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Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Oprah Haza posted:

The modeling agency let the magazine publish a test? Congrats, by the way!

Yep, most editorials in most magazines are shot on a test basis.

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psylent
Nov 29, 2000

Pillbug
Nicely done Paragon! Congratulations.

Site is offline at the moment though :(

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

psylent posted:

Nicely done Paragon! Congratulations.

Site is offline at the moment though :(

haha yeah, it's only my editorial too.


Only Girl in the World by Steve takes pictures, on Flickr

but here's the first page with I nabbed to put on flickr.

thetzar
Apr 22, 2001
Fallen Rib
I grabbed a coworker of mine the other day and pulled him into one of the old stairwells in our office building, which haven't been renovated since the thing was built a hundred years ago. They're some of my favorite spaces to shoot in.


mister frank by thetzar, on Flickr

I had previously, on a different floor, taken this in one of them:

mister rupak by thetzar, on Flickr

Miko
May 20, 2001

Where I come from, there's no such thing as kryptonite.

Paragon8 posted:

haha yeah, it's only my editorial too.


Only Girl in the World by Steve takes pictures, on Flickr

but here's the first page with I nabbed to put on flickr.
Don't forget the little people when you make it big.

Seriously, that's awesome, nice work.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Miko posted:

Don't forget the little people when you make it big.

Seriously, that's awesome, nice work.

Haha, I've spent too long slaving as an assistant to forget where I came from!

The editorial should be back up at http://www.papercutmag.com/?q=editorials%2F2011%2F07%2Fonly-girl-world-photographed-steven-read - I think they had a bit of a hosting issue.

m4mbo
Oct 22, 2006

Paragon8 posted:

Haha, I've spent too long slaving as an assistant to forget where I came from!

The editorial should be back up at http://www.papercutmag.com/?q=editorials%2F2011%2F07%2Fonly-girl-world-photographed-steven-read - I think they had a bit of a hosting issue.

Good stuff Paragon! Where do you end up getting the makeup done when you're on location?

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

m4mbo posted:

Good stuff Paragon! Where do you end up getting the makeup done when you're on location?

I always have an apartment (either mine or my friends) nearby to do hair and makeup and never really shoot more than a 5-10 minute walk from there.

Eli's Adventure
Dec 24, 2001


Just got a D7000 a couple weeks ago. I like this one the best so far.

paisleyfox
Feb 23, 2009

My dog thinks he's a pretty lady.


Okay, so my sister got me to take some headshots of my nieces while I was out visiting last week. What can I do to make these better?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepaisleyfox/sets/72157627190405730/

My favorite is this one:



Unfortunately I've been shooting on jpeg all this time since I didn't really have a reason to shoot raw until I started messing around with some of my slightly underexposed shots with the same techniques I use for the photographers I do post for. Looks like I'm switching formats. :/

AIIAZNSK8ER
Dec 8, 2008


Where is your 24-70?

paisleyfox posted:

Okay, so my sister got me to take some headshots of my nieces while I was out visiting last week. What can I do to make these better?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepaisleyfox/sets/72157627190405730/

My favorite is this one:



Unfortunately I've been shooting on jpeg all this time since I didn't really have a reason to shoot raw until I started messing around with some of my slightly underexposed shots with the same techniques I use for the photographers I do post for. Looks like I'm switching formats. :/

Good exposure, but watch your composition. The angles you take all of the photos at could be better if you a bit lower to match their eye level. Also everything seems to be crazy tilted, especially the one you show here. I would back off just a bit as well to get more of the environment and make the kids fit into it.

paisleyfox
Feb 23, 2009

My dog thinks he's a pretty lady.


AIIAZNSK8ER posted:

Good exposure, but watch your composition. The angles you take all of the photos at could be better if you a bit lower to match their eye level. Also everything seems to be crazy tilted, especially the one you show here. I would back off just a bit as well to get more of the environment and make the kids fit into it.

Okay, thanks. Yeah, I was using my better lens, which is a longer range zoom, so I was backed up a bit (about 6-7 feet away) and standing. I know it's hard to tell and it makes it look crooked as hell, but that's the garden pavers curving up the hill behind them, but I see what you're saying, I can't unsee it now.

Elemeno^P
Aug 13, 2002

paisleyfox posted:

Okay, so my sister got me to take some headshots of my nieces while I was out visiting last week. What can I do to make these better?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thepaisleyfox/sets/72157627190405730/

My favorite is this one:



Unfortunately I've been shooting on jpeg all this time since I didn't really have a reason to shoot raw until I started messing around with some of my slightly underexposed shots with the same techniques I use for the photographers I do post for. Looks like I'm switching formats. :/

Unfortunately, you are also cropping the frame at her joints. If it were not for the tiny bit of index finger, it would appear that she has a stump for an arm. As for the background, I think 2 minutes of cloning in photoshop could clean up that corner, and put all the attention back on your subject.

Otherwise, nice lighting on her face, and a good smile. I am sure your sister is probably overjoyed with the photos. Nice work!

paisleyfox
Feb 23, 2009

My dog thinks he's a pretty lady.


Elemeno^P posted:

Unfortunately, you are also cropping the frame at her joints. If it were not for the tiny bit of index finger, it would appear that she has a stump for an arm. As for the background, I think 2 minutes of cloning in photoshop could clean up that corner, and put all the attention back on your subject.

Otherwise, nice lighting on her face, and a good smile. I am sure your sister is probably overjoyed with the photos. Nice work!

So would you have either stepped back a bit more or zoomed in on just her face?

Sorry if these are awful questions, I'm really still learning, well, everything. v:shobon:v

And it took her a day to come around and like them (or at least deal with them), actually. My sister is very particular, and she thought that one made her daughter have an evil smile. :smith: Some of the other pictures of the girls she had me take (there are three of them, ages 2, 5 and 7) she kept telling them to smile better, not that fakey smile and expected them all to "sit pretty" and look only at me. I suggested we go to a park instead of just shooting in the front and back yard and she didn't like that idea because they'd be playing. :confused:

For example;
http://flickr.com/gp/thepaisleyfox/H206ZF

"Natalie isn't looking at the camera! And what is Lindsey doing with her shoe?! What else do you have?"

:sigh:

(Also, I just noiced I cut off feet in that one. Oh boy, stumps ahoy, here...)

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.

paisleyfox posted:

(Also, I just noiced I cut off feet in that one. Oh boy, stumps ahoy, here...)

The rule about cropping at joints tends to start a bit of controversy here, but it's a good foundation. In my opinion, the rule isn't some hard-and-fast unbreakable law, but more often than not a picture looks seriously awkward when it's broken.
My personal guideline is that if my mind non-awkwardly fills in the blanks where the rest of a limb ought to be, it's worked out ok. If I immediately "see" stumps, then it hasn't.

My Flickr Page! :nws:

scottch
Oct 18, 2003
"It appears my wee-wee's been stricken with rigor mortis."

paisleyfox posted:

So would you have either stepped back a bit more or zoomed in on just her face?

Sorry if these are awful questions, I'm really still learning, well, everything. v:shobon:v

And it took her a day to come around and like them (or at least deal with them), actually. My sister is very particular, and she thought that one made her daughter have an evil smile. :smith: Some of the other pictures of the girls she had me take (there are three of them, ages 2, 5 and 7) she kept telling them to smile better, not that fakey smile and expected them all to "sit pretty" and look only at me. I suggested we go to a park instead of just shooting in the front and back yard and she didn't like that idea because they'd be playing. :confused:

For example;
http://flickr.com/gp/thepaisleyfox/H206ZF

"Natalie isn't looking at the camera! And what is Lindsey doing with her shoe?! What else do you have?"

:sigh:

(Also, I just noiced I cut off feet in that one. Oh boy, stumps ahoy, here...)

If there's any way you could get the kids out for a shoot without their mother, I'm sure you'd get some really great photos. Parents like that just end up loving it all up.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Your sister sounds like the greatest person ever.

AIIAZNSK8ER
Dec 8, 2008


Where is your 24-70?

paisleyfox posted:

"Natalie isn't looking at the camera! And what is Lindsey doing with her shoe?! What else do you have?"
:sigh:

That sounds really rough. I will leave photos of the kids doing whacky stuff in the final set because the parents often say "oh, that's sooo Johnny" and eat that poo poo up.

I rarely get a 5 year do do what I ask for more than 5 seconds, but I will always get a cute picture that mom wants printed into an 8x10.

MrBlandAverage
Jul 2, 2003

GNNAAAARRRR
Went to a wedding. I'm too lazy right now to fix stray hairs. Meanwhile, tell me your preferred method for dealing with them in post!

Tamgerine
Jul 11, 2006

Fatty Fat Failure!
How is your muffin top, fatty?
Hope those cheetos were worth it.

paisleyfox posted:

So would you have either stepped back a bit more or zoomed in on just her face?

Sorry if these are awful questions, I'm really still learning, well, everything. v:shobon:v

And it took her a day to come around and like them (or at least deal with them), actually. My sister is very particular, and she thought that one made her daughter have an evil smile. :smith: Some of the other pictures of the girls she had me take (there are three of them, ages 2, 5 and 7) she kept telling them to smile better, not that fakey smile and expected them all to "sit pretty" and look only at me. I suggested we go to a park instead of just shooting in the front and back yard and she didn't like that idea because they'd be playing. :confused:

For example;
http://flickr.com/gp/thepaisleyfox/H206ZF

"Natalie isn't looking at the camera! And what is Lindsey doing with her shoe?! What else do you have?"

:sigh:

(Also, I just noiced I cut off feet in that one. Oh boy, stumps ahoy, here...)

God, welcome to the HELL that is photographing children. Did it for two years a while back and now I stick to adults.

You know, scratch that. It's never the kids. NEVER the kids. It's always the parents. Get a bad parent and the portrait session is going to go to poo poo. I don't think I've ever had an excellent session with a bad parent.

Okay, so, your photos. Not sure if all they wanted was headshots, but some general tips. Think about your background. It's a portrait but in the background you've got all sorts of things, trees, rocks, grass, that is all just becomes a confusing blur that doesn't contribute to the portrait. Think about your composition, foreground, subject, and background. A photograph is all of those elements.

The girl looks like she has an evil smile because you're shooting down at her and her chin is tilted down as well. Come down on her level and tilt her chin up.

Also, headshots don't always have to be flat to the camera. Experiment with 3/4 views, they can be looking over the shoulder, or they can be laying down in the grass with you above them, or they can be laying on their side and propped up. Lay them on their stomach and have them put their chin on their hands, blah blah blah.

I'm going to make an assumption on your group shot. What I think happened was mom wanted to make the little girl smile and was trying to get her attention. But because Mom has no idea what she's doing, she was nowhere near the camera which means the little girl is paying attention to mom and not the camera. If the parent HAS to be involved, seat them as close to the camera as possible.

When working with little kids try bringing something that makes noise like a rubber duck. When you've got the smile, squeak the toy, and the smile will usually last long enough for you to take the photo when they redirect their attention to the camera.

Working with groups of varying ages is hard because you've got a little one that needs something to get their attention and older ones who are sometimes too cheesy and need to relax. Upside is the older girls can usually hold a pose and a smile while you get the little ones attention. However I will eat my camera if you don't have a difficult time getting them all to look at the camera with an expression that pleases mommy dearest.

Instead, try taking some photos of them interacting with each other instead of the camera. It usually helps to get more genuine expressions.

Lastly, watch your leg positions. You're shooting up their skirts in a couple of the photos but they are wearing shots so it is kind of okay, but not okay when they're wearing dresses or skirts.

Lesson here is just give up shooting kids unless you leave the parents at home. I'm not bitter by any means at all, I don't think.

paisleyfox
Feb 23, 2009

My dog thinks he's a pretty lady.


Tamgerine posted:

:words:

Thanks so much for this. I do have some better shots where they are all looking pleasant at me the way my sister wanted it, but yeah. It seems my biggest hurdle is backgrounds and being on their level, which is funny since I tend to practice getting down when I photograph my dog. I won't see them again until January when we all meet up at Disneyworld, but I'll try some of those out next time I see them (and next time I'm around some of the kids in the nursery I volunteer for on Sundays.) I haven't made the album public yet because I was waiting to go through them a final time before showing my sister. :P But I had fun with taking pictures of them playing around in the back yard a little bit, but since I was there for such a short time I didn't have a chance to really take them somewhere fun to goof off, so as a whole I feel they are a little blah.

And yeah, Lindsey never notices she's in a skirt or a dress. I've had to toss several photos because she doesn't have her legs together.

Tamgerine
Jul 11, 2006

Fatty Fat Failure!
How is your muffin top, fatty?
Hope those cheetos were worth it.

paisleyfox posted:

Thanks so much for this. I do have some better shots where they are all looking pleasant at me the way my sister wanted it, but yeah. It seems my biggest hurdle is backgrounds and being on their level, which is funny since I tend to practice getting down when I photograph my dog. I won't see them again until January when we all meet up at Disneyworld, but I'll try some of those out next time I see them (and next time I'm around some of the kids in the nursery I volunteer for on Sundays.) I haven't made the album public yet because I was waiting to go through them a final time before showing my sister. :P But I had fun with taking pictures of them playing around in the back yard a little bit, but since I was there for such a short time I didn't have a chance to really take them somewhere fun to goof off, so as a whole I feel they are a little blah.

And yeah, Lindsey never notices she's in a skirt or a dress. I've had to toss several photos because she doesn't have her legs together.

Sometimes it just doesn't work out. The best session is when the parent realizes that today is just not the day, and brings the kids back when they aren't hungry, crying, sleeping, or sick. They always get better photos coming back a second time than forcing the kid through the session when they don't want to.

I think practice is the best thing, honestly. After a while of photographing kids you have a bag of tricks you can call upon depending on their age, and kind of know what they're capable of and what the typical problems are and how to work around them.

burzum karaoke
May 30, 2003

Oprah Haza posted:



This one is the cat's meow.

XTimmy
Nov 28, 2007
I am Jacks self hatred
I haven't been posting enough here, mostly because the standard is really high. Here's a set I did with a friend.


Demi-2 by TimFPictures, on Flickr
I wish I'd taken a step back for this. but I think I would have lost the fantastic background bokeh (I know I know but I was deliberatley trying to demonstrate the effect). I'm really considering investing in a 35mm f2.0. Thoughts?



Demi-8 by TimFPictures, on Flickr
More a landscape than a portrait but I was very happy with how this turned out. I try to push a bit of a cinema edge in my work.


Demi-9 by TimFPictures, on Flickr

xenilk
Apr 17, 2004

ERRYDAY I BE SPLIT-TONING! Honestly, its the only skill I got other than shooting the back of women and calling it "Editorial".

XTimmy posted:

I haven't been posting enough here, mostly because the standard is really high. Here's a set I did with a friend.


Demi-8 by TimFPictures, on Flickr
More a landscape than a portrait but I was very happy with how this turned out. I try to push a bit of a cinema edge in my work.

Totally loveeee that picture. Well done :)

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine

bung
Dec 14, 2004

My wife wanted some headshots for her facebook profile and for her corporate profile.

I softened the skin by knocking down clarity in LR and then brightened the eyes and teeth in PS. It looks a little overdone to me but everyone who has seen the shots comment on how they like her eyes. I am trying to build a portfolio for portrait, senior, engagement and family shots so they will be a little overcooked to appeal to the "unwashed masses".


Rainy by jefferyhoeft, on Flickr

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



bung posted:

My wife wanted some headshots for her facebook profile and for her corporate profile.

I softened the skin by knocking down clarity in LR and then brightened the eyes and teeth in PS. It looks a little overdone to me but everyone who has seen the shots comment on how they like her eyes. I am trying to build a portfolio for portrait, senior, engagement and family shots so they will be a little overcooked to appeal to the "unwashed masses".


Rainy by jefferyhoeft, on Flickr

I don't think the editing is too intrusive but I don't like how her forehead is cut off

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.

Reichstag posted:



I like this shot but I wish he didn't have printing on his shirt. I found myself inadvertently reading it instead of looking around the rest of the picture. I wish I could see a bit more of his eyes but I do like the expression a lot.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





bung posted:

My wife wanted some headshots for her facebook profile and for her corporate profile.

I softened the skin by knocking down clarity in LR and then brightened the eyes and teeth in PS. It looks a little overdone to me but everyone who has seen the shots comment on how they like her eyes. I am trying to build a portfolio for portrait, senior, engagement and family shots so they will be a little overcooked to appeal to the "unwashed masses".


Rainy by jefferyhoeft, on Flickr

This desperately needs a longer lens. You're close enough to stretch her features a little, even at 50mm.

Also look into short lighting for anyone with even a couple pounds of extra weight. Especially women. I'm not calling her a fatty, but the lighting you used with that angle of her face adds pounds.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Just some stuff from last weeeeeeek





AIIAZNSK8ER
Dec 8, 2008


Where is your 24-70?

bung posted:

My wife wanted some headshots for her facebook profile and for her corporate profile.

I softened the skin by knocking down clarity in LR and then brightened the eyes and teeth in PS. It looks a little overdone to me but everyone who has seen the shots comment on how they like her eyes. I am trying to build a portfolio for portrait, senior, engagement and family shots so they will be a little overcooked to appeal to the "unwashed masses".


Rainy by jefferyhoeft, on Flickr

Do you have another shot further back? I think you've moved in a bit too close.

Jiblet
Jan 5, 2004

Limey Bastard

Paragon8 posted:

Just some stuff from last weeeeeeek

Do you have something against her forehead? You keep cutting it off :(
Other than that, BRIIIIIIIIGHT! But nice, especially like pose in the first one (other than the head chop).

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Jiblet posted:

Do you have something against her forehead? You keep cutting it off :(
Other than that, BRIIIIIIIIGHT! But nice, especially like pose in the first one (other than the head chop).

It's an aesthetic choice to maximise what I want in the frame rather than having to step back to fit everything into a composition. To fit everything in frame you'd have to step back more and the model isn't as prominent. I'd always want to take a step forward and crop in tighter than take a step back and have the model be smaller in frame.

Oprah Haza
Jan 25, 2008
That's my purse! I don't know you!
Everyone please take my opinions just as opinions. :)

XTimmy posted:


Demi-2 by TimFPictures, on Flickr
I wish I'd taken a step back for this. but I think I would have lost the fantastic background bokeh (I know I know but I was deliberatley trying to demonstrate the effect). I'm really considering investing in a 35mm f2.0. Thoughts?


Demi-8 by TimFPictures, on Flickr
More a landscape than a portrait but I was very happy with how this turned out. I try to push a bit of a cinema edge in my work.


Demi-9 by TimFPictures, on Flickr

I think the first is nice, but an exposure mask to bring her out a bit may help. The second one is really nice, but as you mentioned, not a portrait. It is nice though.

bung posted:


Rainy by jefferyhoeft, on Flickr

I would definitely redo this one, you can do better. She fills up too much of the frame and it looks as if she is attacking you. The light is not bad at all though. I would consider doing some dodge/burn to the hair on both sides to give the photo a bit of balance.

Paragon8 posted:

Just some stuff from last weeeeeeek







Foxy lady! I think the first could benefit from some curves/DB to give a bit more depth. The second I personally would have given a bit more on top but I totally agree with you that sometimes cutoff is necessary. I think I would have liked to have seen a smile in the last three with the lightness of the photos (this is very strange to type, as most of my portraits feature no smile). I think it may be a bit bright but that's a personal opinion and most people think I go too dark anyway.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Oprah Haza posted:

Everyone please take my opinions just as opinions. :)

Thanks! The bw treatment in the first was aimed to be low contrast and filmic as I was trying to test out a tri-x action I made. Usually my bw is a bit crisper and the whites are white and blacks are black.

I do have some lighter lingerie shots but it's such a hassle to get stuff on here I gave up trying to throw poo poo on imgur- I think you should be able to see this though - https://plus.google.com/115575156595727332410/posts/8G1x8YpnYWE.

Oprah Haza
Jan 25, 2008
That's my purse! I don't know you!

Paragon8 posted:

Thanks! The bw treatment in the first was aimed to be low contrast and filmic as I was trying to test out a tri-x action I made. Usually my bw is a bit crisper and the whites are white and blacks are black.

I do have some lighter lingerie shots but it's such a hassle to get stuff on here I gave up trying to throw poo poo on imgur- I think you should be able to see this though - https://plus.google.com/115575156595727332410/posts/8G1x8YpnYWE.

That second shot is really sexy. It may be "overdone" to some people but it's really a classic shot and you captured the mood well.

Here are a few from the past few weeks:

@an outdoor show, lit only with a lighter




headlights


Outdoor Session




Session - she wanted very serious looks






Oprah Haza fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Aug 12, 2011

xenilk
Apr 17, 2004

ERRYDAY I BE SPLIT-TONING! Honestly, its the only skill I got other than shooting the back of women and calling it "Editorial".

Paragon8 posted:

Just some stuff from last weeeeeeek







I really like those. The lightning is well done and the poses are very nice. Also she looks very comfortable which adds a lot. My only "critique" would be that in a few shots you're cutting the limbs which looks weird. I know you don't want to take steps back but if it's just a hand that doesn't fit you don't have to step that further back.

Also, in some of the poses her fingers are hidden, I believe it might look better if they weren't.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

xenilk posted:

I really like those. The lightning is well done and the poses are very nice. Also she looks very comfortable which adds a lot. My only "critique" would be that in a few shots you're cutting the limbs which looks weird. I know you don't want to take steps back but if it's just a hand that doesn't fit you don't have to step that further back.

Also, in some of the poses her fingers are hidden, I believe it might look better if they weren't.

Yeah, a lot of that is just the limitations of the bedroom I was shooting in - the mattress was a bit spongy so she tended to sink into it.

I like to be in the mindset that you can find more beauty in imperfection if that makes sense? So I try and take ownership of a style rather than strive for "perfection" - there are plenty of amazing photographers that shoot plastic perfect lingerie with crisp even lighting so I'm happy to kind of over expose the edges a bit and frame loosely just to try and get across my mind set.

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torgeaux
Dec 31, 2004
I serve...

Oprah Haza posted:


Session - she wanted very serious looks




If you're gonna show skin, you have to give it time to rebound from the prior clothes/undergarments.

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