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Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Thiessman's is perfect. 5 to whenever! (i'll be arriving at 6 or later due to traffic)

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Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Alright homies I'm on my way over. Grey long sleeve polo.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Also congrats on flag day NI!

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
ill be in short sleeve grey polo, i think i can find you guys. will be there around 6-630

pamchenko
Apr 16, 2011

TCD posted:

NEC compound, any first or second tour officer of state or aid has a mandatory attendance with assigned roles and responsibilities. In fact person organizing this is a DLI and it's happening in June so my goal of leaving on the first was foiled.

People are still on leave, but if you were in country, plan on attending or feel free to have a 1 on 1 with the Front Office. I am hoping I get saved by some server outage.

Just one more way this NEC thing is gonna suck. Right now, it's fair to say that at our mission (on the AID side) if you're in town, you're expected to work the party, but no one's going to make you. At least, no one that I know of. I definitely know some people who are working, but nothing like the entire population of first/second tour officers.

I guess the one good thing is that it'd get you out of work for a couple of hours.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.
gently caress. Just said goodbye to my best friend here. It's one of those friendships had we been in the states working normal jobs we'd still be friends. Hardest part about this gig :smith:

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
Looks like I just missed you guys. Arrived around 7, spent 30 minutes looking for you but I guess y'all threw me under the bus :smugdog:

Eh, my fault :) Sorry to hear that TCD

1of7
Jan 30, 2011
You must've just missed us as it was right around 7 when I left. Too bad, maybe next time.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

1of7 posted:

You must've just missed us as it was right around 7 when I left. Too bad, maybe next time.

BoF and I hung outside for another 15 min or so before heading home.

There'll be another time.

Homie S
Aug 6, 2001

This is what it means

Business of Ferrets posted:

Nah, I don't start work until after Labor Day, so I'm good. Also, don't think you get comp time if you officially are in travel status.

You weren't in travel status? If it's official business and over 14 hours...

Natural Ice
Mar 22, 2007
SPF 15

Diplomaticus posted:

Also congrats on flag day NI!

Thanks! Sorry I missed you guys yesterday, we ended up going out with the rest of my class and either congratulating some or reassuring others about their posts. :) As for my wife and I, we will be heading to beautiful Bangkok, Thailand next May! Thailand was near the top of our bid list and we are very excited about living and working in Southeast Asia.

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009
FYI a hiring process for diplomatic couriers just opened if anyone is interested in that.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester
Dear IMS folks:

Holy. poo poo. Y'all have a rough job. I've been here two days and have had no less than 6 meetings with IMS people to get poo poo fixed/setup (and none of them were simple issues or "you broke it" things.) My hat is waaaay off to y'all.

Vilerat
May 11, 2002

Diplomaticus posted:

Dear IMS folks:

Holy. poo poo. Y'all have a rough job. I've been here two days and have had no less than 6 meetings with IMS people to get poo poo fixed/setup (and none of them were simple issues or "you broke it" things.) My hat is waaaay off to y'all.

The trick is to get promoted so you can sit at a desk and tell other people to pull cable or fix poo poo.

Skandiaavity
Apr 20, 2005
well, something to look forward to then!


A bit too soon, but if anyone's in town in July, I'm still up for another meetup..

DasNeonLicht
Dec 25, 2005

"...and the light is on and burning brightly for the masses."
Fallen Rib
Passed the written!! 59.91 / 43.23 / 61.41 // 164.55

I never thought I'd clear this hurdle any time soon! I thought I had lovely 30-min essay writing skills, and I got a 6! [Edit: Ah, it's a 12-point scale, not a 6, so a 6 is more of a "barely passed," not an "outstanding."]

I hear the QEP is a total drag, though. Any suggestions?

DasNeonLicht fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Jun 29, 2011

Swarmin Swedes
Oct 22, 2008
Just found out I passed the written, 2nd time with the QEPs is hopefully the charm.

How do I go about setting up my SCNL language test? Do I get a separate letter or do I have to contact ACT?

Results for the FSOT

Total 181.38
Biographical: 72.30
Job Knowledge: 56.80
English Expression: 52.28

Essay: 8

TheImmigrant
Jan 18, 2011
Just received notification that I passed the written exam. I've made it to OA several times now before getting dinged.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Diplomaticus posted:

Dear IMS folks:

Holy. poo poo. Y'all have a rough job. I've been here two days and have had no less than 6 meetings with IMS people to get poo poo fixed/setup (and none of them were simple issues or "you broke it" things.) My hat is waaaay off to y'all.

True, but I got out of the initial hour and a half of greeting guests tonight due to an emergency PCC issue. I strolled in and 5 minutes later the Ambassador gave his remarks and final farewell.

Under 48 hours. :911:

The Mantis
Jul 19, 2004

what is yall sayin?
Passed with a 181! Thanks for all the amazing advice goons!

Let the PN research begin...

Kase Im Licht
Jan 26, 2001
Passed the written. Again. Time to do the QEP. Again. I hate that loving thing.

Nice that they just give you the score breakdown now, it was always annoying having to separately request it.

I think my score on the multiple choice parts was better than previous years. 177, with a 60.67 on the biographical part, I'm getting better at BSing that crap. Playing on a volleyball team with a bunch of foreigners helped on several questions. Why would that make me a better FSO again?

For some reason my essay score has dropped every year though. That's probably not good. 8 this year, 9 last year, 11 the year before.

Oh well, its always pointless. loving QEP.

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.
Under 24 hours!

Bellum
Jun 3, 2011

All war is deception.
I'm still waiting on my FSOT results. Took the test June 6th, so any day now...

The Diplomatic Courier position opened up again. It's open until July 18th.

http://careers.state.gov/specialist/vacancy-announcements/dc

edit: oh hey look at that, I PASSED WOOT.

Bellum fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jun 30, 2011

Roark
Dec 1, 2009

A moderate man - a violently moderate man.
I'm still waiting on my FSOT results, too - although I received an email this morning about taking a language proficiency test in one of the two critical languages that I know, as part of the package for the QEP. So...I passed, I guess?

Edit: Finally got my results and score breakdown. Passed - now on to the PN and seriously brushing up on my Farsi.

Roark fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Jul 1, 2011

The Mantis
Jul 19, 2004

what is yall sayin?
Anyone else having trouble accessing the website for the PNs? I'm getting a 500 error when trying to open the link from the acceptance letter. Oh god is it a test I'm already failing?? :tinfoil:


e: must have been down. working now

The Mantis fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Jul 1, 2011

Angry_Ninja
Jul 1, 2011
I have my IMS OA in about a week. I’m a bit worried that I may crash and burn on the tech section of the interview. I have a ton of enterprise network experience with routing, switch, wireless, and VOIP with just about every major hardware vendor. My weak spot is going to be anything to do with servers and general PC repair type questions; I have not done that type of work in years. Does anyone have any advice on what to focus on?

Does anyone know how the scoring works on the OA is it an average of your scores for each section? I have read that each section is independent and does not have an effect on the others is there any truth to this?

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

Angry_Ninja posted:

I have my IMS OA in about a week. I’m a bit worried that I may crash and burn on the tech section of the interview. I have a ton of enterprise network experience with routing, switch, wireless, and VOIP with just about every major hardware vendor. My weak spot is going to be anything to do with servers and general PC repair type questions; I have not done that type of work in years. Does anyone have any advice on what to focus on?

Does anyone know how the scoring works on the OA is it an average of your scores for each section? I have read that each section is independent and does not have an effect on the others is there any truth to this?

The IMS career is much more broad than just networking so I'd make it point to focus on general IT skills and management. Also if this doesn't sound fun I'd reconsider being an IMS. Also I am writing this in Europe.... First IMS tour done. Up for tenure on this board!

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope
Congrats TCD! And good luck on tenure even though I'm sure you'll get it.

I actually had a good time with our 4th party. We had a western theme so they had us IPC guys set up two working telegraph stations so people could send messages back and forth, or just tap at it and get a response from the other side. We actually procured turn of the century telegraph equipment and manuals. Showing it off was kind of fun.

Angry_Ninja
Jul 1, 2011

TCD posted:

The IMS career is much more broad than just networking so I'd make it point to focus on general IT skills and management. Also if this doesn't sound fun I'd reconsider being an IMS. Also I am writing this in Europe.... First IMS tour done. Up for tenure on this board!

Congratulations on completing your first and tour and thank you for the advice. I’m not too worried about the other areas like management and soft skills; I manage quite a few people already at work. I think I just need to relax and take a deep breath. I’ve been trying to brush up on just about every topic imaginable to get an advantage going into the interview at this point I’m probably on overload.

Time to step back and remember number one on my 12D sheet –composure.

Rrail
Nov 26, 2003

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Any of you State folks ever work with INL?

asuran
Apr 21, 2011
A few questions about this topic: Receiving D.C. as your first post. In what ways is it advantageous/disadvantageous? Would any of your 2nd/multiple tour guys have liked D.C. as your first post?

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

asuran posted:

A few questions about this topic: Receiving D.C. as your first post. In what ways is it advantageous/disadvantageous? Would any of your 2nd/multiple tour guys have liked D.C. as your first post?

Well you have a chance to make a lot of contacts which will help for assignments after your second... But you're in DC and could make it trickier for tenure as you'd be doing a 1/1 or 2 year consular gig w/ language if generalist and you'd be going to a hardship post. This also mans you'd be in DC for around 3 years before getting to your first post after lang training.

I personally would have hated being in DC for my first or second tour. Also you're probably going to be a fs5 or 4 which means a very tight budget unless you have a lot of money in the bank or a spouse with a good job.

asuran
Apr 21, 2011

TCD posted:

Well you have a chance to make a lot of contacts which will help for assignments after your second... But you're in DC and could make it trickier for tenure as you'd be doing a 1/1 or 2 year consular gig w/ language if generalist and you'd be going to a hardship post. This also mans you'd be in DC for around 3 years before getting to your first post after lang training.

I personally would have hated being in DC for my first or second tour. Also you're probably going to be a fs5 or 4 which means a very tight budget unless you have a lot of money in the bank or a spouse with a good job.

The tight budget makes sense. No housing paid if posted in D.C., correct? I am an IMS as well. Just planning for all scenarios.

How is your new post?

BTW, do specialists HAVE to take the language test at FSI if they claimed 2 or above on a language on the application? I speak two foreign languages but would rather take the test for one only if it helps lead to a geographic preference.

asuran fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Jul 5, 2011

1of7
Jan 30, 2011
I'm sure someone will correct me if this is wrong, but I was told there are no domestic entry level IMS positions.

Leif.
Mar 27, 2005

Son of the Defender
Formerly Diplomaticus/SWATJester

AKA Pseudonym posted:

Congrats TCD! And good luck on tenure even though I'm sure you'll get it.

I actually had a good time with our 4th party. We had a western theme so they had us IPC guys set up two working telegraph stations so people could send messages back and forth, or just tap at it and get a response from the other side. We actually procured turn of the century telegraph equipment and manuals. Showing it off was kind of fun.

Whoa that's rad. My 4th was pretty cool. I spent about an hour or so opening doors for people and saying "Good evening sir/ma'am" and then went in and mingled, met with a bunch of my contacts, met a bunch of foreign ministers, etc. Unfortunately I forgot to eat, so I missed out on the food other than two little canapes which were yummy.

asuran posted:

A few questions about this topic: Receiving D.C. as your first post. In what ways is it advantageous/disadvantageous? Would any of your 2nd/multiple tour guys have liked D.C. as your first post?

Disadvantage: The pay is nowhere near as good. You don't get per diem, and you're paying DC prices for things. Also no COLA. Does not help you achieve tenure. You start literally immediately after A-100 ends (it'll end Friday, you start work on Monday).

Advantage: You're probably working as a desk officer for a country, or in one of the functional bureaus doing something there. Example: one of my classmates from A-100 is a desk officer for another country here in Africa. She gets lots of contacts literally dropped right onto her desk, and it builds quite a bit of relationships and networking immediately. Also, if you want to be in DC, then there's that.

TCD posted:

Well you have a chance to make a lot of contacts which will help for assignments after your second... But you're in DC and could make it trickier for tenure as you'd be doing a 1/1 or 2 year consular gig w/ language if generalist and you'd be going to a hardship post. This also mans you'd be in DC for around 3 years before getting to your first post after lang training.

I personally would have hated being in DC for my first or second tour. Also you're probably going to be a fs5 or 4 which means a very tight budget unless you have a lot of money in the bank or a spouse with a good job.


DC Generalist tours are 1 year (as far as I'm aware), and Con Gen + language is basically 8-12 months. So 2 years. Also you can start bidding very soon after starting, which is nice, lets you line up the next position.

But yeah, I wouldn't want to do it.

-e- Oh you're IMS. I have no idea how it works for you. I don't even think you guys have entry level posts.

Leif. fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Jul 5, 2011

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope

asuran posted:

The tight budget makes sense. No housing paid if posted in D.C., correct? I am an IMS as well. Just planning for all scenarios.

How is your new post?

BTW, do specialists HAVE to take the language test at FSI if they claimed 2 or above on a language on the application? I speak two foreign languages but would rather take the test for one only if it helps lead to a geographic preference.

You won't have to worry about DC as your first post then. Only DS people and IMTSs are posted domestically for their first tour.

I don't beleive your obliged to test in a language unless your going to a language designated position, which is unlikely as an IMS.

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



I'm still in school and at least 2 years away from even taking the FSOT exam, but I just got done reading "Career Diplomacy" and I'd like to continue doing as much independent research and reading pertaining to the job and lifestyle as I can.

Are there any other books that those working in the FS or have taken the exam would recommend?

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer
I just submitted the application for the FSOT test later this year. I chose the consulate track. It's a couple months off so I'll probably look into studying for the test later.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
Unless your background is in political science or history, you should probably start studying by reading the New York Times and a couple history for dummies books.

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100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Unless your background is in political science or history, you should probably start studying by reading the New York Times and a couple history for dummies books.
It is not, so I will take this to heart. It never hurts to learn. Any specific place I should start?

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