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Megera
Sep 9, 2008

SpartanIV posted:

e: also gently caress the "Do you want it all on the card?" screen. That. loving. question.

What state are you in? I'm in California and have never been asked this even though I pay with credit card all the time.

I started a job at an animation studio this week, but the starting wage is about the same pay as retail. I know I'm being severely underpaid, especially with a 2/3-hour commute, but the benefits of just getting into the industry and working with awesome people outweigh working retail.

On a related note, I had sent in 7 applications for cosmetics sales at Nordstrom, including seasonal, and over the course of this week they all got rejected. I have experience from Macy's for the same job, so I'm not sure just how much experience they're looking for!

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Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

froglet posted:

Just heard this, thought of this thread:
I was speaking to my friend who still works at the large Australian supermarket I worked at when I was in highschool. She says a few signs were posted around the store in employee-only areas stating that cashiering staff had to show up to work with their own pen for customers to use to sign credit card slips with.

If they didn't they'd be required to purchase a pen at the start of their shift.

That's stooping pretty drat low, even for retail.

I would just get a novelty dick pen from an adult store and bring that in.

alreadybeen posted:

Not in retail but drat do I feel sorry for those who have to put up with it.

I was checking out at Target and after scanning the lines see a woman with about 15 items about to check out at the express line. The other lines had people with half-full carts so this lane was an easy pick. I get in line and the first thing I the woman (customer) says to the clerk is "I have a special skill." Already I am regretting my line choice decision but it's too late the other lines are even worse. She then tells the cashier that she has a photographic memory and can remember the exact price for every item in her order. She then says "scan these real slow so I can call out the prices before they come up on the computer :downs:". The clerk obliges (and based on this thread I'm guessing it's because he'll be written up if he doesn't) and slowly scans each item probably one every 20 seconds while the woman calls out prices. What should have been a two minutes transaction turned into about eight minutes. Then as she is paying, with cash counting out exact change, she starts talking about how her cousin has the same name as the cashier ('Brad' - what a loving exotic name).

She finally left, I looked at the clerk and just said 'Sorry'.

Side note, I love how at Target you can swipe your card prior to the total ringing up. They are the quickest store to check out of if you know what you are doing.

Believe it or not, if you're a customer, you can say something like "Lady, that is great, but there are other people behind you in line and we'd appreciate it if you just paid for your stuff like a normal person instead of holding everybody up."

I am hella PEEVED
Oct 25, 2007

Welcome to Earth.

Pompous Rhombus posted:

Believe it or not, if you're a customer, you can say something like "Lady, that is great, but there are other people behind you in line and we'd appreciate it if you just paid for your stuff like a normal person instead of holding everybody up."

Then she flips out and makes a scene which not only causes the lines to get longer, but the poor cashier to have to deal with some grumpy rear end woman and probably have to get AP.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






alreadybeen posted:

Side note, I love how at Target you can swipe your card prior to the total ringing up. They are the quickest store to check out of if you know what you are doing.
Yeah it's pretty great. Most supermarkets here have it nowadays. Swipe card, enter pin, bag up all your groceries, when it's time to pay just hit OK and you're outta there.

Halisnacks
Jul 18, 2009
What makes swiping and entering your PIN before bagging groceries more convenient than doing so after?

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

Halisnacks posted:

What makes swiping and entering your PIN before bagging groceries more convenient than doing so after?
It's faster because then the scanning/bagging and swiping/entering are happening concurrently instead of sequentially.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Cicero posted:

It's faster because then the scanning/bagging and swiping/entering are happening concurrently instead of sequentially.

Exactly. You can swipe+pin during the scanning, catch up with bagging, and once everything is scanned and bagged you hit OK.

ijii
Mar 17, 2007
I'M APPARENTLY GAY AND MY POSTING SUCKS.
We got in our shipment of product tonight and noticed how we didn't get anymore ad items in even though our busiest day of the week is tomorrow and equally busy holiday, Memorial Day. Chalk up another big blunder by our boss.

I used up the last of it earlier today and won't get any more in until Monday night. So now we're hosed for the next two days and we're going to get a bunch of poo poo from everyone.

Oh wait, that's right... I'm on vacation now for a week :).

Actually I volunteered to work 32 hours at another store. Floating to other stores for extra hours is awesome because I have a lot fewer responsibilities to take care of. So next week I get a vacation paycheck and a regular paycheck.

Also there's rumors going about how lot of people getting moved around to different stores. You see, we're all bunch of drat kids who can't get along, so it is normal about every 6 months for people in our department to get transferred. I'm crossing my fingers in hope I'm one of them. I'm sure my boss mentioned to the supervisor that he's like a different assistant.

Damn Bananas
Jul 1, 2007

You humans bore me

ijii posted:

Floating to other stores for extra hours is awesome
Is this a common thing at a lot of stores I've just never heard of? I would do this in a heartbeat but just simply transferring from one store to another was a 2 month pain in the rear end, I don't imagine my managers would be capable of figuring this float-y thing out.

Ira Glass Jaw
Oct 21, 2010

modeski posted:

Are they really going to fire everyone and make them reapply? Surely they'd be relocating you to another store or something. That seems incredibly harsh to lay people off like that for no good reason.
Ya we're all getting laid off. The company sold off the leases to three quarters of the stores they have nation wide. All those stores are being converted to a Target or some other chain owned by Target. So there really isn't any store left to get transfered to.

ijii
Mar 17, 2007
I'M APPARENTLY GAY AND MY POSTING SUCKS.

drat Bananas posted:

Is this a common thing at a lot of stores I've just never heard of? I would do this in a heartbeat but just simply transferring from one store to another was a 2 month pain in the rear end, I don't imagine my managers would be capable of figuring this float-y thing out.

I work in division of 120 grocery stores. The parent company and the other divisions make up probably hundreds of other stores nation wide. So overall the company is really big and has come a long way in creating a good network to communicate information for everything in this digital age.

When I clock in and clock out, I use a fingerprint machine that matches my personal number that I also put in. All this information is stored in some server/network that gets sent to company office.

If I want to help out at another store (floating), I go to that store and put in my store number, personal number, and fingerprint and it will record the time I work and it will show up on my paycheck. Of course I have to make sure I won't get overtime when I do help out other stores or else I'll get bitched out by someone. I don't even have to let my "home store" know that I'm floating unless the other store must use overtime for that help.

Communication is the key here. If I want to go to another store for my home store (actual transfer), I have to go through my supervisor and store manager and see if they can swap me directly with another person of the same position. Again there's 20 stores, probably about 10 of them within reasonable driving distance, so it's not like it's hard to find a swap.

There are many many reasons why people get transferred, so in the end that's why the company has a simple transfer system.

EDIT:

Skulduggery posted:

Ya we're all getting laid off. The company sold off the leases to three quarters of the stores they have nation wide. All those stores are being converted to a Target or some other chain owned by Target. So there really isn't any store left to get transfered to.
That is still bullshit. Companies having been merging for over a decade now, including the one I'm employed at. I wasn't around when those particular merges took place, but none of the employees lost their job at store level. The parent companies honored employees' original contracts and gradually phased out old companies policies and products.

ijii fucked around with this message at 07:16 on May 29, 2011

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

ijii posted:

honored employees' original contracts

Willing to bet that this is why they're taking this route.

I'll give you ten-to-one odds that whatever number of former employees get rehired will be rehired for less pay and/or benefits (hahaha benefits in retail hahahahahaa), etc, etc.

Dog Blogs Man
Apr 16, 2007

how are you gentlemen i am a god amongst goons
Not sure if this is normal, but the other day I was asked by a customer 'I've lost my car keys, can you look after my kids while I find them?'. I'm the service area supervisor, it was peak time before dinner (supermarket), and I was meant to be on my break already, which I told him. His response was something like 'what, you can't spare a few minutes out of your precious break to help someone? Where's your manager?' I just stared blankly at him then walked away, knowing that if he had the nerve to get someone else to call the duty manager she would pretty much (almost literally) tell him to gently caress off.
I'm glad this is my secondary weekend job so I don't have to ever bow to that poo poo.

As I walked out of the store to buy some food I saw him having the same argument with the next supervisor at the desk who really didn't seem keen on abandoning the service desk to watch some kids either, strangely.

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

'Cause we're the good guys.

spankmeister posted:

Yeah it's pretty great. Most supermarkets here have it nowadays. Swipe card, enter pin, bag up all your groceries, when it's time to pay just hit OK and you're outta there.

I've never seen a store where you couldn't do that. You just have to wait for the first item to scan, so the ticket is "open", then you're good to go.

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Dog Blogs Man posted:

Not sure if this is normal, but the other day I was asked by a customer 'I've lost my car keys, can you look after my kids while I find them?'.
Customers in general have just the weirdest, most confused attitude towards service-industry workers. It makes no sense at all. We're inhuman scum, we're dumb as paint, we aren't worthy of the slightest human consideration, and yet we also can be trusted to look after children who are total strangers to us and ALSO we have magical powers (making merchandise that is not in the store appear if we really, really want to etc.) Bizarre. [e: It just occurred to me that this is also the classic noblesse oblige attitude towards household servants. :( )

Today's gripe: CUSTOMER. JUST ANSWER MY QUESTION PLEASE.

:j: Hey, someone put a book on hold for me?
:) [We file holds under the customer's last name] Okay, no problem. What's your last name?
:j: I think the girl I talked to was named Jennifer.
:) Okay, but may I have YOUR last name?
:j: This was at about 10 this morning.
:) Good. It should be here. What's your last name?
:j: The book is "The Help". [It's ALWAYS "The Help".]
:) WHAT. IS. YOUR. LAST. NAME.
:j: Oh! It's Jones. But the author's last name is Stockett...

JESUS

spite house fucked around with this message at 20:24 on May 29, 2011

Testro
May 2, 2009
^ Yes, yes, yes. This a billion times! I have had that conversation *so* many times.

Or the other great one is when someone starts on a massive monologue (particularly by phone), which is impossible to interrupt and gives you every single piece of information about themselves which you absolutely do not need. All I ever want in the first 10 seconds of a phonecall is your account number.

However, I have learnt that interrupting gets you nowhere, so now I just watch the clock on the phone and work out how many minutes of my day I've spent listening to stories that aren't relevant in any way, shape or form. The record is 4 and 3/4 minutes on one call before I was able to request their account number.

ladyweapon
Nov 6, 2010

It reads all over his face,
like he's an Italian.

Testro posted:

However, I have learnt that interrupting gets you nowhere, so now I just watch the clock on the phone and work out how many minutes of my day I've spent listening to stories that aren't relevant in any way, shape or form. The record is 4 and 3/4 minutes on one call before I was able to request their account number.

My old manager was the worst about this poo poo. Except I worked fast food, I was under a 4 minute gun all night. I can't let you prattle on about your order because my machine didn't allow skipping around. If I didn't have a size, I couldn't do gently caress all with your order. You know what people hate, especially drunk after last call? Being interrupted. I could rarely do it nicely either because they aren't actually listening to anything, they're just verbal vomiting their order. About half way through once I get them to shut the gently caress up, we get to start over and I'm sitting at 3 1/2 minutes. Then they call and complain because I'm RUDE.

The best thing is that grave doesn't get to prep, for the most part, everything is fresh. Fries take something like 2 1/2 minutes to cook. The timer starts when your dumbass pulls up. Four minutes to get you to figure out what you want, shut you up when you don't follow my prompts, cook and prepare the food, bag it, get you to pay (if you can find your money), and get you to LEAVE because the timer doesnt stop till you pull out of the drive completely.

I think my blood pressure went up just telling that story

spite house
Apr 28, 2009

Testro posted:

^ Yes, yes, yes. This a billion times! I have had that conversation *so* many times.

Or the other great one is when someone starts on a massive monologue (particularly by phone), which is impossible to interrupt and gives you every single piece of information about themselves which you absolutely do not need. All I ever want in the first 10 seconds of a phonecall is your account number.

However, I have learnt that interrupting gets you nowhere, so now I just watch the clock on the phone and work out how many minutes of my day I've spent listening to stories that aren't relevant in any way, shape or form. The record is 4 and 3/4 minutes on one call before I was able to request their account number.
Yes. The overshare. The bane of my existence.

I once had a customer get super-pissed at me because I interrupted her two-minute monologue about the extenuating circumstances surrounding her return. I interrupted her to say "Yes, it's no problem, we can do the return". That was not enough, apparently; she not only wanted a refund, she also wanted to hold me captive and make me listen to her talk about her fascinating life. Because retail establishments exist to make people feel good about themselves in any and all ways, don't you know.

Volcano
Apr 10, 2008


spite house posted:

Yes. The overshare. The bane of my existence.

I once had a customer get super-pissed at me because I interrupted her two-minute monologue about the extenuating circumstances surrounding her return. I interrupted her to say "Yes, it's no problem, we can do the return". That was not enough, apparently; she not only wanted a refund, she also wanted to hold me captive and make me listen to her talk about her fascinating life. Because retail establishments exist to make people feel good about themselves in any and all ways, don't you know.

We've had a guy coming in for at least a year now who regularly spends a good twenty minutes "entertaining" everyone with an almost identical monologue involving paraphrased Oscar Wilde quotes, unsettling sexual comments about his wife and the line "You shouldn't be as big as a house... you should be as big as a row of houses!!!" God forbid anybody else try to buy something when he's busy talking to us, because if I turn away to help them, he barges in and includes them in his audience until he runs out of awful jokes ("My psychiatrist says I'm indecisive, but now I'm not so sure!") or they manage to escape. I can't even begin to count how many potential customers he's driven off.

The only thing he ever buys is a single sweet that costs 30p. We've started hiding behind the counters whenever we spot him outside zig-zagging between his gigs at neighbouring shops. I think every retail worker in town runs from him on sight.

NarwhalParty
Jul 23, 2010
I hate the people that give me a half hour explanation of why they need a certain medication over the phone at my job. This one woman always calls in and tells us she needs her antidepressants because her husband had died and she always starts crying. Thing is, her husband died almost a decade ago. It's just really awkward and I never know what to say.

The customers that ask personal questions get me ticked off the most, though. I get tons of customers that ask about my religion and why I'm not doing more with my college degree. My husband works at a restaurant and people ask him all the time if we are planning to have kids. I guess "no, we both hate kids" doesn't bring him in as many tips.

uptown
May 16, 2009

NarwhalParty posted:

The customers that ask personal questions get me ticked off the most, though. I get tons of customers that ask about my religion and why I'm not doing more with my college degree. My husband works at a restaurant and people ask him all the time if we are planning to have kids. I guess "no, we both hate kids" doesn't bring him in as many tips.

What the gently caress? Not that it's any more acceptable if the answer is "yes," but are you visibly of a different religion/cultural group? Wear a star of David, headscarf, anything?

My current gripe is this: H&M does not have a uniform policy, and yet for the entire summer, from Thursday to Sunday, we have to wear these horrible and unflattering staff shirts. One of the main things the company tries to promote is personal style, so this forcing us to wear staff shirts thing is straight up bullshit.

Edited to add: We each got two shirts so that we can wash them in between wears. At least there's that silver lining.

I'm a student so I'm not used to working 40-hour weeks. I've found that it doesn't make me grumpy, but has given me a take-no-poo poo attitude with customers. Yesterday, when I was in the fitting rooms, a guy and his girlfriend came in with a fair amount of items. We have a limit of 7 in a room at a time, and when I told him this, he actually said "Are you loving kidding me?" I looked at him like he was a complete idiot and said that I wasn't kidding him. He was also being really rude to his girlfriend and just seemed like a hostile rear end in a top hat. Anyways, eventually I get him to his room and start showing other people rooms. I notice that his girlfriend has disappeared, and so I get my coworker who is tall and male to inform them that we can't have two people in the fitting rooms at the same time. After my coworker walks away, I hear rear end in a top hat saying "Wow, you really take your job seriously, huh?" and I just couldn't deal with him being an rear end in a top hat any longer. I knocked on his door and said "Just so you know, if you continue to be hostile towards employees, we can feel free to call our manager and have you removed from the store," at which point he became quiet as a mouse.

I just don't understand how people don't understand that retail/foodservice workers are just people doing their jobs. Do I really give a poo poo if he has more than 7 things in his room? No, but my managers sure do. I'd rather not risk my job over some guy being a jerk, and luckily at my store, managers will back us up if someone is being aggressive.

Damn Bananas
Jul 1, 2007

You humans bore me

spite house posted:

Yes. The overshare. The bane of my existence.
Hah, on the other side of the fence one of my coworkers (cashier) does it to customers. Our company tries really hard to never have 2 people in a line at a time, and I was walking by and noticed a gigantic line forming so I opened up the register next to this girl. She's reciting a goddamn recipe to a customer who is nodding politely and clearly steering her body language to "I'm trying to leave, girl, hurry up" Guess you can't fault people-persons for joining the service industry but come on. Cooking tips at a clothing store?

A COMPUTER GUY
Aug 23, 2007

I can't spare this man - he fights.
I hate customers.

Phone rings, and I pick it up.

"Thanks for calling T-Mobile blah blah blah blah blah my name is Ulysses, how may I help you?"

"Are y'all AT&T?

:suicide:

This happens twenty times a day.

Dodgeball
Sep 24, 2003

Oh no! Dodgeball is really scary!
So my uncle was uncharacteristically a dick to a cashier on Saturday. I had to act extra special nice to the guy to balance him out.

Fourth panel.

modeski
Apr 21, 2005

Deceive, inveigle, obfuscate.

Ulysses S. Grant posted:

This happens twenty times a day.

Tell me that when they ask you this you simply repeat: "Thanks for calling T-Mobile blah blah blah blah blah my name is Ulysses, how may I help you?"

Over and over and over again.

Avalanche
Feb 2, 2007

uptown posted:


I just don't understand how people don't understand that retail/foodservice workers are just people doing their jobs.


It's the Just-World Fallacy in action. Servers, retail peons, and people working at Mcdonalds are all horrible monsters who are in those jobs for a reason. They did something wrong in life, and are working those jobs to pay for their mistakes... or so the idea goes.
Therefore, it is perfectly fine to treat them all like dogshit on the lawn.

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





The thing is, people working in McDs, supermarkets etc here don't get treated like this; I've worked in a supermarket and a bookshop in the past and NO-ONE ever spoke to me in the way that lots of people have described in this thread, and my hometown is a mixture of rough and a bit posh.

I've heard it said that one of the bigger protestant sects (can't remember which) in the U.S. managed to associate material success in life with being a good and righteous person and therefore people who "failed" were de facto bad people, and that this attitude managed to spread throughout society.

I don't have anything beyond a vague memory of some academic paper I read in the past to back this up.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Pookah posted:

I've heard it said that one of the bigger protestant sects (can't remember which) in the U.S. managed to associate material success in life with being a good and righteous person and therefore people who "failed" were de facto bad people, and that this attitude managed to spread throughout society.
I think it's more that the American society is very hierarchical and as such once you are "below" someone in their view it suddenly becomes okay to treat them like poo poo.

Cast_No_Shadow
Jun 8, 2010

The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

Avalanche posted:

It's the Just-World Fallacy in action. Servers, retail peons, and people working at Mcdonalds are all horrible monsters who are in those jobs for a reason. They did something wrong in life, and are working those jobs to pay for their mistakes... or so the idea goes.
Therefore, it is perfectly fine to treat them all like dogshit on the lawn.

Caste system anyone? Just swap mistakes in this life for the previous life and ugh I can't finish this sentance

copy of a
Mar 13, 2010

by zen death robot
Any tips on how to deal with crippling back pain, neck pain, and shoulder pain gained from standing in an upright position for hours on end?

Chicken Doodle
May 16, 2007

silversiren posted:

Any tips on how to deal with crippling back pain, neck pain, and shoulder pain gained from standing in an upright position for hours on end?

Shoes. Really, really good shoes. I had to pay $150 for some top quality foam ones but the difference paid off almost right away. Especially since I have back/leg problems even when I'm NOT standing up for hours at a time.

Angry Tiny Man
Feb 26, 2007

At last, after three and a half years in my retail job, I got my first performance review. The only mark against me was that I needed to be a little more proactive with customers, but I was an outstanding employee otherwise.

I did well enough to earn a raise, at least. Now I've gone from $8 an hour to...$8.25. :sigh: I really wish I would hear back from any of the new jobs I've applied to, I'm so sick of selling shoes.

copy of a
Mar 13, 2010

by zen death robot

Chicken Doodle posted:

Shoes. Really, really good shoes. I had to pay $150 for some top quality foam ones but the difference paid off almost right away. Especially since I have back/leg problems even when I'm NOT standing up for hours at a time.

I bought some really nice comfortable shoes a few months ago and they worked wonders. It's just in these last two weeks my back has been loving killing me, making it hard to breathe even. Maybe I just have some underlying medical issue.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Ulysses S. Grant posted:

I hate customers.

Phone rings, and I pick it up.

"Thanks for calling T-Mobile blah blah blah blah blah my name is Ulysses, how may I help you?"

"Are y'all AT&T?

:suicide:

This happens twenty times a day.

I'm the rear end in a top hat who stops by the T-Mobile kiosk with quips like this every day (we are friends). Too too much fun. Sometimes if I know my customer is going to at least go talk to them I can give them talking points on it.

My personal hate is how many people stop by my kiosk and ask something about the iPhone, "when is sprint getting it," "does sprint have it," and my favorite "do you have otters for iPhones?" No damnit I don't carry iPhone accessories nor do I care about whether it is coming to sprint.

Masey
Aug 22, 2006
Pancakes.
I work at a major electronics retailer in the US, I have a blue polo, it's pretty obvious which I work at.

I am always super polite whenever I go anywhere where the employees are treated like we are and I happen upon a grocery store almost every morning for a yogurt and OJ before I clock in at 7AM. I'm pretty sure everyone knows me by name and goes out of their way to help me just because I greet people... and you know act decent.

Why can't everyone be nice to retail employees :(

Also it is really saddening when I get thank you'd at Taco Bell drive-thru window because I was polite(specfically told me this) and said thank you, and asked how their day was...

Death Bear
Apr 1, 2010

Ulysses S. Grant posted:

"Thanks for calling T-Mobile blah blah blah blah blah my name is Ulysses, how may I help you?"

"Are y'all AT&T?

The most entertaining one I had was:

"Thank you for calling [blank] Books, can I help you?"
"Yeah, is this Grotto Pizza?"

:geno:

I have an interview coming up Wednesday at Michael's. I'm hoping they'll let me work a couple extra days a week for the summer to help fill out my meager paycheck. I've been at the bookstore for four years this August and I'm still making $8 an hour. Part of me is considering scaling back my hours at the bookstore and taking more on at Michael's if I get the job there instead, but I'm getting ahead of myself.

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf
I like "So when is the iPhone 5 coming out?"

Because making near minimum wage means I'm privy to the most confidential corporate information

Sonic Dude
May 6, 2009

SpartanIV posted:

I like "So when is the iPhone 5 coming out?"

Because making near minimum wage means I'm privy to the most confidential corporate information
Solution:

:reject:: So when is the iPhone 5 coming out?
:v:: Oh, it's already out. Right over here. <shows iPhone 4>
:reject:: Uh, whatever. <walks away of his own accord>

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

Part-Time Robot posted:

The most entertaining one I had was:

"Thank you for calling [blank] Books, can I help you?"
"Yeah, is this Grotto Pizza?"

:geno:

My friend works at a garden irrigation store in Australia. Apparently the premise and the telephone number used to be for an electronics lay-by and repairs store in the mid-90s. He knows this because people still keep calling up asking about the television they bought there 15 years ago.

Except... he just helps them out with their televisions and whatnot anyway. So they keep calling and asking for him. :psyduck:

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alreadybeen
Nov 24, 2009

SpartanIV posted:

I like "So when is the iPhone 5 coming out?"

Because making near minimum wage means I'm privy to the most confidential corporate information

Many casual users who aren't rabid Apple fans probably have no idea if there has been an announcement or not.

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