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Astro7x posted:I always wondered... was Sting injured in 1996 which is why he never wrestled and just did run ins during his crow persona transformation? Or was that intentionally done to build the epic build up to Starrcade against Hogan? What ChampRamp said. Hogan has claimed he was pissed off at Sting for not working out and getting in the best shape of his life during that time which is why he wanted the finish to Starrcade 97 changed. Snicker snicker, I know.
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triplexpac posted:People say Eric had one good idea, but holding off Sting & Hogan was really well done. It showed patience you don't see anymore. Not sure how much of that was him, but since he was in charge at the time I assume he could have made the match happen whenever he wanted.
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Flameingblack posted:I remember legitimately thinking that Hogan/Sting at Starrcade was going to truly be the Match of the Century. It should have been, with all that hype and build, but Hulk Hogan's politics, and the faux-screw job/Bret Hart entirely hosed the match up. What should have happened is Hogan should have cheated something big at the start of the match so he had the advantage beating Sting down, with every one afraid that this would be just another nWo screwjob. Then Sting comes back and starts beating up on Hogan. Two or three of Hogan's cronies run in and get stopped by the likes of Bret Hart and Lex Luger. Sting hits the splash, death drop and then locks on the death lock for the submission win. Hogan tapping out would have been huge. Instead we got Hogan having a huge advantage on Sting for... little reason, some attempted run in's, a fast count done really slowly and the Bret Hart bullshit. It caused completely no confidence in Sting winning that he technically had to win the belt AGAIN and all of the momentum created in 1997 did not follow through into 1998.
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Yeah Meltzer said pretty much the same thing on a podcast a little while ago. He heard about the storyline ahead of time and thought it sounded good, on paper there was no reason to think otherwise. No one could have imagined they would have booked the match in that lovely way.
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triplexpac posted:Yeah Meltzer said pretty much the same thing on a podcast a little while ago. He heard about the storyline ahead of time and thought it sounded good, on paper there was no reason to think otherwise. No one could have imagined they would have booked the match in that lovely way. Yeah the way Meltzer described it really made sense to me. And then I got sad it didn't happen like that.
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triplexpac posted:Yeah Meltzer said pretty much the same thing on a podcast a little while ago. He heard about the storyline ahead of time and thought it sounded good, on paper there was no reason to think otherwise. No one could have imagined they would have booked the match in that lovely way. Probably where I remembered it, or Mullet and I were on the same page. Stuff like Starrcade 97, King of the Ring 95 and the Invasion are the reasons why I'm the fantasy booking gently caress I am today. It's things that went so very wrong that had every excuse not to go wrong.
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Lone Rogue posted:Probably where I remembered it, or Mullet and I were on the same page. To be fair, WWF was in such bad shape in the summer of 1995 that you really couldn't book KOTR '95 to be a good PPV. Could it have been better than it was? Yes, but in no way could it have been "great" or even "pretty good". The entire company was poo poo at that time.
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Captain Kickass posted:To be fair, WWF was in such bad shape in the summer of 1995 that you really couldn't book KOTR '95 to be a good PPV. Could it have been better than it was? Yes, but in no way could it have been "great" or even "pretty good". The entire company was poo poo at that time. I've talked about this in... unbelievable detail. Not so much here but on Facebook and blogs because I once got really obsessed with how people called 1995 an impossible to salvage year for the WWF. We could have had Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels as the KOTR final without changing a single participant in the tournament.
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If memory serves, and correct me if I wrong, Taker couldn't work for poo poo in 95.
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Q_res posted:If memory serves, and correct me if I wrong, Taker couldn't work for poo poo in 95. Still would have been better than Mabel.
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That reminds me of a classic quote from that fat piece of poo poo Scott Kieth quote:Retire now, you crippled, has been, slow-moving, fried-food eating, motorcyle-riding, no-selling, tobacco-chewing, no-money-drawing, talentless piece of selfish poo poo.
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Q_res posted:If memory serves, and correct me if I wrong, Taker couldn't work for poo poo in 95. He could work but still played to his gimmick. If he had Shawn bumping for him it would have made for a much better match. Also, WWF had Owen Hart and British Bulldog wrestle to a draw which lead to them having a re-do in the Qualifyer in Yoko vs. Lex. Meaning an inexplicable excuse to ensure that Bulldog and Owen, who were Top five in WWF workers in 1995 being kept out of the KOTR. Keeping Jeff Jarrett out was another WTF. The only guy who was kept out that made sense was Razor Ramon since he was injured. You could have had Lex, Owen, Bulldog, Shawn, Savio, 123 Kidd, Bob Holly and Jarrett as the KOTR. Tell me that wouldn't have been a drat good KOTR. My favourite fantasy book is having Lex Luger turn heel and join the Million Dollar Corporation and win KOTR to face Diesel at SummerSlam. While Diesel vs. Lex doesn't sound like something exciting, it would have still been better than Diesel vs. Mabel, would have created a number one heel for the WWF in 1995 and maybe Lex would have stayed. If anyone wanted that.
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triplexpac posted:Still would have been better than Mabel. Well, I definitely can't argue with that.
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bobkatt013 posted:That reminds me of a classic quote from that fat piece of poo poo Scott Kieth To be fair, Undertaker really was insufferable for the first long while of his Biker gimmick. At least I remember hating his stuff with a passion back then. Maybe not to Scott Keith levels, though.
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I like how motorcycle-riding is apparently an insult.
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Don't tell that to Tyler Black: http://www.fcwwrestling.info/sethrollins11.html
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Endorph posted:I like how motorcycle-riding is apparently an insult. I like how Scott Keith is insulting someone for eating fried food and moving slowly.
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El Duke posted:I like how Scott Keith is insulting someone for eating fried food and moving slowly.
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Also him saying that eating fried food is an insult. So Scott you never eat fried food? Does he still review anything or does he just try to make money off Beniot and cry about how Beniot is no longer the best?
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Scott Keith only eats yogurt. Cement trucks full of it, but it's not deep fried!
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Lone Rogue posted:Scott Keith only eats yogurt. 
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Moose Bigelow posted:"One deep fried cement truck filled with yogurt coming up." "THIS IS BETTER THAN WASHING MY OWEN HART SHIRT FOR THE FIRST TIME!" 
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I would legit pay to see a competitive eating contest between Scott Keith and Matt Hardy.
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Endorph posted:I like how motorcycle-riding is apparently an insult. it is. I've only hit one motorcycle rider in my driving career, and in my opinion that's 2,999,999 too few.
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So I decided I'm going to watch every Nitro, PPV, and maybe Thunder starting from the debut Nitro episode in September 1995 with these VHS recordings I have. I'm only two months into it, but man did WCW start out rough... The Dungeon of Doom were horrible heels, and WCW didn't know how to promote a PPV at all. Considering I'm just watching Nitro and not Saturday Night, they didn't even tell you a single match that would be at War Games '95. They just kept saying "Hogan's Team will be a man down at War Games!", and the promos said something like "Hogan, Savage, Sting and Luger team up to defeat muscular dystrophy!". I kind of wish I could watch the Raw that was on opposite like with WWE 24/7, because I'd love to see what these shows were going up against at the time.
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Astro7x posted:So I decided I'm going to watch every Nitro, PPV, and maybe Thunder starting from the debut Nitro episode in September 1995 with these VHS recordings I have. Raw was probably Bret vs. Fatu, Ahmed Johnson vs. local jobber and Jacob & Eli Blu vs. 123 Kid & Bob Holly.
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I hate to bring up the games again, but the best part of Revenge was Dr. Frank.
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1-2-3 Kid and Bob Holly was a brilliant prelude to Cody Rhodes/Hardcore Holly!
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Astro7x posted:I'm only two months into it, but man did WCW start out rough... The Dungeon of Doom were horrible heels, and WCW didn't know how to promote a PPV at all. Considering I'm just watching Nitro and not Saturday Night, they didn't even tell you a single match that would be at War Games '95. They just kept saying "Hogan's Team will be a man down at War Games!", and the promos said something like "Hogan, Savage, Sting and Luger team up to defeat muscular dystrophy!". I kind of wish I could watch the Raw that was on opposite like with WWE 24/7, because I'd love to see what these shows were going up against at the time. Man I can't wait till you get the riveting feud between DDP and Hacksaw over DDP's missing ring. I believe they may have had a "Lord of the rings" match, but I may just be making that up.
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Matt Cruea posted:I hate to bring up the games again, but the best part of Revenge was Dr. Frank. He was based off of Jumbo Tsuruta. Of course he was great!
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Lone Rogue posted:He was based off of Jumbo Tsuruta. Of course he was great! Um, no, he was obviously Frankenstein's monster... DUH...
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I know it would never happen today, but I miss all those wacky modded Japanese fake wrestlers. It just padded out the roster so nicely, and gave you guys you could gently caress around with.
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LordPants posted:Man I can't wait till you get the riveting feud between DDP and Hacksaw over DDP's missing ring. I believe they may have had a "Lord of the rings" match, but I may just be making that up. Recapping the Lord of the Rings feud: DDP has ring that no one else ever mentions or covets for any reason DDP interrupts opening of Nitro to demand that security search everyone, it seems he lost his ring Duggan gives a promo in the back saying he found the ring near the toilet DDP confronts Duggan, Duggan gives him ring but also punches him with the Taped Fist Of Doom They fight at PPV. Duggan, as the face, won't tape his fist for the match, despite it being a taped fist match. DDP wins the match, Duggan tapes his fist afterwards and lays out DDP As bad as it sounds, it's only like the 3rd stupidest angle on the PPV, behind Mongo joining the Horsemen, and literally anything at any point involving Kevin Sullivan with the exception of the famous Falls Count Anywhere match.
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Astro7x posted:So I decided I'm going to watch every Nitro, PPV, and maybe Thunder starting from the debut Nitro episode in September 1995 with these VHS recordings I have. Shoot me an email if you really want to watch the Raws opposite these episodes. It's my IM handle at gmail dot com BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Jul 28, 2011 |
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http://youtu.be/oeKnBR8l49w I was 10 when I saw this.
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RBX posted:http://youtu.be/oeKnBR8l49w Did they actually air that on PPV unedited, with no bleeps?
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CaptainRapesAlot posted:Did they actually air that on PPV unedited, with no bleeps?
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RBX posted:http://youtu.be/oeKnBR8l49w What's the general opinion of that promo here?
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