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bytebark
Sep 26, 2004

I hate Illinois Nazis

Nerobro posted:

I know the guy (well one of the guys) who restored that. I remember listening to him talk about parts, and figuring out what was wrong with it.

I helped out a little bit on this locomotive early this year, mostly freeing up the fuel injectors. Took a lot of Kroil and hammering on them (with a piece of wood in between). The cylinders were apparently seized as well when the museum got it (leave an unused locomotive outside for six months or so, without an upside down bucket over the smokestack, and water will get in and make poo poo rust) but they were able to free it up in January using a 50/50 mixture of acetone and automatic transmission fluid.

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B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde
Any of you guys live in or around Sacramento, CA?

Get there and tour this place: http://www.csrmf.org/

My wife and her friend wanted to go when we cvisited Cali this winter. Totally worth it. See the movie upstairs too.

Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!

bytebark posted:

I helped out a little bit on this locomotive early this year, mostly freeing up the fuel injectors. Took a lot of Kroil and hammering on them (with a piece of wood in between).

the next question is, do I know you? I know you know Jamie.

I have realy meant to come out there on a work day.

porkfriedrice
May 23, 2010

B4Ctom1 posted:

Any of you guys live in or around Sacramento, CA?

Get there and tour this place: http://www.csrmf.org/

My wife and her friend wanted to go when we visited Cali this winter. Totally worth it. See the movie upstairs too.

Really fun place to go. I went with my my ex-girlfriend, and we apparently didn't realize that you were supposed to tour the exhibits in a certain direction. We realized something was wrong after trying to walk against the flow in the narrow rail car aisles.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
So do railroads share engines as well as rolling stock? Here in Ohio I've been seeing BNSF units pulling trains on CSX/NS lines, and according to the system map on BNSF's website they don't go any further east than Chicago.

bytebark
Sep 26, 2004

I hate Illinois Nazis

Nerobro posted:

the next question is, do I know you? I know you know Jamie.

I have realy meant to come out there on a work day.

I know Jamie from the museum - usually I'm working on the electric rolling stock but diesels are A-OK too and I spent some time earlier this year in the diesel shop.

Speaking of diesels, IRM is having its usual Diesel Weekend this Saturday & Sunday. Anyone around northern IL/southern WI interested in this type of thing should come out; there will be at least 15 different diesels operating in a "parade" past the museum's main depot (with lots of intentional smoke, depending on the engineer and if it's an ALCO or not).

Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!
I think I"ll have time sunday to do that. Any excuse to ride the motorcycle yaknow? And show up on something with an engine that could fit in the cylinder...

porkfriedrice
May 23, 2010

Geoj posted:

So do railroads share engines as well as rolling stock? Here in Ohio I've been seeing BNSF units pulling trains on CSX/NS lines, and according to the system map on BNSF's website they don't go any further east than Chicago.

Not totally sure, but I think there are leasing agreements among the railroads. Here are some BNSF units on a CSX train in New York: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=190480

Here in the Northeast, the Providence and Worcester Railroad purchased some former BNSF locomotives. Check out the paint scheme they came up with: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=190593 The normal company paint scheme is on the other unit.

Wedesdo
Jun 15, 2001
I FUCKING WASTED 10 HOURS AND $40 TODAY. FUCK YOU FATE AND/OR FORTUNE AND/OR PROBABILITY AND/OR HEISENBURG UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE.

porkfriedrice posted:

Here in the Northeast, the Providence and Worcester Railroad purchased some former BNSF locomotives. Check out the paint scheme they came up with: http://photos.nerail.org/s/?p=190593 The normal company paint scheme is on the other unit.
Wow that's pretty drat lazy.

tehsid
Dec 24, 2007

Nobility is sadly overrated.
Ah, I was wondering if there was a thread for train people on SA. I found it.


I've never been all that interested in trains. They look cool, sometimes, but the size or power never really struck until I started my new job as a tradesman's assistant at a rail-yard in Melbourne, about 3 months ago.

Now they are very, very cool and I'm learning a LOT about them.

So what do I do? I work an 'underfloor wheel lathe'. Its very cool. It basically takes out any flat spots or skids in the wheels, by taking out between 10 and 30mm. Some locomotives we have to take off more, but that's dependent on how many kilometers they've done.

Anyway, have a few pic's from work. And if you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer, or find out the answer's, if anybody is interested. I'll also take a few photos of any cool trains that come in.

(Sorry for the crappy iPhone 3GS pics... If I can I'll get a few more pics with a normal camera, but for now, these will do.)


The wheel lathe itself, facing the direction the trains roll out.


A passenger train on the lathe being turned.


A faulty train that was sitting there for ages (before I started). Some fool put in a window that was 10cm to small on the top, it only got fixed about a week ago... now another one is in its place.


The day I took the first and last photo's was obviously foggy. That was because I was feeling arty. Now while I feel they are impractical to get a decent idea of the place, that's all I have for now. I'll try and get some clear ones over the next few days, either with the phone or the actual camera.

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot

Geoj posted:

So do railroads share engines as well as rolling stock? Here in Ohio I've been seeing BNSF units pulling trains on CSX/NS lines, and according to the system map on BNSF's website they don't go any further east than Chicago.

Yes, we can and do!

The rail road calls it "horse power hours" Basically when one railroad has a shortage of power and another says hey we have some extra engines you can use, but you owe us some power in the future.

There is also lease units, which works like a rental car agreement.

And usually, if you see a solid block of units it means that its a "run through" train. Basically the railroads agree that its easier to leave the units on a train instead of swapping engines around. The UP/CSX has a train that runs from North Platte Ne, to Selkirk, NY (around Albany) in about 3 days.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde

Geoj posted:

So do railroads share engines as well as rolling stock? Here in Ohio I've been seeing BNSF units pulling trains on CSX/NS lines, and according to the system map on BNSF's website they don't go any further east than Chicago.

Some times "foreign trains" that have a lot of cars are going to the same general destination will be handed off in what they call "interchange". In some of these cases some or all of the locomotives will stay on. These trains will stay nearly in whole for convenience and efficiency until they get the main destination region. Often times cars going back to the foreign railroad will be collected, put back behind that power, turned around, and sent back to them at the same interchange point.

Additionally, with all of the weather related track closures recently, there are "reroutes". With reroutes, there are often foreign trackages that can help you get around your own flooded/washed-out/wrecked tracks. These can also be used in the event of a derailment too. Entire trains will be run on foreign line and then returned to their own line past the area of damage.

meltie
Nov 9, 2003

Not a sodding fridge.

bytebark posted:

Here's what an ALCO RSD-15 "Alligator" (actually the same one pictured on the top of the wiki page) looks/sounds like while being fired up after hibernating for 20+ years. Lots of "Alco smoke" and audio diesel bliss.

Edit:


:downs: Oh, right!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_YbT2nLQcQ

Reminds me a lot of the british Class 37s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv_cGG56QA4

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

tehsid posted:

Ah, I was wondering if there was a thread for train people on SA. I found it.


I've never been all that interested in trains. They look cool, sometimes, but the size or power never really struck until I started my new job as a tradesman's assistant at a rail-yard in Melbourne, about 3 months ago.

Now they are very, very cool and I'm learning a LOT about them.

So what do I do? I work an 'underfloor wheel lathe'. Its very cool. It basically takes out any flat spots or skids in the wheels, by taking out between 10 and 30mm. Some locomotives we have to take off more, but that's dependent on how many kilometers they've done.

Anyway, have a few pic's from work. And if you have any questions, I'll do my best to answer, or find out the answer's, if anybody is interested. I'll also take a few photos of any cool trains that come in.

(Sorry for the crappy iPhone 3GS pics... If I can I'll get a few more pics with a normal camera, but for now, these will do.)


The wheel lathe itself, facing the direction the trains roll out.


A passenger train on the lathe being turned.


A faulty train that was sitting there for ages (before I started). Some fool put in a window that was 10cm to small on the top, it only got fixed about a week ago... now another one is in its place.


The day I took the first and last photo's was obviously foggy. That was because I was feeling arty. Now while I feel they are impractical to get a decent idea of the place, that's all I have for now. I'll try and get some clear ones over the next few days, either with the phone or the actual camera.
I didn't properly read the start of this post and then I saw the last photo and thought "I recognise those buckets of poo poo"

Is that the train repair centre out in Bayswater?

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

meltie posted:

Reminds me a lot of the british Class 37s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv_cGG56QA4

For some reason, I figured they'd use an air start on something that big.

Just how big are the starters on those things?

tehsid
Dec 24, 2007

Nobility is sadly overrated.

You Am I posted:

I didn't properly read the start of this post and then I saw the last photo and thought "I recognise those buckets of poo poo"

Is that the train repair centre out in Bayswater?

Na, we're out in Newport.

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints

some texas redneck posted:

For some reason, I figured they'd use an air start on something that big.

Just how big are the starters on those things?

I'm more interested in the knocking noise on startup? Is that even remotely normal??? Last diesel I encountered that made that kind of noise is in my shed getting a full tear down and rebuild!!!

meltie
Nov 9, 2003

Not a sodding fridge.

Ferremit posted:

I'm more interested in the knocking noise on startup? Is that even remotely normal??? Last diesel I encountered that made that kind of noise is in my shed getting a full tear down and rebuild!!!

They're such low RPM, judging by the video at least that's the sound of an exhaust valve opening?

charliemonster42
Sep 14, 2005


meltie posted:

They're such low RPM, judging by the video at least that's the sound of an exhaust valve opening?

Sounded like it was just one of the cylinders firing, then they seemed to add more in as the engine sped up. It also got worse as the engine revved up, then died off as it spun down.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

tehsid posted:

Na, we're out in Newport.
Ah, that kinda makes sense with all the mist, being near the sea. I thought it was Bayswater cos of the all fog at this time of the year around that area.

Is the train museum still down there?

Red Marx
Dec 21, 2005

This is the perfect opportunity to post one of my favorite train pictures I've taken. It's not really going to give you an engineering boner, but it does well to represent the great relationship that some places have with rail.

http://imgur.com/pNtBx
Rocky Neck State Park in Connecticut.

auzdark
Aug 29, 2005

Mercy is the cry of the soul that stirred,
Mercy is the cry and it's never heard.

You Am I posted:

Ah, that kinda makes sense with all the mist, being near the sea. I thought it was Bayswater cos of the all fog at this time of the year around that area.

Is the train museum still down there?

I had no idea that there was any sort of museum there! I think I'll have to check this one out! (if its still there!)

[edit]: Just checked the website http://www.arhsvic.org.au/ and it is apparently closed for works in Feb 2010 - it appears they don't update their website very much!

auzdark fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jul 15, 2011

tehsid
Dec 24, 2007

Nobility is sadly overrated.

You Am I posted:

Ah, that kinda makes sense with all the mist, being near the sea. I thought it was Bayswater cos of the all fog at this time of the year around that area.

Is the train museum still down there?
I believe it is still open. There are visitors there most weekends, so I'd say so. I myself haven't had a good chance to take a look, yet.

porkfriedrice
May 23, 2010

Red Marx posted:

This is the perfect opportunity to post one of my favorite train pictures I've taken. It's not really going to give you an engineering boner, but it does well to represent the great relationship that some places have with rail.

http://imgur.com/pNtBx
Rocky Neck State Park in Connecticut.

I always liked going to Rocky Neck as a kid, mainly to watch the trains. This was before the Acela electrification. At that time the old telegraph poles were still standing, and there was no security fence. I'm surprised there weren't accidents there, as it was easy to get to the ROW. There is also a pedestrian bridge up near the WPA-built pavilion that crosses over the tracks. It always seemed so high up as a kid, but it really isn't that high. All in all a nice place to explore and see a few trains go by.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

tehsid posted:


A faulty train that was sitting there for ages (before I started). Some fool put in a window that was 10cm to small on the top, it only got fixed about a week ago... now another one is in its place.

Those look like the BART subway trains in San Francisco, California.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde

CharlesM posted:

Those look like the BART subway trains in San Francisco, California.

I seem to remember a big hubbub about the newer cars/trains for BART being made in France years ago when I lived there.

found this:
http://homepage.mac.com/lpetrich/www/transit/BA_Transit.html

quote:

In the late 1980's, BART bought from Alsthom of France (of TGV fame) 150 flat-cab cars

crutt
Sep 13, 2003
Hamhock Captain.
I just recently applied for a job with bnsf in denver. Crossing my fingers!

beep-beep car is go
Apr 11, 2005

I can just eyeball this, right?



Yay, a train thread!


Rockport Trains by jpitha, on Flickr

Since I take the commuter rail every day, I wind up taking a lot of photos of it, and am generally interested in the rolling stock and motive power. My knowledge is really limited to the MBCR and the T though I really like Mass transit and try to ride trains and subways and trollies whenever I visit a new city.

kathmandu
Jul 11, 2004

Youtube model train videos are almost always embarrassing and dorky and set to bad music. Not this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC0r_AXOss4

1. Holy poo poo, the sound. I am in love with the first 30 seconds or so of that video.
2. Look at the job this guy did of modeling the Tropicana Juice Train.
3. Yes, he's modeling the New York Central as if it never went away.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde
Not to derail but, this is train related. If you lived here imagine the aluminum you could collect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3yiRStQaHU&feature=related

This too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh1nFd4oqcc&feature=related

I love the crash beam to protect the bridge from these idiots causing a derailment.

B4Ctom1 fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Aug 6, 2011

dietcokefiend
Apr 28, 2004
HEY ILL HAV 2 TXT U L8TR I JUST DROVE IN 2 A DAYCARE AND SCRATCHED MY RAZR

B4Ctom1 posted:

Not to derail but, this is train related. If you lived here imagine the aluminum you could collect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3yiRStQaHU&feature=related

This too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh1nFd4oqcc&feature=related

I love the crash beam to protect the bridge from these idiots causing a derailment.

Less derailment and more incredibly expensive damage to the bridge structure for each moron that hits it.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Yeah, even if the bridge isn't damaged, you're going to need to send out someone to assess it anyway.

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde
Holy gently caress! New traincam video of freight train hitting a piece of track hanging over a washout.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a22_1312744691

like this:

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

B4Ctom1 posted:

Holy gently caress! New traincam video of freight train hitting a piece of track hanging over a washout.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a22_1312744691

:staredog:

Holy.poo poo. How the gently caress did it not derail? Or did it and just manage to stay upright?

B4Ctom1
Oct 5, 2003

OVERWORKED COCK
Slippery Tilde

some texas redneck posted:

:staredog:

Holy.poo poo. How the gently caress did it not derail? Or did it and just manage to stay upright?

Derailed badly, pure luck it kept moving forward shiny side up and windshield forward.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Any links to a report on the incident?

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

B4Ctom1 posted:

Holy gently caress! New traincam video of freight train hitting a piece of track hanging over a washout.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a22_1312744691

like this:


From the comments:

quote:

Goddamn graboids are getting smarter!

That is seriously horrifying though. What an awful noise.

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!

some texas redneck posted:

:staredog:

Holy.poo poo. How the gently caress did it not derail? Or did it and just manage to stay upright?

I think there's a video earlier in this thread showing attempts to blow up railway track in WW2 for derailing trains. They're surprisingly capable of jumping extremely large gaps in track and staying forward and upright, if not completely railed.

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
For what its worth, there has been 2 derailments... in the same spot in Denison, IA

http://www.ktiv.com/story/15182792/denison-ia-derailment-spills-coal-closes-crossing

I work on this line. I don't know what happened exactly, but either way :coal:. For what its worth, this is the double main that connects pretty much the west coast to the east. Before the recession, we would regularly move about 80 some trains a day.... Now its a little slower at roughly 65ish.

http://youtu.be/GtDbsBNBlio

This will give you just a small peak of how many trains we move.

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iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd

BrokenKnucklez posted:

For what its worth, this is the double main that connects pretty much the west coast to the east. Before the recession, we would regularly move about 80 some trains a day.... Now its a little slower at roughly 65ish.

Yup, I went to school at ISU in Ames and holy poo poo, there were a LOT of trains passing through there. When I wanted a scenic drive home to Omaha I'd take US 30 which parallels the UP main line for much of the trip.

I was disappointed I never got to get down to see the Kate Shelley High Bridge (highest double track trestle in the U.S.) while I was there because the area was closed for constructing the new span.

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