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- BI NOW GAY LATER
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So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.
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So, I talked about this a little in the NCAAF Off-season thread, but this is likely a better place for it.
As some of you may know, WVU Head-Coach-in-Waiting Dana Holgerson was involved in an incident at a Casino, Race-Track and Bar outside of Charleston, WV. This prompted featured columnist Chuck Landon, from the Huntington's Hearld-Dispatch, one of the larger papers in the state to pen this piece:
quote:Chuck Landon: Holgorsen gambling on future at WVU
May 28, 2011 @ 11:00 PM
The Herald-Dispatch
Maybe now we know why the University of Pittsburgh passed on Dana Holgorsen.
West Virginia University's new football offensive coordinator and head coach-in-waiting came to the state with a reputation of being a partier.
But, apparently WVU wasn't too concerned about Holgorsen's character because it hired him to replace Bill Stewart in 2012 and gave him a six-year, $14.275 million contract.
Guess what?
WVU officials care now.
Holgorsen has reportedly been involved in at least three and, perhaps, as many as six alcohol-related incidents in the last six months, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the situation.
That's right, six.
The first five were hushed up, but the sixth incident at Mardi Gras Casino in Cross Lanes on May 18 has blown the cover off Holgorsen's embarrassing antics. Nitro police were called to the casino at about 3:20 a.m. on May 18 to remove an apparently intoxicated customer who didn't want to leave. Holgorsen was asked to step outside, sit on a bench and await a taxi. No charges were filed.
That sent WVU into damage control.
WVU athletic director Oliver Luck was summoned back to Morgantown from a Big East Conference athletic directors meeting by school president James Clements, according to sources. WVU's president reportedly told Luck that if he read one more article about the coach-in-waiting, it would cost Luck his job.
A predictable mea culpa statement from Holgorsen followed, saying, "I will not put myself in that situation again."
But, is he ready to turn over a new leaf?
The Intelligencer/Wheeling News-Register reported Saturday that Holgorsen allegedly was asked to leave both a bar inside Oglebay Park and, later, at Wheeling Island Hotel, Casino and Racetrack earlier this year.
Sources say there was also an incident at Pete Dye Golf Club in Bridgeport, W.Va., which involved Holgerson being told to leave and not come back. And, then, there are rumors of three incidents at the Morgantown hotel in which he lives, including being banned from the hotel bar.
Also, there are allegations he was asked to leave the Union Pub And Grill in Huntington on Oct. 28, 2008. That's the night Marshall upset Houston, 37-23, at Edwards Stadium in a game nationally televised by ESPN. Holgorsen was the Cougars' offensive coordinator.
"I can't say for sure," said Herb Stanley, long-time owner of The Union. "That was the game when the Houston receiver (Patrick Edwards) suffered that broken leg.
"The ESPN guys were in here after the game watching the replay and they were talking about how bad that was. There were a couple of Marshall facilities guys in here, too, and it did get pretty heated.
"So, it's entirely possible."
What isn't possible is removing the egg from WVU's face.
When gambling is one of the prime issues in collegiate athletics and Holgorsen is tossed from two casinos in a matter of months, how does WVU spin that?
And how can Holgorsen legitimately discipline players for breaking curfew or being intoxicated?
Those are questions without answers.
Meanwhile, Luck is busy trying to get permission to sell beer inside Mountaineer Field.
And, now, I think I know why.
Maybe, it's so Holgorsen won't have to leave the stadium at halftime.
On first glance, this appears to be a damning article accusing the head coaching in waiting of a lot of things and appears to reveal a major refit between Luck and Holgerson. This same piece was partnered with another story from the largest paper in Wheeling corroborating the story and adding to it.
Which led to questions about the integrity everyone involved.
Yesterday, Mike Casazza, a leader writer for the Daily Mail, the largest afternoon paper in the state and one of the most respected people in the WVU beat, released this story:
quote:WVU refutes reports on Holgorsen, claims there are 'blatant inaccuracies'
by Mike Casazza
Daily Mail sports writer
Advertiser
MORGANTOWN, W.Va. -- After looking into its options, West Virginia University will take no action to refute allegations raised against the football program, athletic department and administration in separate columns published by two state newspapers over the weekend.
WVU sources said Tuesday and again Wednesday the university was reviewing the accusations in a Huntington Herald-Dispatch column from Sunday and an Intelligencer/Wheeling News-Register column from the day before.
WVU was assessing the validity of the claims it believes are false. University officials were also determining whether a response to the publications would be necessary.
A WVU source said Wednesday the university will not take any action, but "knows the Herald-Dispatch story had blatant inaccuracies."
The Herald-Dispatch cited "multiple sources with knowledge of the situation" stating the football team's offensive coordinator and coach-in-waiting Dana Holgorsen had been connected to "at least three and, perhaps, as many as six alcohol-related incidents in the last six months."
The Herald-Dispatch report actually implicates Holgorsen in eight incidents, dating as far back as one in Huntington in 2008, when Holgorsen was working at the University of Houston. It makes two other accusations athletic department and administration officials contest and considered combating.
The column alleges Holgorsen was asked to leave a bar in Huntington after a game October 2008.
A former colleague of Holgorsen's at the University of Houston said Holgorsen chartered back to campus that night and did not stay in Huntington.
The only Houston official to remain in Huntington following that game was an athletic trainer attending to Cougars' wide receiver Patrick Edwards, who broke his leg during the game.
Sources in the column said WVU President James Clements ordered Athletic Director Oliver Luck back from the Big East Conference meetings in Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla., Wednesday.
WVU sources told the Daily Mail Luck had previously planned to be back in town for the rifle team's annual fundraiser at the Mylan Park Community Center that evening. A plane ticket was purchased weeks in advance.
The column also cited a source that said Clements told Luck "that if he read one more article about the coach-in-waiting, it would cost Luck his job."
One WVU representative close to Luck and Clements called that an "outright lie."
An administration official concurred and said it was "not Clements' style."
Since he entered office in the summer of 2009, Clements has preached and practiced letting his university leaders operate their departments without his interference.
Sources said that has not changed and while Clements was kept up to speed on developments after Holgorsen was kicked out of a Cross Lanes Casino on May 18 and is paying closer attention now because the situation necessitates it, he's also aware that increasing his involvement would add unnecessary urgency.
He's instead relying on Luck even more now to manage his department.
Part of WVU's reaction immediately after the Cross Lanes episode was to investigate it, but also look into other rumored or alleged occurrences.
A source said WVU officials have not seen the video footage from Mardi Gras Resort & Casino, but have spoken with those who have and that WVU trusts their review that Holgorsen was guilty of nothing too severe.
WVU officials also called the Wheeling Island resort and casino and asked about an alleged incident before spring football began.
Holgorsen - and many others connected to WVU - attended an annual party in Wheeling that eventually spilled into the casino, but WVU found nothing wrong in conversations with casino management about that party and the behavior of those in attendance. One source said the party included an off-duty police officer to keep an eye on things.
The Daily Mail made attempts at different times on multiple days to speak with employees and management at Wheeling Island and the Glassworks Grill at Oglebay Resort, which was the alleged site of a separate incident. No one - and no documentation - could confirm any incident at either spot.
Both were part of the events listed in the stories in the Herald-Dispatch as well as the Intelligencer/Wheeling News-Register, the latter of which cited "witnesses" as opposed to sources.
The Herald-Dispatch also said Holgorsen was involved in three undefined incidents at the bar in Waterfront Place in Morgantown and that he'd been banned from the bar.
"Absolutely not true," one source said. An athletic department source also denied the ban. Holgorsen has lived in that hotel since late March.
Sources said Holgorsen and others have been made aware of expected behavior and the level of scrutiny going forward, but that there was no punishment dispersed by Luck or Clements and there is no "zero tolerance" standard moving forward.
Holgorsen will attend the WVU Classic today and Friday at Berry Hills Country Club and will not be held from any other Mountaineer Athletic Club function he'd committed to previously.
http://dailymail.com/Sports/WVUSports/201106011015
Moral of the story: don't loving make up poo poo. Landon should pretty much retract his entire story or resign.
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- Mornacale
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I don't see what the big deal would have been. The guy's already directly involved in one of the things to do in WV, he wanted to participate in the other as well.
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So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.
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Mornacale posted:
I don't see what the big deal would have been. The guy's already directly involved in one of the things to do in WV, he wanted to participate in the other as well.
There's that.
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Jun 3, 2011 19:44
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- unhwillneverwin
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That is not an article. That is a loving informercial. Nice to know he doesn't have any journalistic soul.
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Jun 3, 2011 20:58
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The internet has made sourcing a little more complicated than it used to be, but this kind of cracked me up. I just read a retweet by a sportswriter for a story on Sporting News about a writer for DraftExpress "reporting" in a mock draft for Yahoo! Sports that the Timberwolves are exploring possibly trading Michael Beasley if they decide they like Derrick Williams in the draft.
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Jun 6, 2011 19:11
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I know it's Chuck Klosterman, so it's probably Grantland at its ceiling, but man, if the writing is going to be like this: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6625899/three-man-weave , I will take it and be happy.
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Jun 8, 2011 16:55
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The site design is interesting. I like the actual formatting of the articles - the parentheticals are a nice touch if they don't overuse them. The top half of the main page is a pretty big waste of space, though.
Also, people are already starting to crank out hit pieces.
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Jun 8, 2011 17:25
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- leokitty
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What the gently caress why are there no RSS feeds?
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Jun 8, 2011 17:33
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leokitty posted:
What the gently caress why are there no RSS feeds?
Yeah, I was just wondering that myself.
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Timeouts?!
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morestuff posted:
The site design is interesting. I like the actual formatting of the articles - the parentheticals are a nice touch if they don't overuse them. The top half of the main page is a pretty big waste of space, though.
Also, people are already starting to crank out hit pieces.
It's kind of funny that the Atlantic article is asking what the website is about when ESPN already covers the thing it covers, when it's an obviously different style. Long form journalism or storytelling is something that's missing from ESPN.
I read Simmons' opener, I think I like it.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6635763/welcome-grantland
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Jun 8, 2011 17:34
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Grantland looks like a tumblr someone threw together in 3 minutes
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Jun 8, 2011 17:37
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- leokitty
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That's probably intentional. This doesn't sound like a project that had a design or product vision, just an editorial one.
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It's a little odd that Dave Eggers, Malcolm Gladwell, John A. Walsh and Chuck Klosterman all receive equal billing as "consulting editors," but Klosterman is the only one with a featured tab at the top. I guess he'll be doing a lot of writing for the site (which could be a good or bad thing depending on how you feel about him).
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I think at the moment he's the only one that has anything to link to.
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Badfinger posted:
I think at the moment he's the only one that has anything to link to.
That would also make sense.
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Jun 8, 2011 17:58
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- The Goog
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I read and enjoyed Chris Jones' piece on returning to a baseball beat. I'm cautiously optimistic about the site going forward.
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Jun 8, 2011 18:19
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- dr.freeze
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I don't actually find the site that interesting. Is there really a demand for sports/pop-culture writing anyway? If its not done by people with talent like Klosterman it can get annoying very fast.
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Jun 8, 2011 19:09
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- jyrka
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The front page design really is shocking. Simmons probably did it himself.
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Jun 8, 2011 19:13
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- Bizob
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I think I am in love the article about Donnie Walsh leaving because the entire "exclusive" is four sentences, the picture of Walsh at the top make him look like a lemur and the article itself is decent.
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Jun 8, 2011 20:15
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dr.freeze posted:
I don't actually find the site that interesting. Is there really a demand for sports/pop-culture writing anyway? If its not done by people with talent like Klosterman it can get annoying very fast.
I'm cautiously optimistic. I liked what they had up today and most of the names I've heard attached to Grantland, so I'm hoping it stays reasonably good. I wonder if people from other sections of ESPN (like their E-ticket or commentary pages) will end up there.
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Is the content always going to be free?
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dr.freeze posted:
Is the content always going to be free?
Simmons has said that he really wants it to be, but he's also said that nothing's set in stone and the site will be evolving. So for right now I'd say probably, but you never know.
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MorningView posted:
Yeah all the pop culture stuff so far has been bad, but I've liked the sports articles aside from Simmons' typically dumb overreaction to one bad LeBron game.
I thought the HBO article was interesting, even if they didn't really have any insights or draw any conclusions.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:
I really enjoyed this piece myself, and I suspect that when Jones starts writing about baseball instead of about himself writing about baseball...
Good luck with that. Now that he's been released from the boundaries of more conventional journalism and into the solipsism of the new journalism style, there's no more governor on his need to let you know that he is a Very Important Person Who Thinks Thoughts That You Read. You could replace that dude's blog with the "AWESOME COUGARS" photo and the content wouldn't change.
Although he and Simmons are both so thin-skinned that seeing him find a home on Simmons' site is like wrapping a quail egg in tissue paper.
Holy Diverticulitis fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Jun 9, 2011
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Jun 9, 2011 14:36
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What do you do if you're Tommy Craggs and don't get a job at Grantland? Start writing angry words about Grantland Rice.
quote:Why Grantland Rice Sucked
Avatar for Tommy Craggs Tommy Craggs —Why Grantland Rice SuckedGrantland Rice was everything his namesake website should aspire not to be. He was a pandering mythmaker who wrote verse and prose the way Thomas Kinkade paints carriage lanes ("The Hills of Fame still beckon where the Paths of Glory lead …"). Reading him today is not unlike looking at your maiden aunt's collection of Precious Moments figurines. Moths come flying off every word. He was responsible for a lot of the worst pathologies of sportswriting today, and the fact that a major web site now unironically carries his name tells me we've done to Rice what Rice did to so many ballplayers over the years. We've godded up the godmaker.
Everyone remembers the first line of his famous story about the 1924 Notre Dame-Army game — "Outlined against a blue-gray October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again" — but not many people recall what came a paragraph later:
A cyclone can't be snared. It may be surrounded, but somewhere it breaks through to keep on going. When the cyclone starts from South Bend, where the candle lights still gleam through the Indiana sycamores, those in the way must take to storm cellars at top speed. Yesterday the cyclone struck again as Notre Dame beat the Army, 13 to 7, with a set of backfield stars that ripped and crashed through a strong Army defense with more speed and power than the warring cadets could meet.
The Four Horseman now have become a cyclone full of stars in a war of some kind. Metaphors martial, meteorological, and celestial, tumbling on top of one another in the same sentence, and we're only a few words away from "a tank ... with the speed of a motorcycle" and a quartet of football players with "the mixed blood of the tiger and the antelope." Calling this purple prose is to suggest he wasn't using the whole crayon box at once.
The crappy mythopoetics are bad enough, but there's a real consequence to this kind of writing, one Robert Lipsyte sussed out years ago:
The writer who likens a ballplayer to Hercules or Grendel's mother is displaying the ultimate contempt — the ballplayer no longer exists as a person or a performer, but as an object, a piece of matter to be used, in this case, for the furtherance of the sportswriter's career by pandering to the emotional titillation of the reader/fan. Rice populated the press boxes with lesser talents who insisted, like the old master, that they were just sunny fellows who loved kids' games and the jolly apes who played them.
A young Rice once wrote (most of the quotes here come via Charles Fountain's biography, Sportswriter): "Did you ever hear of the battles of Gettysburg, Bull Run or Waterloo? Of how Napoleon crossed the Alps on a mule and Washington the Delaware on a piece of floating ice? Well, all these were mere skirmishes compared with the struggle that took place yesterday at Athletic Park."
Rice was covering a minor-league baseball game.
An older Rice wrote: "Only those who looked upon the spectacle today can know what it means. One might as well attempt to describe the glory of the Grand Canyon or the peak of Mount Everest at dawn."
Rice was covering the loving Olympics.
Four years later, he called the success of American blacks at the Berlin games "Darktown on parade" and wrote: "America will be okay until it runs out of African entries. ... We may have to comb Africa again for some winners." Elsewhere, Joe Louis was "stalking" his prey, a "panther" with the "speed of the jungle, the instinctive speed of the wild." (He once said of Louis, "Sportsmanship should be the very mortar of an athlete but never an entity in itself for conscious display," and a modern reader might hear the same harp music that played over all those preposterous stories about Kevin Durant's humility.) The standard defense here, that Rice was only as bigoted as his time, is probably accurate. But the casual racism was also a rancid variation on his habit of reducing human beings to the front end of a metaphor. Joe Louis was a jungle cat. Jim Crowley was a Biblical plague. Some busher from Selma was Pickett making for Cemetery Ridge. Kobe Bryant is Teen Wolf.
Oh, wait.
Rice was right about a lot of things. He saw Babe Didrikson for the phenomenon she was at a time when his colleagues were more or less calling her a dyke. He said smart things about baseball's reserve clause in 1913 that people didn't start saying en masse until the 1970s ("Every one knows the reserve clause in baseball will not stand the test of American law."). He wrote about Jim Thorpe and amateurism in a way that too few people write about Terrelle Pryor today ("The difference between Thorpe and several dozen others who rank high in the amateur world is that the Redskin was caught with the merchandise."). He could certainly turn a phrase — he called the boxer Jess Willard "a drab outline against a dull gray sky," which for my money is a better bit than the Four Horsemen line. But he was also sports' truest True Believer (during World War I he noted that a German has no recreation to "erect in his soul a foundation of fair play"), and that was his biggest folly. He was the high priest of sportswriting's Church of the Perpetually Innocent, a guy who was always shocked to find that the games he covered didn't deserve all the metaphysical frou-frou and moral uplift he loved to swaddle them in. He knew Ty Cobb as well as anyone but professed horror that baseball players were capable of dumping a World Series. When two of the Black Sox were warmly received after their indictment, Rice wrote: "Anyone who would extend a welcome to crooked ball players ... would endorse burglary and child murder."
Bill Simmons is on the record as saying the name wasn't his choice. The story goes that the site's designer had used "Grantland" as dummy text, Grantland Rice being the only sportswriter he could think of. Eventually the name caught on with certain ESPN executives, the suits who are in the mythmaking business just as surely as Rice ever was. And now the name of mainstream sportswriting's last best hope is an homage to so many of the bad impulses that helped snuff out mainstream sportswriting in the first place. Grantland has to be good, because Grantland Rice was so bad.
Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Jun 9, 2011
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Not to turn this into Grantland: The Thread, but I enjoyed the narrative/stats, chocolate/peanut butter presentation of their article on Dirk. I kind of wish the site had launched earlier in the playoffs.
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I've liked everything on the site so far. It's another place to get good semi-long form journalism and that's pretty great in my book.
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:
I've liked everything on the site so far. It's another place to get good semi-long form journalism and that's pretty great in my book.
Yeah, even the stuff thats not what i agree with is at least obviously a product of effort. Theres a self awareness that is refreshing, and its nice to be able to enjoy the idyllic-ness of sports writing without feeling guilty. The story of the 3 on 5 game high school basketball game is really good in this regard. Its like good Rick Reilly writing. It gets a bookmark from me.
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The Klosterman thing was just kind of boring. He built it up well and I was interested and then it turned out to be just sort of a fun anecdote that he had billed as THE SINGLE GREATEST SPORTING EVENT THAT I, CHARLES KLOSTERMAN, HAVE EVER WITNESSED and by the end I wondered why he spent thousands of words on it. A nice long form piece is great but the content has to be worthy of it.
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I was pretty excited about Grantland because I have always felt long form sports journalism needed a stronger foothold on the internet. So far I am really enjoying most of the content.
The article about sports on a DVR is spot on. I simply cannot watch sports if they are not live. I DVR NBA games all the time but never watch them if it is not live. My dad does a hybrid version of recording, he has it down where he will record the game and then start watching from when the 1st quarter is actually ending* and he has it timed so he can skip commericals and catch up to the game being live with about 8 minutes left. I cannot even do that. I never thought about it, but that point about the commercials upping the drama is spot on. On the rare times I have to DVR a game I go to insane extremes to not find out the score. It is just flat out impossible unless you watch it right when you wake up or something.
*or whenever the correct time is.
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Ribsauce posted:
I was pretty excited about Grantland because I have always felt long form sports journalism needed a stronger foothold on the internet. So far I am really enjoying most of the content.
The article about sports on a DVR is spot on. I simply cannot watch sports if they are not live. I DVR NBA games all the time but never watch them if it is not live. My dad does a hybrid version of recording, he has it down where he will record the game and then start watching from when the 1st quarter is actually ending* and he has it timed so he can skip commericals and catch up to the game being live with about 8 minutes left. I cannot even do that. I never thought about it, but that point about the commercials upping the drama is spot on. On the rare times I have to DVR a game I go to insane extremes to not find out the score. It is just flat out impossible unless you watch it right when you wake up or something.
*or whenever the correct time is.
Even if I don't know the score, knowing the game is already concluded takes away a lot for me. Its like knowing that there is a twist at the end of Fight Club but not knowing the twist. You end up looking for the twist and when it happens its less of a surprise and more like "ah, there we go. that was clever."
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Ribsauce posted:
I was pretty excited about Grantland because I have always felt long form sports journalism needed a stronger foothold on the internet. So far I am really enjoying most of the content.
The article about sports on a DVR is spot on. I simply cannot watch sports if they are not live. I DVR NBA games all the time but never watch them if it is not live. My dad does a hybrid version of recording, he has it down where he will record the game and then start watching from when the 1st quarter is actually ending* and he has it timed so he can skip commericals and catch up to the game being live with about 8 minutes left. I cannot even do that. I never thought about it, but that point about the commercials upping the drama is spot on. On the rare times I have to DVR a game I go to insane extremes to not find out the score. It is just flat out impossible unless you watch it right when you wake up or something.
Everyone stay off Ribsauce's lawn.
Seriously though, the joy of being able to watch two football games in the same span it takes to watch one live, while both games are being played, far outweighs any of the negatives. My wife is a Steelers fan, we watch the start of the game live until the first commercial break, then pause it. Then, if the Raiders are playing, I'll have had that game on the other tuner. Switch to that game, watch it until we catch up to live and the first live commercial, pause, switch back. loving awesome. I do admit, you have to sort of blur your vision to the ticker and do a "la la la, I can't hear you" when they switch for a highlight, but it still works out most of the time.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Everyone stay off Ribsauce's lawn.
Seriously though, the joy of being able to watch two football games in the same span it takes to watch one live, while both games are being played, far outweighs any of the negatives. My wife is a Steelers fan, we watch the start of the game live until the first commercial break, then pause it. Then, if the Raiders are playing, I'll have had that game on the other tuner. Switch to that game, watch it until we catch up to live and the first live commercial, pause, switch back. loving awesome. I do admit, you have to sort of blur your vision to the ticker and do a "la la la, I can't hear you" when they switch for a highlight, but it still works out most of the time.
This is pretty different than recording the event and watching it 5 hours later.
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Jun 9, 2011 17:23
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