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Defiance Industries posted:drat, then the mystery is on! I think it's been said before that the clanners had been figting for a while with the comguards on-planet.
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what we need are some contests so we can "help"* the crabguard *more likely horribly horribly maim the crabguard and any chance they have of winning.
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AtomikKrab posted:what we need are some contests so we can "help"* the crabguard I have a spare copy of Terraria from a 4-pack I bought a while ago. I'll offer it to the first crab who gets a headshot that results in a wounded or dead clanner.
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AtomikKrab posted:what we need are some contests so we can "help"* the crabguard If you win the contest you replace the Elementals of Hell's Horses with the 3090-era Svartalfa Superheavy Protomech. TRO: Prototypes just came out and it has some amazing (read: hilarious) designs, like the aformentioned Superheavy proto. It masses 14 tons, has a Streak SRM 6 with 10 shots and 2 Medium Chem Lasers (IS Medium lasers which use ammo but don't require heatsinks on vehicles/protos/conventional fighters) and 15 shots for those. It can take a heavy gauss rifle and keep fighting. And... well:  No, there's no mistake, it's a Protomech LAM that flies 4/6. On the previous topic of Donars, assuming 3/4 vehicle crews and them sticking at long range they're not that dangerous unless they get lucky or there's a whole bunch of them. Of course, Clans tend to deploy by Stars, so you'd probably end up with 10 VTOLs dropping on your rear end... do we have any air or armor support? ComGuard is a combined-arms force par excellence after all.
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If there's a no-heat medium laser, what's the point of the AC-5?
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raverrn posted:If there's a no-heat medium laser, what's the point of the AC-5? Twice the range?
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raverrn posted:If there's a no-heat medium laser, what's the point of the AC-5? The Chem Lasers are Clan weapons (specifically, Clan Hell's Horses because no other Clan gives a poo poo about their tanks). The IS doesn't get them. Their superiority to the AC-5 is kind of expected.
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Jul 5, 2011 21:02
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MJ12 posted:That is gundam as gently caress.
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PoptartsNinja posted:cough cough, ahem, cough cough. Longinus00 posted:There is a perfectly good use for that design, it just involves charging at max speed toward an enemies rear. KnoxZone posted:It is a shame you guys have already broken Zel. It could have been an effective ace to keep in pocket until you had clean shots on one mech.
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Jul 5, 2011 22:00
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Mr. Despair posted:That is gundam as gently caress. A lot of the later designs went that way. Check out the Phoenix Hawk IIC. And of course, all the original designs until CityTech were So it's always been an anime influenced game, it just varies how much so. During the heyday, they did a decent job designing their own 'mechs. The original TR 3025 and 3050 designs weren't too bad, though there was always some stinkers in every generation. The hyper-anime style of the IIC Unseen 'mechs in 3055 is really where it started to go downhill for me, and there have been fewer and fewer designs that I like the look of in every subsequent book. Maybe it's just the art style, but too many of the newer designs just look ugly, regardless of their battlefield efficacy.
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That Phoenix Hawk IIC is posing for a MercSpace photo. It's trying to look like a 65 ton heavy but it's not fooling anybody. Also it's completely out of proportion and anime as gently caress. I think the Timber Wolf and Awesome are the epitome of what mechs should look like as opposed to gundams. No particular adherence to the humanoid form, no hands, no retarded samurai helmet. I still think mechs having hands at all is a bit stupid. Think of how expensive that kind of joint configuration must be! And don't tell me about close combat, a hand is like the worst close combat weapon possible. What are they picking up anyway that's designed for a totally non-standardized array of hands of various designs and wildly different sizes?
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Arglebargle III posted:I still think mechs having hands at all is a bit stupid. Think of how expensive that kind of joint configuration must be! And don't tell me about close combat, a hand is like the worst close combat weapon possible. What are they picking up anyway that's designed for a totally non-standardized array of hands of various designs and wildly different sizes? Don't forget that some of these hands are nestled amidst a mess of weaponry mounted on the arm. Won't all those gun barrels get damaged and dented when you start a mech barroom brawl? (I understand there's some damage rules for arms without manipulators, but does having hands magically protect the rest of the poo poo on the arm from being damaged?) MW2 was one of those games I grew up with. Never played it very well, but loved reading the manual to bits. Always thought the Timber Wolf/Mad Cat was the most amazing mech ever. With age however, I found the rest of the Battletech designs, a lot of them are seriously  . The series can't seem to pin a design aesthetic down, sometimes it feels like it wants to be Gundam (where your robots essentially behave like giant humans) and sometimes it wants to be more "realistic" and go on with the proper walking tank look. Not to mention that the vast majority of the designs are just horrible to look at.If only every 'mech was designed like a Mad Cat, Catapult or Vulture... (N.B everything I said is merely about how the drat things look, I give no fucks about game value). Also scored a couple of these guys on eBay:  Being a fan of the thread (random rant about ugly mechs notwithstanding), I want to paint one in honour of the Crabguard, any suggestions for colour schemes?
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Arglebargle III posted:I still think mechs having hands at all is a bit stupid. Think of how expensive that kind of joint configuration must be! And don't tell me about close combat, a hand is like the worst close combat weapon possible. What are they picking up anyway that's designed for a totally non-standardized array of hands of various designs and wildly different sizes? The theory is that hands make Mechs useful for non-shooty things, such as construction, logistics, and disaster relief. This was especially important during the Third Succession War, where there was a whole lot of sitting around on a specific world, and one would inevitably put down roots, e'en through the generations.
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Arglebargle III posted:What are they picking up anyway that's designed for a totally non-standardized array of hands of various designs and wildly different sizes? Tanks, people and other things that go squish when you squeeze.
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Jul 6, 2011 00:08
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Z the IVth posted:
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Trast posted:Zoidberg Red. It's a Crab, of the CrabGuard. CrabGuard is white with stripes. So white with Zoidberg Red stripes?
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MJ12 posted:It's a Crab, of the CrabGuard. CrabGuard is white with stripes. So white with Zoidberg Red stripes? He could go the Maryland route, put some glue on it, and sprinkle on some Old Bay.
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jng2058 posted:The hyper-anime style of the IIC Unseen 'mechs in 3055 is really where it started to go downhill for me Arglebargle III posted:What are they picking up anyway that's designed for a totally non-standardized array of hands of various designs and wildly different sizes? Z the IVth posted:Also scored a couple of these guys on eBay: With sunglasses painted on 
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Z the IVth posted:
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The Merry Marauder posted:The theory is that hands make Mechs useful for non-shooty things, such as construction, logistics, and disaster relief. This was especially important during the Third Succession War, where there was a whole lot of sitting around on a specific world, and one would inevitably put down roots, e'en through the generations. Also keep in mind that before there were Battlemechs there were Industrial Mechs so it's possible some of them had hands as well for things like handling girders.
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Arquinsiel posted:Random poo poo. Mechs have hands partially because the original fluff often had the mission objective be "go to this planet and grab all their kegs of water". Hand Actuators, a fine investment. 
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Hand Actuators, a fine investment. They can also help you get up. 
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Also whomping someone with the casing of a gun barrel is nowhere near as satisfying as pressing the "make fist" button on the dashboard first.
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Hand Actuators, a fine investment. That is the worst Jacob's Ladder ever. It's like he wasn't even trying. 
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W.T. Fits posted:That is the worst Jacob's Ladder ever. It's like he wasn't even trying. I'm more worried by the fact that that 'mech appears to have wood than that its arms have been used to string up clotheslines and dry laundry. [edit] The fact that it appears to have an ERLL with a bright yellow glans penis as an emitter "head" is especially
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ShadowDragon8685 posted:I'm more worried by the fact that that 'mech appears to have wood than that its arms have been used to string up clotheslines and dry laundry. It's a Gundam, and a stupidly designed one at that.
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And that is some lazy goddamned laundry-art there. What are they washing, 24 sets of identical white tablecloths?
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ShadowDragon8685 posted:I'm more worried by the fact that that 'mech appears to have wood than that its arms have been used to string up clotheslines and dry laundry. Believe it or not... that's actually the cockpit. 
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Leperflesh posted:And that is some lazy goddamned laundry-art there. What are they washing, 24 sets of identical white tablecloths? That's... Not actually impossible. Just highly unlikely. W.T. Fits posted:Believe it or not... that's actually the cockpit. Please. I'm a fan of Zone of the Enders. Orbital Frames really put the cock in cockpit.
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Leperflesh posted:And that is some lazy goddamned laundry-art there. What are they washing, 24 sets of identical white tablecloths? bedsheets, its some form of inn or something
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elitebuster posted:It's a Gundam, and a stupidly designed one at that. Don't diss the 'stache, man. But seriously I do like Turn A Gundam's mobile suit art direction the most out of the entire franchise. I think it looks distinctive and bucks the trend against the rest of the Gundams which, a few outliers aside, start to blend together into a samey mass after a while. Though this case of unpopular and idiosyncratic personal taste is also why I try not to judge the derpier 'Mech designs.
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AtomikKrab posted:bedsheets, its some form of inn or something Even if it's a derail of sorts, it's bed sheets from a field hospital in specific. They were all covered in blood and the such and the pilot ended up using the hands as agitators for a big stonkin' washing machine (re: gouged out the side of a river) and then hung them up to dry. Turn-A Gundam has the machine put into a lot of odd uses that take advantage of its particularly fine-tuned hand manipulators.
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ShadowDragon8685 posted:Please. I'm a fan of Zone of the Enders. Orbital Frames really put the cock in cockpit. But do theirs eject in an emergency?
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Well, the AI in one of them begins the process to eject it in the first game before the protagonist tells it not to. So, while we don't see it do so, yes. Orbital Frames can eject their cockpit if the need arises. Of course, you mostly fight unmanned frames and if you lose yours it is a game over so this concept really doesn't come into play at all.
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So, I was out of town last week and happened by a wonderfully overstuffed used bookstore in Kalispell, Montana, little knowing the horrors that awaited time. I feel the circa-2004 cell phone quality only adds to the unearthliness of the sight.   While I considered purchasing the novel to cleanse it from the world, I decided that it was not within my power to trifle with such a terrible artifact. I hope that being abandoned under a pile of Honor Harrington novels to be forgotten for all eternity will be enough to keep Far Country hidden from an unsuspecting world.
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^^^^ I kind of want to get you to go back and buy it for me..... ShadowDragon8685 posted:Please. I'm a fan of Zone of the Enders. Orbital Frames really put the cock in cockpit.
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Octatonic posted:Kalispell, Montana Ah, Kalispell... so close to my home town, yet trapped perpetually in the year 1988. Fakeedit: Update soon, just got the orders from the last player.
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Arquinsiel posted:^^^^ And how it only opens up if you put your hands on it. Wait...how do people get into mechs and wanzers anyway? I never really figured it out.
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Battletech mechs tend to have pop-open cockpits on a lot of them similar to the canopies of modern fighter jets. The larger ones sometimes end up with a hatch like a tank would have instead.
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