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Aeka 2.0 posted:I found out I'm expecting a child. So we need to replace our 2 door Civic with a "family car." My wife wants something with good gas mileage and a 4 cyl, sedan. My wife and I have a 2008 Passsat Wagon Turbo with a six speed manual in it that we bought new. It has a bit over 50,000 miles on it and has needed nothing but oil changes. Never even had a CEL come on. It consistently gets over 30mpg. I don't know how easy it will be to find an 08 with a manual though. The manual had to be special ordered from the factory. They seem to eat a little oil so you need to keep an eye on it between changes and they still used a timing belt instead of chain at this point. All told, I've been extremely pleased with our Passat. It a fun engine and a great six speed transmission wrapped inside a really comfy package. Get a wagon.
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For whatever reason the wife hates the wagon. I've already seen one manual in my area and I'll assume most manuals will stay for sale for a while since most "luxury" cars don't sell well with a manual. It took over a year for my friend to sell his BMW 5 series because it was a stick, it turned many people off.
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Jul 11, 2011 08:56
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Why not get a brand new Passat? The price ia about 4500 bucks more and come nicely equipped. Heck with the 1.9% apr right now it would be silly to spend 15k on an older car and get some thing newer. Edit: price fix BrokenKnucklez fucked around with this message at 12:27 on Jul 11, 2011 |
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Jul 11, 2011 12:22
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My wife's '02 1.8t passat is still on its original timing belt at 83k miles. Its time for a change. I'm fairly mechanically inclined, but i've heard this belt is a real pain. Is it worth attempting, or should I just have a shop or dealer do it?
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Jul 11, 2011 20:18
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Spicy Chili posted:My wife's '02 1.8t passat is still on its original timing belt at 83k miles. Its time for a change. I'm fairly mechanically inclined, but i've heard this belt is a real pain. Is it worth attempting, or should I just have a shop or dealer do it? There are plenty of DIY writeups for the 1.8t timing belt. It is a simple operation, very straightforward. If you plan to spend 3/4 of a day on it, and take your time, you'll probably be done in 3 hours thinking "wow, that wasn't as bad as I thought." Wait a minute, the Passat has the motor longitudinal, doesn't it? I've done it on a Jetta, where the motor is transverse. If you have to put the car in "service mode" like A4s, it may take a bit longer, but it's just a remove & replace procedure.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:Why not get a brand new Passat? The price ia about 4500 bucks more and come nicely equipped. Heck with the 1.9% apr right now it would be silly to spend 15k on an older car and get some thing newer. I can handle 1000 more, not 4500 more. I also have 10 grand in cash allotted for a car, so the APR isn't that much of a big deal. Also, the "market value" may be 5k more, but they sell for 10-20k more where I live. Aeka 2.0 fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Jul 11, 2011 |
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Jul 11, 2011 21:00
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Aeka 2.0 posted:I can handle 1000 more, not 4500 more. I also have 10 grand in cash allotted for a car, so the APR isn't that much of a big deal. Also, the "market value" may be 5k more, but they sell for 10-20k more where I live. The new Passat is selling for $15k over MSRP where you live? 
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Jul 11, 2011 21:10
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Aeka 2.0 posted:For whatever reason the wife hates the wagon. I've already seen one manual in my area and I'll assume most manuals will stay for sale for a while since most "luxury" cars don't sell well with a manual. It took over a year for my friend to sell his BMW 5 series because it was a stick, it turned many people off. That's really good news about the stick if you decide to go for a passat. The wagon, especially with a kid coming is awesome as it has the utility of a SUV with great fuel economy. I've had enough hardwood flooring in our wagon to do a couple of bedrooms. Really though, wife gets what she wants just make sure it has had all the proper care done to it and you'll end up with a nice car.
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Jul 11, 2011 21:21
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Throatwarbler posted:The new Passat is selling for $15k over MSRP where you live? Perhaps its just where I'm looking, I just did another quick look on Autotrader. The dealers were only listing 2012 years, is that even out yet? I don't even know really what sites to look for new car pricing as I never buy new. I just checked the local dealerships site and they have a "new" 2006 for 28k. http://www.vwriverside.com/vehicle/new/29008-WVWAK73C96P078158/2006-Volkswagen-Passat.htm So what the hell is going on?
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Jul 11, 2011 21:54
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Wagons and hatchbacks are awesome, especially if you have a family. Passat wagons are awesome, if they had a TDI Wagon for the current incarnation of the Passat I'd be all over it.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Perhaps its just where I'm looking, I just did another quick look on Autotrader. The dealers were only listing 2012 years, is that even out yet? The 2012 Passat is made in Tennesee. They've dropped the price quite a bit. http://www.insideline.com/volkswagen/passat/2012/volkswagen-slashes-price-of-2012-passat-by-7000-undercutting-japanese-rivals.html By all accounts the new Passat is a pretty good car too, and I think the 2.5l I5 is decently reliable is it not?
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Jul 11, 2011 22:46
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Throatwarbler posted:The 2012 Passat is made in Tennesee. They've dropped the price quite a bit. Isn't the 2012 Passat just a big Jetta. And by this I mean VW cut alot of corners on the new Jetta to get the price point down. As for changing the timing belt on your 1.8t passat, if you can afford it, pay to have it done. My dad's 98 passat 1.8t took the dealership a couple days to do it as it was their first one (he put 120k on the car in 3 years). From what I've read the 1.8t belt is not fun to do.
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Jul 11, 2011 23:42
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veedubfreak posted:Isn't the 2012 Passat just a big Jetta. And by this I mean VW cut alot of corners on the new Jetta to get the price point down. Well that's not what the people at the article I linked to think? I'm not sure if its even that true for the Jetta. I mean current VW aficionados say that, but then current VW aficionados seem to me like a bunch of SUPERIOR GERMAN ADHESIVE assholes.
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I'm thinking of buying a new GTI within the next 6 months, and whenever I mention it to somebody they always bring up reliability issues. Should I have any concerns? I have done some research with mixed information, but consumer reports says that the golf and GTI are more reliable than other VW models.
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I specifically went for a MKV because of their reliability (relative to previous generations). The MKV and MKVI seem to have a pretty solid reputation and with VW's 35k warranty I wouldn't worry.
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It took me about 2.5 hours last night to change out the diverter valve on my Jetta 2.0T... depressingly long because the bolts were ridiculously tight and corroded in. I'm pleased I didn't strip the bolts though. Also, the car is like new again - so happy it's back to normal. Now it's time to get chipped.
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veedubfreak posted:Isn't the 2012 Passat just a big Jetta. And by this I mean VW cut alot of corners on the new Jetta to get the price point down. I haven't done the 1.8T but I've done the belts on a B5 AHA V6 and a B5.5 BHW PD TDI, which should be similar to the 1.8T. It's not hard work, just time consuming. Getting the lock carrier into "service position" takes an extra 30-60 minutes on your first go through. You'll need to buy or borrow a few extra tools to do the timing belt job right, but a few parts providers will rent them to you for cheap, like blauparts. If you take your time, follow directions, and don't rush, it's not a difficult job--easily done over a weekend. And compared to dealership rates, you'll save hundreds of dollars. The longitudinal orientation means a little more work up front, but once you have the front end off the car, you have all the space in the world to work with, and it's pretty easy stuff. The inline 1.8T should be particularly easy. Tetraptous fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Jul 13, 2011 |
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Kashwashwa posted:It took me about 2.5 hours last night to change out the diverter valve on my Jetta 2.0T... depressingly long because the bolts were ridiculously tight and corroded in. I'm pleased I didn't strip the bolts though. Yeah we did this to my friends MKV, along with a boost gauge as he is prepping for an APR tune. Hardest part was getting to the top bolt of the diverter valve. Definitely took a bit of work to get to and finally un-torque it. Unfortunately his car threw up a CEL for a boost leak a few days ago, but seeing as how we installed the DV and boost gauge about a month ago I don't think they would be related, but then again who knows until we get time to look at it. Any ideas of common problems that cause boost leak? If it helps the DV was the forge part, not the rev d. He also has a Nu-Speed intake.
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Tetraptous posted:I haven't done the 1.8T but I've done the belts on a B5 AHA V6 and a B5.5 BHW PD TDI, which should be similar to the 1.8T. It's not hard work, just time consuming. Getting the lock carrier into "service position" takes an extra 30-60 minutes on your first go through. You'll need to buy or borrow a few extra tools to do the timing belt job right, but a few parts providers will rent them to you for cheap, like blauparts. If you take your time, follow directions, and don't rush, it's not a difficult job--easily done over a weekend. And compared to dealership rates, you'll save hundreds of dollars. The longitudinal orientation means a little more work up front, but once you have the front end off the car, you have all the space in the world to work with, and it's pretty easy stuff. The inline 1.8T should be particularly easy. I wasn't really referring to the difficulty. You said it yourself, even if you know what you are doing it'll take an entire weekend. I've just gotten to the point these days that it's not worth my time to waste a weekend working on my car.
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veedubfreak posted:Isn't the 2012 Passat just a big Jetta. And by this I mean VW cut alot of corners on the new Jetta to get the price point down. Yeah, I got a quote from a local euro-specialist mechanic to do the job including water pump and etc. for $750. I think I'm just going to go that route. Thanks.
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I have a 2000 Golf TDI GLS with a manual transmission. I've decided the time has come to let it go after ten years of ownership and seeing as these cars have weird resale due to demand/rabid fanboys I was wondering what these things actually should go for. The biggest issue(s), is that it needs both front fenders (deer), parking brake fixed, rear hatch doesn't open, airbag light on, all suspension bushings shot(have parts, just lazy) and interior detailed pretty badly. The car has 148xxx miles on it and mechanically (I mean gearbox, engine) it is in good shape and has been taken care of well. I can get primered fenders for $55 each and could get them painted for a few hundred bucks. Is it worth it to fix my jalopy up before posting it on tdiclub or just post the whore and see what happens?
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veedubfreak posted:Isn't the 2012 Passat just a big Jetta. And by this I mean VW cut alot of corners on the new Jetta to get the price point down. Yeah I like the 2008 much more, which brings me to the reliability, how close to "Toyota" reliability have they gotten?
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Yeah I like the 2008 much more, which brings me to the reliability, how close to "Toyota" reliability have they gotten? Heh, just the fact that you asked this makes me giggle.
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veedubfreak posted:Heh, just the fact that you asked this makes me giggle. well it's why I put it in quotes and I don't know what you are giggling about  I'm not looking for cryptic answers.My wife's Civic has me saying "they don't build em like the used to" since I'm nursing a blown head gasket, the trans bearings blew out once, and they sound like garbage again 2 years later. Toyota has people killing themselves and my brothers late 90s jetta was a POS along with my Mother's New Beatle (this is bad coming from a RX7 owner) and I don't see many people driving Passats. Although I hear VW is much better, but I'd just like some straight answers on this particular car, especially since I've found out that the 6 cyl version has an oil pump issue. I don't care about small things here and there, I just don't want to find out the turbo lunches itself in short order, or the head gasket blows or the trans is a pile of crap. Aeka 2.0 fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jul 16, 2011 |
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It's a German car. You will have problems. You'll love and hate every minute of it. On the other hand, your accelerator peddle won't get stuck to the floor, so you'll be alive.
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Actually I wouldn't be so sure of that: http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2010/03/toyota-not-the-only-automaker-linked-to-unintended-acceleration.html Regardless its not something you need to worry about.
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I have a 99.5 GTI (2.0l) with a man tran. I drove it home from work yesterday no problems. Went inside for a few, came back out to go somewhere and when I started it up it stuttered/bucked very harshly and seemed to be smoking...this only lasted for about 10-15 seconds and stopped when I turned the AC off (I started the car with the AC on). At this point I figured maybe the AC compressor clutch is dying and the smoke was from the belt rubbing against a static pulley; after turning the AC off the idle returned to normal and everything seemed okay. I tried turning the AC on and off a few times to see if anything else happened but it seemed okay. I opened the hood and watched the AC compressor, when it's engaged it does sound a bit clattery so I'm guessing that's part of the problem. I started to drive it to the store and about halfway there, in 3rd gear, around 2500-3000rpms I let off the gas and the revs did not drop at all. For a short time it seemed like the revs wanted to stay high no matter what so I took it home and parked it. Now I could understand the smoke and rough idle due to the AC compressor clutch, but the revving issue seems like something else entirely. Anybody have any insight into what's going on? At this point I'm holding off on driving it until I can get it over to my mechanic. The car has 130k on it and I had the entire timing belt service done at 90k.
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dissss posted:Actually I wouldn't be so sure of that: http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2010/03/toyota-not-the-only-automaker-linked-to-unintended-acceleration.html Meh, these "unintended acceleration" issues tend to crop up in North America (principally in the United States), and ONLY on that continent, even for models that are sold worldwide (see the Audi 5000 saga). And on a totally unrelated note there's little to no driver training required in North America before someone can get his/her license. But I'm sure that's a complete and utter coincidence that has nothing whatsoever to do with incidents of "unintended acceleration"...
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timb posted:It's a German car. You will have problems. You'll love and hate every minute of it. Isn't it a Tennessean car now?
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el topo posted:Meh, these "unintended acceleration" issues tend to crop up in North America (principally in the United States), and ONLY on that continent, even for models that are sold worldwide (see the Audi 5000 saga). Exactly, same deal with Toyota. Which is why you shouldn't worry about it.
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I know recommendation threads are frowned upon around here so I figured I'd post in this thread. I've been car shopping for the past month or so and I always seem to come back to the 2011 VW Golf TDI and the 2011 VW GTI. Does anyone have any thoughts on these two vehicles? The only big difference I see between the two is the TDI gives up some power for better fuel efficiency.
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Corbet posted:I know recommendation threads are frowned upon around here so I figured I'd post in this thread. I've been car shopping for the past month or so and I always seem to come back to the 2011 VW Golf TDI and the 2011 VW GTI. You should really be comparing the TDI with the normal Golf, not the GTI The GTI is the (mainstream) performance version of Golf so has a more aggressive body, wheels, interior etc as well the obviously better performance.
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dissss posted:You should really be comparing the TDI with the normal Golf, not the GTI The Golf TDI and the GTI are really not terribly different. You'll get some different wheels and seats aside from the obvious engine difference, but beyond that it's really the same car. I don't know what you mean that the body is more aggressive because it's practically identical. The suspension in the TDI is very similar to the GTI. What is your commute like? I'm averaging over 42mpg (mixed) per tank in the TDI. I can regularly break 45mpg on the highway and have hit over 52mpg on a few commutes. The TDI certainly isn't a dog but if you want the more peppy performance a GTI would be a better fit. If you want a hot hatch that absolutely tears rear end you're probably looking at the wrong vehicles anyways, buy a Mazdaspeed3 and call it a day.
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Bovine Delight posted:The Golf TDI and the GTI are really not terribly different. You'll get some different wheels and seats aside from the obvious engine difference, but beyond that it's really the same car. I don't know what you mean that the body is more aggressive because it's practically identical. In that case you could say the GTI is practically identical to the base Golf   The differences are relatively subtle but they do make a big difference Again the suspension may be 'very similar' but the differences result in a significantly different driving experience - the US market TDI is not at all like the GTD available elsewhere
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dissss posted:In that case you could say the GTI is practically identical to the base Golf The differences are some plastic bits on the grilles, beside the already mentioned wheels, etc. The cars themselves are almost identical. If you were so inclined you could just swap the grill. Also: Nobody is comparing it to the GTD. The US market GTI and US market Golf TDI have a very similar suspension. This is a fact. You sound like some pissed off Vortex fanboy.
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I'll concede that maybe the US spec cars are different suspension wise. Yes the differences are only plastic bits but IMO they do combine to make the cars noticeably different to look at. Anyway the point remains - the TDI is more comparable to the normal Golf than the GTI in performance. Its just unfortunate that the non-GTI petrol option is comparatively inefficient.
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dissss posted:I'll concede that maybe the US spec cars are different suspension wise. I've never argued performance? 
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Fair enough. I still wouldn't be cross shopping a GTI and a TDI though, it'd be the base Golf vs TDI
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Bovine Delight posted:What is your commute like? I'm averaging over 42mpg (mixed) per tank in the TDI. I can regularly break 45mpg on the highway and have hit over 52mpg on a few commutes. The TDI certainly isn't a dog but if you want the more peppy performance a GTI would be a better fit. If you want a hot hatch that absolutely tears rear end you're probably looking at the wrong vehicles anyways, buy a Mazdaspeed3 and call it a day. I'm within 10 miles of where I work and I don't have to go on any highways to get there. I do take a lot of trips 200 miles away (girlfriend's parents place) and 60 miles away (my parent's place), though. I'm willing to give up some fuel efficiency for a car that's more fun to drive but the TDI's 50mpg fuel efficiency and is so tempting.
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