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other people
Jun 27, 2004
Associate Christ

Doctor Zero posted:

You can't put Lion on a Core Duo machine.

e: officially, at least. Are you trying that delete the PlatformSupport.plist method?

Oh. I feel officially retarded.

I guess I will see what the unofficial ways result in, but otherwise I am giving up.

edit. A Macbook 1.1 has Core Duo, which is 32-bit, right? And now that I am paying attention, Lion is 64-bit only. So this is going no where fast.

other people fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Aug 8, 2011

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Magic Mango
Aug 31, 2006

Only fools are enslaved by time and space.

Petey posted:

No.

Apple's website says it does:

Apple.com posted:


Since your mail, documents, Camera Roll, account information, settings, and other app data don’t use as much space, you’ll find that 5GB goes a long way.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Magic Mango posted:

Apple's website says it does:
In the keynote Steve said mail, purchased content, and the photo stream don't count against the 5GB.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

woops

Magic Mango
Aug 31, 2006

Only fools are enslaved by time and space.

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

In the keynote Steve said mail, purchased content, and the photo stream don't count against the 5GB.

But why would you want more storage if that were true?

e: Do they really expect people's synced documents and settings and stuff to take up to 50GB?

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


I want to find all files of a specific type (ex., all playlists of m3u type) in Snow Leopard. I've tried searching the appropriate directory for *.m3u but Finder finds nothing.

Am I erring anything or missing something?

Xandu
Feb 19, 2006


It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am.
I don't think finder recognizes the *, try just searching for .m3u.

abelwingnut
Dec 23, 2002


Xandu posted:

I don't think finder recognizes the *, try just searching for .m3u.

D'oh.

That worked--thanks.

Ein
Feb 27, 2002
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So, I'm asking for a friend uuuhm, if I want to go from PC to a new MacBook Pro using Office 2011 connecting to Exchange with Outlook wouldn't be a problem right?

How about connecting to network shares or connecting to a Windows domain, how would that be handled?

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Magic Mango posted:

But why would you want more storage if that were true?

e: Do they really expect people's synced documents and settings and stuff to take up to 50GB?
Photo stream is just the last 100 (I believe, maybe 1000?) photos. Any photo libraries beyond that count against the cap. Also, any applications can use iCloud to store data because Apple's opened up the API. I could see 5GB disappearing pretty quickly depending on how much crap you want to store in the cloud.

edit: I swear to God, they'd better not kill Back to my Mac... :argh:

Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Aug 8, 2011

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Ein posted:

So, I'm asking for a friend uuuhm, if I want to go from PC to a new MacBook Pro using Office 2011 connecting to Exchange with Outlook wouldn't be a problem right?

How about connecting to network shares or connecting to a Windows domain, how would that be handled?

The Mac/Exchange integration is excellent, and with a couple minor issues, I actually prefer the Mac version of Outlook for most things.

Network shares are connected by doing a Finder> Go> Connect to server: smb://server/share

You should be good.

unruly
May 12, 2002

YES!!!

Ein posted:

So, I'm asking for a friend uuuhm, if I want to go from PC to a new MacBook Pro using Office 2011 connecting to Exchange with Outlook wouldn't be a problem right?

How about connecting to network shares or connecting to a Windows domain, how would that be handled?
Your experience will largely be a non-issue. Other than adapting to some conventions, you should be okay. I haven't yet tried joining a Lion machine to a domain for authentication, I have (and do) connect to domain-authenticated resources all the time.

E: f;b

Magic Mango
Aug 31, 2006

Only fools are enslaved by time and space.

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Photo stream is just the last 100 (I believe, maybe 1000?) photos. Any photo libraries beyond that count against the cap. Also, any applications can use iCloud to store data because Apple's opened up the API. I could see 5GB disappearing pretty quickly depending on how much crap you want to store in the cloud.

The second screenshot here seems to show mail counting against the cap, but you may be right, might be a beta limitation.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

I realize this is somewhat :spergin: but does anyone have a good SSD icon before I make one? The fact that Lion still ships with the default "Macintosh HD" and ancient icon when probably half the machines Apple sells use SSDs is kind of silly.

The Illusive Man
Mar 27, 2008

~savior of yoomanity~

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

I realize this is somewhat :spergin: but does anyone have a good SSD icon before I make one? The fact that Lion still ships with the default "Macintosh HD" and ancient icon when probably half the machines Apple sells use SSDs is kind of silly.

Doing a GIS for 'ssd icon' turned up some pretty decent ones.

I'm kind of partial to this one.

e: typo

VVVV Yep! This might push me to finally turn it off.

The Illusive Man fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Aug 8, 2011

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Space Racist posted:

Doing a GIS for 'sad icon' turned up some pretty decent ones.

Lion spellcheck wins again? :haw:

e: aw :(

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Space Racist posted:

Doing a GIS for 'ssd icon' turned up some pretty decent ones.

I'm kind of partial to this one.
It 404s when you try to get the icns. :(

edit: He changed the URL path.

Ein
Feb 27, 2002
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Doctor Zero posted:

The Mac/Exchange integration is excellent, and with a couple minor issues, I actually prefer the Mac version of Outlook for most things.

Network shares are connected by doing a Finder> Go> Connect to server: smb://server/share

You should be good.

I tried doing the smb://server/share stuff today but it didn't work, this was on a loaner though, I was using Cisco VPN and connecting without fault to the network. Trying to go through the "connect to server" dialog while on VPN wouldn't work although it identified the server correctly but couldn't connect to it.

VPN connected perfectly, no issue there, I just want the network shares from a Mac using VPN to connect to Exchange and be able to use the network shares. Is there anything to do in Windows Server to make this work?

Is there something I'm missing, like how the hell network-drives work on Mac?

Doctor Zero
Sep 21, 2002

Would you like a jelly baby?
It's been in my pocket through 4 regenerations,
but it's still good.

Ein posted:

I tried doing the smb://server/share stuff today but it didn't work, this was on a loaner though, I was using Cisco VPN and connecting without fault to the network. Trying to go through the "connect to server" dialog while on VPN wouldn't work although it identified the server correctly but couldn't connect to it.

VPN connected perfectly, no issue there, I just want the network shares from a Mac using VPN to connect to Exchange and be able to use the network shares. Is there anything to do in Windows Server to make this work?

Is there something I'm missing, like how the hell network-drives work on Mac?

Ah it's probably a DNS thing. I had that problem as well over a Cisco VPN. I created a DNS entry for my server, but you should also be able to substitute the IP address for the server name. Something like SMB://127.0.0.1/sharename

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

Diabolik900 posted:

Yeah, the real difference is that with the old style you were moving the scroll thumb, but with the new way you're moving the page. I really don't think the old way is any more natural, but it's been ingrained in our muscle memory over years and years. You just have to learn to think about it differently.
I've been using it with my trackpad in 10.6 for a few days now (switched with BetterTouchTool), I'm kind of used to it now after initially having to think about what the scroll was controlling.

...now the arrow keys (or space/shift-space) kind of gently caress me up if I use them to scroll :doh:

Kaluza-Klein posted:

Oh. I feel officially retarded.

I guess I will see what the unofficial ways result in, but otherwise I am giving up.

edit. A Macbook 1.1 has Core Duo, which is 32-bit, right? And now that I am paying attention, Lion is 64-bit only. So this is going no where fast.
Yep! The original DP would work, but they stripped out most (if not all) the 32-bit binaries by the later ones and final. Even if you managed to get it to boot, the built in apps wouldn't work (Finder, Mail, Safari, etc).

JHVH-1
Jun 28, 2002

Abel Wingnut posted:

I want to find all files of a specific type (ex., all playlists of m3u type) in Snow Leopard. I've tried searching the appropriate directory for *.m3u but Finder finds nothing.

Am I erring anything or missing something?

Another way is to hit the plus in the search you can change it to just search for extensions:



The drop down on the left has "Other" then search for extension. Can save the search for later too to save time if you repeat this often. (I personally hate m3u files cause I accidentally add dupes to iTunes all the time).

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

I never used Spaces in SL but Mission Control's version of it is amazing in Lion. I'm relatively new to Mac and all but goddamn it's handy to have basically an unlimited amound of desktops - on two monitors to boot - and different wallpapers for each one to signify which one I'm using at the moment. And I can switch between them by nudging my mousewheel. Loving this.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Is anyone else having issues with Sparrow crashing every time it's started? This was with 1.3.1 but upgrading to 1.3.2, same deal. On a C2D unibody MPB running Lion.

Kind of annoying.

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004

Annoying useability oversight with getting rid of the default Applications folder in the launchbar and replacing it with launchpad.

You used to be able to pretty much install an app by just dragging it to the applications folder in the launchbar. It does not work by dragging it to the launbchpad. Of course its easy enough to fix, but I've just gotten off the phone from my dear grandma who's hopelessly confused about how to install an app like she used to, because even though launchpad LOOKS like its a folders and files thing, its more akin to the pretend files/folders setup in windows 3.1 (Sort of, in that it doesnt map to the realworld arangement of stuff in Applications).

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Stare-Out posted:

I never used Spaces in SL but Mission Control's version of it is amazing in Lion. I'm relatively new to Mac and all but goddamn it's handy to have basically an unlimited amound of desktops - on two monitors to boot - and different wallpapers for each one to signify which one I'm using at the moment. And I can switch between them by nudging my mousewheel. Loving this.
I'm really liking Safari fullscreen in its own Space on my Air. I already used Spaces on my laptops because it adds so much more area to my workspace, but Mission Control really makes it a breeze now.

priznat posted:

Is anyone else having issues with Sparrow crashing every time it's started? This was with 1.3.1 but upgrading to 1.3.2, same deal. On a C2D unibody MPB running Lion.

Kind of annoying.
No problems here. Sorry. :(

bonzaisushi
Nov 15, 2003

doo dee doo dmt, lsd doo dmt, lsd doo dmt...
Any steam users have the hl2_osx app crashing shortly after launch? With my active card set at 9600 it crashes, when its set to the 9400m it launches without problems.

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?

bonzaisushi posted:

Any steam users have the hl2_osx app crashing shortly after launch? With my active card set at 9600 it crashes, when its set to the 9400m it launches without problems.

It does for me for L4D2, but not for L4D1 or TF2 (Geforce 320m). Performance doesn't seem to have improved with Lion, either. If anything it's slower, the latter two games were unplayable at my previous settings.

ndrake
Mar 29, 2002

You know, this is a damn fine cup of coffee.
I set up Mail.app (new Mail/ Lion) with a gmail account. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious... but how do I make it behave exactly like my iPad? I only want 30 days or 3 months or some predefined amount of time's archived emails to be downloaded, and the rest just wait for me on the server in case I search. When I used the account it downloaded my entire 2 gigs of email; I don't want to waste space.

Neurophonic
May 2, 2009

duck monster posted:

Annoying useability oversight with getting rid of the default Applications folder in the launchbar and replacing it with launchpad.

You used to be able to pretty much install an app by just dragging it to the applications folder in the launchbar. It does not work by dragging it to the launbchpad. Of course its easy enough to fix, but I've just gotten off the phone from my dear grandma who's hopelessly confused about how to install an app like she used to, because even though launchpad LOOKS like its a folders and files thing, its more akin to the pretend files/folders setup in windows 3.1 (Sort of, in that it doesnt map to the realworld arangement of stuff in Applications).

I think this is probably somewhat intentional, as it'll show how much better/easier the App Store is.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Not that anybody cares, but Quark, Inc. (the Quark Xpress guys? Remember?) was just acquired by a private equity firm.

http://www.quark.com/About_Quark/Press/PressDetail.aspx?ncid=1444

Once so popular it drove sales of MDD G4s running OS 9, now.. whatever.

NINbuntu 64
Feb 11, 2007

bonzaisushi posted:

Any steam users have the hl2_osx app crashing shortly after launch? With my active card set at 9600 it crashes, when its set to the 9400m it launches without problems.

This is a problem that kinda spans across all OSX releases. You have to make sure source games are pretty much always in focus during startup or they have like a 50% crash chance.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Although I'm not going to install Lion until it gets some serious patching I realized my Macbook Pro only has 1 gig of RAM so I'm getting a couple of 2 gig chips today. I didn't know about the Core 2 Duo requirement until yesterday so I was relieved so see I have a 2.16 C2D, probably one of the first MBP models that had one.

I'm looking forward to upgrading when things are not such a mess. My Mac experience started with the Lisa so there's something cool about keeping up with the latest version of the OS.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Binary Badger posted:

Not that anybody cares, but Quark, Inc. (the Quark Xpress guys? Remember?) was just acquired by a private equity firm.

http://www.quark.com/About_Quark/Press/PressDetail.aspx?ncid=1444

Once so popular it drove sales of MDD G4s running OS 9, now.. whatever.

I've put a grand total of three programs on my List.

QuickMail Pro: gone from the market, developer out of the market entirely
Powerpoint: Keynote, 'nuff said.
Quark: gently caress those guys too.

Comrade T-bone
Jun 14, 2008

RED MEAT!
If I'm on 10.6 and use time Machine to backup all my stuff and then put that on a computer with 10.7......that won't be a problem, right?

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?

Comrade T-bone posted:

If I'm on 10.6 and use time Machine to backup all my stuff and then put that on a computer with 10.7......that won't be a problem, right?

Nope.

SimpleCoax
Aug 7, 2003

TV is the thing this year.
Hair Elf
Well, I just found out that Lion and Xcode 4.1 completely remove MPI. Hope macports will get me OpenMPI back easily enough. I'm getting really concerned about Apple's idea for the future of its professional user base. Not just with this little MPI removal, but the other signs that they're shifting focus. I don't want to have to wind up stuck with just Linux down the road.

Chicago Death Rate
Jul 23, 2001

by Ralp
Hooked my Ipad2 up to the new MBP for the first time today and got this error "iTunes cannot read the content on this iPad...please restore". I'd been hooking it up to my Windows 7 laptop since I got it with no problems whatsoever. It doesn't work on the Windows laptop now either, same error. I would just restore it but I've downloaded a lot of apps and have some pretty important .pdfs which are from after the last time I had synced it.

I'm also in a particularly lovely situation where I can't get any internet whatsoever for personal items(deployed on a ship). Am I just poo poo out of luck for syncing up to my laptops?

I'd imagine I have the newest iTunes on my MPB since I got it July 1st. And I was using the iPad to download apps and such in Crete and Spain not too long ago. So it should have the latest firmware aswell.

All I want to do is put porn on it:(

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

You can re-download all the apps from iTunes the next chance you get without problems. Don't know about backing up your pdfs though

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Is there any way to get 10.7 Mail to integrate COMPLETELY with Gmail?

Like for example, now when I right click on a message and tell it to "Archive", when I look at the Gmail web UI it puts the message into a folder called [Imap]/Archive. If I draft a message, it gets put into [Imap]/Drafts instead of Gmail's "drafts".

... actually, that's pretty much my only two gripes. I can understand if the Drafts thing isn't possible to integrate, but is there any way to get the "Archive" function to not put mail into the [Imap]/Archive folder, and instead just mark it unread and hide it form the "inbox"?

I don't think I'm articulating this the best way, so hopefully someone knows what I'm trying to get at.

This wouldn't bother me so much if I didn't still use the Web UI on campus and I have a thing against extraneous folders where I don't need them.

e: I guess by "folders" I mean "labels" in gmail's case.

e2: Oh, also "Deleted Messages" (where Mail puts its trash) vs Gmail native "Trash"

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Aug 9, 2011

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unruly
May 12, 2002

YES!!!
Ahh, I love a good reactionary piece: http://tidbits.com/e/12398

OH NOES, MAH WINDOWSSS

:rolleyes:

The problem Apple is trying to solve is user process management. We're getting to the point in the game where you can have dozens upon dozens of applications open, all with their own windows and stuff in them. In previous incarnations of the OS you, mentally, had to manage what was open/running and what you should quit.

Now, when an application is truly not being used, the system can quietly spin it down to consume less resources, or process handles or what have you. You, the user, don't have to think about process management. You don't have to think about it on your phones, why should your desktop suddenly be any different? Furthermore, if you really [i]do[/] need it, it's state is saved and with one or two clicks you're right back to where you were again, sometimes you might not even realize you've left the application.

Yes, there are bugs and edge cases where this isn't going to work perfectly. Those rules can be tweaked, interfaces can change (I agree with some of the commenters that the icon should stay in the cmd-tab/dock for a bit -- perhaps fade out?). The thing that irks me though is when people whine and complain about 'the new' without really understanding the focus behind it.

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