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Blaise
Sep 10, 2003

Jared592 posted:

If anyone wants a 97 Subaru Outback for $400 and you're in the Philly area let me know. It actually starts and runs fine, and hasn't been overheated. New timing belt! :q:

How do I reach you? I'm local! :q:

(PM sent)

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logistik
Sep 11, 2001

I'll give you a TKO from Tokyo!
Hey subaru friends. I am one of the lucky that had a rod bearing go. Mine I was driving normally, have always kept up on oil changes etc, but this one time I went on a road trip and just didnt check the oil. Turns out it was down about a liter and that combined with hot temps and 5w30 spun me a bearing.


I know that its basically new engine time or bust so my question really is two fold.

1. Anyone know of a decent site I can get a used engine or am I best to search locally (wreckers, etc).

2. How many hours is the labour so I can start finding a reputable shop for the swap. (There's literally no way I can do it myself or with a friend)



Thanks and oh btw I wish I was dead. This is basically the first time I didn't check my oil before driving more than 100kms.

logistik
Sep 11, 2001

I'll give you a TKO from Tokyo!
I have a 2004 WRX fwiw.

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010
Youre best to look locally. Do an STi Swap.

EDIT: It is worth your time to check out all the parting out posts of the various subaru classifieds online. There probably one near you if youre in a major city.

Amandyke
Nov 27, 2004

A wha?

Lord Gaga posted:

Youre best to look locally. Do an STi Swap.

EDIT: It is worth your time to check out all the parting out posts of the various subaru classifieds online. There probably one near you if youre in a major city.

Doubling this. Especially if you can find a wrecked STI. Why do just an engine swap, when you can do everything else at the same time! yEEEAHHAAA!!

Blaise
Sep 10, 2003
Really? Guy needs a longblock and you suggest he swap everything???

logistik posted:

(There's literally no way I can do it myself or with a friend)

I think having to swap diffs/axles/all kinds of wiring/etc will make this a bit more expensive on the labor side... not to mention the price of the swap ($5K+)

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Blaise posted:

Really? Guy needs a longblock and you suggest he swap everything

Automotive Practicality

blargle
Apr 3, 2007
Sounds like he only needs a new shortblock actually, I'd get a new one put in, make sure it runs, sell it and get a used 09.

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010
You can buy an H brace subframe connector and both strut tower bars for $125 on eBay. Worth it?

EDIT:
I still cant believe both strut tower bars can be had for less than $60 shipped. I thought about making one because I am a machinist and figured I had all the stuff and could do it cheap, but for less than $30 jeeze its not even worth my time.

Lord Gaga fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Aug 4, 2011

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
From an autocross perspective we haven't found a huge difference being made on the front strut bar. The rear strut bar (in a wagon, or with a ski passthrough in a sedan) does make a difference but then you might as well just buy an oswald x-brace.

The H-shaped subframe brace will punt you out of most competitive classes so nobody I know who's serious about competition has tried one.

RaoulDuke12
Nov 9, 2004

The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, but to those who see it coming and jump aside.
'03 WRX is throwing a CEL code that seems to indicate cylinder 1 is misfiring.

I've checked it for spark and compression, and it idles really smooth and powers fine up through redline, injector is clean...this has to be an incorrect code, right?

Basically it comes on and off intermittently, and the performance of the car does not seem to change whether it's on or off.

Secondly, I'm starting to hear the faintest of little squeaks that seems to coincide with the turbo spooling up...car has 143k on it, are these the beginning death throes of the turbo, or do I just have a leak somewhere?

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010

Seat Safety Switch posted:

From an autocross perspective we haven't found a huge difference being made on the front strut bar. The rear strut bar (in a wagon, or with a ski passthrough in a sedan) does make a difference but then you might as well just buy an oswald x-brace.

The H-shaped subframe brace will punt you out of most competitive classes so nobody I know who's serious about competition has tried one.

This is in an 02 sedan and this is a daily driver that I want to start auto crossing just for fun sometimes.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
^^ I wouldn't bother with front or rear in that case. Maybe look at refreshing your struts, get stickier tires and get an alignment.

Hey, how can you tell I have a mental illness?



Because I loving love Subarus.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari

RaoulDuke12 posted:

'03 WRX is throwing a CEL code that seems to indicate cylinder 1 is misfiring.

I've checked it for spark and compression, and it idles really smooth and powers fine up through redline, injector is clean...this has to be an incorrect code, right?

Basically it comes on and off intermittently, and the performance of the car does not seem to change whether it's on or off.

Secondly, I'm starting to hear the faintest of little squeaks that seems to coincide with the turbo spooling up...car has 143k on it, are these the beginning death throes of the turbo, or do I just have a leak somewhere?

When were the spark plug wires last changed?

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010
I already have a bunch of suspension/steering mods going on next week or the week after though my struts are stock. ALK, Front and rear sways, whiteline ball joints/tie rods, etc. The braces were so cheap I figured hey if there's any benefit it'd be worth it.

What do people normally set their alignment settings to for daily driving and auto crossing? What is factory for the 02 WRX?

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
My alignment specifications on my WRX were "zero toe, all the caster and camber you can find." It's probably not the best, but the WRX only has a very limited amount of adjustment.

RaoulDuke12
Nov 9, 2004

The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, but to those who see it coming and jump aside.

daslog posted:

When were the spark plug wires last changed?

Never. They don't look too beat up though and they're all sparking without arcing.

I suppose that could be it though. You mean the whole coil pack I assume, right?

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire

Seat Safety Switch posted:

My alignment specifications on my WRX were "zero toe, all the caster and camber you can find." It's probably not the best, but the WRX only has a very limited amount of adjustment.

yeah that. I have an ALK, the offset whiteline tops, and then went and took a grinder to slot my struts. -2.5 degrees of camber, hopefully close to +5° caster but it hasn't been measured. If only I had some high caster sti control arms.

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010
This site says -1.5 degrees camber is factory so Ill assume that or more is what I want or more.

http://www.oakos.com/wrx/specs.htm

EDIT: Mis read, it says 1.5 degrees is the camber for the rear. 0.42 degrees is for the front.

Lord Gaga fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Aug 5, 2011

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
in the front it's between 0 and 1. 1.5 is where things start to get good. 2.5 might be a little excessive for the street but it depends on the suspension parts, tires, and driving style. if all you do is commute to work don't bother but if you go on fun drives, auto-x, track days etc, the right alignment will completely change how the car handles.

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010
If by fun drives you mean, 25mph exit ramp suggestion means 75 is just fine then yes. Id like to start autocrossing, we'll see how that pans out. There are local events fairly regularly. How much faster will that much 1 degree extra camber wear out tires? I am currently getting less than 30k out of my sumitomos.

Lord Gaga fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Aug 5, 2011

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
I could be wrong, but I believe that toe affects tire wear much more than camber will. I haven't noticed an accelerated tire wear but for autocross you should be mindful of filling the tires up as much as possible (minus 5-10% to account for heating). Also make sure to rotate your tires front to back on a front-heavy, powerful car like a modern Subaru; I rotate every second event because otherwise my front tires will be demolished prematurely.

I started autocrossing last summer; it's extremely intimidating the first time, especially if you run into some of the more serious competitors. The important thing is to stick with it and get ride-alongs from someone experienced who can be a sober second thought on what you're missing or doing wrong out of habit.

Doing a proper alignment made my car a lot more fun on the street. You'll definitely notice it there.

Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Aug 5, 2011

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Yeah, toe is the killer of tires. I've had my hankook v12s for close to a year and over 10k miles with this alignment. There's a slight bit more of wear generated on the inside front but it's not very much.

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010
So just to be clear, after I get my balljoints/tie rods on and go to get it aligned, ask for factory in the back and no less than -1.5* in the front and 0 toe all around?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I've never been able to get more than -1.3 out of my '02 with stock suspension.

Baby_Hippo
Jun 29, 2007

A lot of people enjoy being dead.
My boyfriend recently became the proud owner of a 1978 Subaru BRAT - we've fantasized about owning one ever since he bought his Impreza several years ago and it's pretty much our first "project car." It was purchased from the original owner and magically made it home the two hour drive on the freeway. We replaced the battery and starter and it's currently at our mechanic's home to get a once-over and some basic things fixed (horn, door latch, etc). I can't wait to get it back and tool around town in it and con friends into letting us put their kids in the Oh poo poo seats. :haw:

I couldn't go through X amount of pages in this thread but if anyone has any suggestions for places to find miscellaneous parts I'd appreciate it. And if you see me posting with spelling issues it's probably my boyfriend lurking with my account. :)

EvilBlackRailgun
Jan 28, 2007


^^^ That's awesome, sounds like a fun project car, no idea where to go for parts though sorry.

Speaking of alignment, would you guys recommend top hats on a '11 STI? I've heard bad things about camber bolts failing under intense conditions. I'm also a little worried that only putting them on the front suspension will cause my rear to sag a good deal. Any advice? Debating just getting an aggressive alignment with stock components or waiting for the appropriate parts to be put on. (fairly aggressive back road diving with an occasional track day)

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

VolumeBroadcast posted:


Speaking of alignment, would you guys recommend top hats on a '11 STI? I've heard bad things about camber bolts failing under intense conditions. I'm also a little worried that only putting them on the front suspension will cause my rear to sag a good deal. Any advice? Debating just getting an aggressive alignment with stock components or waiting for the appropriate parts to be put on. (fairly aggressive back road diving with an occasional track day)

I seriously hate aftermarket camber bolts and would go top hats - that being said do castor mods first, you get more bang for buck that way.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari

RaoulDuke12 posted:

Never. They don't look too beat up though and they're all sparking without arcing.

I suppose that could be it though. You mean the whole coil pack I assume, right?

I tend to do these type of these part by part if I'm tight on funds.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher
How the gently caress can a strut snap internally??!?!I"ve never seen a suspension fail like what fell off the 06 today.

Seriously contemplating an MY12 and retire the 06 to track duties - after a small refresh.

Tongsy
Aug 22, 2007
So I am looking at rebuilt wrx/sti with 100,000 km on it

Body is from a 2004 2.5 TS wagon. Car has a rebuilt title, and I am in Ontario. My area has a number of subaru specialists, and the swap was performed by one of them so I believe that the swap was done right

Here is a listing of what was put into the car during the rebuild, from the guy who rebuilt it:
Both front air bags (Momo wheel), air bag control unit and front seat belts and front sensors were replaced
Dash was changed out to WRX black with all door cards
Front and rear WRX seats
Gauge pod
Complete ( all the way to rear of car ) wireing harness was swaped out to WRX
GC8 aluminium lower control arms
v7 inverted struts and springs all around
4 pot front, 2 pot rear brakes
R 180 rear diff with big knuckles
GC8 STi axles all around0
JDM v7 sti power train 2.0 L
JDM factory down pipe with cat
STi reat muffler
WRX center pipe
Engine ECU re-flashed to remove 180 KPH speed limiter
18" Spec B wheels and tires
Extra waist spoiler on hatch
ST1 side skirts
STi fog covers and side bolsters
STi hood scoop
STi carbon fiber tie bar
Adjustable blow off valve (this will be coming out if i do buy i

I looked at the vehicle, it drives very well and is in excellent shape. Is going to need 8 tires and brake pads within the next year, IMO.

For anyone who is knowledgeable, what should a vehicle like this sell for? How much hurt would I be in for if I were to buy this? I have some mechanical knowledge and want to learn more but would likely take it to local specialists for something complicated.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Tongsy posted:

So I am looking at rebuilt wrx/sti with 100,000 km on it

Body is from a 2004 2.5 TS wagon. Car has a rebuilt title, and I am in Ontario. My area has a number of subaru specialists, and the swap was performed by one of them so I believe that the swap was done right

Here is a listing of what was put into the car during the rebuild, from the guy who rebuilt it:
Both front air bags (Momo wheel), air bag control unit and front seat belts and front sensors were replaced
Dash was changed out to WRX black with all door cards
Front and rear WRX seats
Gauge pod
Complete ( all the way to rear of car ) wireing harness was swaped out to WRX
GC8 aluminium lower control arms
v7 inverted struts and springs all around
4 pot front, 2 pot rear brakes
R 180 rear diff with big knuckles
GC8 STi axles all around0
JDM v7 sti power train 2.0 L
JDM factory down pipe with cat
STi reat muffler
WRX center pipe
Engine ECU re-flashed to remove 180 KPH speed limiter
18" Spec B wheels and tires
Extra waist spoiler on hatch
ST1 side skirts
STi fog covers and side bolsters
STi hood scoop
STi carbon fiber tie bar
Adjustable blow off valve (this will be coming out if i do buy i

I looked at the vehicle, it drives very well and is in excellent shape. Is going to need 8 tires and brake pads within the next year, IMO.

For anyone who is knowledgeable, what should a vehicle like this sell for? How much hurt would I be in for if I were to buy this? I have some mechanical knowledge and want to learn more but would likely take it to local specialists for something complicated.


This is essentially what I am building (minus the drivetrain swap and external bits) for my 2002 Impreza wagon. :3:

What's the price on it (if you don't mind me asking)? I know our prices for Subarus are inflated up here.

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010

Cat Terrist posted:

How the gently caress can a strut snap internally??!?!I"ve never seen a suspension fail like what fell off the 06 today.

Seriously contemplating an MY12 and retire the 06 to track duties - after a small refresh.

Pics?

Tongsy
Aug 22, 2007

Sockington posted:

This is essentially what I am building (minus the drivetrain swap and external bits) for my 2002 Impreza wagon. :3:

What's the price on it (if you don't mind me asking)? I know our prices for Subarus are inflated up here.

The price is $13,500 CAD

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Lord Gaga posted:

If by fun drives you mean, 25mph exit ramp suggestion means 75 is just fine then yes. Id like to start autocrossing, we'll see how that pans out. There are local events fairly regularly. How much faster will that much 1 degree extra camber wear out tires? I am currently getting less than 30k out of my sumitomos.
If you autocross a lot on your street tires, 2 degrees of negative camber might lead to better tire wear.
I know with 1.5 degrees (the max I can get) back when I AXed on my daily driver tires, they always wore out on the outside edge.
Now with the same alignment on non-autocrossed streets, I get a touch more wear on the inside edge, but it isn't significant, my HTR Z-IIIs lasted 30k mi.

Lord Gaga
May 9, 2010
My outsides shredded pretty fast though I don't know what the alignment on my car is.

Wrar
Sep 9, 2002


Soiled Meat
Is there any reason you Canadians don't buy your cars in the US? Given how weak the USD is right now, it makes even more than usual sense.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Wrar posted:

Is there any reason you Canadians don't buy your cars in the US? Given how weak the USD is right now, it makes even more than usual sense.
Subaru Canada won't cover our warranty, we have to send our invoices to Subaru USA to be compensated.

Additionally, we have to pay duty for a non-NAFTA car as well as sales tax on the car. Idiotically, Subaru Canada actually double-imports their cars (first to SIA to be finalized, then to Canada to be sold) so they pay NAFTA duty twice on every car you buy from a dealership.

The import process is also a bit of a pain (you have to give the border 48h notice before you can begin the export/import process). Some cars also have to have things fitted (Federally mandated daytime running lights/immobilizer), and you have to take your car to Canadian Tire for the out-of-country inspection, which will probably mean that your car becomes horrendously damaged in the process by one of their subliterate air-tool aficionados.

Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Aug 5, 2011

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Wrar posted:

Is there any reason you Canadians don't buy your cars in the US? Given how weak the USD is right now, it makes even more than usual sense.
EDIT: /\/\/\/\ Yup, that. Thanks SSS ;)

Customs makes it a bit of a pain. This was HUGE a couple years ago - buying pickups for about $10K less down south and bringing them up here.

There's a few more forms to fill out now (unless the car is older than 15years).

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Simkin
May 18, 2007

"He says he's going to be number one!"

Baby_Hippo posted:

I couldn't go through X amount of pages in this thread but if anyone has any suggestions for places to find miscellaneous parts I'd appreciate it. And if you see me posting with spelling issues it's probably my boyfriend lurking with my account. :)

Given how uncommon Brats are, it would make sense to check for parts interchangeability with a similar year GL/DL. Subaru doesn't (didn't?) like to use model specific parts.

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