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I went autocrossing sunday in my Impreza. I did terrible. I got 8th out of 9 in ST1. In the PM session I let me friend and his girl friend drive the Impreza since it was her first event. In return, he paid for my PM entry and I got to drive his Lotus Elise on racing slicks. That car is amazing and so fast. I got a 57second run with one cone so my scratch time was 3 seconds behind the fastest time of day. This was my first time driving that car so I did really well, especially since I was only a second off my friends time in his own car. He did beat my time in my car by over a second too though.
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Posted my videos from the last AutoX TrueChaos and I were at. Me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfeie8uSt9w (No my shifts aren't crap, the audio shifts back a hair if I trim the video) TrueChaos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQP0gl0Knhc I came first in A-Stock and 13th of ~47 competitors. 4th(!) fastest on street tires. Not bad for a stock Miata.
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Jun 8, 2011 03:39
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Ziploc posted:TrueChaos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQP0gl0Knhc 
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Jun 8, 2011 04:21
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ExecuDork posted:The treasurer of the SSCC autocrosses a Sunfire. He gets it into tripod mode at least once per lap. Speaking of tripodding, I got my car up on three wheels too. 
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Jun 8, 2011 04:48
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destructo posted:
Glad you had a good time! I think that's one of my shots too? You had some good lines, and definitely no fear of the throttle...
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Jun 11, 2011 01:38
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and I expect fully to be on the bottom of whatever I get classed into whenever they kick me out of novice
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blargle posted:So I just found out there's a bunch of autocross events by my house. I've got a 3rd gen WRX that looks completely stock, but has bilsteins/springs, an ALK, swaybars, about a dozen other suspension bushings upgraded, and about 300 whp. Can I land in D Stock or will they shove me into some ridiculous class? I'm in no way a competitive driver, so I'd rather sneak into the slowest class possible. 300hp means you've played with boost, which would land you in ESP... but the ALK kills you. prepared 
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Jun 11, 2011 01:41
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shane86 posted:300hp means you've played with boost, which would land you in ESP... but the ALK kills you. prepared
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Jun 11, 2011 04:20
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Ziploc posted:Speaking of tripodding, I got my car up on three wheels too. I somehow got my WRX on stock suspension with 95,000 miles on 3 wheels. I probably broke it.
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Jun 11, 2011 05:14
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Poked around to see what the ALK actually entails. No way is that *SP legal. 15.8.H.2 lets you modify the lower arms but 15.8.H.4 stipulates original attachment points. If you want to take the 15.8.C allowance claiming they are offset bushings you get killed by the fact there is more metal than OEM. If it is just the caster bump that fixes the lifting issues you're free to put a camber plate in the car and dial it for max caster while staying in *SP. No idea what that looks like on a WRX though.
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Jun 11, 2011 05:29
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The ALK is just the rear bushing in the lower control arm, but the hole in the bushing is offset and you can rotate it to adjust castor. The guy told me not to worry about it anyway, he says nobody cares about bushings and it's just going to be some people farting around in a parking lot.
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Jun 11, 2011 17:06
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There's two types of ALK for the WRX, the bushing, and the full kit. The Bushing pushes into the existing housing that bolts to the chassis, and this is legal for classes as low as ST. usually you'll only get .5 degree out it. not much, but helpful The full kit replaces the housing that bolts to the chassis, and has dramatic differences to the caster of the car, sometimes adding upwards of 2 degrees of caster. this is the one that's a big no-no. 
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Jun 11, 2011 20:53
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Oh, I've got the whiteline kit. I wonder what the Perrin PSRS is like to drive, it says +3 degrees added castor.
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Jun 11, 2011 21:50
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Autocross Saturday was a blast. It was on and off rain (which I love since I use the wet runs to go drifting) so my streets (and street tire bonus) helped me move up all the way to 9th of 50 cars. Not really where a stock Miata should be. My best run: Mazda Miata #102 - PITL #3 2011 Everyone else I recorded that day: Honda Civic #16 - PITL #3 2011 Chevrolet Cobalt SS #30 - PITL #3 2011 Honda Civic Si #55 - PITL #3 2011 Scion xB #34 - PITL #3 2011 Mazda Miata #77 - PITL #3 2011 Mazda3 #6 - PITL #3 2011 Mazda Miata #10 - PITL #3 2011 Ford Mustang Bullitt #88 - PITL #3 2011 Eagle Talon #68 - PITL #3 2011 Mazdaspeed Protege #85 - PITL #3 2011 MG Rotary Roadster #12 - PITL #3 2011 Toyota Corolla AE86 #13 - PITL #3 2011 Mazda Miata #101 - PITL #3 2011 VW Jetta #2 - PITL #3 2011 Lotus Elise #8 - PITL #3 2011 Toyota MR2 #14 - PITL #3 2011 Subaru Impreza STI #57 - PITL #3 2011 Scion tC #28 - PITL #3 2011
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Jun 14, 2011 00:53
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There are so many cameras around each event that I've suggested the series motto be, "If you gently caress up, it's probably on camera." Case and point: https://picasaweb.google.com/clivechan/PITL2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCLq_qdvDw4mODw#5617341184082755586
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Jun 17, 2011 20:21
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shane86 posted:Glad you had a good time! I think that's one of my shots too?  ). Definitely see you around, going to any upcoming events?
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Jun 17, 2011 21:56
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Ziploc posted:There are so many cameras around each event that I've suggested the series motto be, "If you gently caress up, it's probably on camera." Oh those poor course workers, just a cone massacre. I really like this slow-mo video though, do you have any more? It's really neat to see the suspension working its rear end off in this, and to me it looks like the rear sways are waaaaaay too strong. Even when the wheel's off the ground there's barely any suspension travel and then it bounces up and down like crazy.
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Jun 17, 2011 22:35
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Dave Inc. posted:Oh those poor course workers, just a cone massacre. I love the one cone sliding along in the back but never actually tipping over.
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Jun 18, 2011 00:35
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Ziploc posted:There are so many cameras around each event that I've suggested the series motto be, "If you gently caress up, it's probably on camera."
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Jun 18, 2011 01:12
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destructo posted:Whoa! Yep, it's one of yours (thanks for the pictures, by the way I'll be at all the MOWOG events, cheif of timing and all.. I haven't decided if i want to run the PCA/COM event next weekend or not.
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Jun 18, 2011 16:17
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ExecuDork posted:I was the only person with a camera (besides cell phones) at the last two events I went to. There were a couple of GoPros, and I have a crappy ebay camcorder bolted to my parcel shelf, but otherwise almost nobody takes any pictures, either stills or video. That's kinda sad really.. Our local events get usually 2-3 amateur photographers snapping away (myself included). Here's a few of my favorites from last weekend's MOWOG 3 event that i shot:      only minimal color and exposure correction with photoshop, the rest are in the album: http://bruteforcephoto.com/index.php/2011/mowog_3 shane86 fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Jun 21, 2011 |
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Jun 18, 2011 16:26
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shane86 posted:
Holy poo poo that M3 is getting some airtime. Maybe he needs to invest in a stiffer front sway? That's ridiculous.
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Beach Bum posted:Holy poo poo that M3 is getting some airtime. Maybe he needs to invest in a stiffer front sway? That's ridiculous. E36's pull the inside front off the ground all the time at autocross events. I've got a picture somewhere way back in this thread of mine pulling the inside front up a couple inches with street tires, not even R compounds. The Silver car in the above picture is BSP, so I'm sure he's running R comps, probably Hoosiers, so he probably gets air in the front all over the place.
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The Locator posted:E36's pull the inside front off the ground all the time at autocross events. I used to drive one myself, so I know they tend to float, but that's a ton of air. It looks to me like the rear would be coming up too.
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Jun 18, 2011 20:26
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I wish I knew where the photo is, I'm sure i can find it later... a couple of guys locally went down to, I think Peru national tour, a couple years back in a DSP E36 BMW. Neal Tovsen drove the hell out of that thing, and put it up on two wheels.. there's a picture with at least a foot between the lowest wheel and the ground. They nicknamed the maneuver "Bicycling" That particular M3 pictured though... in that section it's fairly uphill. one of the sites we use is a driver's training course with all kinds of elevation, and even a little banking. EDIT: Found it!  Not my photo (wish it was). Link: https://picasaweb.google.com/Simi.Ritch/2009PeruNationalTourJuly45th#5355353016250298994 shane86 fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Jun 18, 2011 |
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Ziploc posted:There are so many cameras around each event that I've suggested the series motto be, "If you gently caress up, it's probably on camera."
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Jun 18, 2011 21:59
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Oh hell yes! Robert Lewis of Dixie Region REPRESENT!!! This car is SO MUCH FUN to ride in.
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Jun 18, 2011 23:55
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ENVY! I've seen this beast at a few national events over the past few years... this thing is AWESOME!
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Dave Inc. posted:I really like this slow-mo video though, do you have any more? It's really neat to see the suspension working its rear end off in this, and to me it looks like the rear sways are waaaaaay too strong. Even when the wheel's off the ground there's barely any suspension travel and then it bounces up and down like crazy. I have a TON. A friend and I have identical Casio FC100s which do half decent slow motion. I've been wondering what to do with all the video. I'll be working on some 'best of slow-mo' videos in the next little while. Lots of hanging wheels, flying cones, lockups, drifts, burnouts. The good stuff. I'll whore it out again but, this video has a bit of slow-mo in the beginning and some a bit toward the end: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf9FnUigU-w&hd=1 I did a slow motion video of an entire onboard run staring at me while I drove. It's really long but it's amazing to watching my eyes flip from cone to cone and to see how my hands are working in slow motion. Ziploc fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Jun 19, 2011 |
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Got to go out into the blazing Arizona sun for another autocross meet. It was a relatively plane-jane course but still fun even though I chickened out on the last slalom the entire day. Largest novice turnout we had in months as well! Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78nf-TFwCig
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Vids from today in El Paso. I had a pretty poor showing today. I finally beat the guy I'd been gunning for all season last event, and today he destroys me. But I just got a GoPro to play with, so have some videos. Tire Cam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVkONy_PIyA Roof Cam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFoqelR-3WE In-car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bec-ipVeJos It's a two day event, so there's more tomorrow. mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jun 26, 2011 |
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Tire Deformation Cam. I really wish I had bigger rims than stock... In the latter half after the sweeping U-turn, you can really see the tires deform as the back end gets loose. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR3XIArR8RY
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mlmp08 posted:I somehow got my WRX on stock suspension with 95,000 miles on 3 wheels. I probably broke it. I drove my first autocross today in my MK2 Golf with swaybars, shocks, and tires and was told that I had it on 3 wheels around every turn. I hope someone got a picture.
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chem42 posted:I drove my first autocross today in my MK2 Golf with swaybars, shocks, and tires and was told that I had it on 3 wheels around every turn. I hope someone got a picture. Lightweight boxy cars tend to do that. It's pretty rare that my WRX does that, and is usually a sign that I was about to lose it, but somehow didn't. There was a stock, save tires, diesel Golf MK V that came down for one of our events and he three-wheeled it quite a bit and put down very impressive times.
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mlmp08 posted:Tire Deformation Cam. I really wish I had bigger rims than stock... mlmp08 posted:Lightweight boxy cars tend to do that. Light ain't got nothing to do about it 
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nm posted:I wish I'd been able to find 8in wide SSRs instead of my 7.5s, I suspect my tires do this too. Mine are 16x6.5 with 225s on them. It leads to bulging and crazy deformation. 
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Is there any reason why I shouldn't grab my helmet and go autocross my '11 Honda Insight? I mean, I know it is slow as hell, but I miss autocrossing. I figured with a CVT, electric steering, and dime-thin fuel-saver tires it might actually be fun. Car is pretty light, I'd imagine lighter than the mkIV VWs I used to run...
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mlmp08 posted:Mine are 16x6.5 with 225s on them. It leads to bulging and crazy deformation.
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Disciple of Pain posted:Is there any reason why I shouldn't grab my helmet and go autocross my '11 Honda Insight? I mean, I know it is slow as hell, but I miss autocrossing. I figured with a CVT, electric steering, and dime-thin fuel-saver tires it might actually be fun. Car is pretty light, I'd imagine lighter than the mkIV VWs I used to run... Why the hell not? There was a couple co-driving an early 2000 Accord sedan at the autocross I went to today. It was slow as molasses, but they managed to lock the brakes up a few times and generally do silly things.
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I believe hybrids are blanket banned by SCCA. Might want to double check that.
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Blanket Banned? really? Locally we had some parents of a regular start playing with their 2nd gen prius... no problems at all. That being said, we're not an SCCA club, so we do carry different insurance and provisional rules. Then they got hooked and bought a Z4 Check with your local region.. but i don't see any reason they'd have a problem with it.
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