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Double bagel. Double. Bagel. Double. Bagel. Who the gently caress is this mental home escapee?
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 00:32 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 02:28 |
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agreed, double-bagels out
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 00:40 |
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double-bagel game
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 01:07 |
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Minutemen - Double Bagels on the Dime
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 01:12 |
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in for a penny in for a pound:samefuckingyank posted:
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 03:14 |
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get this guy an account
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 03:21 |
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What exactly does this nutbag want to change? So far as I can tell that entire rant didn't suggest a single concrete difference. It was all 'gently caress fifa' and 'american rules will be better!'
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 03:41 |
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wayth posted:What exactly does this nutbag want to change? So far as I can tell that entire rant didn't suggest a single concrete difference. It was all 'gently caress fifa' and 'american rules will be better!' He mentioned college soccer which has no injury time, unlimited substitutions, and you're only allowed to have a draw after you've played a golden goal overtime of two 10 minute halves. Also they might have quarters instead of halves but I'm not sure.
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 03:46 |
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Go back to the original MLS rules they worked so well....
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 03:52 |
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In a perverse way, I admire his dedication to being completely and utterly wrong about everything ever.Couch posted:Go back to the original MLS rules they worked so well.... Names too! "It's the Burn! It's the Mutiny! Sunday on ABC!"
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 03:54 |
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sameyank posted:Bringing a Competing World Cup to the U.S. Every 4 Years
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 03:59 |
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Should have bolded this too:quote:Investors should determine if there is a viable alternative within the sports spectator marketplace that can transcend the status quo and become a lasting entity with enduring entertainment value.
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 07:24 |
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Seriously, someone buy him an account.
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 09:47 |
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I am OK posted:Should have bolded this too: There's just so much to bold. Personally I would've bolded 'double-bagel' but to each their own.
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 13:04 |
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quote:Sanchez deal looks done then (again) cant say I'm too disapointed being one of the best players in Serie A is like being one of the nicest people in Al Qaeda, Much rather us stick a big bid in for Samir Nasri great young player, prem proven and would weaken one of our rival no end.
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 13:44 |
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Bacon of the Sea posted:Seriously, someone buy him an account. Only if it's called Double Bagels though.
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# ? Jun 21, 2011 15:19 |
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Voluspa posted:Most will play for meager salaries to play the sport of their dreams. This doesn't mean that they shouldn't be respected. Salaries will always be paid according to supply and demand.
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# ? Jun 22, 2011 01:58 |
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If we were to combine the top ten sides from MLS in the current standing into the SPL minus St. Mirren and Hamilton to form an imaginary one table league I would see it playing out something like this. 1. Rangers 2. Celtic 3. Hearts 4. LA Galaxy 5. Dundee United 6. FC Dallas 7. NY Red Bulls 8. Kilmarnock 9. Seattle Sounder 10. Philadelphia Union 11. Motherwell 12. Columbus Crew 13. Iverness 14. Aberdeen 15. Real Salt Lake 16. Colorado 17. St. Johnstone 18. Hibernian 19. Houston 20. San Jose Okay after doing that I'll concede I probably have overvalued Hibs and St. Johnstone and maybe Aberdeen, Iverness, and Motherwell in comparison to the top end of MLS but the vast majority of MLS sides would be strongly pressed to ever come away with positive decisions against the top five clubs in the SPL Edit: I am not pushing MLS over SPL, I just don't know what to make of this post.
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# ? Jun 22, 2011 20:01 |
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twobadleagues.jpg
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# ? Jun 22, 2011 21:36 |
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I should add that the league table I posted came out of an awesome post about why Maurice Edu should start over Michael Bradley for the USMNT. To sum it up, Maurice Edu should start because he has played in the Champions League and has a higher goal.com match rating average than Michael Bradley.
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# ? Jun 22, 2011 22:31 |
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wayth posted:What exactly does this nutbag want to change? So far as I can tell that entire rant didn't suggest a single concrete difference. It was all 'gently caress fifa' and 'american rules will be better!' They have halves but there is no extra time. Scoreboard has a clock and they only stop it for bad injuries. Oh and unlimited subs. That's the biggest difference, there's nothing else that I can think of having watched about 10 of my school's girls team
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# ? Jun 22, 2011 23:19 |
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ayb posted:Oh and unlimited subs.
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# ? Jun 22, 2011 23:39 |
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Unlimited subs would result in bringing on a specialist team for corners etc.
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 01:13 |
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Ewar Woowar posted:Unlimited subs would result in bringing on a specialist team for corners etc. I would be all for subbing on Delap for throws then yanking him off for open play.
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 01:22 |
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The unlimited subs thing also includes a clause that you can't go back on in the same half when you got subbed off.
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 07:09 |
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Imagine a game where a team goes up for a corner/free kick, and then upon losing the ball all of their players do whatever they can to cause a stoppage so they can sub off for some defensive players. It would be like when a goalie attempts and misses a penalty but x11.
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 07:14 |
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Except you can still only name an 18 in college soccer so they usually only have one 'specialist' if at all
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 07:19 |
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to anyone that cares, the excerpts i posted are from http://www.americanizesoccer.com
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 08:59 |
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 11:18 |
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Bacon of the Sea posted:Well?
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 11:39 |
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It's from a Sunderland message board. They go on to argue that blacks aren't as evolved as whites and that calling people paki is no more racist than calling someone brit.
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 12:21 |
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That's mackems for you I'm afraid. They're animals.
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 12:35 |
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I thought they were dog fuckers not actual animals
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 12:39 |
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Bacon of the Sea posted:It's from a Sunderland message board. They go on to argue that blacks aren't as evolved as whites and that calling people paki is no more racist than calling someone brit. I just dug up that thread and none of this is true, imagine that. That said the SMB is a shithole populated by absolute mongs and Ive seen worse stuff than that said on there.
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 13:59 |
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The most disturbing aspect of Ken Bates’ impact at Leeds United has been his effect on us, the fans. We’ve changed; or rather, he has changed us. The most fundamental way this change expresses itself is in the way that we express ourselves – it’s right there, in the way we talk about Leeds United. Ken Bates has stolen our narrative of ourselves; he has blunted our desire to write our own history, to give vocal form to what we want from Leeds United Football Club. It’s not a surprising result, and certainly not an accidental one, given the time and emphasis put into Bates’ programme notes, and his weekly radio addresses, with edited highlights printed on the official site; long before his Leeds tenure, Bates programme notes at Oldham and Chelsea came to be seen as a bizarre sort of institution. Bates’ regular soapboxing is often dismissed as an airing for his ego, but there’s more to it than that. Even if you don’t share his opinions, or if you try to ignore his often ugly oratorial style, you can’t pretend they aren’t there. You pick up on words and phrases and tones, and you hear them from the fans around you; and the focus of conversation on a match day becomes less about whether Paynter is starting ahead of Somma, but whether the Norwegian Supporters Club should pay up for memberships and how the Pavilion is doing. Languages change: they evolve, new words are formed, old ones become more prominent; people need different words to talk about things they haven’t spoken of before. And language has changed at Leeds United. In our attempts to understand what Ken Bates is doing at our football club, the language of football, of Leeds United, has been replaced by the language of Ken Bates. And the language of Ken Bates is not the language of a football fan, but of a property developer. And so, when an offer is made for our goalkeeper, the focus of the fans is not on the Leeds United question of whether a sale will be good for our team, but on the Batesian question of whether it represents “good business sense.” Fans talk about the balance of a contract, on freeing up wages, whether £1m now is a fair price when the player can leave for free in a year; and not about whether the team will be improved. A football team at its core is eleven players, and yet rather than have a footballer in the number one shirt, it makes “good business sense,” it’s a “good deal going forward,” to have a million quid instead. It’s better to have the money than to have the player. That’s not football fans talking; that’s Ken Bates. The acceptance of the Kasper Schmeichel sale – assuming it happens – is the acceptance that Leeds United are now a selling club. That’s the logical conclusion of the idea that a transfer before Schmeichel’s contract runs out is “good business sense.” It follows that every player at the club has a price related to the remaining length of their contract, that each one has a tipping point at which the sold sticker is slapped across them. We can find a better keeper than Schmeichel, sure, but can we find better players to replace Snodgrass and Gradel when it becomes “good business sense” to sell them? Leeds United fans never used to think like this, and that was not just because we were arrogant sods; it was before Ken Bates convinced us that “good business sense” is more important than football, that money is better for the club than players. Bates has used the spectre of Ridsdale to get us all scared, essentially. It’s how he’s managed to spend £7m on the East Stand development this close season. Through careful repetition – never backed up by proof – that “brick by brick” he’s “building” the club up, Bates has managed to convince the fans that executive boxes, shops, and eventually a hotel will lead directly to success on the pitch. And we repeat it to each other, and it replaces the football, and because we’re all saying it, we all think it’s true. Leeds fans used to talk about football, but now we talk about “maximising long term revenue streams,” “expanding our commercial interests,” about “safe investment in a guaranteed return.” Leeds fans now think that to spend £7m on a football player would be a momentous risk and a return to the spend-spend-spend era of Ridsdale; but that to spend £7m on corporate facilities is sound business thinking in the long term. Well, it’s very long term that we’re talking: the twenty-two new East Stand executive boxes are priced at £28,500(+VAT) per season; if they are all sold every season at that price, it will take eleven years to make £7m back. And that’s assuming they all sell; in Bates’ last years at Chelsea, Stamford Bridge was notorious for the number of executive boxes that were unsold and unused. By listening to Ken Bates about the soundness of the commercial infrastructure he’s building, we’ve not just bought into long-term thinking, we’ve bought into never-never thinking. Yet somehow we believe that executive boxes today will mean more money for players tomorrow; that by waiting for the profits to show from the corporate side, we’ll be on a surer footing to spend on the football side. Well, if we can wait a decade, I suppose that’s alright. It’s a triumph of fearmongering; it’s the triumph of the Ken Bates mantra. “Ridsdale, Ridsdale, Ridsdale; we must never repeat the mistakes of the past.” Out of our fear of having the last decade happen to us again, we’ve allowed Bates to convince us that Leeds United is not a football club anymore. Football clubs buy and sell players, and train them up through youth teams, in order that the eleven on the pitch will beat the other eleven on the pitch. But now we’re too scared to do it. We’re too frightened to buy a player in case it’s another Seth Johnson; we’re too fearful of the bottom line to turn down bids from our rivals. We won’t risk anything for football anymore; we’ve been told that too much risk is involved in getting Leeds United to compete on the pitch; that bricks and mortar and conference suites and hotels are somehow the path to success for a football club; we’ve been told it, and we’ve believed it. I’m as involved as anyone. What I’d really like to do in this blog and in The Square Ball magazine is write wanky prose poems about Robert Snodgrass going to sleep and Luciano Becchio pretending to be Maradona. That’s where the fun is. Instead I’ve ended up writing stuff like this, where in order to point out where I feel Bates is destroying Leeds United I get dragged into his arena, forced into using his language, to stop talking about football and about Leeds United and to talk about executive boxes and corporate fine-dining instead. These aren’t the stories I want to write about Leeds United Football Club; these aren’t the words I want to be using. I long for the day when we can stop printing the transcripts of the Yorkshire Radio interviews on TSB; but Bates will have to stop using them to slag off and misinform Leeds United supporters first. Bates’ mantra has relied on convincing Leeds fans that we aren’t going to repeat the mistakes of the past, that Ken Bates isn’t Peter Ridsdale, that ground improvements are ‘safer’ than team improvements. But at least Peter Ridsdale’s greatest mistakes were borne of a pursuit of football glory, were supposed to bring about success on the pitch, to keep us in the Champions League: ‘Living The Dream’ has become an ugly phrase to Leeds fans, but wasn’t it exactly the dream of every football club – to be as good at football as possible? Whose dream is it, precisely, to have the best executive catering arm of the second division, to have the highest room occupancy rates in the Football League? Do any fans long for the day when they’ll see a Leeds United hotel manager lift an award for corporate hospitality? We as Leeds fans need to stop kidding ourselves that long-term revenue streams and diversification of property portfolios are what we want at our football club. We need to stop believing the lie that pursuit of football success will always end up the way it did with Ridsdale. We need to stop thinking about our football players in terms of debit and credit. We need to stop believing that the core business of a football club should be corporate hospitality. We need to admit that, due to Ken Bates’ influence, we’ve stopped talking about Leeds United as a football club; and we need to ask ourselves just what stories we want to tell each other about our football club in the future. We need to take control of our club’s narrative again; we need to make the story of Leeds United our story again, not the story according to Ken Bates. Take a look at a photo of Gordon Strachan with the League Championship trophy; of Billy Bremner lifting the FA Cup. Moments like that give our football club it’s whole reason to exist; those are the stories we used to have at our football club. That’s what we should talk about when we talk about Leeds United.
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 14:01 |
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What's bad about that post?
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 14:52 |
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ibroxmassive posted:What's bad about that post? Not a lot, I just love the ridiculous pomposity of it. Kind of like when Sid Lowe writes a thing and it's completely groan-inducingly wanky and pretentious but at the same time makes a fair point. It's like if John Galt was a Leeds fan
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 14:58 |
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SteadfastMeat posted:Not a lot, I just love the ridiculous pomposity of it. Kind of like when Sid Lowe writes a thing and it's completely groan-inducingly wanky and pretentious but at the same time makes a fair point. It's like if John Galt was a Leeds fan It is quite pompous but if it's going out in a fan magazine I can understand why he has the tone he does, and there are some real gems in there; quote:Whose dream is it, precisely, to have the best executive catering arm of the second division, to have the highest room occupancy rates in the Football League? Do any fans long for the day when they’ll see a Leeds United hotel manager lift an award for corporate hospitality? Just for the idea of a bunch of fans kitted out standing at the back cheering.
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 15:04 |
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http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/20110624/hearts-statement_2241384_2381659THE OFFICIAL HEART OF MIDLOTHIAN F.C. WEBSITE posted:The Hearts Board of Directors has issued the following statement in relation to outside influences on players and the club.
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HOT BRITISH SEX posted:http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/20110624/hearts-statement_2241384_2381659
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