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Mr. Carlisle posted:They don't push guys because they aren't selling merch but the guys don't sell merch because they never get pushed. iirc When London and Kendrick were tag champs they weren't selling any merch. At least that was the claim in their highspots shoot.
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Trollologist posted:iirc When London and Kendrick were tag champs they weren't selling any merch. At least that was the claim in their highspots shoot. I don't even think there was any London and Kendrick merch to be sold.
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Jul 11, 2011 09:32
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TL posted:I don't even think there was any London and Kendrick merch to be sold. They eventually got a t-shirt late in the game including their Hooligan saying, "We're here but we're not all there". Where the WWE goofed is that cheap versions of their Mortal Kombat masks would have sold HUGE to kids and it took Vince a near year to realize they were wearing them and then told them to stop it.
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Jul 11, 2011 11:48
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I read something a while back about an incident involving Buff Bagwell getting his arse handed to him in the dressing room one night by a group of guys when he joined the WWE. I recently watched a shoot interview with him and there was no mention of it but a few times during said interview Bagwell was uncomfortable with certain questions and never answered them, so I'm wondering if anyone else has heard anything about this and who was involved ?
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El Patron posted:I read something a while back about an incident involving Buff Bagwell getting his arse handed to him in the dressing room one night by a group of guys when he joined the WWE. I believe he got into an altercation with Helms at a gym while the other wrestlers he just didn't mesh with at all. He also faked an injury and his mother called WWF offices to tell them it was real, all the while he avoided doctors.
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Jul 11, 2011 12:11
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former title contender Judy Bagwell's integrity is beyond reproach
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Jul 11, 2011 12:13
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Lone Rogue posted:I believe he got into an altercation with Helms at a gym while the other wrestlers he just didn't mesh with at all. He also faked an injury and his mother called WWF offices to tell them it was real, all the while he avoided doctors. He mentions that in the shoot interview, I'm pretty sure Helms was nursing an injury with a bag of ice or something when they both got into an argument, Bagwell claims he turned away and Helms launched it at him and it split the back of his head open.
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Jul 11, 2011 12:26
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At the time I entirely blamed Bagwell but these days, seeing how those Carolina boys are huge stupid rednecks, I guess I'll blame both.
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That why I don't tend to take those sort of stories to heart and use them to form opinions of guys. It usually comes down to you pinning the blame on the guy you like less and think is more of an rear end in a top hat. But as time goes on it just seems clearer than 9 out of 10 guys are just as bad as the next.
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Jul 11, 2011 13:56
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El Patron posted:He mentions that in the shoot interview, I'm pretty sure Helms was nursing an injury with a bag of ice or something when they both got into an argument, Bagwell claims he turned away and Helms launched it at him and it split the back of his head open.
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Jul 11, 2011 16:10
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Reading a boring Q&A with Diana Hart, this made me laughquote:MaryM: In your younger days, if you could have been involved in women's wrestling as it is today, would you?
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Jul 11, 2011 16:41
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What are some stories of Austin Aries being a huge jerk outside of the ring, like to fans.
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KungFu Grip posted:What are some stories of Austin Aries being a huge jerk outside of the ring, like to fans. i don't know any specifics but there's stories about people congratulating him after a match if they see him after the show, "great match" that kind of poo poo and he'll be like "how do you know its a great match?" and interrogate the guy about it or something. he's real weird
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Jul 11, 2011 22:14
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How did certain moves get named? For example Russian leg sweep or german suplex. I know some are named from gimmicks of the wrestlers but those two always make me think. Also, was Jerry Lynn and RVD the originators of the famed 'indy standoff' spot?
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Jul 11, 2011 22:26
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MisterGBH posted:=Also, was Jerry Lynn and RVD the originators of the famed 'indy standoff' spot? It's been in wrestling for a long time. It was never an indie thing, it's just the indies over did it.
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Jul 11, 2011 22:30
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MisterGBH posted:How did certain moves get named? For example Russian leg sweep or german suplex. I know some are named from gimmicks of the wrestlers but those two always make me think. The German suplex is related to Karl Gotch in some way, whether he created it or popularised it to the point it became "his" I dunno. Odd what with him being Belgian but I guess a Belgian suplex sounds a bit boring.
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Jul 11, 2011 22:36
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Lone Rogue posted:It's been in wrestling for a long time. It was never an indie thing, it's just the indies over did it. And then they perfected it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JMeKSjBYQY&feature=related
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Jul 11, 2011 22:48
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KungFu Grip posted:What are some stories of Austin Aries being a huge jerk outside of the ring, like to fans. I decided to google search it and found TJ Perkins formspring, who says "Im not sure i should touch that one". The boys don't even like him! I still love him e: I know he doesn't shake hands with fans ChampRamp fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jul 11, 2011 |
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KungFu Grip posted:What are some stories of Austin Aries being a huge jerk outside of the ring, like to fans. There was the documentary of an ROH security guard and these two idiot fans were mad at Aries and confronted him after the show. Aries knocked them right the lovin' out.
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Jul 11, 2011 23:13
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Moose Bigelow posted:There was the documentary of an ROH security guard and these two idiot fans were mad at Aries and confronted him after the show. Aries knocked them right the lovin' out. If by documentary you mean staged, scripted "reality" show for TruTV, sure.
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El Duke posted:If by documentary you mean staged, scripted "reality" show for TruTV, sure. Actuality 
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Jul 11, 2011 23:42
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One time I was yelling at Austin Aries as he came to the ring, then he stopped, looked at me and kicked the steel railing in front of me. It was alarming. He is a brute 
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Jul 11, 2011 23:44
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He kicked the railing because he couldn't see over it and didn't know you were there. He thought the railing was yelling at him. Also, he is short.
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The Shaman of Cum posted:i don't know any specifics but there's stories about people congratulating him after a match if they see him after the show, "great match" that kind of poo poo and he'll be like "how do you know its a great match?" and interrogate the guy about it or something. he's real weird A year or two ago after the Wrestlemania weekend shows, Bryan Alvarez was out at a bar with a lot of the ROH guys. He approached Aries who I think was drunk, telling him how much he enjoyed his match, and Aries starting being a dick to him saying "What makes you think you can judge matches?" and stuff like that.
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Jul 12, 2011 00:32
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Perigryn posted:It was a bottle of frozen water, I think. Speaking of, why do people hate on the hurricane so much? I just think the gimmick is goofy and spices up an otherwise unremarkable midcarder. Plus, I dig his theme. It's all just so goofy.
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LordPants posted:Speaking of, why do people hate on the hurricane so much? I just think the gimmick is goofy and spices up an otherwise unremarkable midcarder. He used to be fun. Then he came back as gritty 90s reboot Hurricane and was fat and lovely.
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Jul 12, 2011 00:41
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Grant DaNasty posted:A year or two ago after the Wrestlemania weekend shows, Bryan Alvarez was out at a bar with a lot of the ROH guys. He approached Aries who I think was drunk, telling him how much he enjoyed his match, and Aries starting being a dick to him saying "What makes you think you can judge matches?" and stuff like that.
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:He used to be fun. Then he came back as gritty 90s reboot Hurricane and was fat and lovely. That and he kind of ruined himself for everyone when he revealed how much of an rear end in a top hat he is on Twitter.
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Hirams Bitch posted:He kicked the railing because he couldn't see over it and didn't know you were there. He thought the railing was yelling at him. Well in that case, he's a sweetheart and has never wronged me. That railing had it coming.
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If Aries does that, that's not only rude, but dumb. Guy has to learn to take a compliment and learn that it's possible to critique something intelligently without having to do it professionally.
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Satire Forum Mom posted:If Aries does that, that's not only rude, but dumb. Guy has to learn to take a compliment and learn that it's possible to critique something intelligently without having to do it professionally. He apparently was completely trashed, for what it's worth.
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I like the idea of heels ensuring that fans can't compliment them, but I'm old school like that.
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LordPants posted:Speaking of, why do people hate on the hurricane so much? I just think the gimmick is goofy and spices up an otherwise unremarkable midcarder.
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Also when he wrestles on the indies, much like Matt Hardy, his style becomes very Firepro-ish, busting out every Japanese move he can think of. Helms lacks psychology.
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Lone Rogue posted:I like the idea of heels ensuring that fans can't compliment them, but I'm old school like that. I'm with you here. And so what if he IS a dick? Some people are, some people aren't. He's awesome at his job, so I don't need to like him in real life. If he really is an rear end in a top hat, he'd be like the reverse John Cena - awesome in the ring, not so much in real life.
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 I came across this which is probably just a road photo circa 1996. Who is the guy above Paul Bearer and next to HBK? And who is the guy above Triple H next to Nash?
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Jul 12, 2011 16:26
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Bearnt! posted:
Waltman and Henry Godwin I think.
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Phenix Rising posted:I'm with you here. And so what if he IS a dick? Some people are, some people aren't. He's awesome at his job, so I don't need to like him in real life. If he really is an rear end in a top hat, he'd be like the reverse John Cena - awesome in the ring, not so much in real life. This isn't 1995, so being a complete dick can kill your career mobility.
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Bearnt! posted:
I loving love this picture. It's so much fun looking at Paul Bearer apparently getting drunk with Gerald Brisco, Triple H looking a little awkward, and Undertaker being dead-center (heh) in the back looking like a bad-rear end. I keep forgetting, is that guy next to the Undertaker Jim Neidhart?
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Grendels Dad posted:I loving love this picture. It's so much fun looking at Paul Bearer apparently getting drunk with Gerald Brisco, Triple H looking a little awkward, and Undertaker being dead-center (heh) in the back looking like a bad-rear end.
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