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I doubt it. I'm sure Dodge branding on the front will really clash with the nice Alfa styling in the back.
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Throatwarbler posted:The new Alfa derived Dodge Caliber is almost done. It appears to be very, very similar to the Giulietta: http://www.google.fi/search?q=alfa giulietta&tbm=isch
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Faerunner posted:That might actually be attractive. Agreed. I'm digging the rear quarterpanels for some reason. Of course, being a Caliber, it's going to have a poo poo engine and poo poo handling (but a refrigerated glovebox!) so we'll see. I'm still baffled that this is Chrysler's "small car" that replaced the neon.
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I refuse to believe that Chrysler will not gently caress this up somehow but if they don't, this will be one sexy ride.
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kimbo305 posted:I doubt it. I'm sure Dodge branding on the front will really clash with the nice Alfa styling in the back. Pretty much this. Goddamn Crosshair.
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It looks like the stock Alfa headlights so it'd mainly consist of swapping for an Alfa bumper to make it look decent again.
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http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2011/06/story-reveals-new-engine-info There will likely be a new 2.4l engine. Since the Hyundai version of the engine already puts out 200hp, the Chrysler version with Multiair should be good for more.
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http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/258004/ Finally. I've been waiting for a long time to see a manufacture add another gear to a manual. I mean, we have lockouts for reverse, what's stopping them from adding a lockout cruise gear? Horay for more manual shifting! 
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Ziploc posted:Finally. I've been waiting for a long time to see a manufacture add another gear to a manual. "The PDK double clutch auto has been sharpened up again but it is the manual that might be introduced that breaks new ground. In effect it is a manually controlled single clutch version of PDK which means, for the first time in any manual production car I can think of, seven forward speeds." What the devil?  Porsche, you crazy crazy Germans!
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KozmoNaut posted:"The PDK double clutch auto has been sharpened up again but it is the manual that might be introduced that breaks new ground. In effect it is a manually controlled single clutch version of PDK which means, for the first time in any manual production car I can think of, seven forward speeds." Huh. Makes sense I suppose. A dual clutch is in effect just an electronically actuated manual gearbox, turning it into a manual would be a simple case of stripping out the extra clutch and whatnot. I wonder if with the widespread adoption of the 7 speed dual clutch, 7 speed manuals will become the norm on future economy cars too?
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Throatwarbler posted:Huh. Makes sense I suppose. A dual clutch is in effect just an electronically actuated manual gearbox, turning it into a manual would be a simple case of stripping out the extra clutch and whatnot. I wonder if with the widespread adoption of the 7 speed dual clutch, 7 speed manuals will become the norm on future economy cars too? Probably in 10-15 years time. Most economy cars don't even have 6-speeds yet. I wonder how the shifter pattern will be or if it will be sequential?
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http://media.gm.com/content/media/us/en/gm/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2011/Mar/0311_captiva The Saturn Vue is coming back as a fleet only vehicle.  quote:DETROIT – Chevrolet will introduce the Captiva Sport, a new entry to the U.S market, later this year to help satisfy growing demand for compact crossovers by fleet customers. The Captiva Sport is a variant of the globally successful Chevrolet Captiva compact crossover.
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KozmoNaut posted:I wonder how the shifter pattern will be or if it will be sequential? You could do it with a dogleg 1st with reverse in the same gate and have 6-7 share one.
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Muffinpox posted:You could do it with a dogleg 1st with reverse in the same gate and have 6-7 share one. Perhaps I'm just tired, but can you draw this for the  among us?
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Throatwarbler posted:Huh. Makes sense I suppose. A dual clutch is in effect just an electronically actuated manual gearbox, turning it into a manual would be a simple case of stripping out the extra clutch and whatnot. I wonder if with the widespread adoption of the 7 speed dual clutch, 7 speed manuals will become the norm on future economy cars too? The old Focus SVT tranny had twin lay shafts, but it only had 6 gears. So the idea of packaging things that way isn't unheard of, I guess. I dunno about going to 7 gears for economy cars, though. If cheap cars are supposed to be cheap and dull commuter vehicles, I feel like not many of the buyers will be clamoring for another gear to row. The idea of putting in an even smaller motor mated to a very narrowly spaced truck-like 10 gear amuses me, though.
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KozmoNaut posted:Perhaps I'm just tired, but can you draw this for the R 2 4 6 |-|-|-| 1 3 5 7
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KozmoNaut posted:Perhaps I'm just tired, but can you draw this for the code:
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Q_res posted:R 2 4 6 Well, that was my first thought as well, but wouldn't that cause issues with the stick stick effectively being centered between the two center gates? Or are you proposing a lockout similar to BMW's and VAG's gearboxes?
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KozmoNaut posted:Well, that was my first thought as well, but wouldn't that cause issues with the stick stick effectively being centered between the two center gates? I used to drive an 8 speed (with reverse) international fuel truck that was set up with a dog leg reverse and everything else as you'd expect (on 4 more gates). Yes, no sports car, but you really do get used to it. It's a bitch when you first start driving, but with the right detents and centering spring pressure, anyone who is serious about driving will get proficient quickly.
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Motronic posted:
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Q_res posted:He said dogleg first, so it would be at the bottom. Ohwwww.. Yeah, you're right. But 1st on the bottom is so......unnatural.
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No matter how they do it, I can't wait to see Jeremy Clarkson's reaction to it.
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I expected 7th and reverse to hide on the right behind the same lockout. If it is the PDK trans, I'm assuming they are removing the dual-input shaft nature of it too. Still, can't wait for the details.
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KozmoNaut posted:Or are you proposing a lockout similar to BMW's and VAG's gearboxes? You could probably center on the 4-5 gate and have a lockout for 1st above whatever mph exceeds 1st gear red line. 1-2 would still be a weird shift. I could also see a sequential, then they could use the pdk gear indicator reverse engagement mechanism (button) and not have to deal with making two different clusters. Muffinpox fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jun 30, 2011 |
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Why not justcode:Or, more likely code:
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Frankly, I like Reverse being out on it's own. But that's probably a bias born from habit.
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Q_res posted:Frankly, I like Reverse being out on it's own. But that's probably a bias born from habit. I also like the idea of first being left and down, since I'm used to driving a truck with granny low, so I start in second. Having first in a car there would be neat.
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Hopefully they'll carry over the VAG tradition of having the driver push the lever down to engage reverse. Otherwise I can see things going wrong pretty drat quick.
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They should have hi-lo like a 9 speed.code:Powershift fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Jul 1, 2011 |
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Powershift posted:They should have hi-lo like a 9 speed. I think direct access would better serve a sports car.
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Powershift posted:They should have hi-lo like a 9 speed. How much of your life have you wasted paddling a Fuller 8LL? I'm guessing either none at all, or a ton more than I have. No other options could explain that opinion.
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Motronic posted:How much of your life have you wasted paddling a Fuller 8LL? I'm guessing either none at all, or a ton more than I have. No other options could explain that opinion. All of my driving time was spent on 18 speeds, eaton-fuller or mack, a hi-lo transmission would really seperate the men from the boys. edit: also, they should add a splitter and make it a 14 speed Powershift fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Jul 1, 2011 |
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ehnus posted:
Total classic.
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To be fair, it was a response to what was perceived to be a conspiracy against the world order: code:
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Powershift posted:All of my driving time was spent on 18 speeds, eaton-fuller or mack, a hi-lo transmission would really seperate the men from the boys. Fair enough. So way more (same idea anyway - I just always drove local runs with triaxles and the like so no 18 speeds for me). I used to prefer my 1971 DM 2-stick slope hood. We called it "slowpoke", and yes, it was positive ground.
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What's the wear rate on sequential gear boxes in cars? Because I think your average person is terrified of the clutch and would be much more likely to learn a different way of shifting on a sequential.
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Russian Bear posted:What's the wear rate on sequential gear boxes in cars? Because I think your average person is terrified of the clutch and would be much more likely to learn a different way of shifting on a sequential. The hardest part of working a clutch is getting going from a standstill and you still need the clutch for getting a sequential gearbox going.. Unless you do something like the Ferrari e-gear or BMW SMG, but those are automated manual gearboxes, not real sequentials like in a WRC car or motorcycle.
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Possible Cadillac ATS chassis spotted: http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f70/cadillac-ats-gms-website-103900/
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