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SVU Fan
Mar 5, 2008

I'm gay for Christopher Meloni
Ohhh sorry, I misinterpreted your post and thought about the keyboard for some reason. It sounds like you're not too familiar with guitar, but it's not too hard of a thing to do. Alls he is doing is alternate picking really fast (up-down-up-down-up-down is alternate picking) and hammering on and pulling off the notes, as opposed to picking each one. As for doing that with midi, you might be able to get something close with Guitar Pro by simulating the hammer ons and pull offs, but I dunno what to tell ya about Ableton, as I've never used it.

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That Dang Dad
Apr 23, 2003

Well I am
over-fucking-whelmed...
Young Orc

SVU Fan posted:

Ohhh sorry, I misinterpreted your post and thought about the keyboard for some reason. It sounds like you're not too familiar with guitar, but it's not too hard of a thing to do. Alls he is doing is alternate picking really fast (up-down-up-down-up-down is alternate picking) and hammering on and pulling off the notes, as opposed to picking each one.

The picking I could see so then it's the hammering part that is giving me troubles in recreating.

Believe it or not, the arpeggio suggestion actually helped me get a more realistic sounding chugga-chugg (sticking with it :colbert: ) with some of these guitar instruments so I'm on the path to what I was looking for actually. So thanks! :)

Longtiem
Feb 9, 2010
http://soundcloud.com/dillonfrancis/toddla-t-take-it-back-dillon
right about 1:30 that synth is so amazing and full and just thick
the second one comes in around 3:30.

Also, more advice for whoever was looking for dutch house synth advice there are a lot of simple videos on youtube that can get you started. Most of em seem to be FL studio and sylenth but the synth work is the same.

magnificent7
Sep 22, 2005

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Joe Bonamassa live at Royal Albert Hall is on PBS right now. Holy christ - how the gently caress does he get that tone? I've seen youtube vids with him talking about his pedals and amps but GYAT drat. There's this real beautiful clarity to his sound. I'm guessing more than half of a tone like that probably comes from practicing a gently caress-ton. Learn to control the note before it ever gets to the pedals and the amps.

the tingler
Jul 15, 2009

magnificent7 posted:

Joe Bonamassa live at Royal Albert Hall is on PBS right now. Holy christ - how the gently caress does he get that tone? I've seen youtube vids with him talking about his pedals and amps but GYAT drat. There's this real beautiful clarity to his sound. I'm guessing more than half of a tone like that probably comes from practicing a gently caress-ton. Learn to control the note before it ever gets to the pedals and the amps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5GMTfY6yoc

Doesn't look very complicated, just really nice amps and like you said, practice and control. Like he says in the video, all his effects are ones you can buy at Guitar Center, except the Fuzz Face, but there are more Fuzz Face clones out there than you can shake a stick at.


I'm still in the dark about this Los Lobos tune. It sounds like a compressor and a Big Muff, but I've never gotten a sound as good as that out of a big muff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvEKdIoSnd8&feature=player_embedded

Amperor
Oct 27, 2010


First, the sound in question:
From Bag Raiders track Golden Wings, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSkLl7vuOJA starts at 1:34


I have some background in linguistics, and this sound immediately reminded me of what we called the "creaky voice", which was made when the vocal cords vibrated very slowly, like 20-50hz. I've tried low frequency square waves using the "fixed" option on an oscillator in Ableton's Operator, which I then recorded and resampled into Simpler, but it doesn't sound quite right, and of course when I transpose it into higher registers it loses its interesting creakiness.

I guess my main problem here is that it seems like the sound is based on very low frequencies, but to get anything that sounds tonal you need to increase the frequency and thus lose the sound. Am I misunderstanding something? Any light that can be shed on this would be most appreciated.

I'm going to keep sampling and resampling this same sound to see if that helps in the meantime.

makes a cool effect with a filter sweep though!

eta: I've seen some similar sounds described as having gone though a granulizer, but I'm not sure I have access to one...there's a pluggo in Max called "Granular to go", but I can't get anything that sounds even remotely like this using that. I have access to Ableton, Max for Live, and Massive.

Amperor fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Jun 12, 2011

breaks
May 12, 2001

The basic sound is a low, narrow pulse run through a highpass and distortion. Look at this screenshot of Massive. It's pretty far from being that exact sound, but it's the same general kind of deal. I don't know that the distortions built into Massive are going to get you to exactly where that one is at.

(I updated the screenshot with one that's closer, the sine shaper goes before the amp)

breaks fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Jun 12, 2011

deputamadre
Nov 29, 2008
so I'm trying to make a flute sound like in this track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw9ZuNH6-GU#t=02m45s

I've tried layering and detuning sines, triangles and sawtooths but I can't get it to sound as "thick" and "round" - basically I can't get it to sound like a flute! What am I doing wrong?

Amperor
Oct 27, 2010


deputamadre posted:

so I'm trying to make a flute sound like in this track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw9ZuNH6-GU#t=02m45s

I've tried layering and detuning sines, triangles and sawtooths but I can't get it to sound as "thick" and "round" - basically I can't get it to sound like a flute! What am I doing wrong?

Have you tried adding an oscillator with some white noise into the mix? I think most wind instruments should have at least a little in them, but I could be wrong.

breaks: thanks for that screenshot. I'll play around with it once I get home from work!

Leninboarrir
May 11, 2006

stupid monster
I know this is a very basic sound, but I'm trying to cover this song and I want to get the exact bass sound.

LCD Soundsystem-Tribulations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIH_CV1tMpw

Starts at 0:03 and continues throughout.

I have the .VST TAL-Bassline (a Roland SH-101 emulator) that comes to very close to it, with these settings:



If anyone knows of a .vst that can emulate it perfectly or how I can change my settings, let me know. Thanks!

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

breaks posted:

The basic sound is a low, narrow pulse run through a highpass and distortion. Look at this screenshot of Massive. It's pretty far from being that exact sound, but it's the same general kind of deal. I don't know that the distortions built into Massive are going to get you to exactly where that one is at.

(I updated the screenshot with one that's closer, the sine shaper goes before the amp)

Actually, I'm tempted to say an easier route might be:


(I don't think it's an actual 303 in that song, because the square sounds too much like an actual square wave to be a real 303, but I wouldn't be shocked if that bassline came from one of the various near-303 clones put out over the past couple decades, run through a fuzz pedal. I came up with a pretty close, though not quite perfect copy of that tone on my X0Xbox + overdriving the poo poo outta the preamp on my mixer desk just now. The square wave on mine is just way too not-a-narrow-pulse-and-not-actually-square to nail it all the way, which is pretty par for the course for the worst excuse for a square wave ever built into a synth. It's also a very 303-ish synthline as well, so I'm wondering if maybe the creators of that song were deliberately trying to emulate Acid using a non-303.)

shyguise
Jul 13, 2009
Trying to figure out this bass at 1:04. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYBn7canZWg seems to be a heavy layer of square waves with distortion and a heavy sine sub but I cant replicate its depth for the life of me.

KaosPV
Sep 25, 2007
Mediterranean schizo
There's this sound which I absolutely love, straight out of P-funk (at least in my mind), and I would love to pull it off in a synth, but I'm still learning how to build sounds.


You can listen to the sound start at 2:09 at this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmOArLdg9d4



It keeps repeating the same couple of notes along the track.


Also, somewhat similar, at 0:43 here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njWIE4bje00




Is it a moog synth or what?


Also, would love to recreate the chord stab with the pitch wiggle from the second video, but I don't know if that's too much to ask Embarassed

GET MY BELT SON
Sep 26, 2007

I'm trying to recreate the low bassy note from this Donato Dozzy track. Anybody got any ideas? It's the one that sounds like a space bullfrog.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53048/time%20out%20beat.wav

The Doo Do Chasers
Dec 27, 2008

:fella:Life is overwhelming:fella:
Are there good resources for programming and emulating organ sounds? I've found tons for Hammond/tonewheel organs but I'd like to get more a bit more on depth with it. I've got an Akai S2000 so I've got the ability to layer tons of waveforms. My main goal is to get something close to a Farfisa tone.

Behold! A Elk!
May 12, 2009
I am still in the early stages of learning how to use a synth. I have an akai miniak and I want to make something that sounds similar to the orchestra hit in Yes' "Owner of a Lonely Heart" is it possible to do or would I need a sampler. Does anyone have a recipe, or maybe just some hints to lead me in the right direction. I tried google but everything I found talked about sampling which my synth can't do.

The Doo Do Chasers
Dec 27, 2008

:fella:Life is overwhelming:fella:
Yeah it's a sample. You can make some great string sounds on a subtractive synth but just not that one.

Behold! A Elk!
May 12, 2009
Well dang. Guess I have to save up for a sampler. I thought it would be possible after figuring out how to make something that sounded like a record scratch.

Ben and Stew
Mar 31, 2006

Woah!
That sound is called an Orchestra Hit, may make your search easier

The Doo Do Chasers
Dec 27, 2008

:fella:Life is overwhelming:fella:

Behold! A Elk! posted:

Well dang. Guess I have to save up for a sampler. I thought it would be possible after figuring out how to make something that sounded like a record scratch.

You're in luck, hardware samplers are usually very cheap. I got mine for $100, it's a bit confusing and has a teeny screen, but it's quite capable. I think the owner of a lonely heart sample is froma Kool & the Gang song. Anlittle google search could probably get you the song title. Making your own sames are fun even if theyve been used tons of times.

hooptyjr
Dec 22, 2010

The future is in the past!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjPF4boDadM

@1:10

I can not achieve this warm bass that's present in this section of the song. I'm guessing it's just a sine bass? Every sine bass I dial in doesn't match the smoothness of the one I hear in this song and in my head. Any tips?

zeldadude
Nov 24, 2004

OH SNAP!
anyone help me out a bit with the main synth in this tune?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svW2KL-9KQI
go anywhere in the middle and you'll hear it

Horrido
Mar 26, 2010

zeldadude posted:

anyone help me out a bit with the main synth in this tune?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svW2KL-9KQI
go anywhere in the middle and you'll hear it

I had a similar sound with a saw/square and a lo-pass, filter chained to a lfo.

I'm not sure, tho, and my laptop shat himself so i can't check.

skypunk
Apr 26, 2007

MY SMILE IS GONE FOR GOOD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfDTkxV-X2w&feature=related

Julian Casablancas' vocals. Obviously, gritting up your voice and growling when necessary, but when just crooning I want to get that dirt-nasty "recorded through a tube-based harmonica amp" sound. Is there just an FTT filter on the vocal track or something?

Meursault Horny
Sep 9, 2003

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Apr02/articles/gordonraphael.asp

this has a bunch of stuff in it, I have it bookmarked from a long time ago

One of the most distinctive features of Is This It is the sound of Julian Casablancas' vocals, which are curiously distorted and compressed from beginning to end. "There were two techniques," explains Gordon. "One consisted of an Audio-Technica 4033A mic going through the Avalon 737, and I would usually work with Julian for an hour just to get the voice tone. Until the final result was achieved he would be extremely suspicious and unhappy, and invariably the final result would have some kind of messiness or not-quite-rightness about it, at which point he would smile and say, 'This is great.' So, that was one technique, and then the second technique was something that Julian had discovered on his own at home while making the demos. He liked to sing through his Peavey practice amp, which is about eight inches tall, and I'd mike that with a Neumann TLM103, so he'd still be singing into the Audio-Technica (Julian found the Neumann distasteful!), but I'd be Neumanning it in order to get the exact details of what this horrible little amp sounded like. He wanted it lovely, but not too lovely. He would always say things like, 'This sound needs to have its tie loosened.' Those were the kind of technical descriptions I would get every day. On the EP, two of the tracks have live vocals, whereas on the album he knew from the beginning that he wanted to be in the control room with me while they were tracking, just concentrating on that and leaving the vocals for later. The band played to a click track."

skypunk
Apr 26, 2007

MY SMILE IS GONE FOR GOOD!
You're my new best friend. I thought I was onto something with the tiny amp - I've tried just with an SM58 through this old bass amp with a half-blown speaker. Closest I've come yet.

Also, hot drat I love Jules' voice but that must've been a nightmare for that engineer.

BUTTERWORBS
Oct 16, 2002


Holy poo poo, I've always been fascinated by the sound of that record but never thought to look up anything about it. Thanks so much for that link, man.

JamesKPolk
Apr 9, 2009

How do I make the kind of hollow/metallic "oooo" that comes in at like 15 seconds? Especially the movement from high to low. I thought a wavetable with som modulation might be it, and maybe it is, but nothing in Massive sounds right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wnARfnBdNg

Cobweb Heart
Mar 31, 2010

I need you to wear this. I need you to wear this all the time. It's office policy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncIoh2CP3Lc

I've been wondering how to do the sound that starts at 6:38, then layers at 6:46. I have a VST that emulates the synth used here, and it's really fun to play around with, but it's a bit intimidating to go about getting the same sound as in the video. If anyone knows anything about ESQ 1 programming, that'd be great. :)

Crazy C
Dec 3, 2010
STOP LEECHING IMAGES, DICKFACE
Could anyone perhaps assist in creating the bassline in this track on Reason 4?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbeLhsa1l2c

Rakshas
Jun 7, 2003
Oompa Loompa Extraordinarie
How is the lead synth sound created on this track? It sounds like one thick as gently caress note gliding around. It can be heard at around :34 and extends for the duration of the track mostly.

http://soundcloud.com/savoyband/free-agent-original-mix

Found it: It's the Ben Benassi bass and this Irish bloke explains it well
http://www.musictechtutorials.com/ableton-how-to-make-the-benny-benassi-bass-sound/

Ugh still not getting the cleanness of the original.

Rakshas fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Aug 28, 2011

Computer Jones
Jun 22, 2005

Rakshas posted:

How is the lead synth sound created on this track? It sounds like one thick as gently caress note gliding around. It can be heard at around :34 and extends for the duration of the track mostly.

http://soundcloud.com/savoyband/free-agent-original-mix

Found it: It's the Ben Benassi bass

Nah, it's actually a distorted acid line (Roland TB-303 or similar, although these horribly expensive so perhaps look into Audiorealism Bassline or D16 Phoscyon). Welcome to the world of acid! :pcgaming:

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

Computer Jones posted:

(Roland TB-303, although these horribly expensive so get a X0Xbox instead). Welcome to the world of acid! :pcgaming:

Rakshas
Jun 7, 2003
Oompa Loompa Extraordinarie

Computer Jones posted:

Welcome to the world of acid! :pcgaming:

Haha will look into that, though I really can't afford to buy another twiddly knob thingy. Also, I've probably heard this sound a million times in passing but only now is it resonating with me.

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003

Rakshas posted:

resonating

Where's that Duck Hunt Dog when you need him.

Computer Jones
Jun 22, 2005

wayfinder posted:

Where's that Duck Hunt Dog when you need him.

:laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lEFLe9ii24

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals

QPZIL posted:

I'm not sure what's going on in this track (Wolves in the Throne Room - Dia Artio), but I absolutely love the sound and would love to recreate it... and have no idea where to start. At times it sounds like synth and at times it sounds like tremolo-picked guitar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmx73CMapPU

This was back a little bit, but I don't think I saw it answered.

It sounds very much like 4-6 guitar tracks playing harmonies + octaves, with a volume pedal in the effects loop and reverb in series (in the chain, not as a send). There's a fuzziness to the lead parts which makes me think it's some kind of fuzz pedal with a somewhat controlled gain for musical feedback, and it's using the neck pickup to give it that square-ish sound. Keep in mind there are parts coming in and out at various points to fill out the sound as necessary, most noticeable right before a change.

The gain of the amp on lead seems pretty high, which muddies the note definition and allows it to sound smooth instead of staccato with tremolo picking. Some of the rhythm parts are sustained single notes, and there's a clean guitar I can hear around the 3:30 mark with a 10-15% feedback delay (could be throughout the song, I'm on laptop speakers right now).

Best way to emulate this on an amp sim would be a slow-gear effect on a cranked 5150 or Soldano with a boosted mid, somewhat cut high, a fuzz with a moderate amount of gain and maybe 60% level, a dark hall reverb, and a low feedback delay with 40-60% mix. Flip between pickups and volume knob for lead vs. rhythm parts, and add a clean track for fill+definition.

Boz0r
Sep 7, 2006
The Rocketship in action.
I just bought a 2-octave midi controller to mess around and learn synth and stuff. Can someone tell me to represent the synth and pad from this song in synth1?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx_O8xKVEBI (Disregard the video, I couldn't find any other)

Beef Log Boy
Jul 6, 2004

Cut the Cheeeeese Log and I'm a happy fellow!
Right around 2:15 of this song there's a bass that kicks in and I love it. Any ideas on this one?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUAy5iljD1Y

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GbrushTwood
Jul 18, 2004
Mighty Pirate.

Beef Log Boy posted:

Right around 2:15 of this song there's a bass that kicks in and I love it. Any ideas on this one?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUAy5iljD1Y


It's actually a pretty straight forward sound. It's just one saw wave, run through a low pass filter with the cutoff completely open, and the resonance turned up just a little bit, and then run it through a distortion plug-in like Camel Phat. What you will find with most electro songs is that the main bass line is nothing but a saw wave run through various distortion effects.

Make sure to EQ it and buss it properly, by cutting low cutting the bass around 100 hz, boosting around 200-250, and around the 3k area to get some high end definition on the bass. Then just make sure you send it to a buss with a matching sub-bass synth, and compress it so that the 2 synths sound like 1 fatty bassline.

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