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Rizzo Crackers posted:Made this for a Goon SWTOR Guild, Love it. Luke's dejected sigh after is great.
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Jul 31, 2011 17:32
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Rizzo Crackers posted:Made this for a Goon SWTOR Guild, Even the first 15 seconds of this video make me realize that ESB is the best Star Wars movie. 
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Jul 31, 2011 17:57
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Even the first 15 seconds of this video make me realize that ESB is the best Star Wars movie. Will admit it felt a little weird butchering probably my favourite scene in the entire saga. but it was a laugh anyway.
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Jul 31, 2011 17:59
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arioch posted:The only real problem with the Wraith Squadron trilogy is that they had to kind of half-rear end the ending of Solo Command a bit. They should've gone ahead and blew up the real Iron Fist because I don't think Courtship specified if Zsinj still had Iron Fist as a Super.. Nope. It's explicitly the real deal. Allston was already written into a corner, and did altogether too well dealing with pre-ordained stuff. I mean, actually finding a good use for the Nightshade? Really?
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Jul 31, 2011 22:06
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I greatly prefer Stackpole's X-Wing books to Allston's. Wraith Squadron just felt too much like a wacky underdog sports team story. You get a group of misfits and outcasts together and what do you know, they save the day in humorous ways.Nckdictator posted:In semi Star Wars related news Lucasfilm is putting out a new movie. This exact movie has already been done http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114745/
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Aug 1, 2011 04:37
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Yeah, I don't want to be "that guy" but honestly I have never found Allston's humor all that funny and I don't really get why the entire fanbase appointed him the king of Star Wars comedy. Honestly, I thought that Tag and Bink and the Villie-centered comic story by Ostrander were both a lot funnier.
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Aug 1, 2011 04:41
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I thought he was really good in the first two books, but everything in Starfighters of Adumar felt forced, like the publisher specifically requested that all the characters constantly do the wackiest things possible and it got old really fast.
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Aug 1, 2011 05:03
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Sean Stewart wrote the funniest Star Wars novel 
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Aug 1, 2011 05:55
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WhyteRyce posted:Sean Stewart wrote the funniest Star Wars novel Was about to post this. As much as I dislike some stuff about the Clone Wars EU that Yoda book is suprisingly good. Nckdictator fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Aug 1, 2011 |
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Aug 1, 2011 06:00
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Admiral Goodenough posted:Whatever, Starfighters is the best Fixed that for ya
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Slantedfloors posted:Allston's books are actually considered better than the Stackpole ones. Man just knows how to write humour. I wouldn't say they're better. They're extremely good in a different way than Stackpole's books are good. Both are extremely good, and worth reading, and represent some of the high points in the Star Wars EU. None of the X-Wing books are allowed in the Book Barn thread. I will agree, though, that Starfighters is one of my favorite Star Wars books.
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Out of boredom I've been watching Star wars OT with the commentary on and they've been kinda interesting. I wrote them off before because they make a mistake of having everyone record their commentary separate, then putting it together after. So there's no banter, it's just really dry. But the tidbits, even from George, are interesting. Just wrapped up Empire and Kirshner's parts were cool even if he definitely was a tad senile at that point by the way he talked. One thing kinda struck me at the end he said though. quote:After the film was done shooting, George called me and told me we would have the opening be in London, so he said 'You're going to be in London next week' and I said 'Great! So when do we go?' and he said 'We're not going, you're going. This was your movie, and if we both go, I'd be sharing the credit for your work' It's so  it really makes me wonder what just happened to George to make him so egotistical and cynical.
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Aug 1, 2011 15:54
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RagnarokAngel posted:It's so  x however many Lightsaber toys were sold.
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RagnarokAngel posted:It's so I don't know, it seems perfectly in keeping with his current personality. He seems obsessed with control and ownership. Seems logical he would see Empire Strikes Back as Kershner's movie, since Lucas had the least amount of input in that one. I think a lot of the "raging rear end in a top hat" parts of him are either manufactured or taken out of context. The guy's just a weird, spergy weirdo and always has been, I think.
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Phylodox posted:I don't know, it seems perfectly in keeping with his current personality. He seems obsessed with control and ownership. Seems logical he would see Empire Strikes Back as Kershner's movie, since Lucas had the least amount of input in that one. I think a lot of the "raging rear end in a top hat" parts of him are either manufactured or taken out of context. I don't think so. I know it's not cool to have faith in George anymore but Kirshner seemed to really be touched by his generosity both at that time and after. I don't think he'd give RotJ to Marquand at all if he really felt that way about Empire at the time (I realize NOW it's his least favorite film, but I think something changed over time).
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I'm not saying it wasn't a genuinely nice thing to do, I'm just saying that I think his eccentricity has two sides. On the one, more infamous side, he micro-manages and obsesses and hates anything messy, spontaneous, or human about the film-making process. When he's allowed to run a production the way he wants, he tends to take complete credit for the whole process. On the other hand, in the case of Empire Strikes Back, he's perfectly willing to admit that it wasn't his movie, and has no interest in taking credit for it. I think Return of the Jedi, while being directed by Marquand, is still very much a George Lucas movie, while Empire isn't.
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RagnarokAngel posted:I don't think so. I know it's not cool to have faith in George anymore but Kirshner seemed to really be touched by his generosity both at that time and after. I don't think he'd give RotJ to Marquand at all if he really felt that way about Empire at the time (I realize NOW it's his least favorite film, but I think something changed over time). I agree with what you're saying about Kershner being genuinely touched, but Marquand was given RotJ for some very specific reasons. Lucas had little control over Empire, but had a ton of money wrapped up in it. Like, all of his money, and money he had to take out a loan for. If it failed, he was finished. Gary Kurtz was supposed to be his man on set for Empire, ensuring everything went how Lucas wanted, while Lucas controlled the business of Skywalker ranch. But Kurtz always sided with Kershner, and the film went over budget and over deadline all the time. Lucas felt betrayed by Kurtz, and in a way you can't blame him. Yeah, Empire turned out to be the best Star Wars movie, but Lucas wanted these films to make a ton of money to finance his vision of an independent film studio (obviously his goal changed over time). Gary Kurtz was supposed to back him up and make sure the film was financially viable, and he kept screwing Lucas over. It made an amazing film, but from Lucas' point of view that wasn't the job Kurtz was supposed to have. When RotJ came around, Lucas just wanted to be done with the movies. His plan for 9 movies evaporated, and he condensed films 6-9 into RotJ. He hired Marquand because he could control and trust him to do what Lucas wanted. Hell, a good portion of RotJ is actually directed by Lucas, but he didn't want to actually be responsible for directing all of it. Just controlling all of it. Marquand wasn't hired because of the good experience with Kershner, he hired him because of the bad experience with Kershner and Kurtz. Remember, Empire made the least money out of all the Star Wars movies. Lucas has a love of film, but it's not really on display in his Star Wars movies. He did these to make money (well, at least the ones after the original Star Wars), to finance Skywalker Ranch.
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What exactly was Darth Nihilus. From KOTOR 2, I understand that he was some sort of physical manifestation of the dark side of the Force but what does that actually mean. Was he "dead" or even a living thing. If so, how was he able to be killed by the Exile when it was implied he has some insane powers such as being able to kill everything on Katarr by the Force alone. He was a very interesting concept but some aspects of him (it?) were quite baffling, more so since my main source of SW EU knowledge are through games. His entry on Wookipedia got very technical about him being a "wound of the Force" or something so I'm hoping someone can provide me with more details on this guy.
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ChineseTea posted:What exactly was Darth Nihilus. From KOTOR 2, I understand that he was some sort of physical manifestation of the dark side of the Force but what does that actually mean. Was he "dead" or even a living thing. If so, how was he able to be killed by the Exile when it was implied he has some insane powers such as being able to kill everything on Katarr by the Force alone. He's basically the Exile's dark counterpart. He is a regular dude who got so hosed up by the destruction of a planet that he basically began to suck the force like a force vampire until he became nothing but a horrible monster leech. The reason the Exile could kill him was because the Exile was hosed up in a somewhat similar way and so Darth Nihilus couldn't Force Vampire him, and as an end result, was just a regular guy who got lightsabered in the face.
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It's been a while since I've played KOTOR II, but I always thought that Nihilus had never been a "real" person, that he was a sort of Force-entity created from the destruction of Malachor V and its damage to the Force. I remember being disappointed when one of the Wizards of the Coast RPGs a few years ago provided a background for Nihilus being an actual person before becoming Nihilus at Malachor.
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I remember being hugely disappointed with Nihilus since he had so much more potential as a villain. Another casualty of the KoTOR 2 cuts.
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Nihilus makes a lot more sense when you stop thinking of him as a character and instead think of him as a super-weapon. He's not Vader, he's the Death Star. He's just a big scary means of destruction that the heroes have to stop, not an actual character.
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Hi all, I just finished catching up on this delightful thread and am eager to joing the nerdfest. I pretty much read all of NJO which ranged from painful to delightful. I was especially pissed of at the Voxyn. Where killing the queen magicly meant they couldn't clone any more despite the genetic material being available in a number of Voxyn in later books. And Wookiepedia basicly said that Anakin Solo died because people might get confused between him and A. Skywalker...I don't see how anybody whos buying a Star Wars novel wouldn't be able to make that distinction. So the killed him of with some contrived threat to all jedi (Voxyn) in which killing one particular one means that couldnt clone more...and the one they are CLONING from is bigger/meaner/smarter/forcesensitiver then all the other ones. Literal Boss Voxyn. I was planning on reading Dark Nest and on but you guys have got me  to read about...bug orgies.
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Bombadilillo posted:Hi all, I just finished catching up on this delightful thread and am eager to joing the nerdfest. I pretty much read all of NJO which ranged from painful to delightful. I was especially pissed of at the Voxyn. Where killing the queen magicly meant they couldn't clone any more despite the genetic material being available in a number of Voxyn in later books. I quit reading Star Wars novels after slogging through the first Dark Nest book, it was just terrible. Not sure what you've read or haven't read but here's what I would recomend... Darth Maul:Shadow Hunter- Set right before the Phanton Menace, dark but good. A Jedi Padawn and a infromation dealer are being stalked through the Coruscant underworld by Darth Maul. Reminds me of the Termenator movies. Ties in to the Medstar annd Coruscant Nights books. Also features one of my favorite passages in a Star Wars book. quote:Coruscant. Shatterpoint - Set in the early Clone Wars, basicly the Vietnam War in space. Really gritty but not grittyness sake. One of my favorites. Ties into Luke Sywalker and the Shadows of Mindor Medstar I and II - Imagine MASH in space. Pretty good and ties in to Shadow Hunter and the Coruscant Nights books. Yoda - Dark Rendezvous - Set near the end of the Clone Wars, features Yoda traveling to Vjun for a chance to negotiate a end to the war with Dooku. Really provides alot of character for Dooku and makes him seem sympathetic. Also features some hilarious scenes and great new characters. The Han Solo Adventures- Set between RotS and ANH. Really great short novels full of Han Solo being Han Solo. Don't read if you want grim-dark style plots. Great pulpy fun. Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina- set during A New Hope, a bunch of short stories about the aliens hanging out in the cantina. Some stories are pretty good, like the one about the Stormtrooper, some are morbidly funny like the one about the goat-man who tries to date rape a woman but finds out the hard way theat her race's mating ritual involve the female gutting the male. Tales from the Empire- A collection of short stories set from slightly before ANH to just before Dark Empire. Most of the stories - i thought- were pretty forgetable but there were a few that stood out. Do No Harm about a pacifist doctor in the Rebel Alliance being forced to kill a Imperial officer and Side Trip in which Hal and Corran Horn, some smugglers, and Admiral Thrawn team up to take down underworld boss Zekka Thyne, worth it for seeing Thrawn's plan work out. Tales from the New Republic- Again set all over place. I can't really recall any of the stories off the top of my head except No Disintegrations, Please which has Boba Fett storm a Imperial base in search of his target, I hate the term 'bad-rear end' but that story really is bad-rear end. Shadows of the Empire - Set between ESB and RoTJ , a guilty pleasure of mine. Tales from Jabba's Palace- Set during Return of the Jedi, focus's on minor characters in Jabba's palace. Fun to read to see all the stories interact with each other. I don't recall any bad ones from here except the one about Boba Fett trapped in the Sarlacc and getting taunted by some Jedi ghost thing The X-Wing books. Meh, maybe it was just because I had just come off reading the Dark Nest book but I coulddn't get through Wedge's Gamble It wasn't bad, I just had overloaded myself with Star Wars books. ◦The Thrawn Trilogy- Set a few years after RoTJ , introduces Grand Admiral Thrawn, some consider it the "sequal trilogy". Required reading if your a Star Wars fan. Nckdictator fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Aug 5, 2011 |
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Bombadilillo posted:Hi all, I just finished catching up on this delightful thread and am eager to joing the nerdfest. I pretty much read all of NJO which ranged from painful to delightful. I was especially pissed of at the Voxyn. Where killing the queen magicly meant they couldn't clone any more despite the genetic material being available in a number of Voxyn in later books. Pretend the EU stopped right after the NJO. You're welcome.
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quote:Side Trip in which Hal and Corran Horn, some smugglers, and Admiral Thrawn team up to take down underworld boss Zekka Thyne, worth it for seeing Thrawn's plan work out. Which is actually one of the handful of times Thrawn gets down and dirty. Always struck me as odd until I read Outbound Flight where he pointed out to Cardas that as a warrior-leader he, well, should be ready to lead his warriors. Shimrra Jamaane posted:Pretend the EU stopped right after the NJO. You're welcome. To be fair, Dark Nest is definitely the latest low point. That's not to say that Legacy and Fate are good series, just that they're not quite as bad.
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Torael_7 posted:To be fair, Dark Nest is definitely the latest low point. That's not to say that Legacy and Fate are good series, just that they're not quite as bad. But Dark Nest doesn't hurt the EU the way LOTF did. That series has made a number of irreversible events that has left the established character pool smaller, and was demonstrably gimmicky and poorly thought-out, with Denning admitting on TFN forums that the entire series was planned on a "what if Jacen......" without any kind of critical thinking as to whether it'd be a believable character progression or if it'd make for a good, 9-part story (it wasn't, and it didn't). Dark Nest you can literally ignore. LOTF you have to read and it hurt all the way through. Ok that's not strictly true: it started out promising and then progressively the bad feeling built in the pit of my stomach. At least FOTJ hasn't disappointed me - ,mainly because I entered it with rock-bottom expectations. Yep, still bitter.
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DougieFFC posted:Dark Nest you can literally ignore. LOTF you have to read and it hurt all the way through. Ok that's not strictly true: it started out promising and then progressively the bad feeling built in the pit of my stomach. At least FOTJ hasn't disappointed me - ,mainly because I entered it with rock-bottom expectations. Good point. 
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Nckdictator posted:Medstar I and II - Imagine MASH in space. Pretty good and ties in to Shadow Hunter and the Coruscant Nights books. I haven't read any Star Wars books newer than the one where chewie died but I just bought Medstar I due to your recommendation, I hope this isn't a trick.
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Markoff Chaney posted:I haven't read any Star Wars books newer than the one where chewie died but I just bought Medstar I due to your recommendation, I hope this isn't a trick. Granted it's been a few years since I read it but I recall it was pretty good. Let me know what you think of it! Nckdictator fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Aug 5, 2011 |
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Apparently the new X-Wing book will be called X-Wing: Mercy Kill, will be set around the end of Fate of The Jedi (44+ ABY) and will star Wraith Squadron. Release is Summer 2012. Also, I recently went on vacation and shotgunned FOTJ: Vortex and FOTJ: Conviction. One sucked and one didn't. Look up the authors and guess which is which. I rode the new Star Tours at Disney World enough times to get all the possible locations except for Coruscant. It was awesome.
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65 year old geriatric Face asks 62 year old Kell to "Mercy Kill" him because he's suffering bouts of dementia and dying of nano-inoperable cancer. The other joke I came up with was "Mercy Kill" the entire goddamn franchise. gently caress.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:65 in Star Wars years is like 45 in real world years. It's not that bad. No, gently caress this whole concept. We're gonna arbitrarily move the "current setting" forward by years THEN PRETEND TIME PASSING DOESN'T MATTER. Faerunner posted:65 isn't that old in real world years. For a bunch of commandos, yeah it is.
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arioch posted:For a bunch of commandos, yeah it is. Not if Wraith Squadron is now manned exclusively by ninja-astromechs.
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Just started Deception. It has been okay for the most part, but I guess it is harder to connect with characters you haven't had a great introduction to. To really "get" Malgus is easier if you've watched the three TOR trailers which ironically were released in reverse-order as far as timeframe goes.
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