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Phat_Albert posted:Man does googles Chinese translation suck: http://translate.google.com/transla...sm%2Fdrz_01.htm DR-Z 400SM Despite the many years since there has been no significant improvement, but even by today's standards, DRZ-400SM is still a good car. I love my car. Edit: New page! Have an awesome Sumo crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhCj4tvKUTc TheDon01 fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jul 22, 2011 |
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Went for a ride yesterday, had a blast. Everytime I get on this thing I'm reminded how fun it is.
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Jul 24, 2011 22:43
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 Note also the positioning of the front brake.
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Jul 29, 2011 14:49
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2ndclasscitizen posted:
 The whole wheel is flipped around - fork tubes rotated around and axle flipped WHAT IS GOING ON HERE
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Jul 29, 2011 14:53
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The person who linked the photo on another forum thought it was probably to shorten the wheelbase/sharpen the geometry, sounds reasonable.
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Jul 29, 2011 15:30
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2ndclasscitizen posted:The person who linked the photo on another forum thought it was probably to shorten the wheelbase/sharpen the geometry, sounds reasonable. Shorten the wheelbase, sure. But what the gently caress is that going to do to your trail. I mean, trail's pretty drat important because too little of it means the motorcycle loses it's ability to self stabilize. I bet that thing is drat near unrideable, yet the guy himeself is like "Feels good man". Who is that?
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Jul 29, 2011 16:42
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Z3n posted:Shorten the wheelbase, sure. http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/April11/bicycle.html quote:While gyro and trail effects may contribute to self-stability, they are not the only causes, report Andy Ruina, professor of mechanics at Cornell, and colleagues in the Netherlands and at the University of Wisconsin. To prove it, they built a bicycle without any gyro or trail effects that can still balance itself. Their results are published in the April 15 issue of the journal Science. That may explain why he's okay without trail.
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Jul 29, 2011 21:31
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Coredump posted:http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/April11/bicycle.html You can make a bike that functions without it, but it's one of those things where small changes to trail can have a very dramatic effect on stability on the throttle and at high levels of lean. An upright bicycle being mainly self stabilizing is good, but how quickly it corrects is going to be super important when you're leaned over and hit a bump, whereas on a bicycle it coming back into line more slowly isn't a problem.
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Jul 29, 2011 21:38
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hooligan update: I succesfully wheelied several times today... I'd been trying since I got the DRZ, thought I was just too fat. Then I read online that you gotta tug on the bars. That did the trick. I'm gonna get in so much goddamn trouble now.
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Aug 2, 2011 02:31
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soy posted:hooligan update: I succesfully wheelied several times today... I'd been trying since I got the DRZ, thought I was just too fat. Then I read online that you gotta tug on the bars. That did the trick. Once you pop (a wheelie) the fun don't stop  On a sad note, today was the first time I rode since I shattered my forearm. It felt good to get back on the bike even with the crazy heat we've been having here lately. Sadly, I did no wheelies. Or stoppies. I'm probably pushing it getting back on the bike so soon anyway, didn't want to overdo things by hooning around. I'm pretty sure this was the first time I've ever ridden the KTM and NOT done a wheelie or stoppie. That's a bit... awesome. KTM <3
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Aug 2, 2011 02:40
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Is there any trick to stoppies? Seems like you would have to stand up a bit to raise the center... Stand up and move forward a bit I guess while gradually but firmly pressing front brake?
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Aug 2, 2011 04:31
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Hey spiff and zool, how did you two manage to live in Seattle with supermotos and never try to jump the drawbridges around here?
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soy posted:Is there any trick to stoppies? Seems like you would have to stand up a bit to raise the center... Stand up and move forward a bit I guess while gradually but firmly pressing front brake? Progressive but smooth application of the front brake to take advantage of the weight transfer. It's not about cog really, it's more about taking advantage of weight transfer.
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soy posted:hooligan update: I succesfully wheelied several times today... I'd been trying since I got the DRZ, thought I was just too fat. Then I read online that you gotta tug on the bars. That did the trick. Are you trying in first? If you're low in first and give it any amount of gas the front should come up. It should be balls easy to get the front entirely vertical in first. Second is a whole different story unfortunately.
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Aug 2, 2011 09:28
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JP Money posted:Are you trying in first? If you're low in first and give it any amount of gas the front should come up. It should be balls easy to get the front entirely vertical in first. Second is a whole different story unfortunately. Yeah I'm in first. I was trying to just accelerate quickly to get it up, but that didn't seem to work without pulling on the bars a bit. I think the pulling also allows my weight to shift back enough to get it up, once it's up a bit then rolling on the throttle brings it up more easily. Also I'm 6'5" 240lbs on a 100% stock DRZ400sm so it makes sense that it doesn't come up that easily. I haven't gotten it up in 2nd yet, practicing that on public street in LA is probably not wise. 
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Aug 2, 2011 16:44
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Sit on the passenger seat, and slap the throttle in second to start with, while leaning back and tugging gently on the bars, and it'll come up.  That's the sort of body positioning you're looking for. I'm leaning forward a bit there to balance out the bike because I'm at BP and don't need it to come up any more, plus it's easier to modulate the throttle with your arms bent a bit. Note foot tucked under the shifter for multi gear wheelies, and my other foot is covering the back brake. You cannot just accelerate forward, you have to slap the throttle to get it to come up. You can also add a bit of clutch to get it to play, or if it just don't want to come off the ground in second, you can try it in first. First tends to come up pretty quick though. COVER THE REAR BRAKE AND PRACTICE SETTING DOWN WHEELIES WITH THE BRAKE SO WHEN poo poo GOES A BIT TOO FAR YOU HAVE A SOLID RECOVERY INSTINCT. that's what stopped me from looping out Motomind's KLR
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Aug 2, 2011 16:50
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Slim Pickens posted:Hey spiff and zool, how did you two manage to live in Seattle with supermotos and never try to jump the drawbridges around here? It wasn't for a lack of desire... There are lots of fun things to jump off of in Seattle though, if you know where to look 
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Aug 2, 2011 17:51
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I'm down for getting some wheelies in too. I've been toying with pulling the front wheel up here and there at stopsigns, but I'm nowhere near pulling it up with purpose yet. I know the thing can do it, FCR'd DRZ 400SM with my skinny rear end on it, it'll lift the wheel with a spirited stoplight launch.
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Aug 2, 2011 20:14
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How do you guys resist? I can't NOT wheelie after leaving every single stop sign. I take back ways wherever I go just so I can do them. I also lately tend to get distracted on the ride home by poking around loading docks and back lots hoping for something to launch off. I've got some key spots picked out.
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Aug 2, 2011 20:18
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It's easy to resist in the part of LA I live because I seem to see a cop every half mile and there is no such thing as a back route. I do wanna try launching off some poo poo though.
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Aug 2, 2011 20:24
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I haven't found anything better here than railroad crossings where the road on one side is lower than the other side. Without a good lip on it though you don't really launch too far unless you hit it dangerously fast unfortunately. Take a ride up to SF and re-enact that famous video.
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Aug 2, 2011 20:26
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soy posted:It's easy to resist in the part of LA I live because I seem to see a cop every half mile and there is no such thing as a back route. Loading docks. JP Money posted:How do you guys resist? I can't NOT wheelie after leaving every single stop sign. I take back ways wherever I go just so I can do them. I uh, ride the GL500 in if I don't want to pull wheelies. The bike just kinda does it.
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Aug 2, 2011 20:38
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soy posted:It's easy to resist in the part of LA I live because I seem to see a cop every half mile and there is no such thing as a back route. We should hang out.
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Aug 2, 2011 21:29
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For me a big part of wheelies was just getting comfortable with it. It was like all of the sudden I could hold first up for half a block, and then started pulling up second when I shifted. Probably no more then 9:00 at the most, but I'm dong them loving everywhere now.
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Aug 2, 2011 22:00
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The problem with learning wheelies is overcoming the feeling that you're going over. At first, even when you have the wheel like a foot off the ground it feels like you're shining the moon, and your brain tells you to back off.
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Aug 2, 2011 22:50
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http://vimeo.com/27139748 via https://plus.google.com/sparks/interests/supermoto Supermoto class looks so awesome.
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Gnaghi posted:For me a big part of wheelies was just getting comfortable with it. It was like all of the sudden I could hold first up for half a block, and then started pulling up second when I shifted. Probably no more then 9:00 at the most, but I'm dong them loving everywhere now. CA: Dong Wheelies loving Everywhere.
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Aug 2, 2011 23:41
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SaNChEzZ posted:We should hang out. Fo sho Empire Waffles posted:http://vimeo.com/27139748 via https://plus.google.com/sparks/interests/supermoto Yeah I'm planning on hitting up http://socalsupermoto.com/ sometime later this year when its cooled off a bit more. $200 for a class, trackday, and a sumo to use on the track. Not a bad deal!
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I'm gonna be there on Aug 17th. Bunch of my friends are doing it so I'm just gonna show up and hang out and ride the KTM around. If you want to talk about discounts, send me a message...I think we're pretty close to a bulk discount.
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Z3n posted:CA: Dong Wheelies loving Everywhere. I keep meaning to try stoppies but the only time it occurs to me to try I'm rolling up to a red light at an intersection. Dong indeed. 
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Aug 3, 2011 02:02
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My favourite is the stoppie up to the red light and then a wheelie off as it turns green without putting your feet down. Requires some luck and timing but I've managed it twice now.
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I only managed a couple small wheelies with the DRZ before I traded it for my DL650  Now I feel like I'm missing out on all the fun.
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After extensive testing, yes sitting in the passenger seat and quickly revving up in 1st definitely is the easiest way to get the wheel up. I like the feeling of coming up when sitting a bit more forward though, but I'm not able to get the wheel up more than a foot or so in the front no matter what I do. Still no successful stoppies, just a lot of my balls being crushed as I try to stop really hard with front brake. I think it's mainly just that I'm a vagine and am not going fast enough.
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soy posted:After extensive testing, yes sitting in the passenger seat and quickly revving up in 1st definitely is the easiest way to get the wheel up. I like the feeling of coming up when sitting a bit more forward though, but I'm not able to get the wheel up more than a foot or so in the front no matter what I do. It comes up slower the farther towards the front you sit, which is why it's nice to do power ups in second while sitting on the passenger seat, enough gearing to let you ride it for a bit, and doesn't come up as aggressively. For stoppies, get your weight all up on the front of the bike, and progressively apply the brakes, just keep squeezing harder and harder. You'll probably need to use 4 fingers, if you're not already. You want to keep the front diving as much as possible, because if the front is diving, you're transferring weight forward and that's the key to stoppies. You don't need to be going fast, you can try bearing down really hard on the front brake (but always smoothly!) when you're coming to a stop at about 5mph. That should pop the rear off the ground a bit.
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Aug 5, 2011 18:58
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Clutch it up you wusses.
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Aug 5, 2011 19:02
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soy posted:Fo sho Really though, you don't have PMs if you use google talk, aylesworth (at) google's mail service.Let's get this goin.
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How would a converted 250 or 450 four stroke do in a city where the speed limits aren't much higher than 35-45mph? I think my commute will be like 10ish miles round trip a day. I'm just worried about blowing it up in less than a year. I think I'd like to spend 2k-ish so we're not talking a race bike here. (I'm excited.) BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Aug 6, 2011 |
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Aug 6, 2011 05:35
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BlackMK4 posted:How would a converted 250 or 450 four stroke do in a city where the speed limits aren't much higher than 35-45mph? Really well. Id probably look for a woods bike instead of a proper 'crosser, but with a radiator fan installed and some mods for stuff like coolant overflow you should be set.
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Sounds pretty good, I was planning on riding single track too. It's all woods where I am going.
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Cool DRZ wheelie video with trippy music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgMM_31afe4
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