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The Doo Do Chasers
Dec 27, 2008

:fella:Life is overwhelming:fella:
The sound I'm lookign for comes in around 8 or 9 seconds in. My guess is an organ and guitar through a vocoder but I totally can't tell. The rhythm is too human sounding to be modulation. But i could be wrong. Any ideas?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJACkDjU8S0&feature=related

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magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005




The Doo Do Chasers posted:

The sound I'm lookign for comes in around 8 or 9 seconds in. My guess is an organ and guitar through a vocoder but I totally can't tell. The rhythm is too human sounding to be modulation. But i could be wrong. Any ideas?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJACkDjU8S0&feature=related

Sounds like a Vowel filter on something sawtoothy and with a high cutoff?

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop

The Doo Do Chasers posted:

The sound I'm lookign for comes in around 8 or 9 seconds in. My guess is an organ and guitar through a vocoder but I totally can't tell. The rhythm is too human sounding to be modulation. But i could be wrong. Any ideas?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJACkDjU8S0&feature=related

It sounds like maybe an organ sounds through a high pass filter and high resonance with the cutoff varying all over the place or every time a note changes.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT
Anyone know what the hell is going on at 2:20 into this song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WadOvaGVsFM#t=2m20s

It sounds like some kind of tapping pattern run through a octave pedal or something?

Schlieren
Jan 7, 2005

LEZZZZZZZZZBIAN CRUSH
This is more a general production question but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJv2Mugm2RI&t=1m43s

It's mostly just the sound of anything from the late 30s - mid 40s or so the sound of which I've always admired, and I'd love to create an album using that sound template - warm, saturated, diffuse, just a touch muddy without being washed-out and indistinct, absolutely nothing "pristine", everything extremely soft, nothing brittle.

Do I have to become a collector of old microphones, pres, boards and reel-to-reels, or is there an easier way to capture the essence of that era's recorded sounds to on an album of modern songs?

Moreover, what about the vocal recordings of that era made them what they were?

I'll use Dumbo again (try not to cry while listening ok)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oSdgIDyl6Q&t=0m30s

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

Schlieren posted:

Do I have to become a collector of old microphones, pres, boards and reel-to-reels, or is there an easier way to capture the essence of that era's recorded sounds to on an album of modern songs?

Moreover, what about the vocal recordings of that era made them what they were?


Record straight to vinyl or wax, and for the vocals, set the mic several feet away and use full volume singing (a la opera singers).

Until Les Paul's revolutions in multitracking and other recording techniques, it was the standard practice to mic the performer from several feet away, as during that era it was common for a singer to sing with no mic or amplification when playing live, and they had to project loud to be heard over the instrumentation. This meant the old ribbon and condenser mics they used had to be placed some distance away from the singer.

Magnetic tape didn't come into use in recording studios until the 50's (it largely came out of German technology that wasn't publicly available until after the end of WWII).

yearns for u
Nov 3, 2010
This is kind of a weird one but I have been looking for this sound for awhile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qL9FLBQEqQ&t=17


This was the best example I could find, but it's the vocal-ish sounding "buh buh buh" sound. I have barely a clue as to what it could be, for all I know they actually recorded a guy saying "buh" but I know lots of keyboards have a similar sound to use, like old casios, I just have no idea what to look for considering google yields nothing useful.

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

While you could probably synthesize something similar, that's almost definitely a sampled "buh".

candy bar
Jan 14, 2008

yearns for u posted:

This is kind of a weird one but I have been looking for this sound for awhile.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qL9FLBQEqQ&t=17


This was the best example I could find, but it's the vocal-ish sounding "buh buh buh" sound. I have barely a clue as to what it could be, for all I know they actually recorded a guy saying "buh" but I know lots of keyboards have a similar sound to use, like old casios, I just have no idea what to look for considering google yields nothing useful.

That's literally a sample of the text-to-speech guy on your computer saying "buh."

Schlieren
Jan 7, 2005

LEZZZZZZZZZBIAN CRUSH

HotCanadianChick posted:

Record straight to vinyl or wax

Are there any realistic options?

hooptyjr
Dec 22, 2010

The future is in the past!

Schlieren posted:

Are there any realistic options?

Time travel!

In all seriousness, I've wondered the same thing myself. I feel like it would be near impossible to recreate the vibe that's present on early recordings such as these.

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop

hooptyjr posted:

Time travel!

In all seriousness, I've wondered the same thing myself. I feel like it would be near impossible to recreate the vibe that's present on early recordings such as these.

Not at all impossible... challenging, yes. Even listening to how Amy Winehouse's music was engineered and mixed, it has a very old sound while still maintaining a higher fidelity expected in todays pop music. Read about carbon mics. Also look into ribbon mics.

You can also try to get this sound in post digitally with EQ and maybe sending some of it out to an aux track and adding a distortion plug-in and adjusting it appropriately. And then sweeten it up with reverb and you could also send some of that out to distortion and EQ. It kind has to be done perfectly or else it will sound awful. Just keep experimenting with this and see what you get.

reversefungi
Nov 27, 2003

Master of the high hat!
How the hell do I get that Dirty Dutch House Lead sound? Specifically, these two songs:

At 1:30 in Afrojack and Sidney Samson's Quacky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv9jDjgUB7c

and

At 2:43 in Afrojack's Doing it Right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPlYHpxtcwI

I have no idea how to even approach getting some of these sounds. Is the second one a sample? What synths could they possibly be using?

Vector 7
Sep 29, 2010

The Dark Wind posted:

How the hell do I get that Dirty Dutch House Lead sound? Specifically, these two songs:

At 1:30 in Afrojack and Sidney Samson's Quacky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv9jDjgUB7c

and

At 2:43 in Afrojack's Doing it Right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPlYHpxtcwI

I have no idea how to even approach getting some of these sounds. Is the second one a sample? What synths could they possibly be using?
I think that a big key to that dutch sound is to really rock the pitch wheel. If you listen to Quacky at 2:53 the same melody comes in with a simple square patch and it sounds really dutch because the pitch is still going all over the place. I think Massive would be a good choice for trying to emulate these kinds of sounds due to the wavetable oscillators. Modulate the table position of an unusual oscillator with an envelope and you can get all kinds of unique timbres like that. Then it's all about using pitchbend, glide, and pitch envelopes to get that dutch sound.

hooptyjr
Dec 22, 2010

The future is in the past!

The Dark Wind posted:

How the hell do I get that Dirty Dutch House Lead sound? Specifically, these two songs:

At 1:30 in Afrojack and Sidney Samson's Quacky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv9jDjgUB7c

and

At 2:43 in Afrojack's Doing it Right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPlYHpxtcwI

I have no idea how to even approach getting some of these sounds. Is the second one a sample? What synths could they possibly be using?

Another technique that works pretty well is to lay on the portamento. I'd like to know how he gets that percussive sound though.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzytrsy-_wE

I've been trying to recreate the hits in the beginning of this song, with no luck. I assume they're samples, but I'd love to have a synth this funky

hooptyjr fucked around with this message at 04:26 on May 19, 2011

hooptyjr
Dec 22, 2010

The future is in the past!
I hear this 8-bit kind of sound in a lot of things, but I can't seem to recreate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Tn4QjMVUU&feature=related

it comes in at :30.

Leg0z
Apr 30, 2003

I'm crushing your head!
the sub that comes in at 0:11 and throughout the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvagJHCqiJg

for some reason it's very hard to create in every VST I have and all the kick samples I have in my library.

The closest thing I've come to it is a sample from the movie Inception... I think it may actually be sample from a Movie FX library.

Freeze_Dried_Chives
Jul 22, 2007

I will not go down the hole again good sir.
Anyone have an idea what the lead sound in this song is? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKAp3x5Wcvs&feature=player_detailpage#t=75s

I've also heard it in the Mythbusters background music a lot.

Computer Jones
Jun 22, 2005

Freeze_Dried_Chives posted:

Anyone have an idea what the lead sound in this song is? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKAp3x5Wcvs&feature=player_detailpage#t=75s

I've also heard it in the Mythbusters background music a lot.

I think that's oscillator sync.

Cobweb Heart
Mar 31, 2010

I need you to wear this. I need you to wear this all the time. It's office policy.

hooptyjr posted:

I hear this 8-bit kind of sound in a lot of things, but I can't seem to recreate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Tn4QjMVUU&feature=related

it comes in at :30.

Assuming I'm hearing the right part, that's just a simple waveform arpeggiated really, really quickly.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

Cobweb Heart posted:

Assuming I'm hearing the right part, that's just a simple waveform arpeggiated really, really quickly.

Yep, it's just a (square?) wave re-trigging over and over super fast.

hooptyjr
Dec 22, 2010

The future is in the past!

the Bunt posted:

Yep, it's just a (square?) wave re-trigging over and over super fast.

That's what I thought, I should probably run it through a bit crusher to get that "older" sounding tone. THOR and Maelstrom make it sound a bit too clean to me

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT

hooptyjr posted:

That's what I thought, I should probably run it through a bit crusher to get that "older" sounding tone. THOR and Maelstrom make it sound a bit too clean to me

If you are interested in exploring the lo-fi/8-bit sound in any more depth you might like looking into Little Sound DJ. It's a gameboy sequencer you can use with a gameboy emulator. What I do is write little 8-bit "riffs" or beats and then use the emulator to record it as a wav and then sample it into a sampler like NNXT for use with Reason or other high end programs.

hooptyjr
Dec 22, 2010

The future is in the past!

the Bunt posted:

If you are interested in exploring the lo-fi/8-bit sound in any more depth you might like looking into Little Sound DJ. It's a gameboy sequencer you can use with a gameboy emulator. What I do is write little 8-bit "riffs" or beats and then use the emulator to record it as a wav and then sample it into a sampler like NNXT for use with Reason or other high end programs.

Yeah, I was looking into wiring up my old GBC to use as a synth using some tutorials, but I'm not THAT interested in chiptunes haha

Computer Jones
Jun 22, 2005

hooptyjr posted:

Yeah, I was looking into wiring up my old GBC to use as a synth using some tutorials, but I'm not THAT interested in chiptunes haha

You're probably better off with something like Tweakbench Triforce then.

Long Wang
Aug 28, 2006

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAhHNCfA7NI

Listen to the saxophone at the start. There is a 'quivering' noise whilst he's playing one of the notes. Is it possible to play this kind of noise with a saxophone only or is this some kind of computer generated noise?

colonp
Apr 21, 2007
Hi!
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colonp fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Mar 8, 2014

Long Wang
Aug 28, 2006

colonp posted:

I don't know if you even can do that with a sax. Sounds like a sampled sax from a sample library to me since the sound is so extremely clean.

Sounds like the volume and maybe the pitch is modulated by LFO(s) or automated.

Or do you mean something else than the sax sound in the beginning of the track?

Yeah, the saxophone does sound very clean.

If you watch these "live" performances it sounds less clean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwa7OBXDvw0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNjdfOGiUMw

But it's still not clear if he's actually playing the sax to make that quivering noise or he's just putting the thing in his mouth in time to a backing track.

grayrobot
Jul 20, 2002

colour malfunction
I am pretty sure there's a way to do this but I want to mangle something to the point where it sounds like it's a cassette tape being eaten. Any suggestions?

I have tried putting a single tone through a bit crusher and automating the bits down until it gets really spotty & chunky and used that for the signal on a limiter, but it really didn't nail it. I will see if I can find an example of what I mean online.

SVU Fan
Mar 5, 2008

I'm gay for Christopher Meloni

Leg0z posted:

the sub that comes in at 0:11 and throughout the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvagJHCqiJg

for some reason it's very hard to create in every VST I have and all the kick samples I have in my library.

The closest thing I've come to it is a sample from the movie Inception... I think it may actually be sample from a Movie FX library.

Look into getting some old 808 kit samples. 808 kits are famous for having that really specific kick sound, and when you pitch shift it down a little or use a subsynth effect with it (look into MDA subsynth plugin) you'll get exactly what you hear int he song.


For my own question, I'm trying to get a really warm beautiful rhodes tone, preferably in Reason? I've tried the Rhodes overdrive and the Herbie combinator presets and they're alriiiiiight, but never have that real warm tone when playing full chords. Any advice? You can see what I mean 5:00 in (also check out that bass tone :swoon: ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmAhnNyMtGk

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


I'm trying to go for the guitar tone at 1:55 in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cEDcrpgBn8

Any ideas?

grayrobot
Jul 20, 2002

colour malfunction

Abel Wingnut posted:

I'm trying to go for the guitar tone at 1:55 in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cEDcrpgBn8

Any ideas?

Wah, compression, reverb and make sure it's mono.
Maybe a Q-Tron, not sure.

Haledjian
May 29, 2008

YOU CAN'T MOVE WITH ME IN THIS DIGITAL SPACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4fifxR8EAw

What instrument is that getting the solo around 2:00?

the tingler
Jul 15, 2009
An elaborate Pungi or Been
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pungi


The guitar tone on the intro song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvEKdIoSnd8&feature=player_embedded

reversefungi
Nov 27, 2003

Master of the high hat!

burritonegro posted:

The guitar tone on the intro song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvEKdIoSnd8&feature=player_embedded

This is just a complete shot in the dark since I don't really play guitar that much, but it sounds to me like there might an octaver and perhaps a slight amount of chorus? Maybe a guitar expert can weigh in on this.

The Doo Do Chasers
Dec 27, 2008

:fella:Life is overwhelming:fella:

SVU Fan posted:

Look into getting some old 808 kit samples. 808 kits are famous for having that really specific kick sound, and when you pitch shift it down a little or use a subsynth effect with it (look into MDA subsynth plugin) you'll get exactly what you hear int he song.


For my own question, I'm trying to get a really warm beautiful rhodes tone, preferably in Reason? I've tried the Rhodes overdrive and the Herbie combinator presets and they're alriiiiiight, but never have that real warm tone when playing full chords. Any advice? You can see what I mean 5:00 in (also check out that bass tone :swoon: ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmAhnNyMtGk

Get really lucky like me and literally find a Rhodes in your basement!

SVU Fan
Mar 5, 2008

I'm gay for Christopher Meloni

The Doo Do Chasers posted:

Get really lucky like me and literally find a Rhodes in your basement!

Ugh, that rules. I've been looking on craigslist for some cheap ones, but I'd honestly rather be able to make it myself at this point so that I can use it with my keyboard for recording purposes and not have to try to mic up some old rear end broken rhodes. Any ideas, guys?

That Dang Dad
Apr 23, 2003

Well I am
over-fucking-whelmed...
Young Orc
I'm an Ableton Live 8 user, if it matters.

The song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Vl1WkskJA&feature=related

The above song starts with an electric guitar solo that has this rapid fire strumming sound I'm trying to recreate in Ableton. I've found many electric guitar instruments built in that sound very good, but trying to get them to make that fast "chuggachuggachugging" kinda sound is difficult.

I understand that part of it may have to do with decay and getting the sound to stop when the midi note isn't being held. But I'm also wondering if a better way would be setting up some sort of really fast delay to simulate the rapid strumming of a single note. So far my kindergarten skill level with Ableton is not yielding results.

Is there a trick/tweak/effect you can think of, or do I just need to make my own chuggastrummy guitar sample somehow?

SVU Fan
Mar 5, 2008

I'm gay for Christopher Meloni

Anal Surgery posted:

I'm an Ableton Live 8 user, if it matters.

The song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5Vl1WkskJA&feature=related

The above song starts with an electric guitar solo that has this rapid fire strumming sound I'm trying to recreate in Ableton. I've found many electric guitar instruments built in that sound very good, but trying to get them to make that fast "chuggachuggachugging" kinda sound is difficult.

I understand that part of it may have to do with decay and getting the sound to stop when the midi note isn't being held. But I'm also wondering if a better way would be setting up some sort of really fast delay to simulate the rapid strumming of a single note. So far my kindergarten skill level with Ableton is not yielding results.

Is there a trick/tweak/effect you can think of, or do I just need to make my own chuggastrummy guitar sample somehow?

Watch the live video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z60P0J3ojpI

He's doing it with a keytar, and is playing it that way. Look at how the guitarist is playing the intro, and that's pretty much what the synth is doing. I guess if you wanted to get the same thing without actually playing it, you could try adding an arpeggiator effect of some sort to your synth, but you wont ever get close enough without actually playing the notes.

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That Dang Dad
Apr 23, 2003

Well I am
over-fucking-whelmed...
Young Orc
I'm talking about what the gent at 0:27 is doing on his guitar. That's the sound I'm trying to capture. It looks like it's pure guitar strumming. Unless I'm missing something? (very possible, by the way)

edit: Okay, I think I get what you're getting at now. Yeah, I was afraid I'd have to do it on a real guitar and not be able to cobble it together in Ableton. :(

edit: Although thanks for reminding me I haven't played enough with the arpeggiator. So much to learn on this thing!

That Dang Dad fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Jun 2, 2011

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