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Zelenka was the true star of Atlantis. In my SG-1 rewatch I've reached season 3.  Aris BochHe really should have been used more.
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They always waste so much food in Stargate. Whenever Daniel and the others sit down in the mess hall the alarm starts blaring and they have to rush off to oversee the unscheduled gate activity. Even in Atlantis where they have limited resources you'll see Dr. Weir sit down to eat but she'll be called away for an emergency. She'll just dump it in the trash and go running off.
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Mu Zeta posted:They always waste so much food in Stargate. Whenever Daniel and the others sit down in the mess hall the alarm starts blaring and they have to rush off to oversee the unscheduled gate activity. Even in Atlantis where they have limited resources you'll see Dr. Weir sit down to eat but she'll be called away for an emergency. She'll just dump it in the trash and go running off.
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Flatscan posted:I love the look on O'Neill's face. I just watched a S6 episode yesterday, where Thor takes them to deal with replicators and they're all sitting around eating ice cream. O'Neill has a spoon and tries to get some Teal'C moves his hand away and gives O'Neill and O'Neill is just all 'what the gently caress'. Then Teal'C grabs a case of ice cream of O'Neill. Then after some dialog you see Teal'C snatch O'Neill's ice cream and switches it with his own. The whole little sequence was great and I give it no justice in my lovely retelling.
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Jun 22, 2011 21:27
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Minimaul posted:I love the look on O'Neill's face. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcc0dbwfMRg
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Jun 22, 2011 21:30
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Yeah, that's it! That's awesome. I love little stuff like that.
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Jun 22, 2011 21:34
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka6tvlewO3c Here is the best Teal'c scene.
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I know Stargate is a goofy sci fi action adventure show with lots of completely outlandish bullshit going on right from the start, so maybe this is just blind sperging; but did anyone else utterly lose their suspension of disbelief when humans from Earth started building gigantic intergalactic spaceships in secret? I mean by season 9 or 10 or whatever they had them beaming skyscrapers into space and Jaffa conducting terrorist attacks on office buildings in cloaked cargo ships and meanwhile everything is supposed to still be a secret from the public. When they started doing stuff like that, plus having massive international involvement it just takes me right out of the story. I think what sealed it for me was that episode where Carter got sent to that alternate reality where the Stargate did go public, as if the writers wanted to say "See! We can't ever really change the status quo (except for when we want to be Star Trek) because society would collapse!  "Looking back, actually dealing with having the Stargate program (and thusly all the cool technology they collected and evidently reverse engineered) go public would have been a much more satisfying way to spend the last two seasons of the show, rather than making up the Ori and trying to make them menacing.
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GreenNight posted:That will be JetsGuy when he watches season 2 of SGU. I admit I wrote off SGA completely when it was on TV. I felt like it was probably dumb as gently caress, and every time I heard about the Wraith, it just sounded like goofy space vampires and just couldn't be good. I freely admit I was very wrong, and from Rising, I realized that I was wrong to write it off. With SGU, however, I tried not to make that same mistake. I actually did watch for a good stretch. I understand that the show apparently got much better in 1.5, and supposedly the show stopped being awful. If the characters weren't absolutely reprehensible, I'd feel more motivated to watch the rest of SGU... EDIT: Aaaaaand there's a certain irony in that I just sat through Tayla singing as I wrote this... The best part of that episode is Kavanaugh (almost) getting the poo poo kicked out of him.  Well, that and it's followed by one of my favorite SGA episodes, Grace Under Pressure.EDIT 2: quote:When they started doing stuff like that, plus having massive international involvement it just takes me right out of the story. I think what sealed it for me was that episode where Carter got sent to that alternate reality where the Stargate did go public, as if the writers wanted to say "See! We can't ever really change the status quo (except for when we want to be Star Trek) because society would collapse! To be fair, I wouldn't trust our current political climate to the Stargate at all. JetsGuy fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jun 22, 2011 |
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Tighclops posted:I know Stargate is a goofy sci fi action adventure show with lots of completely outlandish bullshit going on right from the start, so maybe this is just blind sperging; but did anyone else utterly lose their suspension of disbelief when humans from Earth started building gigantic intergalactic spaceships in secret? I mean by season 9 or 10 or whatever they had them beaming skyscrapers into space and Jaffa conducting terrorist attacks on office buildings in cloaked cargo ships and meanwhile everything is supposed to still be a secret from the public. I read somewhere that the canceled stargate movie would be about the program going public and the poo poo storm that would occur.
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Supposedly in SGU season 3, when everyone woke up and 2 years or whatever passed, the Stargate was public knowledge and the shitstorm has hit the fan for the past 2 years...bobkatt013 posted:I read somewhere that the canceled stargate movie would be about the program going public and the poo poo storm that would occur. Yes, this was originally part of the 3rd SG1 movie.
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GreenNight posted:Supposedly in SGU season 3, when everyone woke up and 2 years or whatever passed, the Stargate was public knowledge and the shitstorm has hit the fan for the past 2 years... Where'd you hear that?
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drcru posted:Where'd you hear that? One of Joe's blogs. He mentioned that the events from the movies would be incorporated into season 3. Of course he originally wanted them to sleep for 100-200 years, but was overruled.
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LITERALLY MAD IRL posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka6tvlewO3c Seriously, this scene is the best scene in Stargate.
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Paradoxish posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcc0dbwfMRg God drat Teal'c is awesome.
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Tighclops posted:but did anyone else utterly lose their suspension of disbelief when humans from Earth started building gigantic intergalactic spaceships in secret? I mean by season 9 or 10 or whatever they had them beaming skyscrapers into space and Jaffa conducting terrorist attacks on office buildings in cloaked cargo ships and meanwhile everything is supposed to still be a secret from the public. Would have bothered me a lot more if it had gone on longer. Like, by the end of SGU it felt like a stretch, but it didn't pull me out of the show any more than anything else. Another couple of seasons of that and I'd be right there with you, though. Then again, I've really only seen most of the post-season 6 episodes of SG-1 once (if at all), so I think I kind of subconsciously keep most of that stuff out when I think of the show's universe.
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Tighclops posted:I know Stargate is a goofy sci fi action adventure show with lots of completely outlandish bullshit going on right from the start, so maybe this is just blind sperging; but did anyone else utterly lose their suspension of disbelief when humans from Earth started building gigantic intergalactic spaceships in secret? I mean by season 9 or 10 or whatever they had them beaming skyscrapers into space and Jaffa conducting terrorist attacks on office buildings in cloaked cargo ships and meanwhile everything is supposed to still be a secret from the public. I agree, I found it weird enough that they could suddenly build a huge space carrier, having had trouble just making fighters before. I wonder if the writers were afraid of making the show clearly not take place in our world, or something. Not only is it increasingly less plausible, but it gets more and more morally reprehensible to hide what's going on out there from the majority of the world. Ultimately I think it's a big shame that the proposed "Stargate Command" show never got made (instead of season 9/10), if it had gone ahead the franchise would probably still be alive. 
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Mayborne was a hardass military guy in the season finale of Sanctuary. Miss him.
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GreenNight posted:Mayborne was a hardass military guy in the season finale of Sanctuary. Miss him. Heh, I was watching that and I said "loving Mayborne" while shaking my fist at the tv. My girlfriend thinks I'm retarded.
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When Teal'c is O'Neill it's hilarious.
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bobkatt013 posted:When Teal'c is O'Neill it's hilarious. Yea Chrisopher Judge does a drat good job with that. Better than oneills tealc IMO.
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Tighclops posted:I know Stargate is a goofy sci fi action adventure show with lots of completely outlandish bullshit going on right from the start, so maybe this is just blind sperging; but did anyone else utterly lose their suspension of disbelief when humans from Earth started building gigantic intergalactic spaceships in secret? Yeah, suddenly they just started pulling those out of nowhere. In the early seasons there was this aura of mystery, wonder and danger in the show. They didn't have any spaceships of their own or any other advanced technology and they were constantly in danger of getting invaded. They were underdogs against Goaulds with exploration being their only hope of defense by finding technology and slowly reverse-engineering it. Galaxy was full of ancient powerful civilizations like Asgard and Nox who had technology so far ahead of what humans had. In season 1 finale when the Pyramid ship was coming it was BAD NEWS, they tried to destroy it with naquadah enhanced nuke and failed without making a dent. Goaulds were a serious overwhelming threat. They only won by gating into it winning through cunning instead of brute-force. How awesome it was then when they first introduced Asgards and they just made those Pyramid ships vanish into nothing. "An Asgard Mothership! I've heard of them described in Jaffa legend!" And few seasons later they all have spaceships and its just giant "PEW PEW shields down to x-percent" battles against everyone. Even Asgard for some reason couldn't destroy Goauld ships with ease anymore. System lords were being defeated with left-hand and they had to come up with new enemies. Replicators were OK at first, giving some variation to normal enemies though. Ancients were mysterious before they turned them into assholes. I still liked the series but I felt that it lost something when they suddenly got spaceships and advanced technology.
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I just caught the SG:A episode where everyone loses their memories and the military personnel end up going nuts on the stimulants they've been taking to ward the symptoms off. It seemed like a decent episode until two things happened, which made it great. (1)A completely distracted and forgetful Rodney only needing to hit the Enter key to finish his program and (2)Sheppard having stuck a polaroid of himself in Lorne's jacket. This is the kind of sensible, smart move that doesn't happen enough in TV shows like this.
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CaptainQuirk posted:Yeah, suddenly they just started pulling those out of nowhere. In the early seasons there was this aura of mystery, wonder and danger in the show. They didn't have any spaceships of their own or any other advanced technology and they were constantly in danger of getting invaded. They were underdogs against Goaulds with exploration being their only hope of defense by finding technology and slowly reverse-engineering it. Galaxy was full of ancient powerful civilizations like Asgard and Nox who had technology so far ahead of what humans had. I really liked them gaining better and better tech. It would have felt like a lovely cop out if they were at the same tech level as 7 years previous and had to only rely on out smarting. Now the saving earth thing and sense of danger disappearing I can see but I think it was a natural progression.
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bobkatt013 posted:When Teal'c is O'Neill it's hilarious. What? When did this happen?
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Zorba the Greek posted:What? When did this happen? Holiday
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bobkatt013 posted:Holiday Watching this episode right now. Thank you.
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Heh, tricked into watching a terrible episode.
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Mu Zeta posted:Heh, tricked into watching a terrible episode. Everything involving Daniel Jackson sucks but the Teal'c and O'Neill stuff is awesome. Carter does not matter in this episode.
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I haven't watched it in like a decade but doesn't Daniel Jackson take up most of the episode?
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Mu Zeta posted:I haven't watched it in like a decade but doesn't Daniel Jackson take up most of the episode? a good portion but the time spent in SGC is awesome.
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Drizzt01 posted:I really liked them gaining better and better tech. It would have felt like a lovely cop out if they were at the same tech level as 7 years previous and had to only rely on out smarting. Now the saving earth thing and sense of danger disappearing I can see but I think it was a natural progression. I agree, I just think that they progressed too fast. They were experimenting with their goauld glider-based fighters early on that had problems and then like 2 seasons later they had these massive spaceships. They got too powerful so new enemies had to be introduced since goaulds werent that big of a threat anymore. I would've liked if they had slowly made progess. One apparently dropped plotline was Carter learning to use those goauld hand devices - it would have been cool to see them slowly getting technology that was reverse engineered from what they encountered resulting in weird alien-human technology hybrids. Few technological advances per season that would show in the equipment they carry. Goauld shields, energy weapons (well they did use those stunning ones) and other equipment. Showing them gradually reaping the fruits of exploration and getting stronger until defeating Apophis and some other system lords.
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Mu Zeta posted:I haven't watched it in like a decade but doesn't Daniel Jackson take up most of the episode? Magellan in Daniel Jacksons body, Daniel is actually in a coma in the infirmary most of the episode. When I rewatched I fast forwarded through the Magellan parts.
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CaptainQuirk posted:I agree, I just think that they progressed too fast. They were experimenting with their goauld glider-based fighters early on that had problems and then like 2 seasons later they had these massive spaceships. They got too powerful so new enemies had to be introduced since goaulds werent that big of a threat anymore. Agreed. It's going to take us about a little over 2 decades to design and build the new Queen Elizabeth class aircraft carriers (not that we have any planes to stock the drat things with) and obviously that's based on existing technology. They apparently went from slapping a US Airforce sticker on the side of a deathglider in season 4, to having a fully armed battleship/carrier launching in 2 years. And it was superior in almost every way to a Goa'uld battleship? I don't buy it. I could buy it if it was a slightly more advanced Space Shuttle, fitted with some small (stolen) shields, and engines that could hit hyperspace, but I just didn't buy us being able to build ships more powerful than the Goa'uld within two years. A progression in personal tech like you said, with them getting some reverse engineered energy based weapons or some other useful little bits of tech would have been much more believable and kept the premise of human underdogs vs powerful aliens.
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I have brought the idea up before, but I still think SG-1 seasons 9 and 10 would have been much better if an Ori Prior had got to Earth and managed to convert a couple of nations. They could have really played up how persuasive it would be to a lot of people as well that these aliens rock up and start revealing secrets that could have saved thousands of lives over the past decade that the major world governments have been keeping secret.
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Has anyone taken a running tally as to how many times someone said "we're willing to take that risk" or similar throughout all the series? I'd imagine it's probably close to the number of episodes. Mu Zeta posted:Heh, tricked into watching a terrible episode. Not only was Holiday a terrible episode, it was so terrible that they outright said it was a terrible episode in Citizen Joe. Senor Tron posted:I have brought the idea up before, but I still think SG-1 seasons 9 and 10 would have been much better if an Ori Prior had got to Earth and managed to convert a couple of nations. They could have really played up how persuasive it would be to a lot of people as well that these aliens rock up and start revealing secrets that could have saved thousands of lives over the past decade that the major world governments have been keeping secret. The problem with the Ori was simply that the series was pretty much over, RDA was long gone, and really it was obvious they were just going through the motions. Well, that and the writing staff went full-on goon in their social "commentary".  "Heh, these priors sound a lot like my grandmother. SILLY XIANS!" That said, I feel that S9 and S10 get way too much flak. They're not nearly as bad as people make them out to be. JetsGuy fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Jun 24, 2011 |
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CaptainQuirk posted:I agree, I just think that they progressed too fast. They were experimenting with their goauld glider-based fighters early on that had problems and then like 2 seasons later they had these massive spaceships. They got too powerful so new enemies had to be introduced since goaulds werent that big of a threat anymore.
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MadScientistWorking posted:Well remember. They jumped in technology level because of the Goauld. Plus that was the entire premise of the show "use the Stargate to acquire technology and allies to fight the gua'uld". It's a bit unfair to criticize the show when it actually does what it says it's going to do. Though I agree they should've at least mentioned the big carrier type ships before introducing them. It's not really the level of technology in them either (all of which had been seen before: naquada generators, hyperdrive etc.) but just the size of them. It's hard to believe you could build something that's about the size an aircraft carrier and probably even more costly in complete secrecy.
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quote:They apparently went from slapping a US Airforce sticker on the side of a deathglider in season 4, to having a fully armed battleship/carrier launching in 2 years. And it was superior in almost every way to a Goa'uld battleship? I don't buy it.
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