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Thing X used to be in FCP and now its gone - A third party developer will surely make something to fix this But you don't allow plugins - ....
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 00:11 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 15:25 |
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You mean unlike all the third party plugins that were announced in the last couple days?
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 02:41 |
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bassguitarhero posted:You mean unlike all the third party plugins that were announced in the last couple days? Yes the $500 Automatic Duck plugin to put functionality back into FCP that was taken out for no reason. So now your upgrade costs $800.
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 14:47 |
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It's still a plugin. You just said the software doesn't allow plugins and yet there they are. BorisFX and FX Factory have both announced new plugin sets for FCPX, so obviously plugins are happening. I mean, sure you can complain that the old plugins don't work anymore, but that happens anytime there's a major change in the codebase. I lost a bunch of plugins when I went from AE CS4 to CS5.5, since it's now 64 bit. Them's the breaks. Note that I have not used FCPX (I'm still on FCP6 at home, some clients have 7), I don't expect to purchase it for some time but I'm not gonna rage about it. FCP6 handles all my needs currently so I don't see what's really worth getting so upset about.
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# ? Jun 23, 2011 21:24 |
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Not sure if this is already commonly known or if it's just a bunch of , but here's an interesting theory, quoted from the Apple Support Communities Discussions Board:quote:From a Professional standpoint, the current version of FCPX is unusable on so many levels due to the absence of basic features that made FCP series the juggernaut it was until yesterday. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3134732?tstart=0 While the inconsistencies in his argument have been addressed (Apple is not requiring an upgrade to Lion for the upgrade, and the more important counterpoint that 3rd party plugins have started to be released), I do think it illuminates a very possible and likely future of the product upon the release of Lion. It just seems logical from Apple's business model, that with the release of Lion, the "fixed" FCP X will be also be released with a set of plugins that must be purchased separately through the app store. Eventually it seems, the future of FCP is that Apple will only develop the foundation for the program, hence the low $300 tag, but the professional capacity of the program will rely almost entirely on plugins which will be available exclusively through their app store. Thus, the total cost of the program is completely at the discretion of the developer of said plugins. Apple spends nothing on developing the software, and gets to cash in on the program in the same way they've cashed in on the app store from all of their iDevices. Makes complete sense from a business standpoint.
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 15:46 |
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HopWallace posted:Not sure if this is already commonly known or if it's just a bunch of , but here's an interesting theory, quoted from the Apple Support Communities Discussions Board: If that was the case, they should be telling people this. The lack of communication from Apple is frustrating. Also, this will just balloon the price back up where its longer an upgrade, but a full software purchase. What this does, though, is fragment the user base. I used to manage 20 machines that were tethered together by an XServe. Each machine had AE, but only some had various Trapcode plugins. So, we could only alter those specific projects on specific machines. Annoying. Again, if this was the case, they should have put out a balls out 'full' version of the software, and then sold the base version with the ability to purchase add-ons. I can get down with that- some people don't need it all. Meanwhile, Adobe has people all over the RED boards picking up everyone who is pissed off.
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 17:05 |
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magiccarpet posted:If that was the case, they should be telling people this. The lack of communication from Apple is frustrating. It's been like 3 days. I don't know about you but my work has been getting done just the same since Wednesday.
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 17:36 |
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butterypancakes posted:It's been like 3 days. I don't know about you but my work has been getting done just the same since Wednesday. I put things on HDCAM SR tape when finished and need an external monitor for color correction. So I don't use this product.
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 18:11 |
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The big problem with that is that none of it's true - Apple pushes out tons of free patches over the App Store and withholding key features as paid updates would kill adoption rates for a piece of software that's *already* getting tons of extremely negative reviews. On top of that you can already buy new plugins and install them outside of the App Store, as Automatic Duck, BorisFX and FXFactory already have plugin packages for FCPX that they're selling through their websites. They're not gonna sell a two-tiered version of the software, they already have that - iMovie. Apple will patch in remaining functionality that production houses require, while new users will adopt it and learn it and work as it's essentially a public beta. My guess is that when FCP7 got pushed out the door they devoted all the resources to the complete rewrite, but weren't willing to skip an entire development cycle, so they pushed what they had out the door so people can start using it while they continue working on it. Not the best of moves, as it would have been nice to see them come out with the whole shebang at once, but if the choice was between release this this summer, or release nothing at all, they decided to go that route. It seems like they're catering to the fastest-growing segment of the industry, which is home/home-office users who go out and shoot on T2is and 5Ds and want to come home and edit something really quickly and push it out the door. The current functionality is perfect for that, while adding the legacy items like tape support and such, will come over time. The big production houses aren't going to switch over on day 1 anyways, so the wailing and gnashing of teeth will happen either way you look at it.
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 18:18 |
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butterypancakes posted:Yeah, they only care about iDevices, that's why they spent lots of time and money rewriting FCP from scratch. It'll be updated, if it doesn't work for you then use 7. My main client still has 6, it's fine. The reason I am disappointed is that they have stopped selling new licenses for FCP 7. So if you didn't buy FCP 7 before this new unusable piece of poo poo came out, you are screwed for at least a year. At work this isn't an issue, but I am in the planning stages for buying a new editing system at home, and now I am screwed.
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 18:27 |
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bassguitarhero posted:They're not gonna sell a two-tiered version of the software, they already have that - iMovie. Apple will patch in remaining functionality that production houses require, while new users will adopt it and learn it and work as it's essentially a public beta. While you are right (according to some thoughts that are being posted about multicam on some other sites) the basic media directory structure is not going to play well in a multi user environment. You simply cannot share a project with anyone else, on any other system, without a complete re-write of the management.
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 18:53 |
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magiccarpet posted:I put things on HDCAM SR tape when finished and need an external monitor for color correction. So I don't use this product. Is this some sort of dick measurement? I don't care. Your workflow doesn't all ready include some sort of real finishing software? Automatic Duck your way on over to that.
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 19:06 |
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Apparently they've communicated some responses to David Pogue. http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/professional-video-editors-weigh-in-on-final-cut-pro-x/
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 19:09 |
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butterypancakes posted:Is this some sort of dick measurement? I don't care. No, I make TV spots. So I put them on tape, as thats the preferred delivery method. And I use Color to CC them. With the new software I cant, and now (if I were to use this software) I'd have to shell out 500 bucks to duck it to Resolve or something.
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 19:14 |
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MrBond posted:Apparently they've communicated some responses to David Pogue. That isn't very helpful, you need a reporter who actually knows what the product is used for to ask the right questions.
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 19:37 |
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Ishamael posted:The reason I am disappointed is that they have stopped selling new licenses for FCP 7. So if you didn't buy FCP 7 before this new unusable piece of poo poo came out, you are screwed for at least a year. Wait, what? They seriously stopped selling FCP 7 licenses for this? That sounds insane.
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 20:37 |
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Yeah, if you still want to purchase FCP7 your only bet is to order it from some retailer and hope they have enough stock on hand.
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 20:49 |
Ishamael posted:The reason I am disappointed is that they have stopped selling new licenses for FCP 7. I've taken a lot of digs at apple based on the information about FCPX I've heard in this thread (I work in a post house, but I'm not a video editor myself) however that just takes the cake. This would be pretty much the point where it crossed from "apple is screwing us again" to "what the gently caress are they thinking?".
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# ? Jun 24, 2011 20:57 |
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exp0n fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Jan 1, 2014 |
# ? Jun 25, 2011 06:54 |
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exponentory posted:All problems aside, scrubbing through a fully rendered sequence is delightfully fast. Yeah, there are some really nice things going on under the hood, which is part of what makes the rest of it such a drat shame.
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# ? Jun 25, 2011 18:56 |
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The slow audio scrub is really nice too. One of my favorite additions.
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# ? Jun 25, 2011 20:11 |
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How can I change the resolution of the sequencer? In the screenshot, there is a 1 second interval between 'ticks', but I need to sync some audio and video up that require millisecond precision. (Obviously using Premiere Pro CS5.5)
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# ? Jun 26, 2011 22:41 |
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nbv4 posted:
Drag the light gray part of that bar back and forth.
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# ? Jun 27, 2011 00:55 |
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CaptainViolence posted:
That just changes the zoom. I want to be able to place an audio channel so that it starts at 0:01:14.38 instead of just on 0:01:14.00 seconds. Does that make sense? Right now I can only place items on the ticks. As I drag an audio channel across the sequencer, it snaps to the ticks.
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# ? Jun 27, 2011 04:20 |
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I don't think any NLE will give you that kind of precision when it comes to audio - the smallest increment you can edit with is 1 frame. If you need more precision, you need to bounce your project to a dedicated audio editor.
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# ? Jun 27, 2011 05:54 |
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1st AD posted:I don't think any NLE will give you that kind of precision when it comes to audio - the smallest increment you can edit with is 1 frame. If you need more precision, you need to bounce your project to a dedicated audio editor. Actually, this is something that FCPX does do.
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# ? Jun 27, 2011 06:05 |
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nbv4 posted:
At the right there's a menu where you can switch to audio units: Edit: While you can move and trim audio tracks more precisely like this, a video track's smallest resolution is still one frame, even when you move/trim a video clip in audio mode. Make sure to switch back to video units before editing video tracks again to not get sub-frame gaps or misalignments, since those will be "rounded up" to the next full video frame. Edit 2: I think the shortcut in Premiere to move a selected clip by the currently smallest increment in the timeline (1 frame or 1 audio unit respectively) is ALT-left/right arrow. For ten units at a time it's SHIFT-ALT-left/right arrow. Das MicroKorg fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Jun 27, 2011 |
# ? Jun 27, 2011 07:23 |
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Two Worlds posted:Actually, this is something that FCPX does do. It's also something FCP7 did as well. Nice to know they left something in.
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# ? Jun 27, 2011 09:43 |
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FLX posted:At the right there's a menu where you can switch to audio units: This is what I'm trying to create: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EHBdhVubNQ Basically, I have 4 videos with the same soundtrack that I need to overlap exactly onto each other. Each video has it's own soundtrack, which is just music that the camera's built in crappy mic picked up. I'm only using that audio to match the videos together. The final product will have the mp3's playing directly. In the example I posted, each dance track is off by a few seconds (I'm too lazy to get them synced up better because I can't get it perfect anyways), which is why it kind of looks weird. How can I get them exactly synced up in Premiere? This is my first foray into video editing, so I need a little help
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# ? Jun 27, 2011 16:11 |
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You could just be lazy and buy plural eyes.
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# ? Jun 27, 2011 19:46 |
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Set your sequence settings for audio to display "audio samples" Unlink the video & audio tracks In the timeline fly-out menu, checkmark "show audio time units" Right click the counter to show "audio samples" instead of miliseconds Now nudging the audio with alt+arrowkey or dragging the audio track should be subframe
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# ? Jun 28, 2011 00:57 |
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Gunjin posted:Set your sequence settings for audio to display "audio samples" Ah thanks, this is how I got it to work. By the way, does anybody have any recommendations on the best way to blend each video together. Right now I have the opacity set to 25% for each video. Is there a better way? Also, which blending mode should I use (color burn, linear burn, overlay, dissolve, luminosity, etc)?
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# ? Jun 28, 2011 01:36 |
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My coworker found an interesting bug in FCP X today. If you import video into FCP X, no matter what you do to it, After Effects will not open it complaining about some Unicode error. It seems that FCP X adds meta data to the file that AE can't read, and refuses to import it. Even converting the video after import using QT7 or Compressor still won't allow AE to open it.
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# ? Jun 28, 2011 01:42 |
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Is this video that's transcoded within FCPX? Because I have some clips that were ingested from FCP7 in a current FCPX project and they work in After Effects CS5. I also don't see any evidence that the clips were modified (going off the date modified field in Finder).
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# ? Jun 28, 2011 01:59 |
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1st AD posted:Is this video that's transcoded within FCPX? Because I have some clips that were ingested from FCP7 in a current FCPX project and they work in After Effects CS5. I also don't see any evidence that the clips were modified (going off the date modified field in Finder). Yeah they were imported directly with FCPX from a T2i. The files converted to ProRes in FCP6 work just fine.
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# ? Jun 28, 2011 02:06 |
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oh man FCPX is such a piece of poo poo. Someone brought it into my friends office and just 30 minutes with it they convinced their boss to go completely avid next quarter
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# ? Jun 28, 2011 02:58 |
More on the "FCPX is really imovie" bandwagon (just emailed to me by our senior video editor) http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/shullfish/story/proof_that_fcp_x_is_really_just_imovie_-_directly_from_apple/
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# ? Jun 28, 2011 19:39 |
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thunderspanks posted:More on the "FCPX is really imovie" bandwagon (just emailed to me by our senior video editor) http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/shullfish/story/proof_that_fcp_x_is_really_just_imovie_-_directly_from_apple/ The dumbest thing I've read in a long time... and this last week on this side of the internet has been nuts. Apple will fix FCP X. If you're really into knee jerk decisions go ahead and jump ship.
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# ? Jun 28, 2011 21:42 |
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butterypancakes posted:The dumbest thing I've read in a long time... and this last week on this side of the internet has been nuts. You know you don't have to be a blatant apologist, right? Apple shipped an awful product missing key features that are part of a lot of people's workflows and for good reason they're jumping ship. Especially considering Apple's track record for keeping their Pro Suite updated.
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# ? Jun 28, 2011 22:11 |
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butterypancakes posted:The dumbest thing I've read in a long time... and this last week on this side of the internet has been nuts. There's no ship to jump. People are fond of saying "it's a complete ground-up rewrite" to defend it, but the reality of that is that transitioning from FCP7 to FCPX is the same as going from FCP7 to Avid or Premiere. People can either stick with what they have (FCP7), or transition to a completely new product (Avid, Premiere, or FCPX). But the platform FCP7 users are on right now is effectively gone, with no more support and no ability to purchase further licenses. Going to FCPX is "jumping ship" as much as any other transition... the only difference being that it's at a worse place right now than the alternatives.
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# ? Jun 29, 2011 01:13 |