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If im running one monitor thats 1920x1080 and one thats 1920x1200 and I want to clone the displays, is it possible to still get one of them to have 1920x1200 and the other one just to have it cut off? Right now its forcing my 1920x1200 monitor into x1080 mode.
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Aug 3, 2011 16:45
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Phiberoptik posted:If im running one monitor thats 1920x1080 and one thats 1920x1200 and I want to clone the displays, is it possible to still get one of them to have 1920x1200 and the other one just to have it cut off? Right now its forcing my 1920x1200 monitor into x1080 mode. If the 1900x1200 monitor has a 1:1 display mode as opposed to the fill screen or stretch + maintain aspect ratio modes, you should be able to do it I'm pretty sure.
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Aug 3, 2011 19:38
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I just sold my U2711 and went back to a TN panel. I feel like the biggest jackass and want to buy it back immediately.
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Aug 3, 2011 20:48
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You are the Padishash Emperor of jackasses.
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Aug 3, 2011 20:55
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sleepness posted:I just sold my U2711 and went back to a TN panel. I feel like the biggest jackass and want to buy it back immediately. I can't see why you'd do this other than utter poverty..
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Aug 3, 2011 21:20
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sleepness posted:I just sold my U2711 and went back to a TN panel. I feel like the biggest jackass and want to buy it back immediately. 
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Aug 3, 2011 21:29
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It was a horrible choice. I figured I wouldn't notice a huge difference going back to a TN and I would rather have the 200 dollars (I am not in extreme poverty). Bad move. To make it worse, my fiancee will not let me buy another one unless I sell the one I replaced it with, which I bet will be hard to do. sleepness fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Aug 3, 2011 |
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Aug 3, 2011 21:34
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sleepness posted:and I would rather have the 200 dollars (I am not in extreme poverty). Bad move. You downgraded from IPS to TN to save 200? Did you buy a 60 inch TN or something, what the poo poo.
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Aug 3, 2011 22:38
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Eej posted:Also a lot of people go with different sized monitors, just be aware that nVidia cards run hotter doing different resolutions at the same time (so I am told anyhow). Is this only newer cards? My creaky passive cooled 9600GT is running the same temps driving two different panels as it did with one.
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Aug 3, 2011 23:46
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Shmoogy posted:You downgraded from IPS to TN to save 200? Did you buy a 60 inch TN or something, what the poo poo. I included the price of shipping and the cost of the new monitor. It really was a dumb move. This thing looks INCREDIBLY washed out. Once you go IPS, you can never go back. Biding my time until I can sneak in a purchase...
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Aug 4, 2011 01:14
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Remember that fiances will believe anything if plied with an appropriate amount of chocolate and wine first.
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Aug 4, 2011 01:34
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So, before I ask all these annoying questions, realize I know nothing about monitors, even after reading through the OP. I've been planning to upgrade to a 24" recently, and have been looking over Newegg for good cheapish options. I'm not in extreme poverty or anything, I'd just rather not blow more then $200 on a monitor, especially since I plan to probably buy a new monitor come next June. Right now, I have two options in the <200 range, namely the LG E2441V-BN and the ASUS VH236H, of which the ASUS looks both a hell of a lot better, and has much better reviews. There is also the ASUS VW246H if thats leaps and bounds ahead of the other two. I'm also looking at the two refurbished ASUS models here and here but I'm not sure of the quality of those. I know with video cards refurbished is generally fine, but in that case there is very little that could be wrong with them if they come back as refurbished, and there is a huge culture of buying the drat things, and either not knowing how to install them or realizing they can't OC later on, and returning, which leads to lots of good refurbed video cards, monitors don't seem to have the same thing going on. Apparently, from reading the OP, 23" models also avoid the black bar issue, which is my main reason for buying this size, if so, I'm also semi considering the ASUS VH232 I don't really care about size or anything here, my main focus is on a good monitor I can use for gaming ( but I don't need a monitor built for gaming, just one that can be used for it without strain. ), doesn't get black bars on ports, and will last me a year or so. From what I gathered in the OP, that means 23/24"? If I'm wrong, correct away and give me some better options here, I'll be happy to know I'm totally wrong.
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Aug 4, 2011 12:35
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Whether you see black bars or not is a function of what aspect ratio the screen is and what aspect ratio the content is not anything to do with screen size. All of the models you posted are 16:9 (1920x1080 pixels) so no difference between them in that regard.
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Aug 4, 2011 13:11
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Rookersh posted:I don't really care about size or anything here, my main focus is on a good monitor I can use for gaming ( but I don't need a monitor built for gaming, just one that can be used for it without strain. ), doesn't get black bars on ports, and will last me a year or so. From what I gathered in the OP, that means 23/24"? If I'm wrong, correct away and give me some better options here, I'll be happy to know I'm totally wrong. Hey no problem, questions are cool, and we'll actually answer all of them instead of letting them get lost like megathreads in other forums! - no black bars in ports: as dissss stated, this is a function of aspect ratio. The safest way to make sure you don't get black bars on even the shittiest console port is to buy a screen with a 16:9 aspect ration; this means you should look for a resolution of 1920x1080. Most decent console ports will also support 16:10 but often the crappy ones won't (and the cutscenes may only be 16:9 anyways). - last a year or so:  not a video card man, it should last you years! VGA is just now beginning to disappear.- for gaming: are you a super-leet gamer dude who needs little to no input lag for competitive play, or do you just like shooting things occasionally? I think almost any panel type will work for you, though non-TN types will deliver you superior viewing angles and colors.
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Aug 4, 2011 14:52
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The U2410 came, revision A05 (manufacture date April 2011), no dead pixels, out of a fresh Dell box with the factory calibration sheet. I can't see any catch, even though I threw caution to the wind and went on ebay (well, it was apparently a Dell partner). Very happy!
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Aug 4, 2011 17:42
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Rookersh posted:Right now, I have two options in the <200 range, namely the LG E2441V-BN and the ASUS VH236H, of which the ASUS looks both a hell of a lot better, and has much better reviews. There is also the ASUS VW246H if thats leaps and bounds ahead of the other two. I was in the same situation and narrowed it down to the VH236H and the VW246H. After researching it for a few hours, it seems the general opinion is that they are both great monitors for the pricerange and you can't really go wrong with either. I ended up choosing the VW246H because of its larger size and it was the more popular of the two on Newegg. Honestly I like the styling of the VH236H better, and the lower price is always a plus. I can't comment on my personal opinion of the monitor because I actually just ordered it this morning.
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Aug 4, 2011 19:26
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With my recent upgrade to an i5 2500K, 6780 1MB ATI vid card, and 4 Gig RAM set up, will moving from a 22" 1680X1050 LCD res to a 1920X1080 LED res provide a significantly noticeable upgrade for gaming? I know something like this could be subjective, but just wondering if anyone else here has done that, and what they experienced. I've read the increase to 1920X1080 will cause a drop in FPS. EDIT - VVV Sorry, I meant I have a 6870 card VVV Kragger99 fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Aug 5, 2011 |
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Aug 4, 2011 21:51
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Quanta posted:Dell takes a backward step with their update for the U2410, and is also planning replacements for their 23" and 21.5" screens: Any new info now that the 24 is out? I'm thinking of buying a U2311H but if the new version is coming soon I can hold on with my (slowly) dying CRT.
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Aug 4, 2011 23:13
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Kragger99 posted:With my recent upgrade to an i5 2500K, 6780 1MB ATI vid card, and 4 Gig RAM set up, will moving from a 22" 1680X1050 LCD res to a 1920X1080 LED res provide a significantly noticeable upgrade for gaming? well, it's not really a drop, it's more like more stress for your graphics card. instead of needing a 6780, you might need a 6870 or a 6970 for things to run smooth. However, this matters most in terms of "What" you are playing, first and foremost. More to render = more work for the card. However, things tend to look a shitload better at higher res's. It also means that AA and AF are more taxing too. So if you do 8xAA at 1680x1050, don't expect that at 1920 or above, basically.
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Aug 4, 2011 23:47
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Kragger99 posted:With my recent upgrade to an i5 2500K, 6780 1MB ATI vid card, and 4 Gig RAM set up, will moving from a 22" 1680X1050 LCD res to a 1920X1080 LED res provide a significantly noticeable upgrade for gaming?
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Aug 5, 2011 02:36
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Well, I set it up, and did a compare with my existing monitor. My old one looked way better at it's default res (1680x1050). It's running off a DVI connection, whereas the new monitor only runs on RGB and HDMI. Any text was quite blurry with the new one. When viewing any games, pics or video on the new one at the 1920X1080 res, I didn't see too much of an increase in quality, other than a larger picture size (only wider - height is the same). The picture was much brighter (LED backlit), but I preferred the old monitors' view. Note, I did test both the RGB, and HDMI connections. I did a benchmark of Just Cause 2 on the new monitor, and at both the 1680 and 1920 resolutions, the avg FPS was 59. Guess my vid card can handle the higher res easily. I'm not really sure what I was expecting, but I think i might just stick with the old one.
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Aug 5, 2011 03:10
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movax posted:- for gaming: are you a super-leet gamer dude who needs little to no input lag for competitive play, or do you just like shooting things occasionally? I think almost any panel type will work for you, though non-TN types will deliver you superior viewing angles and colors. Just a normal guy who wants to load up his games on something nicer looking then a 1152x864 CRT eMachine.  How harsh is recert with monitors? I'm really looking at this right now, even over the ASUS VW246H, because its $50 cheaper, but want to make sure monitor recert isn't some sort of terrible mixed bag, and I'll more then likely end up with a ton of dead pixels. Rookersh fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Aug 5, 2011 |
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Aug 5, 2011 03:15
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Kragger99 posted:Well, I set it up, and did a compare with my existing monitor.
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Aug 5, 2011 03:48
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DrDork posted:It sounds like you may be running the new monitor at an incorrect resolution. With HDMI, text should be fairly crisp, no matter the monitor. Which exact monitors do you have, anyhow? Old - Samsung Syncmaster 226BW. 2ms response 3000:1 contrast native/max res 1680x1050 new - Samsung Syncmaster S24A350H. 2ms response 500,000:1 contrast native/max res 1920x1080 The old one had DVI The new one only has D-sub or HDMI connections. I tried both, but each one needed an adapter because: My vid card has 2 DVI outputs. To hook up the HDMI, I used a DVI to HDMI adapter.
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Aug 5, 2011 03:58
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Rookersh posted:...but want to make sure monitor recert isn't some sort of terrible mixed bag, and I'll more then likely end up with a ton of dead pixels. So yeah, you might get a great deal, or you may get one that someone returned precisely because it had a dead pixel or two. Mixed bag, there. There are companies and lines with zero-dead pixel policies, and I'd imagine that the recerts would also fall under that protection. Some BenQ monitors and Dell's entire Ultrasharp line are like that, off the top of my head.
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Aug 5, 2011 04:10
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How common are dead pixels these days anyway? There are five LCDs and a few of laptops of varying ages in this room and all of them are still perfect. All budget models too.
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Aug 5, 2011 04:19
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Rookersh posted:Right now, I have two options in the <200 range, namely the LG E2441V-BN and the ASUS VH236H, of which the ASUS looks both a hell of a lot better, and has much better reviews. There is also the ASUS VW246H if thats leaps and bounds ahead of the other two. I just got 3 of these not too long ago at work, so far I am loving them. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236102
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Aug 5, 2011 04:43
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DrDork posted:It sounds like you may be running the new monitor at an incorrect resolution. With HDMI, text should be fairly crisp, no matter the monitor. He actually explicitly said he tested it at both, and only complained about the fuzzy text at the incorrect resolution. And yeah, it's not too surprising that running a 1920x1080 LCD monitor at 1680x1050 looked like poo poo.
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Aug 5, 2011 15:19
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Actually at the default res of 1920x1080, the text was also blurry. It was only some letters that were blurry. For example: the X and p in "example" might look blurry. Does the DVI to HDMI adapter cause some quality loss? I'm wondering if the old monitor with a DVI connection looks better because it's pure digital signal. I didn't change any settings in the CCC, so maybe I'm not giving it a fair shake.
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Aug 5, 2011 15:35
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Kragger99 posted:Actually at the default res of 1920x1080, the text was also blurry. It was only some letters that were blurry. For example: the X and p in "example" might look blurry. This sounds almost similar to a ticket that I had a while back. User complained about monitor being too sharp. I go talk to her, nothing has changed, everything looks fine. Five minutes into trouble shooting with her, she mentions that she went to the eye doctor last night and got new contacts.  I have never had a problem with HDMI to DVI cables, its all digital, there isn't any fancy conversion going on.
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Aug 5, 2011 15:51
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Kragger99 posted:Actually at the default res of 1920x1080, the text was also blurry. It was only some letters that were blurry. For example: the X and p in "example" might look blurry. No, DVI <-> HDMI causes no quality loss. They are the same digital signal. Did you run the ClearType tuner?
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Aug 5, 2011 16:00
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Factory Factory posted:Did you run the ClearType tuner? ^^ This, sounds like a font rendering issue. If you're on Win7, just type 'ClearType' into the Start Menu and the first result should be 'Adjust ClearType text' which is what you want.
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Aug 5, 2011 16:20
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Thanks for all the advice guys - I'll give it another try. I did notice some horrible screen tearing when watching video on the new monitor (not at it's native resolution). Is there normally an option to adjust the V Sync for video? I didn't see one in ATI CCC.
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Aug 5, 2011 17:31
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Just ordered a U2412M through work. We have a discount with Dell, and I talked to a rep that got the price down to $325 before tax. Gets here next week.  I'm excited to see how the dual-screen setup looks with my older acer 16:10 22". I've never had a multi-monitor setup before!
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Aug 6, 2011 00:16
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TheQuad posted:I've never had a multi-monitor setup before!
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Aug 6, 2011 01:23
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DrDork posted:You'll never, ever want to go back. I did. Juggling the focus between monitors using a single PC proved to be too much of a hassle to work smoothly for me. I do, however, often use a desktop and a laptop at the same time. Puts the focus-switching on me rather than software.
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Aug 6, 2011 01:38
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Not sure how you find moving between different keyboards/mice to be less disruptive to your work-flow than moving your mouse to click in a different window, but whatever works for you!
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DrDork posted:Not sure how you find moving between different keyboards/mice to be less disruptive to your work-flow than moving your mouse to click in a different window, but whatever works for you! Mostly has to do with mouse/keyboard focus. I do very few things that aren't either typing-oriented or otherwise full-screen (which risk going un-full-screen if I shift the mouse focus). I just like a big, honking 16:10 monitor.
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I've been using a 42" LG TV (IPS panel) as my monitor for a while now. Did a basic setup, and after getting used to the larger pixels and a little extra input lag, it's a lot nicer than the FP241W it replaced. And since most of what I do on here now is gaming and watching movies/TV, the loss of 120 pixels in height was pretty much meaningless. I guess I like being subhuman.
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Dillweed posted:I guess I like being subhuman. I wonder what 577:192 makes me? 
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