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MisterBibs posted:I fear this will be seen as a "lawl im drunk kk" post, but despite my current intoxication, I feel I am required to ask: You watched the hallowed Point Break while intoxicated? Shame on you.
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FishBulb posted:The thing about Total Recall is that the whole 'is it real or a simulation' thing could be pretty interesting but since they cast Arnie nobody really cares because OF COURSE Arnie is a super hero secret agent that can kill a million dudes and save Mars. Of loving course he can, we expect no less from him. The Terminator movies have a similar problem. Of course Arnold cuts an imposing figure but his body type sure as poo poo doesn't make sense for a post-apocalyptic infiltrator unit. The war's been going on for 20 odd years and we're in California but sure, lets believe the bodybuilder with an Austrian accent is on the level! The movie would have made a lot more sense with the original choice of Lance Henriksen.
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In Smokin' Aces, is Andy Garcia speaking in some kind of southern colonel accent or what?
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muscles like this? posted:The Terminator movies have a similar problem. Of course Arnold cuts an imposing figure but his body type sure as poo poo doesn't make sense for a post-apocalyptic infiltrator unit. The war's been going on for 20 odd years and we're in California but sure, lets believe the bodybuilder with an Austrian accent is on the level! Also the terminator is probably the least subtle assassin imaginable and "gently caress YOU rear end in a top hat" is about as infiltrate-y as he gets.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Also the terminator is probably the least subtle assassin imaginable and "gently caress YOU rear end in a top hat" is about as infiltrate-y as he gets. I still love the story how OJ Simpson was up for the role but they thought he would not be believable as a killer.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Uncle Ben was real, but his appearances are distorted by memory or wholly invented. Was Uncle Ben's existence mentioned by one of the other characters or something? It's been a while since I've read it.
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I am watching Mimic right now, and a my friends and I recall another movie that was kinda similar to it that came out at roughly the same time. I am pretty sure that the cover is also green like Mimic's.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Also the terminator is probably the least subtle assassin imaginable and "gently caress YOU rear end in a top hat" is about as infiltrate-y as he gets. To be fair, they show how they 'infiltrate' in Reese's dream\flashback in the first movie. It only gets as far as finding out where the human hideout is and getting its foot in the front door before it whips out the giant laser gun and starts loving poo poo up. It's not really trying to lay low and infiltrate, just catch everyone with their pants down.
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Fat Lou posted:I am watching Mimic right now, and a my friends and I recall another movie that was kinda similar to it that came out at roughly the same time. I am pretty sure that the cover is also green like Mimic's. Are you thinking of The Relic?
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Fat Lou posted:I am watching Mimic right now, and a my friends and I recall another movie that was kinda similar to it that came out at roughly the same time. I am pretty sure that the cover is also green like Mimic's.
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Zogo posted:Are you thinking of The Relic? The Relic's poster was not green but the cover of the novel it was based on is.
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muscles like this? posted:The Terminator movies have a similar problem. Of course Arnold cuts an imposing figure but his body type sure as poo poo doesn't make sense for a post-apocalyptic infiltrator unit. The war's been going on for 20 odd years and we're in California but sure, lets believe the bodybuilder with an Austrian accent is on the level! Well if we accept T:Salv as canon, and looking at the resistance fighters they have in that movie, then fancy accents and built dudes seem pretty Common (heh) in the ranks.
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In the future, mankind lives off of nothing but protein powder and the only recreation is bench pressing.
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MisterBibs posted:I fear this will be seen as a "lawl im drunk kk" post, but despite my current intoxication, I feel I am required to ask: It's not so much that the plot is confusing, as it is that it has a very surreal intensity to it- I think Kathryn Bigelow was looking to capture some of the mystic hippie-ness of surfer culture and really get into the mindset that Swayze's character has, so it feels weirder than your average cop thriller.
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Anyone here know anything about British noir? An indie theater near me is doing a series of them this fall, but I know nothing about the genre - or even that it was a "thing" - or really that much about American noir either. What are some good titles, and what sorts of things should I expect thematically/know going into these films? AFAIK they haven't released the schedule yet, but I'm going to try to go to a few because these film series (they've done American noir, musicals, and usually do a 6-8 week series of Janus films once a year) are either free or like $2, so I figured it'd be worth it to see some quality films.
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Does Night and the City count? Dassin was technically an American, but it was shot on location in London. If they show it, see it. Can't go wrong with sleazy Richard Widmark.
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The Third Man was the first one I thought of.
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dreadnought posted:Anyone here know anything about British noir? An indie theater near me is doing a series of them this fall, but I know nothing about the genre - or even that it was a "thing" - or really that much about American noir either. What are some good titles, and what sorts of things should I expect thematically/know going into these films? AFAIK they haven't released the schedule yet, but I'm going to try to go to a few because these film series (they've done American noir, musicals, and usually do a 6-8 week series of Janus films once a year) are either free or like $2, so I figured it'd be worth it to see some quality films. Watch Third Man. It is british noir and an amazing movie.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The Third Man was the first one I thought of. And if it were the only British film noir ever made, Britain would still be doing fine in the film noir department.
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bobkatt013 posted:Watch Third Man. It is british noir and an amazing movie. I had no idea it was British, but yes, I've seen it. If they end up showing it in the series, I'll probably see it again. It wasn't the best movie I've ever seen, but I was also a little distraught at the time I watched it. Plus I saw it on Netflix - seeing a restored print on the big screen is a totally different beast. Any other titles I should look out for? The series will probably be six weeks or so, so there will be several others. It would help if the schedule was up, sure, but I was just curious if FFD or any other noir junkies around here had recommendations.
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Check out Contraband (not really a noir but fun), They Made Me a Fugitive (loving fantastic) and Odd Man Out (another Carol Reed film).
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The Fallen Idol, too. Man, Carol Reed rules.
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Is there any real difference between the Criterion and the current not-out-of-print version of The Third Man on blu-ray? At least, enough for me to consider finding the Criterion?
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The Criterion version has more extras than the current StudioCanal release, and the StudioCanal Blu-Ray has a noticeable amount of DNR applied. DVDBeaver. It's one of the better StudioCanal releases (which isn't saying a lot, frankly).
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This probably gets asked a lot but which DVD version of the original Night of the Living Dead should I get, assuming I don't care about extras and only want the best quality transfer?
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Human Tornada posted:This probably gets asked a lot but which DVD version of the original Night of the Living Dead should I get, assuming I don't care about extras and only want the best quality transfer? I got the Elite Entertainment version, and it's pretty great. It's "THX Digitally Mastered" for what that's worth. Also, it has commentary tracks from Romero and the cast, so it's pretty "official", I guess, considering the murky rights issues surrounding this film. I couldn't find that one on Amazon, but the "Millenium Edition" seems to be the same thing, going by the extras, so it's probably the same transfer.  Just don't get the 30th Anniversary edition with the extra scenes. They weren't done by Romero, and they're terrible.
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Human Tornada posted:This probably gets asked a lot but which DVD version of the original Night of the Living Dead should I get, assuming I don't care about extras and only want the best quality transfer? If you have a small amount of cash and a Blu-Ray player, I think there was a region free version released in the UK
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Fat Lou posted:I am watching Mimic right now, and a my friends and I recall another movie that was kinda similar to it that came out at roughly the same time. I am pretty sure that the cover is also green like Mimic's.  This? I don't think this involves bug-like things, but I always lump these two movies together even though I've never seen this one.
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I've a question about a certain character type that usually appears in Italian American gangster films. He's generally the less physically intimidating underling to a mafia boss with a recognizable high pitched voice. Joe Pesci from Goodfellas would be the obvious example I can think of. And the character is definitely recycled as mafia henchman Louie in The Simpsons. Want I want to know is if there are other examples of this character from older gangster films or from other Scorsese works?
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I know tons of films go through the test audience routine, and that changes can be and usually are made to films (sometimes against the wishes of writer/directors) if audience reaction at test screenings is negative. Are there any known cases of criticism from test audiences actually improving a movie?
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Origami Dali posted:I know tons of films go through the test audience routine, and that changes can be and usually are made to films (sometimes against the wishes of writer/directors) if audience reaction at test screenings is negative. Are there any known cases of criticism from test audiences actually improving a movie? The test screening for Videodrome was overall a disaster and led to it getting a weird release that didn't find an audience, but it did tell Cronenberg that he'd edited the movie down too much and he actually had to put some stuff back in to make it more comprehensible. The preview cut was 75 minutes long. Arguably, Little Shop of Horrors. On paper it's the old case of a downbeat ending being scrapped in favor of a happy one, but even some critics felt it was a change for the better. The stage version has a certain emotional distance which makes the 'everyone dies' ending not too tragic, but the movie ends up being more intimate and so we like the characters more. My understanding is that actually, most of the time, a test screening can be helpful and tell you some things are working and some things aren't. The problem is when a studio uses a bad score as a pretext to step in and change everything because they wanted to in the first place.
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Origami Dali posted:I know tons of films go through the test audience routine, and that changes can be and usually are made to films (sometimes against the wishes of writer/directors) if audience reaction at test screenings is negative. Are there any known cases of criticism from test audiences actually improving a movie? Supposedly, the screenplay for Mrs. Doubtfire ended with the parents staying divorced, but the studio wanted a happy ending where Robin Williams and Sally Field get back together. The writer objected to this change, as it wasn't 'real' and might give kids of divorced parents false hope that their parents could reconcile. So as it goes in Hollywood, the writer was paid and the script given to another writer who was willing to make the changes the studio wanted. The ending was filmed. The movie was screened for test audiences. They hated it. So the studio brought the original writer back, replaced the original ending, and movie was a hit. Not sure how much of this is true, but that's the story.
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Origami Dali posted:I know tons of films go through the test audience routine, and that changes can be and usually are made to films (sometimes against the wishes of writer/directors) if audience reaction at test screenings is negative. Are there any known cases of criticism from test audiences actually improving a movie? Roger Ebert, in his `Movie Answer Man' column said, when asked about test screenings, that Billy Wilder `killed the first reel of Sunset Boulevard after a screening'. I don't know more about it than that, but I'd love the hear the rest of that story.
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SubG posted:Roger Ebert, in his `Movie Answer Man' column said, when asked about test screenings, that Billy Wilder `killed the first reel of Sunset Boulevard after a screening'. I don't know more about it than that, but I'd love the hear the rest of that story. Come to think of it, I think the same thing happened with Escape From New York.
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If I recall correctly, it was something along the lines of a pan across a series covered cadavers in a morgue, each relating the circumstances of their demise in a fashion similar to William Holden's opening narration. It may have been an interesting scene, but I could see how it would better serve the story to get right into it. Plus you would miss the cold open of Holden face down in the pool, and it would be pretty tough in general to improve on anything in Sunset Blvd.
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I think my question got buried in the Total Recall discussion, so I'll ask it again, but only this once more. What happened with the release of Ride with the Devil?
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Left Hand posted:If I recall correctly, it was something along the lines of a pan across a series covered cadavers in a morgue, each relating the circumstances of their demise in a fashion similar to William Holden's opening narration. It may have been an interesting scene, but I could see how it would better serve the story to get right into it. Plus you would miss the cold open of Holden face down in the pool, and it would be pretty tough in general to improve on anything in Sunset Blvd. Yea, I remember hearing about that. It opened in a morgue with a lot of corpses talking amongst themselves about how they died and how they had a lot of loose ends that needed to be resolved. One corpse laments over the fact that he had a bet on a White Sox baseball game and didn't know the outcome. The dialogue sounded hilarious but it was almost too funny for the film.
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Left Hand posted:If I recall correctly, it was something along the lines of a pan across a series covered cadavers in a morgue, each relating the circumstances of their demise in a fashion similar to William Holden's opening narration. It may have been an interesting scene, but I could see how it would better serve the story to get right into it. Plus you would miss the cold open of Holden face down in the pool, and it would be pretty tough in general to improve on anything in Sunset Blvd.
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Origami Dali posted:I know tons of films go through the test audience routine, and that changes can be and usually are made to films (sometimes against the wishes of writer/directors) if audience reaction at test screenings is negative. Are there any known cases of criticism from test audiences actually improving a movie? The bollywood dance sequence in the train station in the credits of Slumdog Millionaire was the actual end of the movie originally, but the test audiences didn't like it, so they pushed it into the credits and made it more of a joke almost. Minor change, but a positive one it seemed to me.
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