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That MBE was gibberish. Every question I read I was like "I know the answer! Bob had no duty to protect and wins!" then I read the answers and they are all like "Bob wins because of he has potatoes" "Bob wins because he is tall" and I'm like wtf. There was one question where an ambiguous "he" in the question made it impossible to tell if a witness was testifying that the witness or an employer had sex with an employee. I don't think the hard part is supposed to be figuring out what the question is trying to say.
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Hope the bar is going well for everyone, congrats to those done, lol at those with another day. I've got about one more week left as a BigLaw SA and these last two weeks have been poo poo. Not oppressively hard hours or getting yelled at or any of that, but complicated projects that make me feel like a total dumbass. FYI, doing M&A in California can be a pain in the dick especially when you're noob status.
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Just finished taking the Michigan bar and I feel pretty good about it, honestly. The essay choices could have been worse and the MBE was not all that bad. I saw a lot of questions that were variants of the questions that the NCBEX lets you purchase and take online. I think more people should do this...unless of course I fail. Anyway, I got a job with the Michigan Court of Appeals Research Division that starts August 15th. I'm pretty sure I only have to pass the bar by my year-end review, which gives me at least one more shot at it.
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Jul 28, 2011 06:27
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Nero posted:That MBE was gibberish. Every question I read I was like "I know the answer! Bob had no duty to protect and wins!" then I read the answers and they are all like "Bob wins because of he has potatoes" "Bob wins because he is tall" and I'm like wtf. When I took it (and was studying for it), I'd really get frustrated with poor writing. That thing you mentioned where they phrase the answer in terms of facts instead of law is infuriating.
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Jul 28, 2011 06:56
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You all realize that if you pass the bar you actually have to be lawyers right? (Ok, those 2 of you with jobs)
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Jul 28, 2011 07:44
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nm posted:You all realize that if you pass the bar you actually have to be lawyers right? I don't know, there are people here who've passed two or three bars and are doing other stuff.
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Jul 28, 2011 14:47
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MoFauxHawk posted:I don't know, there are people here who've passed two or three bars and are doing other stuff.
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nm posted:Hence my note. Well they have jobs in different fields, some of them, but they're the most bar passingest people we know. Like Hookars. She did have to be a lawyer for a while though so you're right. And Ainsley went to law school and now he's a professional writer! If there's one thing I've learned from the success stories in this thread it's that law school can lead to many different lucrative and fulfilling careers. MoFauxHawk fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jul 28, 2011 |
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Jul 28, 2011 21:59
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Wow, Texas afternoon essays were harsh.
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Roger_Mudd posted:Wow, Texas afternoon essays were harsh. gently caress it, I think I'll be looking at this poo poo again in February.
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CaptainScraps posted:gently caress it, I think I'll be looking at this poo poo again in February. That one property question was so awesome I had a lady adversely possessing land from herself. I knew it was crazy but it was the best I had. Edit: \/ \/ yeah the dude said "6 to 1 it's guardianship" rear end. Roger_Mudd fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jul 28, 2011 |
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Jul 28, 2011 22:48
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Roger_Mudd posted:That one property question was so awesome I had a lady adversely possessing land from herself. I knew it was crazy but it was the best I had. Gotta be points for that three year AP under color of title. Also said something about inquiry notice. I got RAPED on trusts. Barbri guy said "It's trust, trusts, guardianship. Always. And we've had two trusts in a row the past two times. It's gonna be guardianship." G-Mawwwwwww fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jul 28, 2011 |
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Jul 28, 2011 22:55
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The Wise Teen posted:Did not expect the MBE to be harder than the essays That's probably because it's not. I'd say more, but by breaking the book seal I guess I had a binding contract to never talk about the MBE ever, and that paragraph was definitely written by LAWYERS so don't bother arguing THE LAW with them... Also, it sounds like MO and MN used the exact same bullshit civpro question for the essays. 
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The MBE seems harder because you can be torn between two answers. In fact, the more you know, the more second guessing you'll do. The essays are actually harder though. You just don't know that your answer is completely wrong. I didn't get my scores (CA), but I scored high enough on the MBE to pass into MN (145). I felt pretty lovely about the MBE before.
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I figure we all have about as much a chance of winning this as finding a job: http://www.usanetwork.com/series/suits/sweepstakes/legallife/
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Even if you never attend a lecture or crack another book, just doing a couple thousand practice questions over the course of a month will easily boost an MBE score by 25%. That kind of prep is a no-brainer in my book. Out of curiosity, anyone here know how ess grading typically works? How much do they hate incomplete answers where you ran out of time vs. more complete ones if you just made some crap up? In other words, how terrible is too terrible?
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Jul 29, 2011 00:24
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Whatever happened to suitchat? I'm going for a fitting for a bespoke suit tomorrow morning. Anything I need to be aware of or watchful for before I pull the trigger?
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Jul 29, 2011 00:29
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Double-postin' about USA's wacky quirks.quote:No law degree, no problem. USA is giving you the chance to live like a lawyer —no legal training or power suit required! Enter now to win a cardboard box papered with rejection letters, complete with glory hole and coin slot. Is Suits as dumb as the commercials look? yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jul 29, 2011 |
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Jul 29, 2011 00:32
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Priority offers day for law firms in Perth, Australia. It's 7:30AM and I'm sitting here rocking back and forth in anxiety. It would be disappointing to be a top 10 student and not get an offer from a top tier law firm, but pessimism indicates this is the likely outcome.
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Jul 29, 2011 00:36
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yronic heroism posted:Out of curiosity, anyone here know how ess grading typically works? How much do they hate incomplete answers where you ran out of time vs. more complete ones if you just made some crap up? In other words, how terrible is too terrible?
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Neurosis posted:Priority offers day for law firms in Perth, Australia. It's 7:30AM and I'm sitting here rocking back and forth in anxiety. It would be disappointing to be a top 10 student and not get an offer from a top tier law firm, but pessimism indicates this is the likely outcome. Are you drinking in celebration or drinking in sorrow?
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Jul 29, 2011 01:43
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MaximumBob posted:Whatever happened to suitchat? Make sure your suit has functioning buttons on the fireman's flap
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Jul 29, 2011 01:55
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MaximumBob posted:Whatever happened to suitchat? The most expensive fabrics don't always wear well, but the cheap fabric suck. Basically middle of the road for anything but a special suit. Greyish linings are for pansies. I recommend starting with something dark reddish. Goes well with a red tie, conservative enough for anywhere. Start with a dark charcoal. None of my suits are off the rack  (Get some good shoes too) yronic heroism posted:
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Jul 29, 2011 02:10
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Penguins Like Pies posted:Are you drinking in celebrationr or drinking in sorrow? Fifteen minutes with no call into the offers period and it looks like sorrow. Whata great way for the world to poo poo on all my hard work.
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Jul 29, 2011 02:18
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Neurosis posted:Fifteen minutes with no call into the offers period and it looks like sorrow. Whata great way for the world to poo poo on all my hard work. Aww, I'm sorry.  It'll work out though. Things always work out (when you're not in the States).I didn't get a call in the morning of my call day and I ended up with one of the best jobs out there. 
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Thanks. Looks like I'll be slumming it for a year at a second rate firm. It's really frustrating. I'm not socially retarded and I have good grades but I am cripplingly bad at interviews.
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Jul 29, 2011 02:48
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MaximumBob posted:Whatever happened to suitchat?
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MaximumBob posted:Whatever happened to suitchat? (2) Do you think they do bespoke seersucker? (3) If you're going bespoke, nm is right. Get something interesting for the inner lining. Nobody's ever going to see it while it's on you so it's not like you have to worry what others will think.
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Who are the NOLA lawyers here again and can they recommend a good suit-type place that's maybe a step above J.A.B./Wearhouse, my ancient wool suits are finally wearing out and I need something more light and breathable anyway since each city I work in is hotter and humider than the last 
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Dear Goon Bar Counsel, If an opposing party in a divorce case has posted a video to Youtube featuring him dropping his child on his head, am I morally obligated to do my best to make this video go viral?
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echopapa posted:Dear Goon Bar Counsel, Are you referring to your moral obligation as a human being or as a lawyer? All I remember from legal ethics is that these are usually diametrically opposite.
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Jul 29, 2011 03:57
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Elotana posted:Who are the NOLA lawyers here again and can they recommend a good suit-type place that's maybe a step above J.A.B./Wearhouse, my ancient wool suits are finally wearing out and I need something more light and breathable anyway since each city I work in is hotter and humider than the last sak's off fifth, nordstrom rack
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Soylent Pudding posted:Are you referring to your moral obligation as a human being or as a lawyer? All I remember from legal ethics is that these are usually diametrically opposite. Basically I want this guy to be humiliated without me losing my license.
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Jul 29, 2011 04:41
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10-8 posted:(2) Do you think they do bespoke seersucker?
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echopapa posted:Basically I want this guy to be humiliated without me losing my license. Yeah. I think your duty as a not worthless human being is to make it viral. As an attorney, I don't know. I want to think it's ok because they're not your client and it's publicly available, but I have no clue.
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Jul 29, 2011 05:43
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Soylent Pudding posted:Yeah. I think your duty as a not worthless human being is to make it viral. As an attorney, I don't know. I want to think it's ok because they're not your client and it's publicly available, but I have no clue. Dude dropped a baby on his head, filmed it and put it on Youtube. gently caress what the attorney is supposed to do unless his client was the one taping. e: this might be terrible legal advice, but I'm outta here, suckas
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Adar posted:e: this might be terrible legal advice, but I'm outta here, suckas Exactly. Our "ethical" rules are just hosed sometimes.
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Elotana posted:Who are the NOLA lawyers here again and can they recommend a good suit-type place that's maybe a step above J.A.B./Wearhouse, my ancient wool suits are finally wearing out and I need something more light and breathable anyway since each city I work in is hotter and humider than the last Brooks Brothers in Canal Place sells poplin suits, those are pretty cool in the summer.
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yronic heroism posted:Also, it sounds like MO and MN used the exact same bullshit civpro question for the essays. MO uses the Multistate Essay Exam which are just general questions made up by the NCBE that are meant to be administered by multiple states if the state chooses to use them. MN probably decided to go the MEE question route rather than make up their own.
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NY State bar completed. Hopefully I will never, ever go to the Javits Center again, because that poo poo was miserable. Somebody in the morning before the MBE approached me and said "Excuse me, do you know whether the US Constitution applies to criminal law?" "Well, yes. Yes it does." "OK, so that means that when you have a rape case, because that's a gender crime, you apply intermediate scrutiny?" Anyway, anybody got post-bar trips planned?
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