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PoptartsNinja posted:Nadir: Tactical Update 6 What the poo poo is this thing doing that it's not moving or firing a gun and it's still generating that much heat? 
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SageNytell posted:What the poo poo is this thing doing that it's not moving or firing a gun and it's still generating that much heat? That's a very good question. Acting as a delivery platform for Elementals doesn't generate heat, does it?
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Jun 7, 2011 04:37
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SageNytell posted:What the poo poo is this thing doing that it's not moving or firing a gun and it's still generating that much heat? Microwaving Jiffy-Pop. It's going to go back in time!
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Jun 7, 2011 04:48
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SageNytell posted:What the poo poo is this thing doing that it's not moving or firing a gun and it's still generating that much heat? Cutting through the hull to board elementals? Maybe the second round is on the ship.
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Jun 7, 2011 04:56
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Stackpoling its way through the ship hull!
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Jun 7, 2011 04:59
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SageNytell posted:What the poo poo is this thing doing that it's not moving or firing a gun and it's still generating that much heat? The jump infantry finally entered the fight. They were greeted with silly overkill.
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Jun 7, 2011 05:01
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SageNytell posted:What the poo poo is this thing doing that it's not moving or firing a gun and it's still generating that much heat? It says so right there: It's holding fire! Fire is hot.
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Jun 7, 2011 05:31
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That's a thought. Clearly the elementals clinging to it are armed with Flamers. They're busy setting it on fire. Next turn, the Guillotine is going to run forward and crash tackle the Kintaro and punch that hater bot in the face, whilst on fire.
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Jun 7, 2011 05:38
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Nice job turning the tables on those elementals. I mean, it's clearly only a temporary victory, but the satisfaction of crushing a few of those little fuckers must be incredible.
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Jun 7, 2011 05:50
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Vox Nihili posted:Nice job turning the tables on those elementals. I mean, it's clearly only a temporary victory, but the satisfaction of crushing a few of those little fuckers must be incredible. You have no idea how true this is. It takes 11 points of damage to destroy a single Elemental. A Mech's kick does 1 point of damage per 5 tons of weight. My Kintaro weighs 55 tons. I punch those numbers into my calculator, it makes a happy face. 
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Jun 7, 2011 06:38
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Artificer posted:I suppose. But IS's incredibly industrial and numerical advantage sort of negates that... ComStar alone has enough industrial output to beat a couple clans, especially because they have the tech to make it a sort-of-fair fight. The Terra system is a very valuable place to own. Also: Sucks so bad to be the Kintaro. Wouldn't that count as a breach, or does he have to take a crit there first?
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Jun 7, 2011 06:50
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Maybe in this timeline the Clans will actually increase Sibko production on newly conquered worlds and refit old factories on those same worlds. And be up to IS standards in like a few years.
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Jun 7, 2011 09:58
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PoptartsNinja posted:The cold vacuum of space... But...there is no conduction or convection of heat into a vacuum...only radiation. In fact, shouldn't all the heat sinks be working less effectively right now? Did I miss where that was stated or does BT not space the same way as reality? Oh wait, tv tropes says that in the Mechwarrior games that Mechs cool faster in vacuums and "Mechs and aerospace fighters are described as using heat sinks to vent heat, which are sometimes described as being specialized to work in a vacuum." Well, it is still probably a good idea to turn the coolant in the suit off, or down at least since the pilot is only going to be getting heat from their own body and the seat at this point. Space will insulate them pretty well but if the coolant sucks away their heat they might have problems.
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Jun 7, 2011 09:59
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Farseli posted:But...there is no conduction or convection of heat into a vacuum...only radiation. In fact, shouldn't all the heat sinks be working less effectively right now? Did I miss where that was stated or does BT not space the same way as reality? Dude, haven't you been paying attention? Thermodynamics is LosTech. (translation: 'Stop trying to make the science work, it doesn't. Just run with it.')
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Jun 7, 2011 10:31
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I wonder if we're going to see any hilarious vehicles in the future, or even on the next mission. Something like the J-27 Ordinance Transport. Edit: Speaking of strange things, is there any particular reason why making a 20 ton clan mech with maximum efficient ferro fibrous armor, a 200 rating XL engine, Endo-steel frame and 10 ER Small lasers is a bad idea for a build? Or did SSW glitch out somewhere and make a non-tournament legal mech. Edit2: Aside from it being extremely cheesy that is. Edit Again: Oh. And I guess I can pop MASC on there if I remove a heatsink, meaning I'd be gaining 2 heat every turn at the most if I alpha-struck. And the mech could move 20 hexes if it got lucky. And I didn't break the laws of physics. evilmiera fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Jun 7, 2011 |
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Jun 7, 2011 12:37
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:(translation: 'Stop trying to make the science work, it doesn't. Just run with it.') Pretty much. Same thing with 'mech Stackpoling (fusion reactors exploding like nukes). Some aspects of BT tech are actually somewhat believable, but others just aren't. It was never meant to be an "hardcore science" game. And I was wondering why, after not having followed the thread for a couple of days, the post count skyrocketed! So, nay-sayers, what do you think of the "they can't be as terrifying as they make them out to be" Elementals now?*  *I'm sorry, I really am, but I just couldn't resist
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Jun 7, 2011 13:24
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evilmiera posted:Edit: Speaking of strange things, is there any particular reason why making a 20 ton clan mech with maximum efficient ferro fibrous armor, a 200 rating XL engine, Endo-steel frame and 10 ER Small lasers is a bad idea for a build? Or did SSW glitch out somewhere and make a non-tournament legal mech.
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Jun 7, 2011 13:45
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radintorov posted:So, nay-sayers, what do you think of the "they can't be as terrifying as they make them out to be" Elementals now?* They make me want to punch someone in the face. And I'm not even the one fighting them. ...Is that the INTENDED effect?
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Jun 7, 2011 14:03
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Helter Skelter posted:The clans already had that idea. They even refined the design.
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Jun 7, 2011 14:20
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Artificer posted:One would think nobody with a self-preservation instinct would ever be an elemental, what with the atrociously high turnover rate. Still lower than that of normal infantry, at a slightly higher cost. Elementals are also quite cheap to produce--at least for the Clans, and can effectively destroy other Clan 'Mechs at minimal cost. To the Clans, they're pretty much the perfect unit: cheap (five lives and something like 2-million c-bills, compared to one and seventeen million for a Clan omni), allow good warriors to shine, and reasonably mobile. Plus, they have several interesting flavors: like napalm and mini-autocannon and streak SRMs.
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Jun 7, 2011 14:21
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PoptartsNinja posted:
MJ12 posted:The IS has no practical way of making use of Clan genetic engineering to grow their own soldiers, and they were looking for every combat edge they could get around the 3050s-3060s. Enter old Star League technology. In the Star League, there were techniques used to impregnate human muscle fiber with myomers to restore mobility to crippled individuals. Longinus00 posted:They even refined the design.
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Jun 7, 2011 14:38
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You would not wear a leather flight jacket in a Battlemech. You would die. Also, with no neurohelmet, you're just going to fall flat on your rear end the moment you try to take a step.
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radintorov posted:So, nay-sayers, what do you think of the "they can't be as terrifying as they make them out to be" Elementals now?* I already answered this, but I'll repeat myself for your sake, since you seem to have missed it. W.T. Fits posted:I, for one, am unimpressed.
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Jun 7, 2011 14:45
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Arquinsiel posted:Actually it's possible to pilot them, it's just really really really difficult and anything fancier than "move forward SLOWLY" will often result in faceplants. Speaking of which, removing 3 small lasers and fiddling around slightly with the design results in the mech now having 5 points of jump jets. Can't for the life of me figure out what crazy pilot would dare use the thing though.
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Jun 7, 2011 15:14
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Arquinsiel posted:Then they refined it MORE. Cripes, a fast light with an Erpsie? That's terrifying, assuming it's sinked enough to use it frequently.
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Jun 7, 2011 15:15
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Crepuscule Adepte posted:...Is that the INTENDED effect? W.T. Fits posted:I already answered this, but I'll repeat myself for your sake, since you seem to have missed it.  Also, if I'm not mistaken, you get the: 
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Jun 7, 2011 15:42
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radintorov posted:Also, if I'm not mistaken, you get the: I accept this accolade with all the gravity and serious the situation calls for.  On that note, I was faced with a difficult decision at this point - back off for a moment and play it safe; or do something crazy and stupid that'll probably wind up killing me. Orders sent. 
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Jun 7, 2011 16:20
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SageNytell posted:What the poo poo is this thing doing that it's not moving or firing a gun and it's still generating that much heat? You need all those double heats on account of the the pilot. 
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Jun 7, 2011 17:45
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TildeATH posted:You need all those double heats on account of the the pilot.  I am greatly disturbed by this.
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Jun 7, 2011 18:08
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TildeATH posted:You need all those double heats on account of the the pilot. Mystery solved. But seriously, that continues to be one of the funniest weird fan-art things to come out of this thread.
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Jun 7, 2011 18:36
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Dolash posted:Mystery solved. I think that the Crab scuttling away has it beat, but it is pretty hilarious.
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Jun 7, 2011 18:42
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Dolash posted:Mystery solved. I left it with a stock paint job so that Pimpmust can, well, you know.
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Jun 7, 2011 19:26
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Actually, if you're facing the dark area of space heat loss by radiation can be really impressive. Go to the desert at night and line a hole with aluminum foil, and you can make waterbottles explode by radiating heat into a cold sky.
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Jun 7, 2011 19:38
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TildeATH posted:You need all those double heats on account of the the pilot. That design looks dangerously hot, will need some more heatsinks... but where?  Oh right, there.  e: A slight improvement, I think. Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Jun 7, 2011 |
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Jun 7, 2011 19:41
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You seem to be under the impression he's driving a Hauptmann, the nigh-unkillable pride of the LCAF.
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Jun 7, 2011 19:56
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Pimpmust posted:The Guillotine IIC, everyone. 
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Jun 7, 2011 19:57
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Rivensteel posted:Cripes, a fast light with an Erpsie? That's terrifying, assuming it's sinked enough to use it frequently. Arquinsiel fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jun 7, 2011 |
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Jun 7, 2011 20:13
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TildeATH posted:The Guillotine IIC, everyone.  This fight is a lost cause if that's what we're facing.
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Jun 7, 2011 20:53
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Defiance Industries posted:You seem to be under the impression he's driving a Hauptmann, the nigh-unkillable pride of the LCAF. 
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Jun 7, 2011 21:24
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wiegieman posted:Actually, if you're facing the dark area of space heat loss by radiation can be really impressive. Go to the desert at night and line a hole with aluminum foil, and you can make waterbottles explode by radiating heat into a cold sky. That relies on having air to carry the heat away (convection) not actually radiation of heat. In fact a water bottle is an absolutely terrible radiator. Radiation is a pretty strict and easy to calculate value for any given amount of energy and given radiator so we should just assume that mech heatsinks, like mech armor, are made of mst3kium.
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Nevets posted:Voted five, went hog wild.
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