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Illegal Username posted:How much do you weigh walking around? Kinda depends on that. I walk around at 165lb +/- a pound or so for water weight. And I recently got more into hill running circuits for cardio. Found an old water-skiing rope and handle, mixed it with a harness and found some training buddies willing to look stupid in front of a farmer's market.
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I have a new ideal of masculinity for y'all to aspire to.Hagakure: The Book of the Samurai posted:A certain person was brought to shame because he did not take revenge. The way of revenge lies in simply forcing one's way into a place and being cut down. There is no shame in this. By thinking that you must complete the job you will run out of time. By considering things like how many men the enemy has, time piles up; in the end you will give up. No matter if the enemy has thousands of men, there is fulfillment in simply standing them off and being determined to cut them all down, starting from one end. You will finish the greater part of it.
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Where do people get the idea that Crossfit is appropriate training for combat sports? There are virtually no elite competitors who use Crossfit. What Crossfit is really good at is making you better at Crossfit. That is fine, especially if you enjoy doing it, but if you are expecting major performance improvements you are barking up the wrong tree.
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Lt. Shiny-sides posted:Where do people get the idea that Crossfit is appropriate training for combat sports? Well he was responding to me and I've posted many times before that my general conditioning level is quite low, so maybe someone at a low level like me would benefit from it. I'm not arguing with you because I've never done crossfit, I'm just finding the positives in every reply.
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Went to a different krav gym because I moved back to Dallas. They were teaching gun poo poo to the introductory students and most of the advanced students had never sparred.  Can anyone recommend a good striking gym in Dallas?
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:I have a new ideal of masculinity for y'all to aspire to. The Hagakure was written a hundred years after the samurai had stopped engaging in open warfare and is mostly bullshit the guy wrote because he couldn't legally kill himself. 18th century Japanese Emo. If you want some good stuff, read the Book of Five Rings. Here's the opening: quote:I have been many years training in the Way of strategy, called Ni Ten Ichi Ryu, and now I think I will explain it in writing for the first time. It is now during the first ten days of the tenth month in the twentieth year of Kanei (1645). I have climbed mountain Iwato of Higo in Kyushu to pay homage to heaven, pray to Kwannon, and kneel before Buddha. I am a warrior of Harima province, Shinmen Musashi No Kami Fujiwara No Geshin, age sixty years. Nothing self-pitying, nothing about dying well, just a bunch of philosophy on loving bitches up.
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Lt. Shiny-sides posted:There are virtually no elite competitors who use Crossfit. What Crossfit is really good at is making you better at Crossfit. That is fine, especially if you enjoy doing it, but if you are expecting major performance improvements you are barking up the wrong tree. But most elite competitors all have custom tailored programs by the very nature of their eliteness, right? What do good competitors do? That might be more relevant.
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Xguard86 posted:even bodybuilders don't do that many curls in a single workout. Not that it matters in this case but that's not true at all - if you want biceps, do curls. They're not gonna help much with your training for martial arts but I'd throw in a few sets to keep everything balanced and more aesthetically pleasing.
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I tried the first day of the Enter the Kettlebell workbook yesterday; my entire body was aching for a few hours and I still have low-level soreness all over today. I have complete confidence that this routine is going to destroy me and then rebirth me as a fitter, head-hitting shoulder-throwing martial arts machine.
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Aug 2, 2011 02:53
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NovemberMike posted:The Hagakure was written a hundred years after the samurai had stopped engaging in open warfare and is mostly bullshit the guy wrote because he couldn't legally kill himself. 18th century Japanese Emo. If you want some good stuff, read the Book of Five Rings. I just want to be Ghost Dog.
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@ Neirbo Still, Crossfit isn't the answer for that conditioning issues either. The high intensity work seen primarily in Crossfit is not the answer for all conditioning issues. kimbo305 posted:But most elite competitors all have custom tailored programs by the very nature of their eliteness, right? What do good competitors do? That might be more relevant. Very good point. I would respond with two questions. First how did the elite get to that elite stage? And second, what are the majority of the sub-elite currently doing? To the first I would answer by doing appropriate progressive overload and using periodization. To the second, you would probably see some Crossfit used but not in any programs that have reliably and consistently been able to progress athletes from sub-elite to elite. Again, why is it that above all other sports there is this myth that Crossfit will best prepare you for a combat sport? Breaking that down, how are the physical requirements of Thai Boxing the same as Judo? Yet, there is this catch all answer for any who train, give Crossfit a go!
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If you really want the best possible grappling workout, figure out what the local college wrestling team is doing. And copy that.
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Lt. Shiny-sides posted:Again, why is it that above all other sports there is this myth that Crossfit will best prepare you for a combat sport? Is that really a prevailing attitude? I didn't know it was.
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my guess is olympic lifts and stuff like kettlebells/bulgarian bag would make a lot of sense for judo as a sport. i'm still unsure about the actual legitimacy of judo as a sport, so you might have to disregard this advice.
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z0331 posted:Not that it matters in this case but that's not true at all - if you want biceps, do curls. ya but this dude is doing like 3 separate kinds of curl, 3x10 in the same day, while doing basically zero work on some key areas, like the back. I guess I shouldn't say no bodybuilders do that since I am sure there are some high level guys that basically live at the gym who approach this number after their 6th workout of the day.
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http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=1719423&forum=1&page=1&pc=416 Posted this in the UFC thread. Duke Roufus talks striking. Guy's pretty brilliant.
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CaptainScraps posted:Went to a different krav gym because I moved back to Dallas. It's a shame there isn't a "Kapap Academy" near you. I made mention of it trying it out since I couldn't agree with a KMW gym contract. It's a krav-maga type franchise, but the trial class I took there was leagues better than I ever did anything at KMW. The instructors were Israeli and really helpful, the moves they taught seemed a lot more practical than the stuff at KMW.
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What do people think of Krav? I've heard unimpressive things along the lines of it being an incomplete art because it's a basic self-defense system similar to Army Combatives and that it's popular with McDojos. I assume people here have had positive experiences?
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NovemberMike posted:What do people think of Krav? I've heard unimpressive things along the lines of it being an incomplete art because it's a basic self-defense system similar to Army Combatives and that it's popular with McDojos. I assume people here have had positive experiences? It's highly gym-dependent. I just moved to Dallas from Austin. I LOVED my gym in Austin. It was mainly focused on conditioning and sparring-- the level 2 and 3 parts of the program were about sparring and fighting other people who did martial arts. They even made an effort to bring in MMA fighters for open gym to work with. The ground work was weak though and the switch to sparring-oriented training was recent (within the past year) so people who had gone through the new level 2 training were wiping the floor with higher-level students. I've been to two krav gyms in Dallas. At one of them (under krav alliance), they were doing gun defenses in level 1 classes. I really, really don't like gun defenses. At the other one, the students were scared to work with me. One of them even told the instructor they didn't want to hold focus mitts for me. I'm 5'9, 160 and was going about 50%. Then they spent 40 minutes working on self-defenses. I think I may have to go back to muay thai. G-Mawwwwwww fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Aug 2, 2011 |
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Krav might suck in Dallas but apparently we have a badass Muay Thai coach in Plano: http://www.saekson.com/class-schedule.html I am not a striker (bjj) but a lot of the guys who cross train go to Saekson's and say it's great.
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gently caress allergies. I haven't trained on almost two weeks now because the record-breaking summer temperatures here is bringing with it record breaking loving pollen, and my nose is completely clogged 90% of the day-- I could easily remedy this with a cortisone shot, but my terrible doctor is on vacation, and no-one but him can prescribe it for me. Sweet! Atleast I've had gotten in a couple of rolling sessions with my roomie, and I've been working on a couple of things for fun-- the von flue choke, for one, just because it seems like such a funny technique to pull off. There's also a nice armbar from guard, as shown by fedor in the youtube video I'm linking, at around 1:30. I like it alot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiN7lWU3Dgw
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kimbo305 posted:Is that really a prevailing attitude? I didn't know it was. In my personal experience it is, and it is really disheartening to see. Not to mention that like the two first responses in this thread to Neirbo's workout question were to try Crossfit.
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Bohemian Nights posted:There's also a nice armbar from guard, as shown by fedor in the youtube video I'm linking, at around 1:30. I like it alot.  Watching the pro's just stand there and execute a throw from a static position has been bad for me as I seemed to forget that good movement helps greatly in getting the opponent off balance and taking their attention off what my hands are doing. A while ago we talked about seoi nage -> kouchi gari and its working great at the moment as a combination but I can't seem to find the posts about the other seoi nage combos that some of you posted. I noticed if I fake a seionage, the low level guys move their right leg forward and drop their weight low and pull back a bit which is perfect for kouchi gari but now everyones used to it (can't say you didn't warn me). My judo book says seio -> ouchi is a good combo but I feel like it won't work out as I have to lunge forward to get to their back leg. I guess my question is should I step in more when I know I'm going to end up doing the ouchi or just let them get used to stepping off the kouchi and then start doing seoi -> kouchi -> ouchi? And is it worth trying to get a left handed osoto from a double lapell grip to try and surprise some people, or do I really need that left handed grip? gently caress I'm going to have to start paying some of you.
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The gently caress, my new coach told me my favorite move is illegal in competition and I'd like some judo experts to tell me what they think. Basically what I do is Tani Otoshi as a counter to a whole lot of throws. When someone attacks me, I will bear hug them into a tani otoshi. Coach told me that the bear hug part was not legal and that the ref was supposed to call mate the second I would "bear hug" my oponent for my tani otoshi. So I need to keep my kumi kata for that. Is this true? Cause gently caress if it is, this move is just engrained so deep into me now. It's the one thing I get people MUCH better than me with consistently. Nierbo posted:but now everyones used to it (can't say you didn't warn me). My judo book says seio -> ouchi is a good combo but I feel like it won't work out as I have to lunge forward to get to their back leg. I guess my question is should I step in more when I know I'm going to end up doing the ouchi or just let them get used to stepping off the kouchi and then start doing seoi -> kouchi -> ouchi? Haha yeah, people get used to it unfortunately. First, you can stop faking your seio. Just go for it with all your might a few time. If people are used to you faking it they will get caught by your seio. That's for everything in fact, ideally you'd never fake and just switch when you see that it's not working... But it's not doable for me at the moment. Alternatively, you can fake a seio and then instead of going for the kouchi, go for a real drop seio. Basically, mix it up so they don't see a seio coming and think "ok, I need to protect against a kouchi". any kouchi-ouchi combo can work if your good/fast enough. Personally I suck at them though. Seio to kouchi to ouchi can work fine, but you need some really good footwork/speed and also keep pushing them and all. Not easy, but doable. I'm partial to uchi mata after a failed kouchi though. I'm the sort of idiot that will do uchi mata to kouchi to uchi mata to kouchi to uchi mata [...] until it works or I get countered. uhuh KingColliwog fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Aug 3, 2011 |
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It could depend on rules for whatever you're competing in as well, in which case your instructor would know the best. For example, the seoi/kouchi combo recommended earlier is illegal in local junior high tournaments here.
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KingColliwog posted:The gently caress, my new coach told me my favorite move is illegal in competition and I'd like some judo experts to tell me what they think. KingColliwog posted:Personally I suck at them though. Seio to kouchi to ouchi can work fine, but you need some really good footwork/speed and also keep pushing them and all. Not easy, but doable. I'm partial to uchi mata after a failed kouchi though. I'm the sort of idiot that will do uchi mata to kouchi to uchi mata to kouchi to uchi mata [...] until it works or I get countered. uhuh Nierbo fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Aug 3, 2011 |
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Nierbo posted:I'm clearly no expert but could it have something to do with grasping your hands behind their back? Theres a somewhat related discussion about it here. FUCKK!! URA NAGE IS ILLEGAL TOO lol, drat my life just got ruined I'm such a fag for counter done with bear hugs. I mean it's effective, I don't grab the leg, let me do them damnit!Seriously all these stupid rules are pissing me off. I was sort of ok with not grabbing the legs. Sure it removed some of the techniques I really liked and I think it's stupid to remove some techniques but I could sort of understand why it was done and I was happy to live with it. But now I can't use my precious bear hug Tani Otoshi (seriously, it's just 10000 time faster/easier/more effective done in a bear hug "kumi kata" than with the "regular grip") and Ura Nage as a whole seem to not be too kosher... That's the kind of poo poo that will end up making me switch to BJJ as my main sport. I'm seriously mad at this crap, I don't care that it looks like wrestling, I don't care that it's not "proper judo (whatever that means)"... It just makes people get away with stuff they shouldn't. This is how I feel right now : 
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tarepanda posted:For example, the seoi/kouchi combo recommended earlier is illegal in local junior high tournaments here.
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Nierbo posted:Out of curiosity, what rule does that break? I'm not entirely sure, but one of the sensei pointed out that the hand by the opponent's thighs would be called as a hansoku.
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tarepanda posted:I'm not entirely sure, but one of the sensei pointed out that the hand by the opponent's thighs would be called as a hansoku. I did it by grabbing the thigh before, but now I just lift my hand up over the belt and use my elbow and arm to "squeeze" the leg sort of. Not as effective as what I did prior to the rule change, but I don't see how it could be considered hansoku if you never put your hand lower than the belt
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tarepanda posted:I'm not entirely sure, but one of the sensei pointed out that the hand by the opponent's thighs would be called as a hansoku.
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It was so sweet before the rule change. You just sort of wrapped your arm from their hip to behind their thigh, grabbed the pants and just threw yourself into them while lifting/holding their leg with the power of your arm and legs. Wasn't all that pretty but it was solid
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KingColliwog posted:The gently caress, my new coach told me my favorite move is illegal in competition and I'd like some judo experts to tell me what they think. Here's how it has been explained to me in referee meetings for how to call it... Your coach is right, a bear hug from the front is illegal. It's illegal as soon as you cross your arms behind the back, whether you grasp your hands or not. You don't get penalized (for the first time), it is just a "matte". If it happens a second time from either Judoka in a match, it is a shido. However, hugs from the side or back are perfectly legit and will score. You shouldn't be doing a hug for Tani O-toshi anyways. But if you are doing a hug and leg block from the front then you aren't doing a tani-o-toshi, you are doing an o-soto-gake with a hug. If you really are somehow doing Tani-Otoshi with a bearhug, then you are doing the hug from the side, which means it is totally legal and you have nothing to worry about.
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KingColliwog posted:FUCKK!! URA NAGE IS ILLEGAL TOO lol, drat my life just got ruined Ura Nage is performed from the side or back, and is 100% legal. Nierbo posted:Ah ok. I've had to change my technique and grab as high as possible to avoid their pants. Still works reasonably well but I can see it working better before the new rules. You can grab pants as part of a counter or a combo. The only caveat is that it has to be a legit counter or combo, not a halfassed first move like most people do. For example, Uchimate-Sukashi is still legit, even with the rule change. Thoguh fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Aug 3, 2011 |
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Thoguh posted:You can grab pants as part of a counter or a combo. The only caveat is that it has to be a legit counter or combo, not a halfassed first move like most people do. For example, Uchimate-Sukashi is still legit, even with the rule change. Ohhhh, I see. thanks for clearing that up. I feel better now 
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Thoguh posted:If you really are somehow doing Tani-Otoshi with a bearhug, then you are doing the hug from the side, which means it is totally legal and you have nothing to worry about. great. thank you. I am indeed doing it from the side Thoguh posted:You can grab pants as part of a counter or a combo. The only caveat is that it has to be a legit counter or combo, not a halfassed first move like most people do. For example, Uchimate-Sukashi is still legit, even with the rule change. I would never do it in a comp though, your disqualified automatically if the judge makes a bad call
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For anyone in the Southern California area there's a new gym in Seal Beach, Gracie Fighter OC. It's kind of an odd setup, in the side of the Affliction warehouse there, but the mats are nice and huge, there's lots of weight and cardio stuff, a ring, and an octagon. Everything is pretty spankin' new and it's not crowded yet. Jason Manly and Mike Guymon are co-running it, Jason has been there doing BJJ and wrestling both times I've gone. He's super chill and a fuckin time travelling wizard in rolling. More importantly he's been really good about correcting bad technique when he sees it, takes the time and is a nice guy all around. I've hit my bodies two day in a row limit and I'm pretty busted up but I think I'll be making it my regular gym, I really dig the facility.
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Does anyone know of a decent boxing gym in West/Southwest London? Everywhere seems to be in the east and/or north, and with my current employment situation that's not really practical. Likewise for the same reasons BJJ and places like London Shootfighters are probably out of the equation, bah!
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Spuckuk posted:Does anyone know of a decent boxing gym in West/Southwest London? I don't know if its what you're looking for, but the Budokwai is in west London, and is a pretty famous Judo club, and I believe Roger Gracie does some work there as well. http://www.budokwai.co.uk/
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Illegal Username posted:If i feel like i should up my cardio training i do this: What the gently caress dude, you are not running up those  That was the best post ever. when I feel like upping it, I run up an airplane!!! Also my cardio has really fallen to some extremely bad limits during the past month's, should I run or just attempt boxing 10 rounds a day to up my sparring cardio? Goddamn cigarettes...
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