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Crowetron posted:Haha, how in the gently caress? Well, you see...
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Pope Mobile posted:I've been watching the Clone Wars series and am on season 3. Just finished the episodes where Dooku betrays Ventress and gets a new assassin from the Sisters. What the loving gently caress is with that loving ending? Goddamn Darth Maul is alive and in exile in the Outer Rim?! You know that nothing will ever come of this though. It's just a way to get rid of Savage. Just like how they officially get rid of Ventress. This is the last we'll ever hear of it.
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May 27, 2011 19:50
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 There is no Star Wars stuff being released for adults anymore. Everything is either aimed at children or being written by grown up children. Also - Episode 1 as a Role Playing campaign. If you have any knowledge at all of how tabletop gaming works try to get at least 10 pages in and see if it grabs you. I ended up getting some good laughs out of this.
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May 27, 2011 20:39
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Azzmo posted:There is no Star Wars stuff being released for adults anymore. Everything is either aimed at children or being written by grown up children. No offense but this is actually really dumb because Star Wars started as a movie for children. That's not to say some of the dumb stuff is forgivable or adults can't enjoy it(I'm an unabashed fan), but I cant really say Star Wars was ever "mature".
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May 28, 2011 03:29
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RagnarokAngel posted:No offense but this is actually really dumb because Star Wars started as a movie for children. That's not to say some of the dumb stuff is forgivable or adults can't enjoy it(I'm an unabashed fan), but I cant really say Star Wars was ever "mature". Just because something is accessible to children doesn't mean that children are the sole or even primary audience. The OT was the Muppet Show to the PT's Teletubbies.
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May 28, 2011 03:47
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Crowetron posted:Haha, how in the gently caress? Figures.
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May 28, 2011 03:52
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Derek Dominoe posted:Just because something is accessible to children doesn't mean that children are the sole or even primary audience. The OT was the Muppet Show to the PT's Teletubbies. ....And they are both for children. What's this even mean?
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May 28, 2011 03:58
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Fox of Stone posted:....And they are both for children. What's this even mean? 
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May 28, 2011 04:13
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RagnarokAngel posted:No offense but this is actually really dumb because Star Wars started as a movie for children. That's not to say some of the dumb stuff is forgivable or adults can't enjoy it(I'm an unabashed fan), but I cant really say Star Wars was ever "mature". Empire Strikes Back would be the obvious counter to that. I'd like to know where it was stated that the series started aimed at children? I know that Lucas was inspired by the Flash Gordon serials but I've never had the impression that any of the original three films were made for children. As far as I'm aware the science fiction genre is pretty inclusive in that rarely do the films skew such that a 10 year old and a 30 year old would disagree much on its quality. Most Star Wars media released since the Prequels came out is pretty obviously aimed at kids in a "Saturday Morning Cartoon" type of way. My perception of lower quality is a product of a decade of min/maxing effort/profit by LucasFilm.
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May 28, 2011 04:50
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You would have to be incredibly irresponsible to offer the directorial job of a children's movie to David Lynch.
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May 28, 2011 07:46
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Azzmo posted:I'd like to know where it was stated that the series started aimed at children? I'd like to know this, as well. I know "it's for children" is Lucas' go-to defense when people say bad things about the PT now, but was this also the case with ANH? Also, this trailer doesn't look all that kid-friendly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gvqpFbRKtQ
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May 28, 2011 11:51
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Arguably the Holiday Special was aimed at kids. Actually it'd be more accurately to say it wasn't aimed at anyone functionally older than 5.
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May 28, 2011 11:58
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How many films aimed at children has Irvin Kershner directed?
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May 28, 2011 12:20
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Robocop 2 was family fun for everyone!!!
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Grendels Dad posted:I'd like to know this, as well. I know "it's for children" is Lucas' go-to defense when people say bad things about the PT now, but was this also the case with ANH? If I recall, he did buy out all the toy/merchandising rights or something to that effect. (Manchildren are still children.)
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May 28, 2011 12:29
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Are you saying that my original mint Porkins figure isn't as viable as your investments? Jock.
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May 30, 2011 06:15
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I've been thinking about this, and there is absolutely no way in gently caress Darth Maul could possibly be alive. Even in that crazy Infinities story where he got robots legs, everyone seems to overlook the fact that being cut in half wasn't the only fatal thing to happen to him. Even if being loving bisected didn't kill him instantly, he fell down a crazy huge pit. Even if the lightsaber cauterized the wound or he used some Force BS to hold his guts in, he's hitting the ground at terminal velocity. I mean, if Palps somehow immediately got a hold of him, maybe he'd be able to slap on some robo-legs. But even if Spliffy P himself was waiting at the bottom of that unexplained pit, Maul gonna hit the ground, and he's gonna hit the ground loving hard. Like a water balloon filled with spaghetti sauce. Even a full robo-ification like Grievous wouldn't help, because you wouldn't be able to transfer his brain into anything without a loving mop. Remember how Greedo was shot and burned to a crisp? He'd be easier to revive than Maul. I don't care if you have loving Dr. House and the team that built the 6 Million Dollar Man, there ain't poo poo you can do when a guy is just two puddles of meat.
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May 30, 2011 07:12
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Crowetron posted:I've been thinking about this, and there is absolutely no way in gently caress Darth Maul could possibly be alive. Even in that crazy Infinities story where he got robots legs, everyone seems to overlook the fact that being cut in half wasn't the only fatal thing to happen to him. We know that Naboo has a hollow core (that you can take stupid submarines through). Maybe he just kept falling until he passed the center of the planet's gravity, and then started falling back up, eventually settling to rest in the core 
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May 30, 2011 07:16
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Yeah, "terminal velocity" doesn't mean poo poo when you're a Jedi/Sith. Earlier in the same scene Maul kicks Obi-Wan off of a walkway and he falls a good four or five stories only to get up and proceed to jump back up to the previous walkway. Also, Luke falling from beneath the AT-AT after jamming that bomb up in there should have at least resulted in some broken bones, but he was fine afterwards.
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May 30, 2011 07:18
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Crowetron posted:I've been thinking about this, There's your first mistake.
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May 30, 2011 07:21
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Sure, you can use the Force to land crazy jumps and drops, but even if Maul had the mental capacity to do anything other than pass out from shock, he doesn't have any feet to land on. And he cracked his head on the side of the pit on the way down! Unless the dude landed in a Force powered super handstand, and Palps had a team of expert medical professions just waiting at the bottom of that hole for the whole fight, Maul is dead in at least three different ways. Edit: Doc Hawkins posted:There's your first mistake. That's a good point, though.
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May 30, 2011 07:23
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Luke also fell down a bottomless pit in Bespin if you recall! By the time he reached the bottom he had slowed to a fairly safe falling speed. One can only surmise that Star Wars OHS mandates these fall-speed-slowing safety devices because there railings haven't been invented to guard all the bottomless pits in the galaxy. So I guess what I'm saying is that if you think about it *too hard* then you can easily make a case for Maul surviving the fall (if not the disembowelment.)
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May 30, 2011 07:28
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I really loving hate Star Wars sometimes.
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May 30, 2011 07:33
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You guys are letting an EU expansion-story of a character whose origin is one of the prequel movies upset you? I thought that goons were, like, the number one proponents of the consensus that Star Wars starts at Episode IV and ends with Episode VI, and that those other three "Star Wars" movies are just a practical joke made by an eccentric old madman at the expense of the casual moviegoer. Or maybe that's just me.
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Crowetron posted:Sure, you can use the Force to land crazy jumps and drops, but even if Maul had the mental capacity to do anything other than pass out from shock, he doesn't have any feet to land on. And he cracked his head on the side of the pit on the way down! I was always pissed that he didnt return, he definately would have been a better and more understandable bad guy than Count Dooku (Still the runner up for WORST VILLIAN NAME EVER) - I mean he killed Obi wan's master, right in front of his very eyes! A much more understandable motivation that whatever political bullshit Dooku had going - something about him rebelling agains the jedi council, who seem like a sack of dicks at any rate ...anyway Not A Bear fucked around with this message at 07:47 on May 30, 2011 |
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He used force jump to slow his crippled rear end (actually he doesn't have an rear end now lol) down. Then senator palpatine came to naboo to publicly congratulate the queen and the gun gahs while secretly collecting his crippled apprentice. We know palpatine has an on call secret cybernetics lab, probably been using it for years to piece back together his various assassins. Palpatine decides his horned tattooed dude is a little to obvious so he keeps him in some crappy apartment on coruscant until after he eliminates most of the jedi. Then he sets him loose as a medium level spy and troubleshooter, and doesn't pay attention to what darth maul is doing for a few years. Darth maul finds a lead on obi wan and decides for some payback and maybe a chance to get back in palpatines good graces, gets killed before phoning it in and all is well in the star wars universe. see how easy that was?
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It would have made perfect sense and even been a somewhat nifty reveal to have Grievous be Maul, thus upping the stakes for the eventual confrontation with Obi-Wan (and explaining why Obi-Wan decides to gently caress off all alone to face Grievous). Going into Revenge of the Sith it's what I fully suspected. I gave Lucas too much credit.
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Crowetron posted:Sure, you can use the Force to land crazy jumps and drops, but even if Maul had the mental capacity to do anything other than pass out from shock, he doesn't have any feet to land on. And he cracked his head on the side of the pit on the way down! Darth Maul is some weird alien with horns growing out of his head! who knows how his body reacts to being cut in half!
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That Awful Nick posted:You guys are letting an EU expansion-story of a character whose origin is one of the prequel movies upset you? I'm pretty much right there with you. It's hard to get upset about what a particular story "does" to a particular character when you can just ignore it, or even come up with a scenario you personally find more entertaining and sensible. Your own understanding of the characters takes precedence over an externally-edited "canon" of events from wildly disparate works. It's theoretically possible for your understanding to be dumber than that canon, but it's not inherently dumber, just because you aren't the rights-holder.
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May 30, 2011 07:56
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tworavens posted:Darth Maul is some weird alien with horns growing out of his head! who knows how his body reacts to being cut in half! Yeah, this. Maul a Zoxxnorck, and they carry their vital organs in a little pouch under their left armpit. They also have little wings, like that blue Middle Easters slave keeper. There.
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Well, the next nail in the coffin of the EU is out. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Conviction THE NEXT ENTRY IN THE EXCITING FATE OF THE JEDI SAGA! Anyway, from the Wookieepedia entry, they take out Daala, the Horn children aren't crazy any more except they are, and Callista dies. Yup.
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May 30, 2011 17:21
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Grendels Dad posted:I'd like to know this, as well. I know "it's for children" is Lucas' go-to defense when people say bad things about the PT now, but was this also the case with ANH? Can't ever complain about a trailer that uses Vivaldi's Winter as the music. Much better than 99% of the crap that's in typical trailers.
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Rochallor posted:Well, the next nail in the coffin of the EU is out. I haven't read any of the FotJ books, but I'm so conflicted by what sound like completely retarded plots and the belief that Allston can do no wrong.
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May 30, 2011 18:17
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Everything is wrong with that darth maul comic. Why the gently caress did they have him speak?
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May 30, 2011 18:28
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Is that comic real? or is it a what-if sorta deal or what?
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That DICK! posted:Is that comic real? or is it a what-if sorta deal or what? They've said it's 'non-canon' but what that means in the EU anymore is anyone's guess.
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May 30, 2011 19:00
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Rochallor posted:Well, the next nail in the coffin of the EU is out. The plot for that book is beyond awful. Nothing in that bunch of poo poo sounds remotely interesting, and this whole Abeloth crap needs to be evicted.
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VaultAggie posted:The plot for that book is beyond awful. Nothing in that bunch of poo poo sounds remotely interesting, and this whole Abeloth crap needs to be evicted. Star Wars EU plotlines have effectively become JRPG storylines. Abeloth might as well be ExDeath from Final Fantasy 5. To be fair, ExDeath did have some pretty kickin' rad music, though.
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