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Bobbin Threadbare posted:Recommendation: leave W. T. Fits (Kintaro) as a rearguard and bumrush the Phoenix Hawk with everyone else. The Wyvern can move to 1007 and flank while the rest head towards the engine and fire on the Hawk's right front. This sounds like a good plan to me. My orders are in 
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With the revelation that Kerensky lost and left the IS vowing revenge, even with my admittedly meager knowledge of BattleTech, this is very bad news. So the Clans are going to be doing a lot of scorched earth tactics all across the IS, not stopping when they get to Terra, aren't they? 
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May 30, 2011 18:26
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does the phawk move first? someone should charge its rear end... Let me put it this way, thanks to magboots it can't fall, so you might be able to SNAP IT LIKE A SLIMJIM if you hit it with something big. :savage: (such a great loss too)
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May 30, 2011 19:21
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AtomikKrab posted:does the phawk move first? someone should charge its rear end... Let me put it this way, thanks to magboots it can't fall, so you might be able to SNAP IT LIKE A SLIMJIM if you hit it with something big. It's heavier than most of the player 'Mechs 
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May 30, 2011 19:31
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That 'Phoenix Hawk' is going to be a bitch to whoever goes after it. W:5 is the magic number.
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May 30, 2011 19:39
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AtomikKrab posted:does the phawk move first? someone should charge its rear end... Let me put it this way, thanks to magboots it can't fall, so you might be able to SNAP IT LIKE A SLIMJIM if you hit it with something big. We don't have anything big the clan mechs have the realistic weight advantage of all being generally heavier than ours (which is much better than having a few more light mediums) edit: yeah I can't actually get around to hit C2 but I am continuing my strategic cowardice to hopefully live until it is dead and we have to deal with the double threat atelier morgan fucked around with this message at 20:05 on May 30, 2011 |
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May 30, 2011 19:48
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Mr. Despair posted:This sounds like a good plan to me. My orders are in Ditto - let's mess target C2 up something bad.
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May 30, 2011 20:02
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T.G. Xarbala posted:From earlier discussions, the early IS all sounded terribly feudal, where conflicts between Successor States were less battles between whole nations and more a dynastic kerfluffle minus the any claims to lineage legitimacy. As in, don't cause a ruckus and keep paying taxes and they'll just let you carry on. I would assume things were more like this in border systems, though. National identity and loyalty would be pretty strong in Luthien, Tharkad, or New Avalon I gather. On the other hand, most Clans probably wouldn't have that understanding I think and might treat their conquests a bit differently than the civilians were expecting, i.e. poorly. This is... pretty true. The only places that are going to have really strong national identity are provincial capitals, ones ruled by people who have ties to the ruling dynasty, and the key (so, Hesperus II or Kathil, not Marduk) industrial worlds. Everyone else, if you come in and take out the House forces garrisoning the place, will be more than happy to start paying you taxes instead, as long as you don't change ANYTHING.
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May 30, 2011 20:14
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Orders are in. Let's burn this bastard down as fast as we can before his buddies show up.
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May 30, 2011 21:01
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Thanks to the generosity of W.T. Fits, i've now got access to pms to coordinate this hopefully ASAP beating. Glad to be driving such an anthropomorphic 'mech; it means the writeup of the carnage due to befall my poor Wyvern will sound even more horrific. Orders in.
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May 30, 2011 21:31
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Revenant Threshold posted:Thanks to the generosity of W.T. Fits, i've now got access to pms to coordinate this hopefully ASAP beating. Yeah, the Wyvern really is an 'uncanny valley' design. It was intended to move as human-like as possible.
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May 30, 2011 21:39
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5/6 on 1 the Hawk, shred it with those srms, then kick it to death for afters.
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May 30, 2011 23:20
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PoptartsNinja posted:
So wait...If that's the case, then what happened to Clan Wolverine?
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May 30, 2011 23:49
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Defiance Industries posted:This is... pretty true. The only places that are going to have really strong national identity are provincial capitals, ones ruled by people who have ties to the ruling dynasty, and the key (so, Hesperus II or Kathil, not Marduk) industrial worlds. Marduk is an industrial world, though? Makes Griffins and Wolverines, and later the BHKU; Norse Battlemech Works/Victory Industries' plant there is one of the major ones, really. Proserpina might be a better example of what you're going for. EDIT: Oh lord. I just realized, there's really only two logical places the RWR forces could conceivably be in this timeline. Maybe an insane curveball could happen, but there's really only two that make any great degree of sense to me. And we've played as both of them so far. Fraction Jackson fucked around with this message at 00:17 on May 31, 2011 |
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May 31, 2011 00:14
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landcollector posted:Well, this changes things. I think the IS might be in for pain. Instead of making a direct thrust towards Terra, the Clans are destroying all they come across (if I'm not mistaken about their intentions). Doubtful. They're still the Clans, which means they still hate waste, and we saw on Somerset that at least one Clan is deliberately avoiding civilian casualties. Personally, I think this means they're going to be out for House members blood. This makes me worry for Ceaser Steiner though.
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May 31, 2011 00:48
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Poptarts should give us a mission as the not named clan (Wolverine), altered timeline = maybe they show up for a little revenge.
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May 31, 2011 01:10
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AtomikKrab posted:Poptarts should give us a mission as the not named clan (Wolverine), altered timeline = maybe they show up for a little revenge. Don't need the altered timeline for that. They were going for a lot of revenge and got the Jihad. Whoops.
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May 31, 2011 01:24
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paragon1 posted:Doubtful. They're still the Clans, which means they still hate waste, and we saw on Somerset that at least one Clan is deliberately avoiding civilian casualties. Personally, I think this means they're going to be out for House members blood. This makes me worry for Ceaser Steiner though. It does however explain the somewhat bemused reaction of the Star Colonel when she was informed that a Steiner would be excluded from the battle on Somerset. But yeah Ceaser might just be in over his head now.
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May 31, 2011 01:25
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Angry_Ed posted:It does however explain the somewhat bemused reaction of the Star Colonel when she was informed that a Steiner would be excluded from the battle on Somerset. It makes me wonder if Clan Steel Viper will do a Phelan Kell style mind screw on Caesar. After all, it would be delicious irony to brainwash a member of one of the Successor States houses into wanting to punish the IS, quiaff? (just a thought, I could be totally off base here. My knowledge/understanding of universe lore is incomplete at best.)
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May 31, 2011 01:32
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landcollector posted:It makes me wonder if Clan Steel Viper will do a Phelan Kell style mind screw on Caesar. After all, it would be delicious irony to brainwash a member of one of the Successor States houses into wanting to punish the IS, quiaff? (just a thought, I could be totally off base here. My knowledge/understanding of universe lore is incomplete at best.) It would be a fine and noble thing to teach Caesar Steiner the error of his ways, and the blood guilt his family name bears. And if he happens to be mindfucked into giving as much of the LCAF disposition as he knows, well, that is a happy benefit to the kind and powerful Steel Viper clan. edit: Actually, I am kind of sad at these revelations. In canon, the Clans did not have much going for them as an interesting group. Now, even the little bit they had- that they wanted to reunite the IS under the Star League's banner to clean up the Successor States' mess (at least in their own minds)- is gone, and they are even more cartoon-villain than they were in canon. Oh well. I will just clarify my support to be solely and exclusively pro-Steel Viper: The clan that still wants to work with the great houses to recreate the Star League. gently caress those other clans, they assholes. Mukaikubo fucked around with this message at 02:32 on May 31, 2011 |
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May 31, 2011 02:04
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Mukaikubo posted:
Cardassian game master. Expect the unexpected, Mukai.
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Fraction Jackson posted:EDIT: Oh lord. I just realized, there's really only two logical places the RWR forces could conceivably be in this timeline. Maybe an insane curveball could happen, but there's really only two that make any great degree of sense to me. And we've played as both of them so far. One of the guys in the current scenario should claim to have the last name "Amaris" just to see if it provokes a reaction.
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May 31, 2011 04:51
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Fraction Jackson posted:Marduk is an industrial world, though? Makes Griffins and Wolverines, and later the BHKU; Norse Battlemech Works/Victory Industries' plant there is one of the major ones, really. Marduk is an industrial world, but it is not a key industrial world that a state builds their army on top of. This is because Marduk has changed hands in every war the FS and DC fight since the game started. Marduk and worlds like it deliberately avoid cultivating ties to the regime because they trade hands pretty often.
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May 31, 2011 04:57
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AtomikKrab posted:Poptarts should give us a mission as the not named clan (Wolverine), altered timeline = maybe they show up for a little revenge. Nope, they're still dead. One reversal was enough--this time, the Wolves were thorough which means no Minnisota Tribe. Then again, the question is: after so much time, and at the hands of the Widowmakers, how much of Nicholas Kerensky's original vision for the Clans remains? I will say right now: every single Clan has their own goal, and every one of those goals is different.
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May 31, 2011 05:39
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PoptartsNinja posted:Nope, they're still dead. One reversal was enough--this time, the Wolves were thorough which means no Minnisota Tribe. So when does Hanse Davion trick them all into killing each other, House Kurita, and possibly Comstar? 
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Out of curiosity I was reading up on Stefan Amaris on the Sarna wiki since apparently he had followers and a family and such, as brutal crackpot dictators go, and couldn't find much info about House Amaris beyond the fact that they tended to consist mostly of brutal crackpot dictators. Also, Stefan Amaris looks really, really obviously painfully evil. Cartoonishly so. I'm guessing the Star League backstory doesn't quite share the same interesting political shenanigans the Successor States are known for.
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May 31, 2011 06:59
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SynthOrange posted:
I'd totally let him garrison my Space Empire any day.
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May 31, 2011 07:25
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SynthOrange posted:
This man is just a tricorn hat and a mainsail away from terrorizing the Spanish Main.
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May 31, 2011 07:33
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 Then there's this version. Less space-hobo, more spasian, and a rat-tail! v v
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May 31, 2011 07:47
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ShadowDragon8685 posted:This man is just a tricorn hat and a mainsail away from terrorizing the Spanish Main. I was gonna say baseball cap, and stained overalls from changing my oil at jiffy-lube.
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May 31, 2011 07:48
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bunnyofdoom posted:I was gonna say baseball cap, and stained overalls from changing my oil at jiffy-lube. Hrm... Could go either way. Or both. Maybe Amaris is the mechanic who rose to topple an empire?
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Defiance Industries posted:Marduk is an industrial world, but it is not a key industrial world that a state builds their army on top of. This is because Marduk has changed hands in every war the FS and DC fight since the game started. Well, they get attacked every war anyway. I think Marduk only officially changed hands once (in the 4th SW), although they were temporarily occupied a few other times. The FS tried to retake it in 3039 and during the Civil War when James Sandoval decided the civil war was boring and, you know, how about some good ol' anti-Drac nationalism? Apparently the answer to that question was "yes," and so... I don't disagree with your major point though, I'm just wondering if Marduk is the best example, is all. But then, I also concede that trying to nitpick on this point is the height of useless nerdery and I'll stop after this.
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Fraction Jackson posted:Well, they get attacked every war anyway. I think Marduk only officially changed hands once (in the 4th SW), although they were temporarily occupied a few other times. The FS tried to retake it in 3039 and during the Civil War when James Sandoval decided the civil war was boring and, you know, how about some good ol' anti-Drac nationalism? Apparently the answer to that question was "yes," and so... Well, any planet whose plant is controlled by a multi-national like StarCorps or Earthwerks is a good example, too. (Also Marduk changes hands at least once more in the future).
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May 31, 2011 08:25
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SynthOrange posted:
He was the villain from Pirates of Dark Water?
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May 31, 2011 08:46
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It's really eerie seeing Amaris right next to Zaodai's avatar like that.
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T.G. Xarbala posted:It's really eerie seeing Amaris right next to Zaodai's avatar like that. Took the words right out of my mouth. There really is an eerie similarity between the two that makes me shudder somewhat... EDIT: \/\/\/\/\/ DO IT... GhostStalker fucked around with this message at 09:20 on May 31, 2011 |
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May 31, 2011 09:17
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T.G. Xarbala posted:It's really eerie seeing Amaris right next to Zaodai's avatar like that. Don't tempt me. I'm this close to getting it for him.
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May 31, 2011 09:17
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Defiance Industries posted:Don't tempt me. I'm this close to getting it for him.  
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Defiance Industries posted:Don't tempt me. I'm this close to getting it for him. Hey now, Dong Zhou is a far better fat evil chinaman, even if he isn't from space. (And if you do resort to that, could you at least find a better picture of him? I know old school Battletech artwork was poo poo, but that takes the cake.)
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