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VikingSkull posted:Also what is it with FedEx and UPS cargo pilots yanking the stick back super hard on full throttle and climbing pretty radically? Is that a cargo pilot thing? Every morning I get to see the two of them take off like SAC scrambled them, and it's awesome. No pax == give no fucks maybe? Or a pretty safe chance that the guys flying those cargo planes are also reservist bomber pilots (or used to be bomber pilots before leaving the service). Unless that was a 80s/90s thing and that no longer happens.
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Pallets don't bitch.
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slidebite posted:As a Canadian I would have loooooved to see a competition that put the F35 against the Pak-FA or, well, pretty much anything else for that matter. There isn't anything out there that can effectively compete against the F-35. The Pak-Fa is where the F-22 was in 1995, ie nowhere near combat ready despite what Putin says. Anyway, they're likely to have different missions, the F-35 being more the multirole fighter while the Pak-Fa will end up being more of an air-to-air player. The F-35's nearest competition is the Super Hornet, no question. Next up is probably the F-16. Canada made the right call. They just got bit by the same problem as every other buyer: fiscal stupidity at every level of the program up to and including every partner nation.
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Jul 23, 2011 00:39
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Epic Fail Guy posted:Pallets don't bitch.
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Jul 23, 2011 00:42
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That's what I figured. It stops me in my tracks every day. Sometimes they throw a radical banking turn in, just because.
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Jul 23, 2011 01:21
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Lightweights.
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Cygni posted:Whats really odd is honestly, nobody was freaking out to that level. Lots of people gripping their arm rests for dear life, but zero screaming, nobody running down the aisles, none of that. Full L-1011, everyone pretty much silent with their seatbelts on as the stewardess raced around with fire extinguishers looking for fire. It only takes one person screaming to set a whole lot of others off. I remember coming into Wellington, NZ on a particularly bad day (its an interesting airport at the best of times). It was pretty rough on the first approach but everyone seemed fairly calm but the pilot decided they needed to abort the landing and try again. As soon as the engines spooled up again some woman down the back of the plane started screaming, then one up the front, then a dude in the middle then all of a sudden ten or so people were absolutely freaking out and didn't calm down until they were off the plane. This was on a little BAe 146 regional jet (the 146s are the smaller jets with four engines and a high wing in the clip) which did always seem to get blown around more than the 737s but no one was in any real danger. I can only imagine what would have happened in a real emergency situation. Here is a clip with a few Wellington landings (might want to mute it) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LaAkAyoz0 . I fly in and out of Wellington quite often and its surprising how often the cabin applauds once the plane reaches the gate.
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Jul 23, 2011 02:31
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Epic Fail Guy posted:gently caress me, I get to experience one of the pride of Delta's MD-90s next week As much as I hate flying Delta and everything about their "operation", I like their MD90s a ton (provided I get 1st class or a seat towards the front).
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two_beer_bishes posted:As much as I hate flying Delta and everything about their "operation", I like their MD90s a ton (provided I get 1st class or a seat towards the front). BonzoESC posted:Trip report: MD-90s are quite quiet up front. Getting status with an airline (Delta, in my case) was a great idea.
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Jul 23, 2011 07:01
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I'm 6'3". Anything short of a 320 or 777 is contortionism.
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Jul 23, 2011 16:44
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VikingSkull posted:
Biz-jet jockeys too. The airport I live next to has a maintainence facility for Cessnas/Gulfstreams/Lears and the like. It's easy to tell which jets have VIPs on board and which are just ferry flights by how quickly they reach 8000ft. Like rocketships some of them.
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dissss posted:It only takes one person screaming to set a whole lot of others off. I was on a SWA jet en-route to Salt Lake City when we had to make an emergency landing in El Paso (a passenger in the front of the plane had a heart attack while we were in the air). We landed in some nasty cross-winds. The main gear was on the runway and the nose was still in the air when a big gust of wind hit the plane and turned us at least 15 degrees off-axis. Most of the passenger cabin said, "Ohhhhh poo poo..." at the same moment, then we all started laughing. Might as well die with a smile, AMIRIGHT? The pilot kicked a little rudder, straightened us out and brought the nose down. After we reached the gate, the pilot switched on the intercom and started cracking jokes about giving us an E-Ticket ride. I love SWA.
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Jul 23, 2011 21:04
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Out at a shoot earlier today, when I heard something promising and promptly looked up ... Looked her up afterwards, that's the Sally B, Europe's last airworthy flying fortress. Makes a fantastic sound when she's that low. 
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Jul 24, 2011 05:31
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Update on the F-22 grounding...CO was getting into the system (possibly) due to starting the jets in improperly ventilated flow through slots before taxiing. More here. Edit: Those are some nice pictures. Also, I got to fly on an Australian C-130J during a Red Flag sortie last week, up in the PARC...was on the flight deck for the low level portion of the flight, they fly the poo poo out of those -J models. Pretty sure we exceeded 60 degrees of bank several times, and we weren't higher than 300' AGL for any part of that portion of the flight. iyaayas01 fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Jul 24, 2011 |
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Jul 24, 2011 09:58
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What are the ---O- beneath the engines on that B-17? (And no, I don't mean the landing gear!)iyaayas01 posted:Update on the F-22 grounding...CO was getting into the system (possibly) due to starting the jets in improperly ventilated flow through slots before taxiing.
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grover posted:What are the ---O- beneath the engines on that B-17? (And no, I don't mean the landing gear!) I think it's part of the engine's turbosupercharging system. Here's a link to an old training film about them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFwwgbj9Bi8 The video is 22 minutes long, but they show a better view of the turbo on the B17 engine at 7:00 edit: edited out some of the quote, found a GE technical document describing their system, http://rwebs.net/avhistory/opsman/geturbo/geturbo.htm edit2: linked to correct part of video anemometer fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Jul 24, 2011 |
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anemometer posted:I think it's part of the engine's turbosupercharging system. Here's a link to an old training film about them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFwwgbj9Bi8 grover fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Jul 24, 2011 |
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Eichel posted:Out at a shoot earlier today, when I heard something promising and promptly looked up ... Oh man, that's a beauty too. Just LOOKING at the ball turret spooks me out. What a horrible job that was.
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Jul 24, 2011 22:58
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Epic Fail Guy posted:I'm 6'3". Anything short of a 320 or 777 is contortionism. I don't fly if I can help it.
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Revolvyerom posted:I end up getting the "oh, you're that rear end in a top hat" look. Shoot that look right the gently caress back!
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Jul 25, 2011 01:05
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Epic Fail Guy posted:Pallets don't bitch. No, they break loose, all the cargo winds up in the tail and you crash and die! 
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Saga posted:No, they break loose, all the cargo winds up in the tail and you crash and die! One need only watch the end of The Living Daylights to learn about the dangers of cargo pallets.
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no pallets don't break the plane I work under you 
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Found a pretty clear shot of Big Beautiful Doll after the bail-out at Duxford. I think that it clearly puts paid to the idea that Rob Davies could have "brought her in" as some have thought. He reported that he had ZERO elevator control. This picture shows the "good" side even. You can see where the Skyraider's wing sliced right at where the radiator scoop is, the tail is visibly buckled downward, and it is likely that the control cables were seriously damaged, if not severed. Crazy thing is, they have already trucked the remnants back to Germany, and it will almost certainly be rebuilt - i.e. they will build a "new" Mustang around the data plate and clear papers that this one still has.
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I love concept craft. Seeing a completely new technology or revisiting old tech in a new way. Boeing have gone and revisited pulse jets or, as they call it, Pulse-Ejector-Thrust-Augmentors. Now Gizmodo, being Gizmodo, naturally had to compare it to the Millennium Falcon, but it's more like having dozens of tiny jets under the fuselage. Originally developed by a Russian engineer, it was adapted by the nazis for the V1 'buzz bomb'. But their designs sucked. They failed, had poor engine life, were slow and noisy. But Boeing revisited the concept and has made an engine with no moving parts and - here's the part I really like - can fly through heavy debris clouds and ash and still work fine. Great for the next time a volcano shuts down all of Europe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ousW3b50M1Q
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Gorilla Salad posted:I love concept craft. Seeing a completely new technology or revisiting old tech in a new way. How hot is the exhaust from these? The navy already had some concern that F-35 and V-22 exhausts would require specialised landing pads on carriers to avoid melting the deck.
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They didn't say in the video or any of the links in the Gizmodo article. But dozens of little jets spraying straight down can't be too good for the lawn.
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Gorilla Salad posted:I love concept craft. Seeing a completely new technology or revisiting old tech in a new way. I know looks are probably one of the last things on their minds, but god drat that virtual model is ugly.
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Slothophile posted:How hot is the exhaust from these? The navy already had some concern that F-35 and V-22 exhausts would require specialised landing pads on carriers to avoid melting the deck.
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Gorilla Salad posted:I love concept craft. Seeing a completely new technology or revisiting old tech in a new way. When my buddies and I saw Battle Los Angeles, one of their major gripes was the very shaky and hap-hazard way that the invader's aircraft flew. Complaining that the thrust pulses made it seem terribly ineffective. Then I was all "it's a real thing you goddamn cuntsacks" and showed them the Multiple Kill Vehicle.
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movax posted:One need only watch the end of The Living Daylights to learn about the dangers of cargo pallets. This is what happens when you dick with cargo. Merry (improperly loaded) Christmas trees! http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19731215-1
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Boomerjinks posted:Then I was all "it's a real thing you goddamn cuntsacks" and showed them the Multiple Kill Vehicle. The MKV is so terribly cool, and its almost creepy how in tests on earth it just hangs in the air...
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grover posted:F-35 and V-22 don't require special pads for takeoff and landing, just for tests where they run the engines at full power for extended times, and that's fairly economical to address. There's a bit more to it than that, and it involves more than just running the engines at full power. Here's the RFP: DARPA posted:The deployment of the MV-22 Osprey has resulted in ship flight deck buckling that has been attributed to the excessive heat impact from engine exhaust plumes. Navy studies have indicated that repeated deck buckling will likely cause deck failure before planned ship life. With the upcoming deployment of the F-35B Short Take Off and Vertical Landing (STOVL) Joint Strike Fighter (JSF), it is anticipated that the engine exhaust plumes may have a more severe thermo-mechanical impact on the non-skid surface and flight deck structure of ships. Harriers routinely rip up the antiskid, but this is heating the deck enough for it to buckle. It's not just full-power run, it's even at idle; on Bataan it was happening in as little as 20 minutes. Interim fixes include heat-spreaders that need to be laid on the deck under the nacelle, and parking the aircraft with the engine you're going to run out over the water, but that latter's not always an option. DARPA's looking for more permanent solutions, especially for the F-35 which will be worse for the decks than the V-22 by a long ways.
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CommieGIR posted:The MKV is so terribly cool, and its almost creepy how in tests on earth it just hangs in the air... They should have kept funding it for the cool factor. But alas...
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F-35C test catapult launch: http://youtu.be/NkNZfu3EdvA Progress?
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Cool vid, but the C model isn't the problem...B is.
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Godholio posted:Cool vid, but the C model isn't the problem...B is. It's cool though, a stealthy (sort of) supersonic STOVL strike fighter is totally a necessary requirement for the Navy's army's air force to have and the use of said STOVL fighter for serious air defense absent a CSG is totally realistic given that we have 11 loving super carriers but would be willing to risk several thousand Marines on amphibs without bothering to deploy a CSG or two for air defense. :chesty: 
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Fun fact about the Navy version of the F-35: engineered to be able make it back to ship with only one engine running.
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