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ThisQuietReverie
Jul 22, 2004

I am not as I was.
http://digitalcomicmuseum.com/index.php?cid=659
Terrible camera related comics from the 40s that are completely awesome as kitsch.


http://digitalcomicmuseum.com/preview/index.php?did=8249&page=23
The quotes in this one are amazing.

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Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

Big Floppy posted:

Cross posting from coupons, Lightroom 3 is $150 with free shipping.

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Oh my god why did I choose to check this thread now instead of yesterday wwwwhhhyyyyy

:(

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Zikan posted:

Oh my god why did I choose to check this thread now instead of yesterday wwwwhhhyyyyy

:(

You know you want it. Lightroom is worth every penny.

Haggins
Jul 1, 2004

Just saw this this guy pop up on one of my news feeds:

http://carenalpertfineart.com/

He shoots food with a microscope, pretty cool stuff.

brad industry
May 22, 2004
Hah that's funny I just met her a few months ago (she shares a studio in SF with a guy I work with) and had no idea she was doing that. Awesome. Her commercial work is really good too.

Dread Head
Aug 1, 2005

0-#01

Prathm posted:

That owns.


e: What lens did you use for that?

Nikon micro 60mm f2.8 AF-D (the older one)

Haggins
Jul 1, 2004

brad industry posted:

Hah that's funny I just met her a few months ago (she shares a studio in SF with a guy I work with) and had no idea she was doing that. Awesome. Her commercial work is really good too.

I guess I should have read the "Caren" part before jumping to the gallery.

I HATE CARS
May 10, 2009

by Ozmaugh
Holy poo poo the comments on this article - http://www.jmg-galleries.com/blog/2007/08/15/why-i-hate-hdr-photo-technology-porn/ ...

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

The microscope stuff is awesome, and it's interesting to see how she still manages to have a photographer's eye with one and not just take random close-up pictures.

psylent
Nov 29, 2000

Pillbug
Six photographers test their rights in the City of London:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJH9F7Hcluo

There a few great moments in this video.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

psylent posted:

Six photographers test their rights in the City of London:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJH9F7Hcluo

There a few great moments in this video.

Very interesting, thanks for sharing.

Good to see that plod were using their brains there

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

spog posted:

Very interesting, thanks for sharing.

Good to see that plod were using their brains there

Awesome watch.

I almost fist pumped when the cops were supporting the photographers!

I also really liked that one building manager who offered to let them have access to the building as long as it wasn't commercial photography. That really through the photographers for a loop.

Paragon8 fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jul 20, 2011

scottch
Oct 18, 2003
"It appears my wee-wee's been stricken with rigor mortis."
Is that the case though? If it's for commercial work you need permission?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

scottch posted:

Is that the case though? If it's for commercial work you need permission?

Not really. Permission is required to enter if it's private property.

Agreements on what you do with the images afterwards is more of a contract issue.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

xzzy posted:

Not really. Permission is required to enter if it's private property.

Agreements on what you do with the images afterwards is more of a contract issue.

If you sell images of distinctive buildings you'd need a property release.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Paragon8 posted:

If you sell images of distinctive buildings you'd need a property release.

Maybe this isn't the right place for this kind of debate, but this is bullshit and I hate copyright. :argh:

If I record some photons while standing on public property, I should be able to do whatever I want with the results.

CarrotFlowers
Dec 17, 2010

Blerg.
I thought it was mentioned here once that there's a difference between selling a photo taken on public property of someone as fine art, and selling it as like stock photography or advertisement or whatever. Is that true? And if so, is it the same or different with buildings?

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


CarrotFlowers posted:

I thought it was mentioned here once that there's a difference between selling a photo taken on public property of someone as fine art, and selling it as like stock photography or advertisement or whatever. Is that true? And if so, is it the same or different with buildings?
That is generally true, and it is typically the case with buildings. There is a difference between selling a piece as art and using a piece as self-promotion (as that can indicate an endorsement). That's what model releases are for.

There are exceptions, of course, like this: http://www.diaart.org/sites/main/lightningfield which is explicitly defined as a work of art itself and is copyrighted.

pseudonordic
Aug 31, 2003

The Jack of All Trades

CarrotFlowers posted:

I thought it was mentioned here once that there's a difference between selling a photo taken on public property of someone as fine art, and selling it as like stock photography or advertisement or whatever. Is that true? And if so, is it the same or different with buildings?

No idea how it involves buildings, but here's what you're referencing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nussenzweig_v._DiCorcia

CarrotFlowers
Dec 17, 2010

Blerg.
Ah yeah. That makes a bit more sense. I can't imagine doing photography as anything other than a hobby for myself, as it seems to get really complicated with model releases, rights issues, usage contracts etc.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

Can someone explain how someone has copyrighted any image of the eiffel tower at night? How can that possibly work?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

A5H posted:

Can someone explain how someone has copyrighted any image of the eiffel tower at night? How can that possibly work?

The image of the Eiffel tower is copyrighted. This does not grant the photographer copyright over the Eiffel tower itself.

Same reason that modern recordings of Mozart can be copyrighted.. it's the performance that's significant.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

xzzy posted:

The image of the Eiffel tower is copyrighted. This does not grant the photographer copyright over the Eiffel tower itself.

Same reason that modern recordings of Mozart can be copyrighted.. it's the performance that's significant.

Huh? But how is it illegal for me to go and shoot somewhere and get the eiffel tower in the background? (If I try to sell the image)
It's not my fault there's a big building that I can see from my public place?
Unless I'm misunderstanding something.

robertdx
Mar 15, 2005

Lens slap
Not completely unrelated: http://jmcolberg.com/weblog/extended/archives/who_owns_cooling_towers/

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

A5H posted:

Huh? But how is it illegal for me to go and shoot somewhere and get the eiffel tower in the background? (If I try to sell the image)
It's not my fault there's a big building that I can see from my public place?
Unless I'm misunderstanding something.

:iiam:

Certain architectural "icons" have copyrights associated with them, and I have no idea how or why that works. It's completely counterintuitive.

But in general you are free to do anything you want with any picture you take while standing on public property. This doesn't mean you're immune to lawsuits, which is why most smart photographers carry around a pad of release forms. People can sue you for anything they want.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
This may be unfair, but I'm genuinely surprised that the Cops had their heads on straight. Good for them.

ThisQuietReverie
Jul 22, 2004

I am not as I was.

Martytoof posted:

This may be unfair, but I'm genuinely surprised that the Cops had their heads on straight. Good for them.

That's not unfair at all. It's the videographer, the recorded footage changes everything. I've only ever once had a police encounter that resembled anything from that video and that's because his partner's wife occasionally did engagement photos in front of the building that I was eyeballing.


I've taken to acting puzzled when asked by a cop or security guard why I'm taking pictures and explaining that taking pictures is what you do with a camera. Being reasonable in the face of intimidation has never got me anywhere.

Eeek
Mar 1, 2003

Sweet. The Unoffical Apple Weblog has used some of my pictures for the release of Lion today.

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/07/20/lion-ten-things-that-bug-me/

http://www.tuaw.com/2011/07/20/links-to-all-our-lion-tips-in-one-convenient-place/

If you are interested, they are from these sets:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/eeek5127/sets/72157627155402586/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/eeek5127/sets/72157627038073657/

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Eeek posted:

Sweet. The Unoffical Apple Weblog has used some of my pictures for the release of Lion today.
And asked/compensated you?

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Martytoof posted:

This may be unfair, but I'm genuinely surprised that the Cops had their heads on straight. Good for them.

Especially the first one who was (if I am not mistaken) a CSO (Police Lite)

ThisQuietReverie posted:

I've taken to acting puzzled when asked by a cop or security guard why I'm taking pictures and explaining that taking pictures is what you do with a camera. Being reasonable in the face of intimidation has never got me anywhere.

I've decided that if I face any issue, I shall speak in a foreign language to them and look blankly when they talk in English.

Shmoogy
Mar 21, 2007

spog posted:

I've decided that if I face any issue, I shall speak in a foreign language to them and look blankly when they talk in English.

I look forward to hearing from you regarding your experiment when you're released from federal prison in 20-30 years.

MrBlandAverage
Jul 2, 2003

GNNAAAARRRR
I haven't had any trouble yet but I understand that "Officer, am I being arrested, or am I free to go?" is a useful phrase.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
Something that just came to my mind: In "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow", the last shot is Gwyneth Paltrow taking the one last picture on her film camera, which she had saved for the "perfect" shot. After she took it, Jude Law informs her that the lens cap was still on. Couldn't she have taken the same shot again, since the frame with the lens cap wasn't exposed?

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.

FLX posted:

Something that just came to my mind: In "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow", the last shot is Gwyneth Paltrow taking the one last picture on her film camera, which she had saved for the "perfect" shot. After she took it, Jude Law informs her that the lens cap was still on. Couldn't she have taken the same shot again, since the frame with the lens cap wasn't exposed?

Depends on the camera. Many cameras have the shutter cocking and film advance linked together. One workaround would be to hold down the film rewind button while cocking the shutter which would cock the shutter but not advance the film, but that's not something a casual user would know about.

HPL fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Jul 21, 2011

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.

HPL posted:

Depends on the camera. Many cameras have the shutter cocking and film advance linked together. One workaround would be to hold down the film rewind button while cocking the shutter which would cock the shutter but not advance the film, but that's not something a casual user would know about.

Well on most SLRs, the film rewind button works as a double exposure control. I haven't seen that movie, so maybe that's not what she was using.

EDIT: hurrrr, if it was an SLR she would have known the lens cap was on. :downs:

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

McMadCow posted:

Well on most SLRs, the film rewind button works as a double exposure control. I haven't seen that movie, so maybe that's not what she was using.

EDIT: hurrrr, if it was an SLR she would have known the lens cap was on. :downs:

The film had her carrying around some generic rangefinder style camera, if I remember right.

FasterThanLight
Mar 26, 2003

xzzy posted:

The film had her carrying around some generic rangefinder style camera, if I remember right.

I haven't seen the movie but from what I'm seeing on the internet, it's an Argus C3. Those separate rewind and shutter cocking actions IIRC, so double exposures would be no problem.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
Especially since she's supposed to be a news photographer in the film, who should know this. Still, I found the film to be quite entertaining with a really unique setting à la Crimson Skies.

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

Martytoof posted:

This may be unfair, but I'm genuinely surprised that the Cops had their heads on straight. Good for them.

I've just had a look but can't find anything but I'm sure I read in the news a while back that a very important memo came down from some top dog in the UK police force that basically said "stop harassing photographers in public places, they have every right to photograph what they want in a public area".

Edit: this is the MET's stance on it http://www.met.police.uk/about/photography.htm

AceClown fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Jul 21, 2011

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spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Shmoogy posted:

I look forward to hearing from you regarding your experiment when you're released from federal prison in 20-30 years.

I should have been clearer that I would just feign ignorance of the English language to the security guard, not the police (if they were called).

Either the police officer sides with me and we can mock the security guard, or they stop and search me and I get to claim compensation from them and I can get a new lens: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/apr/19/police-payout-stop-mark-thomas

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