance when LosTec becomes FoundTec. A
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May 22, 2011 10:11
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The real question here is: Who discovered the Castle Brian? Have they discovered the existance of it, or its exact lcoation? jng2058 posted:I want to say A, and I think that one's gonna win regardless, but I look at the House Davion patch that I bought at the Chicago Battletech Center (may it rest in peace) so long ago, and I'm going to vote with my heart.
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May 22, 2011 10:44
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A A is the most  choice I can think of, and think of the gausszilla, and maybe banzai can make IS extra-light fusions with only 2 crit slots per side torso.
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May 22, 2011 10:47
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Helm plus Banzai equals an easy choice. A
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May 22, 2011 10:54
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Unless we somehow get him killed in the mission, then it'll be hilarious.
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May 22, 2011 11:01
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It's a win-win situation, really.
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May 22, 2011 11:04
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I'd like to vote A but the part of me that loves the FWL is afraid that this looting would come at their expense. Though any attention for house Marik, whether it's them getting their asses kicked or winning the war single handedly, is better then obscurity. I vote A Oh and as a side note, I was playing some megamek recently with a friend and was running tech 1 against his Jade Falcons, told him to bring a star and I'd match BV in tanks and mechs. The hunchback I brought wound up being the MVP of that game as it withstood about 4 turns of direct fire from a Blood Asp and a Cougar, plus REDACTED constantly attempting to murder it while the Jagermech behind it went down with a whimper by losing a leg and the fall damaging its gyro, a centurion blew up in one volley from a Black Lanner and my Schrek PPC carrier skidded turn 1 into a building and was immobilized there. When the pilot of the hunchback finally ejected he had 4 wounds, the mech had no legs, one arm and probably about 5 points of armor left combined. He did get some pretty nice shots off with his AC20 though. Gotta love the hunchback.
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May 22, 2011 11:04
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Voting A for Lostech.
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May 22, 2011 11:14
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I see no way that E could fail to promote my personal goal of a massive clusterfuck with no regard for who comes out on top.
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May 22, 2011 11:39
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A for much of the same reasons everyone else has voted. Kells/Marik/ROM clusterfuck, anyone?
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May 22, 2011 11:46
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A lot of these options are meaningless to me so I'll vote D for glorious nuclear wasteland.
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May 22, 2011 11:55
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A is the only sensible choice (plus more face time for my favourite FWL) B is the Hey I want to be a Drac puppet choice C is the boring and predictable choice (and anything we can do to prevent the birth of victor is only a good thing) D would be fun but if I recall correctly in cannon most of the factory's were slagged till the dragoons came along E is the too dumb to live choice although it would be "interesting" as I if I recall correctly there is both a Steiner and Ward Bloodname in the clans
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May 22, 2011 13:01
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We have to go Deeper. Lostech is cool and all but Outreach kicks rear end.
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May 22, 2011 13:14
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Helm! A!
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May 22, 2011 14:54
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Also: Outreach was never nuked, the Jihad never happened.
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May 22, 2011 15:44
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I got to vote HELM. Someone give me some canon backstory. Red Corsair? Team Banzai? Salome Ward?
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May 22, 2011 16:02
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A, Helm! I thought you said earlier that the Helm Memory Core was lost in this alternative timeline. Does that no longer apply, or is this just a chance for Goons to affect the outcome? Or am I just utterly and completely wrong? Anyway, LosTech!
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Affi posted:I got to vote HELM. Red Corsair - There was a point when Katrina Steiner was on the run with her future husband Arthur Luvon and Morgan Kell where she took on the identity of the Red Corsair and hit the Periphery. She thought that her uncle, the then Archon Alessandro Steiner was trying to kill her. In actuality, the assassins were Loki guys sent to take out Luvon who was a member of Heimdall....they hadn't even known Katrina was going to be there. Anyway, Katrina took it badly, and spent years in the Periphery until her little band found some Lostech (what exactly was never revealed) and then came back to help overthrow Alessandro when the latter's "Concentrated Weakness" plan alienated pretty much everyone. In the modified continuity, this all appears to have happened as is, though at some point after taking the throne, Katrina was assassinated by Lestrade's guys, letting him and Frederick Steiner take over with Melissa as their helpless puppet. Except that Melissa managed to leave her bodyguard/duplicate Jeana Clay behind in her place while she hits the road as the new Red Corsair. Team Banzai - Actually, this got FASA into trouble. They basically stole Buckaroo Banzai and his people from the movie Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension. In Battletech, they're a regiment sized unit with a higher than normal percentage of scientists and techs among them, and Dr. Banzai himself is a technical genius. In the canon, he's responsible for helping set up the NAIS (New Avalon Institue of Science) and of leading the way on many of the new discoveries (and re-discoveries) between 3025 and the 3060s. In the modified continuity, he's traveling with Kell and the Red Corsair, where as normally he'd still be working at the NAIS. Salome Ward - Salome is a member of the Kell Hounds and Morgan Kell's lover, and eventually his wife. She's important because she's a direct descendent of a member of the SLDF who left with Kerensky and joined the Clans and founded the Ward Bloodname. This allows her son, Phelan Kell, to claim that Bloodname and get into the upper hierarchy of the Clans, eventually becoming Khan Phelan Ward. In the modified continuity, that hasn't happened yet. The interesting thing that could happen with E would be Salome taking Phelan's place in the whole "claim a Bloodname and political power in the Clans" concept. jng2058 fucked around with this message at 17:57 on May 22, 2011 |
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basically Dr. Banzai is the ultimate  for the inner sphere so imagine if he gets first crack at a memory core, He would find the hidden files and the SLDF porn cache, Extremely Hot Crab on Locust action.
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May 22, 2011 17:18
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jng2058 posted:Salome Ward - Salome is a member of the Kell Hounds and Morgan Kell's lover, and eventually his wife. She's important because she's a direct descendent of a member of the SLDF who left with Kerensky and joined the Clans and founded the Ward Bloodname. This allows her son, Phelan Kell, to claim that Bloodname and get into the upper hierarchy of the Clans, eventually becoming Khan Phelan Ward.
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Arquinsiel posted:The fun thing is, if she has the ward name then it's her father's, and the clans assess bloodnames matrilinearly. IE: Phelan ain't fukken eligable. You know, that's a good point. I never caught that before. Even more reason to hate Marty Sue Phelan, then. 
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Arquinsiel posted:Also: Outreach was never nuked, the Jihad never happened. There's a reason the Capellans haven't just looted the place; and it's not 'idiocy' or 'laziness'. jng2058 posted:Patrick Kell, Morgan's brother, appears to still be dead or missing or maybe with the rest of the Hounds, while Daniel Allard is hanging around with his father, Quintus Allard on New Avalon. They're both with the Kell Hounds. Quintus stopped in to see Dan on his way to somewhere. Arquinsiel posted:The fun thing is, if she has the ward name then it's her father's, and the clans assess bloodnames matrilinearly. IE: Phelan ain't fukken eligable. Clanners are stupid and lazy.
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PoptartsNinja posted:They're both with the Kell Hounds. Quintus stopped in to see Dan on his way to somewhere. Ah. Duly noted and adjusted above. PoptartsNinja posted:Clanners are stupid and lazy. You got that right. And even more so in this version. "Hey, let's invade all the rest of humanity without any idea of what they have, where they have it, or who's in charge. I'm sure nothing can possibly go wrong!"
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May 22, 2011 17:59
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jng2058 posted:Ah. Duly noted and adjusted above. "Whilst one-forth of our forces are compeletely opposed to the idea and are provoking another half of our forces into reckless idiocy!"
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hey :poptarts: is there any possibility of the not-named clan making an appearance?
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PoptartsNinja posted:"Whilst one-forth of our forces are compeletely opposed to the idea and are provoking another half of our forces into reckless idiocy!" Ah, the Clans. Their motto oughta be "If we didn't have better guns and designer mandated better piloting and gunnery scores, we'd have been wiped out by 3055!"
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PoptartsNinja posted:There's a reason the Capellans haven't just looted the place; and it's not 'idiocy' or 'laziness'. Is it radioactive Waspbears? They're like Owlbears, only with stingers and an insatiable lust for sugar.
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I will enjoy seeing what twist PTN has waiting on Helm. Something crazy like the Helm memory core becoming sentient and programming mechs to be its own army.
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Current Vote Standings: A- 36 B- 2 C- 5 D- 14 E- 6 I think voting can be closed anytime PTN. The goons have spoken.
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May 22, 2011 20:28
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I hope this memory core turns out to be full of nothing but lost recipes for ancient (but delicious) dessert pastries. It'd be like the hunkered down in the remains of a Little Debbie factory.
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May 22, 2011 20:51
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Zaodai posted:I hope this memory core turns out to be full of nothing but lost recipes for ancient (but delicious) dessert pastries. Yeah, but think how much money they could make to fund the war effort in a world where cheap, sugary pastries are LosTech.
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As PTN hasn't called it yet, I'm going to jump on the goonpile that is A. It's a long shot, but the glorious possibility of Dr. B. Banzai being the first mad scientist to tinker with the Helm Core is too good to miss out on.
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Fraction Jackson posted:Yeah, but think how much money they could make to fund the war effort in a world where cheap, sugary pastries are LosTech. That was sort of my point. It'd be awesome but in a way nobody is expecting. Plus, who doesn't live Swiss Cake Rolls? Probably the Clans. Now you see why we have to kill them.
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Arquinsiel posted:The fun thing is, if she has the ward name then it's her father's, and the clans assess bloodnames matrilinearly. IE: Phelan ain't fukken eligable. According to Phelan, Salome's parents were cousins. Yeah. When Stackpole found out how bloodnames work he decided Salome should just be inbred.
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I think these "Clan" fellows sound like right pleasant chaps, myself. I say we pop over for small chat over some tea and see if we can't jolly a cease-fire out of them, eh what? Therefore, E.
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Defiance Industries posted:According to Phelan, Salome's parents were cousins. This is really all you need to know about Stackpole.
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May 22, 2011 21:33
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Defiance Industries posted:According to Phelan, Salome's parents were cousins. Well it is space feudalism after all! What would the dark ages be without some choice inbreeding amongst  Stackpole doesn't care very much about consistency with his source material, does he? Did the X-Wing books pull this sort of nonsense?
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Octatonic posted:Well it is space feudalism after all! What would the dark ages be without some choice inbreeding amongst Oh God, Corran Frikkin' Horne. Son of a Jedi, ace spy, investigator, and Jedi himself, super pilot...it goes on and on. They had to bend the source material backwards so far it could kiss its own rear end to fit in the poo poo that Stackpole threw into THAT series.
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