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Well this is something I haven't heard anything about at all. We may be getting new uniforms next summer? A set of combats that dries quickly would be pretty drat awesome, I must say. However, I don't like the idea of a mandarin collar.
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Barrakketh posted:Well this is something I haven't heard anything about at all. We may be getting new uniforms next summer? A set of combats that dries quickly would be pretty drat awesome, I must say. However, I don't like the idea of a mandarin collar. I can't wait to find ways to wear it differently and get jacked up for it. edit: Also, pads in your knees are a giant pain in the rear end and make your knees really sweaty. And what the hell is wrong with these things: 
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Jul 20, 2011 12:22
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acumen posted:I can't wait to find ways to wear it differently and get jacked up for it. Well the idea behind the new icu is that it isn't a complete revamp, just an incremental improvement.
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Jul 20, 2011 15:07
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mdivi posted:One of those kit bags was mine if it was in T1, and it was filled with really ugly civilian clothes. Some dirty underwear too! Dam wouldn't be a good haul, I could tell it was civi cloths cause they were not stuffed full. edit: It was T1 and an early morning flight from Hali to Toronto.
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Jul 20, 2011 22:14
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5 days, chicks and dudes. Envy me.
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Jul 22, 2011 00:10
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Where did you guys find pictures of the new combats? I've heard they have pockets that are zippered at the chest rather than buttoned, aswell.Morristron posted:5 days, chicks and dudes. Envy me. 5 days of what? Leave? If so I've been off since July 9th and don't have to go back to work until the 8th of August. Also I still have 9 annual left 
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My Spirit Otter posted:Where did you guys find pictures of the new combats? I've heard they have pockets that are zippered at the chest rather than buttoned, aswell. This is a horrible idea. Every CADPAT piece of clothing I own that has a zipper has a busted zipper. Also how am I going to not do up my bottom button  edit: VVV err right, misread what you said. I was mainly referring to the front zipper on the tac vest and smocks that we have. acumen fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jul 22, 2011 |
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Jul 22, 2011 02:07
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acumen posted:This is a horrible idea. Every CADPAT piece of clothing I own that has a zipper has a busted zipper. I've gone through quite a few sets of combats due to wear and tear and I have yet once to find a set where a zipper doesn't work. Maybe you packed on too much military muscle, o snap Edit: by zippered at the chest, I meant instead of 2 button pockets, they are two zippered pockets
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Jul 22, 2011 02:24
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Morristron posted:5 days, chicks and dudes. Envy me. I challenge you to beat my timing of 30 minutes to do all your outs, including kit return, and escape the base on the very last day.
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acumen posted:
Hell to pay if they don't put in a second zipper on the bottom to allow this. Anyways its about time, I've always been jealous of the ACU and their mandarin collars so you can pop them up under the frag vest. Man, brown boots, useable uniforms, useable raingear... I've only been in (and the reserves to boot) for 5 years and I still remember my old Mk3s, and non-CADPAT winter jacket, rubber rainjacket and lovely rucksack. Am I gonna be one of those fucks who bitches to new troops about how good they have it? Im only an infantry corporal with no tour for godsakes.
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swagger like us posted:Man, brown boots, useable uniforms, useable raingear... I've only been in (and the reserves to boot) for 5 years and I still remember my old Mk3s, and non-CADPAT winter jacket, rubber rainjacket and lovely rucksack. Am I gonna be one of those fucks who bitches to new troops about how good they have it? Im only an infantry corporal with no tour for godsakes. I have all of those except the Mk3s because they didn't have any in my size when I came in and had to order in the GPs. So, that's a no. (Res Sigop Pte  )
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poo poo, I asked for Mk. 3s, they are hella comfy. Which reminds me, I have to get mine resoled and fix some of the lace holes. They chew through laces like they are free from the battery qm or something.
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Jul 22, 2011 19:14
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The new rucksack is a loving nightmare. gently caress that poo poo. I have the acquisitions powerpoint on my drive at work. I'll take some of the slides tomorrow and post them here as screenshots or something when I get off work.
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tuyop posted:The new rucksack is a loving nightmare. gently caress that poo poo. By new rucks, do you mean the cadpat ruck or the basic/dp1/support trade issue ruck? Because the cadpat one is pretty awesome if you don't wear a frag vest
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My Spirit Otter posted:Because the cadpat one is pretty awesome if you don't wear a frag vest Really? It's essentially one gigantic pouch that makes it a nightmare for retrieving equipment/kit from inside it and the stipulation of not wearing a frag vest makes it an immensely horrible idea (since we're in the army and we wear armour). Jump rucks are the greatest way of strapping a house to your spine and the army is stupid for phasing them out. Also the new PDB is a great idea for exercises where you can have someone pick up your 30lb rucksack bag but if you have to continue humping it around after an insertion have fun.
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acumen posted:Really? It's essentially one gigantic pouch that makes it a nightmare for retrieving equipment/kit from inside it and the stipulation of not wearing a frag vest makes it an immensely horrible idea (since we're in the army and we wear armour). Well, with the frag vest on it just becomes a little less comfortable because the metal rods you mold to your back just kind of become a little useless. The best way to pack it is to roll your poo poo up into tubelike articles of clothing. and stick them in the same way you'd put cans of beer in a cooler. It's pretty easy and you can fit a lot of poo poo in there
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My Spirit Otter posted:Well, with the frag vest on it just becomes a little less comfortable because the metal rods you mold to your back just kind of become a little useless. The best way to pack it is to roll your poo poo up into tubelike articles of clothing. and stick them in the same way you'd put cans of beer in a cooler. It's pretty easy and you can fit a lot of poo poo in there I guess I should have clarified that it's terrible for my job. I see you're arty, and I haven't worked with you guys much outside of FOOs/FACs, so I don't know what you guys usually carry. My ruck usually has several night observation devices, various types of batteries for each of them (and radio batteries, lots of radio batteries), cables/wires/antennae, smoke grenades and other necessary-readily-accessible items like headlamps, signal panels, etc., extra ammunition, food, water, sleeping/warm kit, and occasionally another rifle. Having all that just jammed into one giant pouch is ludicrous, and even with additional pouches on the outside to separate things, it makes the main compartment a lot smaller and needing to be filled by things like uncompressed sleeping bags, which affects the balance of the whole thing. You're right, you can fit a lot of poo poo in there (I can fit in one if my legs hang out the bottom giant flap thing), but it's incredibly inefficient as a patrolling bag for light infantry. I recall hearing something about a new rucksack sometime ago, and maybe that's what tuyop is talking about. I'm sure it'll be crap again, but it can't be much worse than the CADPAT abominations we have now. Then again I don't know why I care so much, I'm out in 8 days 
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Yea we mainly keep a couple day's clothes other than that, our kit carries us, we don't carry our kit. Unless it's dismounted mortars, then it's a piece of the 88mm mortar, clothes, a tripack, extra ammo, food and if you're lucky enough a radio too. But other than that our trucks carry most of our poo poo, so we don't have to
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Yes I'm talking about the POS 80L cadpat monstrosity.
Also, sorry, I was busy today and didn't get to grabbing screens from the powerpoint. I'll do it tomorrow.
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What would be cool for a ruck is something like Kifaru's range of ultra-light rucks. A 85 litres modular ruck that weighs 2 lbs? Yes, please.
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      So there you go. I'll attach the PowerPoint at some point if you think it's a good idea. It's not classified or anything.
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That "Mandarin collar" or whatever actually looks sorta cool. There's way too much velcro on those combats though. I really hope they aren't trying to model them after the American uniforms; if I have to wear various unit patches and poo poo I'm going to be pissed.
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Personally I think those look wicked. If they are based off of the American uniforms, it will definitely be incentive for the fatties to loose weight because they will look terrible. Also with the tiny little rank spot, there is definitely no room for the unit name on there, so there might be unit patches.
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I uploaded the whole powerpoint. http://www.mediafire.com/?l53e18bhb23lqsd
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acumen posted:That "Mandarin collar" or whatever actually looks sorta cool. More room for morale patches, sounds good to me! Anyways, Im actually surprised that this thing is in the works. Colour me impressed. About time we got rid of the old FN mag pouches that looked like poo poo and were annoyingly useless in the field. Can anyone explain to me what's going on with the rolled up sleeve thing though? Anyways, great, we're getting rid of "gentleman" based uniforms, so when are we getting rid of the beret? 
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Jul 28, 2011 05:43
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The Ballcap headdress is the greatest thing ever and I'm very glad I will never ever have to wear a Beret again.
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swagger like us posted:Anyways, great, we're getting rid of "gentleman" based uniforms, so when are we getting rid of the beret? Berets are the bee's knees. Be careful what you wish for.
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Field caps all day every day Am I the only human being alive that actually preferred the old style webbing over the tac vest? I didn't really like the tac vest at all.
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MA-Horus posted:Field caps all day every day The tac vest is pretty worthless. Supposedly, a molle version is under trials as we speak, but I'm sure they'll find a way to gently caress it up.
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It would be great to see the army abandon its lovely proprietary "daisy chain" modular system and get a modular tac vest. I'm sorry. But I don't have the same pocket needs as a rifleman or log o or whatever.
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Jul 28, 2011 14:58
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It strikes me I should probably be posting in this thread. Anybody here going to CFSAC?
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CADPAT posted:It strikes me I should probably be posting in this thread. I'm not, but tell us about it.
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I haven't participated yet, but basically it's the CF Small Arms Competition, hosted this year at Connaught Ranges in Ottawa. Basically teams across Canada are assembled to shooting and compete in a variety of different challenges where the winners are awarded many prizes among them, the Queen's Medal. I'll dig up more details, but basically challenges include a 500m rundown, obstacle course, CASEVAC drills among other things all while shooting stuff. The winner is determined by time and targets hit and ties are broken by remaining rounds. e: There's also an official site, but because the Gov't and especially the military suck at websites, it's pretty broken and lacking information. Official site: http://armyapp.forces.gc.ca/CAC/default-eng.asp Here's an article: http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/commun/ml-fe/article-eng.asp?id=4304 quote:Each year in September, some of the top shots from throughout the CF and Canada, and around the world, gather for the CF Small Arms Competition (CFSAC) at Connaught Range and Primary Training Centre (CRPTC) in Ottawa. CADPAT fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Jul 28, 2011 |
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Flanker posted:The tac vest is pretty worthless. Supposedly, a molle version is under trials as we speak, but I'm sure they'll find a way to gently caress it up. I saw their prototypes or whatever a year or two ago. They actually look pretty good (albeit not nearly as customized and efficient as self-bought stuff); the unit will issue you your vest and several standard pouches, and then depending on your role (C9, Pl Comd, M203, etc.) you'll be issued other various pouches to accommodate your job. I still would prefer to use my own right, but these were definitely a huge step up from our current tac vest. CADPAT posted:It strikes me I should probably be posting in this thread. I really wish I could have gone this year, but my "retirement leave" from the reg force is during August, CFSAC's usual training time. Our team just got back from the Bisley shoot after performing very well last year in Connaught, and although it's a hell of a time training, it's a really good experience.
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I've never even heard of CFSAC or even had any idea what a gun camp was after 5 years in the regforce infantry (aside from a gun camp being mentionned once in IPSWQ followed by "we don't do that much anymore"). Got to the reserves and fired more live rounds in this one summer than the last 3 years in the regforce. LFWA why you no like shooting?
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I did the CFSAC once, except I was on the support side in a Class B contract. best thing was that because it was in Ottawa, I got to go home every night and sleep there instead of the stinky humid tents that we had to assemble times infinity. At least this year the plumbing works and it won't have poo poo filled sitting in the blazing sun and high heat that was the year I was there. I had a freaking sweet job, I basically spent my days sitting on my rear end playing Axis & Allies, riding a bike to collect the score cards, and if we had a ton of them helped input them into the computer to print out and put on the board. I'm still loving pissed that when we all got the chance to fire the Brit guns our group couldn't because we had last minute scores to complete. They should've put us at the loving front of the line so we could have some fun instead of missing a once in a lifetime opportunity. Fuckers. 
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For a reservist in 34 Brigade who doesn't want to be a kitchen bitch at Vimy or parade in Ottawa all summer, CFSAC is the way to go if you can make the cut.
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Back to the new uniform thing, I hope we get those kickass hats that Americans get too, looks so much sharper than 30 people all with abysmal berets
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No poo poo. Berets aren't bad but the caubeens, glengarry bonnets, and all that other silly poo poo reserve regiments wear instead of berets is incredibly retarded. Either way a hat that isn't some anachronistic bit of pomp would be much more appropriate with combats.
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Lassitude posted:No poo poo. Berets aren't bad but the caubeens, glengarry bonnets, and all that other silly poo poo reserve regiments wear instead of berets is incredibly retarded. Either way a hat that isn't some anachronistic bit of pomp would be much more appropriate with combats. Oh God, those things are loving hideous. Also where the gently caress would you put it when you're not wearing it. I always laugh when I see people wearing them.
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