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The only team shirts I don't wear out of the house are the super obnoxious ones that have DEV TEAM written all over them in huge bold, that always feels a little awkward in public. Wearing work gear has only ever backfired on me once. I was wearing one of my game's shirts on a day I went to Gamestop. One of the dude's working there saw the logo and decided to start up a conversation with me about how awful he thought the game was and how the devs had totally desecrated the franchise's legacy. I let him go on a good 5 minutes before letting him know I'd worked on it, that was fun 
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GetWellGamers posted:Actually, that bring up a question for you guys- what do you think about wearing company gear around in public? For me, so many crazy-nerd fans wear stuff with games emblazoned on them that I kind of don't want to be lumped in with them. At work, sure, I always like to fly my colors I'm with you, I have a number of work shirts or hoodies and I refuse to wear them in public. Actually, that's not entirely true. There is one that I will wear in public but it is innocuous enough that unless you look for it you'd never know it was a company hoodie (the logo is on the bottom of the left sleeve). At work however, it doesn't matter at all and I'll wear that poo poo like it's going out of style (in many cases it did decades ago  )
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but on the weekends and stuff I usually leave them in the closet. The only reason I was wearing my hoodie on vacation is because it gets nasty cold up in the mountains and the hoodies we got from the company store are really, really nice and they've got those huge stomach-pockets I really love. (Speaking of which, any Blizz peeps in the thread, mine finally disintegrated and I'd pay nice to get another one.)
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We used to get all kinda swag, even for games we didn't work on, and my advice to you is this as a social animal: unless it's really really comfortable, don't wear it in public. You are not your job, no matter how proud of your work you are. I'm sure there are plenty of guys out their wearing their free Inftotech(tm) or whatever shirts that they got at the company picnic, and it's just as lame. Caveat: I got canned, and I'm jaded, and not going into games again, but I am of the mind that it's that kind of misguided enthusiasm among a large section of the industry that makes games such a meat grinder to work in. e: by canned I mean laid off, btw. Splaa fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jul 12, 2011 |
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I almost can't avoid wearing company merch, but fortunately most of it isn't so obviously from a game company that it starts conversations. I'll wear it when I fly home for the holidays, but almost no one's bothered me about it there, either.
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MustardFacial posted:At work however, it doesn't matter at all and I'll wear that poo poo like it's going out of style (in many cases it did decades ago Some places do seem to spend some effort in making nice designs though. It's the ones that are just the box art that I don't like. I used to work with a guy who wore a company t to a bar. At the time one of the company's games had just been banned, and in the same week some other, completely unrelated, five year old game by a totally different co. had been found to contain a video clip related to a famous murder case in the UK. Anyway, some random woman comes up to him in the bar and starts shouting about how he's making child killing simulators and whatnot.
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Splaa posted:We used to get all kinda swag, even for games we didn't work on, and my advice to you is this as a social animal: unless it's really really comfortable, don't wear it in public. You are not your job, no matter how proud of your work you are. I'm sure there are plenty of guys out their wearing their free Inftotech(tm) or whatever shirts that they got at the company picnic, and it's just as lame. I still wear my APB shirts. Not because I worked on it, but because they're boss shirts. 
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Splaa posted:I'm [...] not going into games again
For example, I attended the [a]list summit in Napa last year (keynotes by David Perry and Nolan Bushnell) which was an exclusive 100-person event for the top marketing and business development people in the video game industry. During the presentation segment of the event, Lorne Lanning, Sherry McKenna, and Chris Ulm were seated on my left. On my right were two women who, generally speaking, work in marketing. Everyone received complimentary Nox Specialist headphones. One of the women said I could have her headphones because she doesn't play games. I showed her on the box that the headphones can be used with other devices, too, but that's besides the point. She doesn't play games, she's attending this conference, and... she's part of the process that moves product? I was shocked.
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Splaa posted:
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Monster w21 Faces posted:Get back on that horse mister. Some people don't want to. I've heard programmers that work with me state that this is fun for now but they just want to do it for five or six more years to get it out of their system and work on other kinds of software. As a designer that's not something I can really relate to, but it hardly seems like an unusual sentiment.
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Shalinor posted:I wear my LEGO Universe jacket around in the winters because it's a really, really nice jacket. Super comfy, really warm, just all around nice. Similarly, my LU shirts are in my regular t-shirt rotation just because they don't scream LEGO on the front with nothing else - there's some nice art on them, the only actual logo/name is smallish on the top back. I remember being utterly astounded the first time someone came up to me at a convention and said "Are you Dan from GP?" and had actually read my work. I imagine it's one thing for an artist/coder/whatever to get people fanboying about them but for a lawyer it's like 
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"Where does someone get a LEGO jacket?"
"You work for them"
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I wear my current work-supplied T shirts only when nothing is clean and even then I wear them inside-out. They are the most hideous things I have ever possessed. For the random translator I was looking for stuff for - we currently only have a spot open for German<>Spanish which doesn't seem as if it would suit you 
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My company swag is (mostly) laundry day wear, but I wear the hoodie pretty much every day. It's super subtle about its branding and unless you look close, you probably don't even notice. There are a few excellent t-shirts as well, but the vast majority are just "GAME NAME!!!" and the graphics across the front, and they lead to some hilarious exchanges when out and about: I'm at a bank, doing something with the teller, and when our transaction is wrapping up: Her: "Hey, do you want to be neighbors?" Me: "Huh, wha?" Her: "Your shirt. Do you play and want to be neighbors?" I look down and realize I'm wearing a FarmVille shirt. Me: "Oh, sorry, no. I just work there." Her: "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OMGOMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" At the eye doctor's, the optometrist is making small talk as he's doing the exam: Him: "So what do you do?" Me: "Oh, I work with computers." Him: "Are you a programmer or something?" Me: "Yeah, I make stuff on the web these days." Him: "What kind of stuff?" Me: "Games, mostly, on Facebook." Him: "DO YOU MAKE FRONTERVILLE?!!?? CAN YOU FIX MY POTATOES?!!!?" I was on a flight a few months back, wearing my aforementioned hoodie, and my row consisted of myself in the middle seat, someone with a google hoodie to my left, and someone with a facebook t-shirt to my right. I was like "Hey guys, internet high fives!!" but they proceeded to scoff at me and hide their laptop screens.  But it's way more fun than saying "Do you know WoW? Yeah I work on the less popular versions of that." devilmouse fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Jul 12, 2011 |
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19orFewer posted:I wear my current work-supplied T shirts only when nothing is clean and even then I wear them inside-out. They are the most hideous things I have ever possessed. Haha, I speak neither German nor Spanish  But I really, really appreciate you asking for me. Cheers! 
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devilmouse posted:But it's way more fun than saying "Do you know WoW? Yeah I work on the less popular versions of that." The truth of this statement is something that causes me pain
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Sigma-X posted:(what did you do on Gears? I am a huge Epic fanboy) I have a writer credit on the game -- as for what that entails, I gotta remain mum on the topic 'til after the game ships.
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Black Eagle posted:"Industry" is defined as "the aggregate of manufacturing or technically productive enterprises in a particular field." The phrase video game industry therefore casts a very wide net. If you derive any income from a video game-related enterprise, you're working "in the industry." You may not be considered a member of the professional community, but that's a different issue entirely. So, since I see and hear these comments every once in awhile, I have a few questions. Sure, I can clarify a bit here. I was an associate producer at Activision for three years, and while I am certainly into video games, I did juts fall into it after college when I found a QA job there (not because I was trying to get in to games, but because a job is a job and hey video games). I will also note that my office an extremely high stress and fast paced, many month crunches, sleeping in the office kind of place, and I know this is not always the case. My thing about people getting blinded by their passion, and I could see this in my coworkers so I'm not just postulating here, is that people will put up with an OUTRAGEOUS amount of poo poo just because they are "working in video games." That office straight up ruined a couple marriages for instance, but employees (myself included) wouldn't push back. It applies to how people are paid, how people are treated, and general quality of life, and I'm of course not saying people should do 40 hours and out every week, but sleeping at your desk for a month is not something anyone should do. So yes, could I go pack as a producer to something less horrible? Sure. If I found a little iOS startup that needed a project manager I'd probably be all about it. But really, I'd rather move on to other pastures. e: hoo boy that's quite a rant coming from posting about company shirts. Splaa fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Jul 12, 2011 |
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My husband has a really awesome Ubisoft hoodie I want to steal. He says when its a cold day, everyone wears it to work almost like they have a uniform. He stole my Dexter: the game shirt. Its funny cause you can tell its a male's athletic cut t-shirt and the largest size they had was an XL. Lets just say a good majority of the team looked pretty unflattering.
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I still have an EA Sports hoodie that I wear but it's more of a "Oh it's cold outside I'll grab something on my way out the door."
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Splaa posted:stuff about long hours/sleeping at your desk I've worked at Ubisoft for almost 5 years and have stayed past 6 maybe 4 or 5 times total, and haven't heard of anyone staying past maybe 8 on a once-in-a-while basis here. Just sayin', experiences with say, Activision, are going to be VERY different than other publishers. You don't need to find an indie startup to have a good home life. poo poo, we have Summer Hours every year where we can leave at 2 on Fridays if we're caught up, May-Sept.
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oh know, I know my experience isn't everyone's, and it shouldn't be. My cautionary tale here is more about being so into the idea of working in games that when you are in an abusive situation, you dan't say to yourself "well, this really sucks, but I'm working in VIDEO GAMES so I don't care." This especially applies to young guys, because that was me from 22-26. Again, I'm not sure how I got onto this from don't wear your work shirts in public, but I really do think it's a valuable point. I've seen it happen to too many people myself included.
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Splaa posted:oh know, I know my experience isn't everyone's, and it shouldn't be. My cautionary tale here is more about being so into the idea of working in games that when you are in an abusive situation, you dan't say to yourself "well, this really sucks, but I'm working in VIDEO GAMES so I don't care." This especially applies to young guys, because that was me from 22-26. I still don't think we need a union, trade group, etc, we just need people to be aware enough of the job and its realities to see when they're being taken advantage of, and to know that that is NOT the way it has to be. No matter what your hardcore from-back-in-the-day CEO might or might not be telling you about how crunching every day is normal and by god when HE was starting out... etc. EDIT: VV I hope so, but I do have to wonder... I mean the way Hollywood fixed / tried to fix this is with a bunch of guilds. But then, my understanding is that the guilds all but strangled the indie film industry, what with the red tape being too much for them to afford dealing with, and that they're only now re-emerging. I don't suppose anyone in here has Hollywood background? Shalinor fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Jul 12, 2011 |
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I'm hoping as game jobs age, they become more like any other carrier.
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My work shirt used to have 'gently caress Everyone' in small text hidden in spots but they recently got rid of it.Alterian posted:I'm hoping as game jobs age, they become more like any other carrier. Doubtful. People get REALLY excited about people wearing animated film shirts/jackets and they've been around for a while.
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So, who else here is on their way to becoming a PR guy or a Community Coordinator/Manager person?
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M4rk posted:So, who else here is on their way to becoming a PR guy or a Community Coordinator/Manager person? I'm not on my way, I am one. I think I'm the only one here though. 
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Monster w21 Faces posted:I'm not on my way, I am one. I think I'm the only one here though. I am one also don't feel lonely (I think my job counts)! Though I do operations stuff as well so it's not 100% community marketing stuff.
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I fully realize I bring it on myself, to be fair though it's not "OMG I work in games!" as much as it is "No, we are NOT shipping with that. gently caress it, I'll fix it myself."
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MustardFacial posted:I fully realize I bring it on myself, to be fair though it's not "OMG I work in games!" as much as it is "No, we are NOT shipping with that. gently caress it, I'll fix it myself." This has literally been 50% of my job as of late.
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MustardFacial posted:I fully realize I bring it on myself, to be fair though it's not "OMG I work in games!" as much as it is "No, we are NOT shipping with that. gently caress it, I'll fix it myself." It's sort of frustrating when in response to that attitude, someone above you says "No, don't fix it." It has happened to me. To be fair, it happened for reasons I technically understand but also don't think are good enough reasons to avoid fixing something that is sub-par.
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Superrodan posted:It's sort of frustrating when in response to that attitude, someone above you says "No, don't fix it." I've learned the best way to handle this is to take some time to fix these bugs that really annoy you well in advance of any deadlines. I often take every other Friday on a project to fix a bunch of C level bugs, and pet peeve bugs of other people on the team. It also really helps team morale, that bug that has been annoying them for a week or two getting fixed often results in them working harder and doing more kick rear end work.
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Shalinor posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHvJqPxXUXM Yeah so this video has been stuck in my head for a while. How did you do those clouds? Some kind of shader? Perlin noise (and random data in general) is usually very slow. Would you mind sharing your magic?
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Monster w21 Faces posted:I'm not on my way, I am one. I think I'm the only one here though. I have done it in the past, both inside and outside the industry.
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Robot Entertainment is hiring! We're still looking for programmers, and we've also opened up a UI designer/artist position. We're a smallish (<50 person) independent studio located in Plano, TX, and we're working on Orcs Must Die!, and some other unannounced projects. If you're interested and have any questions, feel free to PM me.
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Vino posted:Yeah so this video has been stuck in my head for a while. How did you do those clouds? Some kind of shader? Perlin noise (and random data in general) is usually very slow. Would you mind sharing your magic? The trick with noise is to calculate/process once, but then use multiple layers of interfering or spatially-relative noise to give the illusion of noise animation. EDIT: MustardFacial posted:I fully realize I bring it on myself, to be fair though it's not "OMG I work in games!" as much as it is "No, we are NOT shipping with that. gently caress it, I'll fix it myself." Shalinor fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jul 13, 2011 |
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I got accepted to NC State for their Computer Programming Certificate for post-baccalaureate students program. 
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Superrodan posted:It's sort of frustrating when in response to that attitude, someone above you says "No, don't fix it." This happened to me yesterday. It sucks because it's something I screwed up to begin with and I can't stand it when things are broken (ask me how my RX-7 project is going )
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mastermind2004 posted:Robot Entertainment is hiring! I played Orcs Must Die at E3 and it is pretty sweet. I'm not looking for a job right now, but if I were you guys seem great.
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Monster w21 Faces posted:I'm not on my way, I am one. I think I'm the only one here though.
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Loving the new thread title. It made me LOL IRL. (And hurt a little on the inside at the same time.)
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