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AltronHGX posted:I'm pretty sure it had a lot more to do with his father and him realizing he's outlived him. That sounds like something that could be worked out in therapy though. And way much more so than an attempt on your own life, psychologically speaking. And I'm no psycholologist.
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Artie was never going to therapy. Statistically, the biggest motivator for drug addicts to try to make major changes in their lives and try to get clean, it's hitting rock bottom and having a near death experience- which Artie definitely did. He looks and sounds a million times better so who knows, he probably is trying now 
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As a former heroin addict myself I can say that you guys are completely wrong. I know exactly what place here was in when it happened. The junk is the worst poo poo ever to kick. You would honestly rather die that go through the withdrawals. It is seriously like your body is dying while you are still alive. I have gone through it a couple of times in my life and I have seriously considered stabbing myself to death just to end the torment. After a certain point you don't want to be on it anymore but for various reasons you just can't. I am sure that was were Artie was. Couple that with his family issues, work and you have a bad place to be in. It sounds like the help he is getting is doing the trick. Hopefully it sticks and he slowly reemerges in showbiz. Last thing he needs is to go back on the road and get back into that lifestyle. And as much as I love the show it is seriously not the place for someone like Artie anymore.
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Jul 10, 2011 21:50
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The show contributed heavily to Artie's rock bottom plunge, and Howard knows it. His behavior was glorified and encouraged, which only gave Artie positive enforcement. After 30 years of exploitation, this is the one time Howard actually feels guilty about it. That's why he hasn't been back, and that's why Howard will probably never feel comfortable putting him back in the chair. This doesn't even address the dangers of taking an addict and putting him in a position where he has to get up at 4 a.m. every morning. It doesn't fit. Artie sounded happy and healthy on the Fox show. I think an afternoon slot talking sports would be perfect for him. Let him do the guest spot on Stern to close that book, but speaking as a huge fan, I hope he never, ever permanently returns to the show. It's poison.
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Jul 10, 2011 22:33
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RoughDraft2.0 posted:
But don't you see? Fans expect the show the be on for morning drive because the only time people can listen is while in their car. Cutting the show back to 3 days out of 7 just makes more sense.
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Jul 10, 2011 22:42
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Djarum posted:As a former heroin addict myself I can say that you guys are completely wrong. Artie attempted suicide once, years before he ever started heroin. Drugs were just one aspect of his fifty problems. He managed to work for a long time on cocaine and heroin, plus he was taking subutex to help with withdrawals. I'm guessing he was let go from Sirius at the end of 2009, or at least given a leave of absence to get his poo poo together, and that had a lot to do with his state of mind. But no one really knows but Artie. The story should sell a lot of books.
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Jul 10, 2011 23:56
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Vakal posted:But don't you see? Fans expect the show the be on for morning drive because the only time people can listen is while in their car. I never really understood once Howard moved to Satellite why he didn't change the shows start time to like 8. The show replays all day anyway. Make everyone's lives more enjoyable. It can not be that fun waking up at 4AM everyday. I don't care if you are use to it or not.
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Just a reminder but Artie looked like this on his last few days of the show. 
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Jimmy Kimmel: Eric, haven't you ever thought about coming and seeing New York and visiting the studio? Howard: We've offered it to him. Kimmel: Uh-huh. And you say no, Eric? Eric the Midget: I'm--not that--not exactly, no. You know, I--I would do it, you know, if the right opportunity came... Artie: Haven't you ever wanted to come to New York and see the bottom 20 inches of every building?
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Jul 11, 2011 01:17
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Jul 11, 2011 02:22
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Burden posted:I never really understood once Howard moved to Satellite why he didn't change the shows start time to like 8. The show replays all day anyway. Make everyone's lives more enjoyable. It can not be that fun waking up at 4AM everyday. I don't care if you are use to it or not.
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To the guy who keeps recommending the Joe Rogan podcast: I religiously listen to the Fitzsimmons and Adam Carolla podcasts and can't bring myself to listen to Rogan because of his idiotic "we never landed on the moon" drugged out conspiracy theory horseshit. Mind you, I skip Carolla when he starts gets into his political rants. I don't need millionaires living in rich first world countries telling me "how it is".
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lynch_69 posted:To the guy who keeps recommending the Joe Rogan podcast: I religiously listen to the Fitzsimmons and Adam Carolla podcasts and can't bring myself to listen to Rogan because of his idiotic "we never landed on the moon" drugged out conspiracy theory horseshit. Mind you, I skip Carolla when he starts gets into his political rants. I don't need millionaires living in rich first world countries telling me "how it is". His wife's podcast is even more off base. "How to raise two kids with no job, several million in the bank, and a nanny."
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lynch_69 posted:To the guy who keeps recommending the Joe Rogan podcast: I religiously listen to the Fitzsimmons and Adam Carolla podcasts and can't bring myself to listen to Rogan because of his idiotic "we never landed on the moon" drugged out conspiracy theory horseshit. Mind you, I skip Carolla when he starts gets into his political rants. I don't need millionaires living in rich first world countries telling me "how it is". Do podcasts pay that much? Are those two millionaires? drat...
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lynch_69 posted:can't bring myself to listen to Rogan because of his idiotic "we never landed on the moon" drugged out conspiracy theory horseshit. Wasn't it someone on Bubba who said of Brent "There's nothing worse than a stoner who reads"? I say this as someone who mostly knows Bubba from these threads. I may be misremembering, misquoting, or misattributing.
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AxeManiac posted:Do podcasts pay that much? Are those two millionaires? drat... Are you joking or really don't know? Carolla had Loveline and The Man Show while Rogan does UFC commentary, Fear Factor, standup and other stuff. I wouldn't say either is exorbitantly rich but they're definitely well off and I have no doubt their net worth is at least 7 figures.
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Crotch Bat posted:Are you joking or really don't know? Carolla had Loveline and The Man Show while Rogan does UFC commentary, Fear Factor, standup and other stuff. I wouldn't say either is exorbitantly rich but they're definitely well off and I have no doubt their net worth is at least 7 figures. I'd imagine they are still pretty low on the pay scale, they are doing pod casts after all. There is some money in it, but poo poo, they say on their own sites they get paid poo poo. Loveline couldn't have paid poo poo, it was radio, Carolla talked about it constantly that they paid him and Drew nothing. The Man show was a basic cable show on a network known for low balling people, I figured they are both rich, sure, but not really like rich enough to make fun of them for it.
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AxeManiac posted:I'd imagine they are still pretty low on the pay scale, they are doing pod casts after all. There is some money in it, but poo poo, they say on their own sites they get paid poo poo. Rogan had two very lucrative network gigs, one of them ending up in syndication, plus he's a name so I'm sure he's getting some good bank for stand-up. Carolla had a very good radio contract with his own show (he was supposed to be the west coast replacement for Stern after all), not that it lasted very long. The lifestyle he enjoys does seem to be a bit above his pay grade though. Not Hollywood royalty, but wealthy nonetheless.
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Carolla has a massive multi-storey custom built garage filled with rare and expensive sports cars - Ferraris, Lamborghinis and all that poo poo. He brags about it all the time. He's not Howard Stern or Jay Leno wealthy, but he's easily a millionaire. Not that there's anything wrong with being wealthy, but he comes off as a disingenuous shitheel when he starts ranting about bootstraps and Mexicans. When Howard does it it's funny to laugh at how out of touch Old Man Stern is. When Carolla does it I just get angry. But other than that I love his podcast, he is a great interviewer and consistently makes me laugh.
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Crotch Bat posted:Are you joking or really don't know? Carolla had Loveline and The Man Show while Rogan does UFC commentary, Fear Factor, standup and other stuff. I wouldn't say either is exorbitantly rich but they're definitely well off and I have no doubt their net worth is at least 7 figures. Keep in mind though the fact that Rogan lit his career on fire and crashed it into Carlos Mencia's living room a while back. That put a pretty big dent in his earnings for a while. (Although, Fear Factor is coming back, either this fall or as a summer replacement. They're casting now.)
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AxeManiac posted:I'd imagine they are still pretty low on the pay scale, they are doing pod casts after all. There is some money in it, but poo poo, they say on their own sites they get paid poo poo Joe mostly views his podcast as a way of not doing morning radio shows at gigs around the country. He also routinely does 2-3 hour podcasts 2-3 times a week. Homeboy loves to talk, so I'm sure that plays into it as well.
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Rogan is also a huge Stern fan. But his podcast is very entertaining, especially if you enjoy crazy discussions. Rogan also isn't like a conspiracy nut, but views "both sides" or whatever. I see what he means about the moon landing, and he doesn't subscribe to it entirely. He may not be for a lot of people, but his podcast is probably my favorite. Also don't know how he would be hard up for cash considering his UFC gig (along with reusing his voice for reruns and such) has probably netted him as much money as his other TV gigs.
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Yeah, I really doubt sometimes if we landed on the Moon, because I like to look at both sides. Sometimes I look at creationism and feel the same way. Need Buzz Aldrin to punch him in the face.
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"I invented moon landings and conspiracies revolving around man not actually landing on the moon" -Howard Stern
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-Atom- posted:Joe mostly views his podcast as a way of not doing morning radio shows at gigs around the country. He also routinely does 2-3 hour podcasts 2-3 times a week. Homeboy loves to talk, so I'm sure that plays into it as well. Yup. To whoever was asking if podcasts pay good money, Joe Rogan literally started his podcasts for fun, it wasn't for 4-5 months down the line he got a sponsorship from Fleshflight. I don't know how Carolla's works but it sounds more "legit"- as in someone might be paying him (please correct me if I'm wrong), whereas Rogan's is absolutely 100% self produced. He bought all his equipment, he books all his guests, and his sidekick manpanion (that he's known for like 15 years) does all the technical stuff and behind the scenes stuff to get it recorded, online, etc.
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listening to the Eric the Midget clips where he blames Natalie Maines for those whores not loving him. Good poo poo, here's the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_nZnxT0kLg&NR=1 this is actually the second part, I'm listening to it now and feeling too lazy to link to the first. Great Midget poo poo though.
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chiz posted:listening to the Eric the Midget clips where he blames Natalie Maines for those whores not loving him. I started listening there and I'm to the point where Eric says he's going to butt gently caress Natalie Maines if she doesn't apologize. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH7S8jmpgSU I've laughed more from these handful of clips than a week of the current show 
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JOHNNY FRATTO IS A SVENGALI, HE'S A MASTER MANIPULATOR
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Streebs posted:I started listening there and I'm to the point where Eric says he's going to butt gently caress Natalie Maines if she doesn't apologize. I like to think that, in his darker moments, Eric the Midget tries to call Natalie up to 'apologize' so he can 'forgive her' and only get one hit single.
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sedative posted:Sour Shoes is on 101
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There was some show on Sunday afternoon on 101 that I've never heard of. Kagan? Nagan? Does anyone know?
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drat Beth has so much space in between her implants. Sure Howie, they've never been touched by a surgeon.
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FogHelmut posted:There was some show on Sunday afternoon on 101 that I've never heard of. Kagan? Nagan? Does anyone know? Abe Kanan or something like that. It's been on for a while now with no mention from anyone. I have no idea who he is.
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Jul 12, 2011 17:01
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What is that terrible music that Fred plays sometimes when Robin is talking? Sounds like a New Orleans funeral brass band or something.
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an adult beverage posted:What is that terrible music that Fred plays sometimes when Robin is talking? Sounds like a New Orleans funeral brass band or something. It's from the Easter procession/parade in Guatemala. It's a really big deal there.
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FogHelmut posted:It's from the Easter procession/parade in Guatemala. It's a really big deal there. No but there's a new one, isn't it some other wacked-out Robin thing from her last Ayahuasca-filled adventure musclecoder posted:Abe Kanan or something like that. It's been on for a while now with no mention from anyone. I have no idea who he is.
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