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OneTwentySix
Nov 5, 2007

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Yes, the reducer is in place. I'm going to look into beetle traps, though. It's really a shame that these guys got into the US in the first place.

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OneTwentySix
Nov 5, 2007

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Checked on the hive today, in case I needed to let the queen out. She was already out, and at first I couldn't find eggs until I realized I was being retarded; I was looking for capped brood, not eggs. After realizing that, I immediately started finding eggs, so I was excited that she was accepted. They've also been storing pollen and I can't wait to open it up again in a week to see what they're up to. After removing the queen cage and the burr comb it caused, I sealed it up, filled the feeder, and headed out. I didn't find any more beetles, so hopefully the bees are taking care of things.

Here's a few pictures I'd taken on the day I'd set up the hive:


It's pretty neat to go from "Ahhh! Bees!" to realizing that you really don't need to worry about getting stung in most situations.


Here's the queen cage. They were pretty relaxed and not biting the screen at all, since they'd probably been with her for a few days already previously, but I wanted to be safe so I followed standard procedure, and it worked out fine.


Here's one of my useless drones, back when I was setting things up. I can't imagine any of them will find any queens to mate with, but I typically see them entering and exiting the nest frequently.


All in all, beekeeping really is a neat hobby; I wish I'd gotten involved sooner.

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)
I wish I brought my camera to inspection today. Saw two cool guard bee acts. For the first there was a horsefly chilling out a couple of inches away from the reduced entrance on the bottom board. A bee flew out of the entrence and rammed right into the fly butt first, getting rid of the fly while the bee squirmed on its back trying to right itself.

The second was a bee escorting a hive beetle out of the front entrance of the hive. It was just pushing it along and herding it until it got the thing out the door. Pretty neat to see them taking care of things like that. I did see a good number of those beetles. I killed 3 in the hive with the lowest bee pop, and saw a few others in the other two hives as well.

Something is definitely up with the hive that killed its first queen. I couldn't find the new queen or any eggs. There is larva, but only about 50 and they are all very large and begining to have their cells capped. It appears they are capping them as drone cells too which isn't good news. The 6 or so capped cells I did see were all done as drone domed drone cells, so yeah, need to do something there.

The good news is that swapping hive locations definitely worked. The problem hive's population is way up, though the hive now in the middle has a low population. It has lots of new bees, though, so I just need to see if I can stop them from drifting so much.

edit: I forgot to ask. The two stronger hives wax production dropped off a lot more than I thought it would. I was expecting to put two new deeps on today, but instead they still have 4 frames each to draw out. Is this normal? If I had to guess it's due to the aging bees from the package. If I remember correctly, bees are most capable of wax production from something like 10-20 days old, in which case that would make sense since all of the original bees are now at absolute minimum 27 days old. Good thing I saw lots of newly born bees in those two hives!

nesbit37 fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Apr 29, 2011

ShotgunWillie
Aug 30, 2005

a sexy automaton -
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nesbit37 posted:

Something is definitely up with the hive that killed its first queen. I couldn't find the new queen or any eggs. There is larva, but only about 50 and they are all very large and begining to have their cells capped. It appears they are capping them as drone cells too which isn't good news. The 6 or so capped cells I did see were all done as drone domed drone cells, so yeah, need to do something there.

The good news is that swapping hive locations definitely worked. The problem hive's population is way up, though the hive now in the middle has a low population. It has lots of new bees, though, so I just need to see if I can stop them from drifting so much.

edit: I forgot to ask. The two stronger hives wax production dropped off a lot more than I thought it would. I was expecting to put two new deeps on today, but instead they still have 4 frames each to draw out. Is this normal? If I had to guess it's due to the aging bees from the package. If I remember correctly, bees are most capable of wax production from something like 10-20 days old, in which case that would make sense since all of the original bees are now at absolute minimum 27 days old. Good thing I saw lots of newly born bees in those two hives!

Quick fix. Give the queenless hive a frame of capped brood and a frame of very young larvae and new eggs from one of your stronger hives. No bees. The queenless hive will raise a new queen, or at least attempt to. If it fails, the new brood and eggs will keep the hive going until you can get a commercial queen.

Better get on the ball though; leave them too long without a queen and you're gonna get some laying workers. Then you would be hosed.

If you continue to keep your hives in a row, the middle one is ALWAYS going to be weak because of the drifting. I'll tell you again. Change the orientation of the hives so that they aren't in a straight line.

Regarding the wax building, make sure that you don't stop feeding them. The bees tend to build comb until their first dearth, and then they start concentrating on filling it. Feed the sugar syrup until they have at least enough comb to get them through the winter (2-3 deeps depending on climate), and maybe a couple supers as well.

AFK SWARM OF BEES
Jun 24, 2008

You are swearing now that someday you'll destroy me. Remember: far better women than you have sworn the same. Go and look for them now.
Arrived home tonight with a nuc full of bees! I was really surprised -- they look so tiny! The bees at the zoo inspection just seemed a lot bigger than these girls. I was told that mine are Carnolians, but I always thought Carnolians were bigger than this.

I'll try to get some pics when I install in the morning.

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate
Man, this reminds me that I really have to check my bees. Haven't in a few weeks :S. It's just that the colony is so large, and inspecting the hive has become really difficult with how they've cemented everything together. The burr comb has hardened into rock. And they're pretty aggressive. This is my third season with the same bees. Different queen.

Every time I've let the bees make their own queen it always fails. The queen dies/vanishes and I had to buy a queen. Just a warning. I think it's easier to just buy a queen.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Maxi, let me know if you want us to come over and help at some point. I can't promise we'll be available, but we're both interested in checking out another hive, and maybe with three people it'd be easier to get in and clear out the burr comb or whatever.

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)

ShotgunWillie posted:

Quick fix. Give the queenless hive a frame of capped brood and a frame of very young larvae and new eggs from one of your stronger hives. No bees. The queenless hive will raise a new queen, or at least attempt to. If it fails, the new brood and eggs will keep the hive going until you can get a commercial queen.

Better get on the ball though; leave them too long without a queen and you're gonna get some laying workers. Then you would be hosed.

If you continue to keep your hives in a row, the middle one is ALWAYS going to be weak because of the drifting. I'll tell you again. Change the orientation of the hives so that they aren't in a straight line.

Regarding the wax building, make sure that you don't stop feeding them. The bees tend to build comb until their first dearth, and then they start concentrating on filling it. Feed the sugar syrup until they have at least enough comb to get them through the winter (2-3 deeps depending on climate), and maybe a couple supers as well.

I am going to try most of this today or tomorrow. My main concern is just with the frame of capped brood and the frame of larva since the other two hives are still building up (6 filled out frames each with 2 of those frames in each containing brood). I don't want want to weaken both of them to try and save this hive and then have all three of them fail. Maybe I am just not trusting the bees enough.

I am a little worried about flight path, but am going to see if I can rotate the outermost hive 90 degrees and possibly a little lower. Its just tricky since I can't have the bee's flying through where the gardeners work which is pretty much everywhere but the direction the hives are facing now.

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)
Hopefully this will take care of it. Went back out, got another cinder block and rotated the one edge hive so its about a foot away from the other one and at a different angle for the entrance. The bee's flight path is a little crossed but not much I can do about that.

I checked back in the problem hive and gave it a much closer look. No eggs, but I did see some small larva that I missed. I didn't see the queen either, but did see 2 supersedure cells that I either missed yesterday or they built over night. My guess is that the queen was either a virgin or just isn't very good, and she is either dead already or needs to be replaced. I took 1 frame out of the strongest hive that had capped brood on one side and eggs/small larva on the other. Brushed most of the bees off and stuck it in the weak hive.

I have bee class tomorrow so will see if the consensus is I should try and put a third caged queen in this hive or let them just raise their own. As long as it can build itself up enough to have a good shot at surviving the winter I will be happy.

edit: This is the new hive arrangement in case I have unwittingly created potential new problems.

nesbit37 fucked around with this message at 01:03 on May 1, 2011

AFK SWARM OF BEES
Jun 24, 2008

You are swearing now that someday you'll destroy me. Remember: far better women than you have sworn the same. Go and look for them now.
Haha what a morning. My fiancé and I had to leave for San Francisco for a week today, but we had to install the nuc this morning before we left. I felt like an rear end for having to wake them up before it was fully warm and sunny outside, because they were pissed and would not tolerate our intrusion. A good spraying in sugar syrup eventually convinced them to chill, but not before they'd already popped my fiancé on the hand and me on the forearm. All frames were put into the new hive, though, and the feeder was set up before we left. The queen had a beautiful brood pattern set on two of the frames, so we're predicting a healthy hive.

Considering that we only got stung twice and most of the bees were more interested in crawling around on us despite our noisy intrusion, I think we may have a pretty docile set of girls, too. I'm STILL shocked at how small they seem in comparison to the bees we saw at the zoo.

Elston Gunn
Apr 15, 2005

We installed our package today. It went pretty well despite me being unable to get the feeding can out of the opening of the package and slicing my hand trying to pry it out. Hopefully they won't all disappear like last year.





nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)
Glad to see some other pictures of new hives from this year! For the curious, here are some pictures of what is going on in my one messed up hive:





I had bee class this morning and let the instructors know what was going on. They seemed to think that either the last queen I put in was a virgin or it was laying workers. They gave me a new queen to put in with the caveat that if the bees were still biting and stinging the cage after 4 days I should call them and get a capped swarm cell, since newly hatched queens are always accepted by the hive.

Despite the problems with this hive I have two that are going strong, so thats nice to see. Also better than one couple in my class. They installed their two packages yesterday and then, in the night...

:byobear:

Luckily they didn't kill the queens or eat too much stuff, but they did mess up some frames and tear one super in two.

Anyway, I took the above pics when I went back in to put in the new caged queen. I
found 3 supersedure cells with large larva in them, and they were starting to
build another 3 that I am guessing they were planning on moving larva from the
frame I put in there yesterday into (I couldn't see anything in those newer
cells). I cut out the supersedure cells before stapling the queen cage in
place. Third day I have been in this hive and still no visual on the queen and no eggs in any of the cells. Hopefully this one takes!

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

How badly will not getting the morning sun effect my hives? At the moment they don't get sun in their location until almost 11 and I'm worried they'll end up lagging all summer because of their location.

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate
They'll just "get up" later, that's all. If moving the hive isn't too much trouble I'd do it. I think they'll be fine.

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints

Wow, bee keeping in the US is so different to Aus.... I dont think ive EVER seen anyone in my local area feed their bees artificially!

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Checked the hive Sunday since I had been sick all week and unable to get to it. The bees hadnt really been using the feeder but the ants were so I took it out. If theres a dearth Ill put it back.

Cleared some burr comb and took a peek in for brood but didnt really pull much apart since I was still coming back from a cold. This week Ill clear the bridge comb from the nuc frames and look them over. I wish I had gotten them at the beginning of April instead of the end but there is still a good flow and they are building a lot of comb.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Finally got to do a decent inspection and clean everything up a bit. Today was windy and cool but they were super mellow and it was really easy. I have three full frames from the nuc covered in brood with patches of drones here and there. They are working to the sides as well and have built up another three frames that have brood in the centers and nectar on the edges. The frames outside of that have the inside side filled out. I didnt bother looking for the queen. Theres enough brood that Im not worried about it.

Beekind recommends their setup of 8 frames with two frames on the outside that are just pieces of plywood to help establish better airflow so that is what Im using. I currently have both deeps on since when I checked it last weekend they had just started building comb in the centers of the three newly built up frames. I dont know if anyone has any experience with this or not. If I dont like it I can always change it.

I managed to clean up the problem frames, I brought a knife along to try and cut the comb but just found it easiest with the hive tool. Should I just leave the wax/honey that I scraped off near the hive for them to re-use?

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Yeah, when I scrape wax I just let the chunks drop in front of the hive. They can easily smell it and will collect whatever they want.

We used the Beekind arrangement last year and it worked great. We're doing it again now. Just inspected this evening; lots of brood, capped and uncapped, and we found the queen as well.

We also found what appeared to be four or five open succession cells, which we removed. Gave us a scare for a bit until we located the queen. There's plenty of brood, though, so I don't think there's an issue. Since we're re-using frames from the previous hive, perhaps that somehow prompted them to build queen cells? Who knows. The hive seems healthy and happy, so we're not going to worry about it.

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate
Sometimes they build supercede cells and take them down when they change their minds. It's really weird.

AFK SWARM OF BEES
Jun 24, 2008

You are swearing now that someday you'll destroy me. Remember: far better women than you have sworn the same. Go and look for them now.
So we plan to inspect the hive today after one week of letting it sit and build. Problem is, I was a dumbfuck and went down to set up the hive last week in shorts and flip-flops ... and waded through an rear end-ton of poison ivy. I'm apparently a LOT more reactive to urushiol now than I was as a kid. My legs have looked like raw bloody meat for the past few days and it's finally stopped weeping/oozing today. :cry:

Question stands: are the smells from the chemicals on my legs (lots of calamine lotion, alcohol, cortisone) going to piss off the bees? I know they're really sensitive to smells and our beekeeper association always thumped a lesson of "NEVER VISIT YOUR HIVE IF YOU SMELL FUNNY IN ANY WAY." My guess is that it probably won't have much of an effect, but I'm just checking to make sure.

(edited for clarification)

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate
Bah, I visited the hive today. What a disaster. They've been building things really strangely, sideways, despite all the frames crammed there. Bees were REALLY pissed. I don't like doing this anymore. There's too many bees. Too aggressive. Lots of brood in the supers--I don't put a queen excluder because it always blocks the bees from moving up. I tried putting back the frame we collecting, they were too pissed to let me. Weee third year. :( I think I'll ask for your help next time Leperflesh.

drewhead
Jun 22, 2002

Pretty excited after our inspection today. It's me and my fellow bee keeper's (next door neighbor) second year with two hives. We lost one of two over the winter, oddly the we lost the [slightly] stronger of the two. They didn't starve. We took about 15# of honey out of the deep in March and then attempted to do a split five weeks ago. We really wanted to be in the hive before now, but vacations, weather, and schedules have conspired against us.

Today we were able to go in and take a look. I found a good shaped although smallish brood pattern in the back right of the bottom deep. Eggs, larva, and capped brood as well as nice amount of bees. And we found our new Queen. Happy Mother's day!

The hive we split from is going gangbusters. I've got two medium's on top of a deep and the first medium is almost full of honey. My beekeeping partner remarked at the obviousness of my negotiation of it's weight when removing. The second medium is ~70% drawn out but only has a bit of capped honey in it. I expect to be placing supers in a few weeks there!

AFK SWARM OF BEES posted:

I'm apparently a LOT more reactive to urushiol now than I was as a kid. My legs have looked like raw bloody meat for the past few days and it's finally stopped weeping/oozing today. :cry:

Everyone is. It's an intolerance that builds with each exposure. When I was a kid I could roll in the stuff and not have a reaction. Not so much anymore.

AFK SWARM OF BEES
Jun 24, 2008

You are swearing now that someday you'll destroy me. Remember: far better women than you have sworn the same. Go and look for them now.

drewhead posted:

Everyone is. It's an intolerance that builds with each exposure. When I was a kid I could roll in the stuff and not have a reaction. Not so much anymore.

We had to cut the hive inspection short because I was just too uncomfortable. Didn't feel like I had the patience to be out there and work slowly (and we kept getting bees in the back of our veils, driving us nuts) so I figured I wouldn't botch it and I'd just come back another day when I'm not so miserable from this skin rash.

We did see a LOT of activity -- good comb drawing and brood pattern on the frames, obviously the queen has got her poo poo together. They were not particularly aggressive so thankfully I wasn't too scared of dealing with stings AND poison ivy. I don't think it'll be too long before we put a second hive body on.

There's a nectar flow happening right now in Atlanta, and I kept seeing tons and tons of little bees coming in for landings on the bottom board with their legs loaded with gray and yellow pollen. :) Also, lots of fanning going on.

OneTwentySix
Nov 5, 2007

fun
FUN
FUN


I checked on the bees again today. They're doing really well; roughly three frames are full of brood, and there are a lot of capped brood. My dad was around, so he took a few photos. Looks like I'll be putting on the second deep next week, if all goes well.


The weakest frame; the other two or three were in much higher densities; this was just two frames in from the wall frame.




Lots of brood! You can see some eggs in the bottom of the photo, too.



And then I was lucky enough to find the queen. I was a bit surprised at how obvious she was; I hadn't found her previously, and never really saw her even in the queen cage (they were really clustering around it), but there she was. Reminded me of the queen in a carpenter ant nest; different movements from the workers, and just so much bigger.

They're really doing well, with lots of sugar water stored, tons of capped cells, pollen and nectar, but the numbers do seem to be really starting to fall. Next week they should finally be getting reinforcements, though, and I'm really looking forward to that.

I did find one cell that had three eggs, but it was just a single cell; this is fine, right? What happens in these cells, do the bees remove one, or are they able to kill the other larvae?

Other than that, things were good. No hive beetles, and I haven't seen any coming in toward the hive at all since those first few days, so hopefully I've attracted the majority of the ones in the area, at least for now. I don't believe there are any other hives nearby, since I hadn't seen a single bee anywhere in the city, though I did see a swarm last year on campus (wish I would have been into beekeeping because I would have definitely captured it). I'm guessing the beetles might have destroyed that swarm wherever it ended up, and I've been picking up any stragglers that stayed within a few miles.

Looking forward to the next inspection. They're really docile, which is really neat. Definitely didn't need the veil, and maybe not even the smoker (though I'll continue using it just to be safe).

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Maximusi posted:

Bah, I visited the hive today. What a disaster. They've been building things really strangely, sideways, despite all the frames crammed there. Bees were REALLY pissed. I don't like doing this anymore. There's too many bees. Too aggressive. Lots of brood in the supers--I don't put a queen excluder because it always blocks the bees from moving up. I tried putting back the frame we collecting, they were too pissed to let me. Weee third year. :( I think I'll ask for your help next time Leperflesh.

Sorry you're having such a hard time. I asked my wife and she is happy to come along and help too. Do you just need to clean up a lot of burr comb?

Also... is this still your original queen? Or have you re-queened?

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

So I went through the hive that survived the winter today and the bottom box of the hive was empty, had a frame of honey left on it, and was incredibly moldy.

My question is, is it ok to give these frames back to the bees to clean?

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)
Did an inspection today, good news and bad from it. The contrast between these hives amazes me everytime. The hive that has been having queen problems appears to be ok. They have accepted the third queen and she is laying.

Another hive is doing great. Added a second deep to it today. I had to do a lot of cleanup though. They finally did start building from the top of the frames to the middle of the inner cover because its flipped. That wasn't too bad, though. What was worse was the mess they were doing on two of the outer frames where they were building comb sideways and in several shelves; all of which had to be cut away. I think I dammaged the comb pretty badly doing so. I kind of wish I went with plastic foundation for the brood boxes between this and the warping on a very small number of frames that are not currently in any of the hives. Oh well.

The bad news is that one of the third hive, which had been doing well, is now definitely queenless. The bees just seemed different when I opened it up, and there are emergency supersedure cells all over two of the frames. Since some of them are capped already I am going to just let them try and raise their own queen. I probably should have given them a frame of brood from the strong hive, but I already took one out 2 weeks ago from that hive for the other weak hive and I really don't want to have to stunt that one's growth any more if I can help it. Will see how they are next time I go out I guess.

emanonii
Jun 22, 2005

CHARLES posted:

So I went through the hive that survived the winter today and the bottom box of the hive was empty, had a frame of honey left on it, and was incredibly moldy.

My question is, is it ok to give these frames back to the bees to clean?

Yes, they will clean it no problem. I had a hive that died over the winter, and the inside was incredibly moldy. A couple of weeks ago, I split my surviving hive and put the split into the moldy hive. A week later, it was practically clean inside. I wasn't sure about the mold issue, so I asked my beekeeping club, and they said that this was perfectly OK to do.

grumpy
Aug 30, 2004

On of our second year hives is configured with a deep on bottom, excluder, then 2 mediums. The middle medium is almost all capped honey and the top medium is now showing some activity.

Should we harvest the middle medium now, or rotate it to the top, or leave it all alone and harvest the middle medium late in the season?

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

The answer to that is somewhere between "it depends" and "it's up to you".

Some things to consider:

-if you're going to rent or borrow equipment for extracting honey, it's better to get all your honey supers full first and then harvest all at once
-if you have a long summer dearth in your area, you won't want to take all the honey the bees have right when that dearth begins
-the amount of honey your bees will need for the winter, and when your winter begins, should be a part of your calculations; you'll want to have your last (or only) harvest take place at a point where you can be sure they have sufficient reserves

Aside from that, it's kind of up to you. One thing I think is a good idea though is to never let the hive totally run out of room - that tends to trigger swarming behavior. I like to make sure there's always a few empty frames somewhere for the bees to be working on. By 'empty' I mean, it's OK to have drawn out comb and maybe a few cells with stuff in them, but most cells are empty (neither capped, nor full of uncapped honey that they've set out to dry). Conversely, you should not leave them with no drawn-out cells... they need someplace to put incoming nectar and pollen, and if they have no drawn comb, they may start shrinking the brood chamber to compensate, which will restrict the hive population in the next generation.

You should also be monitoring your deep. My hive has two deeps as the hive body; I've heard of using one deep and one medium, or three mediums, but if you only have one deep I suspect your bees will run out of room to expand the brood chamber at some point. (Then again, I've been taught beekeeping methods for California - maybe you're in an area where hives are always smaller?) If you installed new bees this year, they might not have gotten there yet of course, but if you're already filling honey supers that suggests to me that you feel your main hive body is 'complete'. Keep an eye on that deep and maybe be ready to add another box if it gets too crowded.

Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 00:23 on May 20, 2011

grumpy
Aug 30, 2004

Leperflesh posted:

The answer to that is somewhere between "it depends" and "it's up to you".



Thanks for the advice! I was of the mind that I shouldn't tinker with the deep where the brood resides, but as you mention, checking in on it more often is a necessity and I will be sure to take a look in the coming days.

My buddy and I are complete novices, starting with 2 hives last year and added one new one this year. They handled the winter well and have been very active for several weeks as we had a very mild late winter.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Yeah, regularly inspecting the brood chamber is the best way to monitor the health of your hive. With an established hive, once a month or so should be OK. You want to look for active brood-rearing and/or see the queen, and check for evidence of mites, disease, etc. Of course it's not totally 100% required, and you can just let the bees do their thing if you want, but the risk of losing a hive is higher if you don't give yourself the chance to react to a problem early (with treatment, or re-queening, or expanding the hive, etc.).

AFK SWARM OF BEES
Jun 24, 2008

You are swearing now that someday you'll destroy me. Remember: far better women than you have sworn the same. Go and look for them now.
Second inspection happened today, as it was 83 degrees out and lovely. I was absolutely floored by the bees' progress. They were definitely ready for a second deep, and only after three weeks!


Here's one of the brood frames. All the shiny cells? Bee larvae! Saw lots of baby bees on the comb, couple of drone cells at the bottom of the frames. No supercedures or swarm cells (there MAY have been one, but I think I broke it open when I pulled the frame up) of notice. Good job, queenie!


The farthest outside frame. Both sides were completely jam packed with comb and honey. Go girls GO!


Deep 2 is a go!

No sign of mites, beetles, wax moths, ants, or other invaders. The girls were quite calm -- no dive bombs or stings. Hell, the only thing that tried to get me was a mosquito. :) It was a really good inspection and I'm learning to move slower and easier with the bees.

Has anyone ever noticed that drones make particularly annoying whines? I saw one crawling around on the outside of the hive, poked him, and heard him make this awful whizzy noise. Sounded like a yellowjacket.

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate
So, my idiot brother and father decided to move my 4 box high hive today without any kind of protection, no support for the bee boxes, nothing. I told them to wait. I told them to be prepared. So guess what happened? The bottom box slid off the other three, brother gets stung, he panics and drops everything. The whole goddamn thing toppled over, cue stinging and massive bee death. They finally got smart and wore full length suits, still got stung, moved all the boxes causing hundreds of deaths.

I'll be lucky if the bees ever let me anywhere NEAR the hive now, they're so pissed. Hopefully the queen survived. I'll probably wait a month to open the hive again, maybe not ever, I don't know.

TouchyMcFeely
Aug 21, 2006

High five! Hell yeah!

Christ, what did they think was going to happen? I've seen some pretty irresponsible people on Youtube but moving hives with zero protection really takes the cake.

Hope your hives are able to bounce back.

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate
Yeah they didn't really think.

There's still a lot of them hovering at the old location...

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

What, they moved the hive during the day??

Jesus. I mean, that's not just "not thinking", that's "trying to ruin your beehive".

Hives should always be moved at night, when all the bees are indoors. If a daytime move is unavoidable, you wait till night, seal the hive entrances, and then move it the next day.

Unfortunately if they dropped the hive I don't think you can wait a month to open it. You probably want to open it and see if there's damage, frames out of place, etc.

Why did they feel like your hive needed to be moved right now, anyway?

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate
Well it was at dusk when they attempted to move it. My dad wants to work on the fence and he can't bring in workers if the beehive is right next to it. Right now there's hundreds of them flying around in the old space. They're really confused.

Elston Gunn
Apr 15, 2005

So, my bees are definitely busy building new comb and I can spot a bunch of larvae but I can't find any eggs. There are some cells in new comb that have a clear filling that look like cells that I've seen eggs in before, but no eggs that I can spot. I stopped feeding them about a week ago since there are many things blooming here.

Should I start thinking about getting a new queen soon?

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lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Looks like my bees have built up 3/4 of the frames in the two deeps so far with capped brood and honey. They still have 4 frames, two on top and two on the bottom on one side to go but they looked like they were busy getting started. Not too bad since its only been a month. Unfortunately this is my last week before I have to leave for work for some months. I only peeked in the top today since I opened it a week ago and I wanted a last look at them. My dad will be watching it while I am gone and should have the supers on pretty quick. Im a little disappointed I wont be able to watch the progress but Im excited to see them again in September when I get back.

For some reason when I look at them in on cooler days they seem a little mellower or like there are fewer around while really sunny days they look really busy and active when I pull it apart.

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