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80085 posted:Rogers goal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZBLKrzseiA Harkes is such a gently caress nugget, its great to have him literally talking out of his rear end as the exact opposite of what he is saying comes true. I thought we played really well in the second half and can't wait to see more of a few of our players (like Shea).
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Even though Shea gets the credit, I'm still coming to terms with a sentence that includes "Robbie Rogers," "goal" and "Mexico" without the words "own" or "fall." I came to terms with Conor Casey's two-goal showing in Honduras, though, so everything should be OK.
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Aug 11, 2011 06:39
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Honestly if we need to find a new victory cigar striker to replace Conor Casey, Robbie Rodgers isn't the worst replacement. At least he has a little pace.
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Aug 11, 2011 06:47
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He certainly does have pace. That boy can run, he was past the two defenders and would have probably missed the shot, but he was fouled so we will never know. So great to see Shea out there, at 21, he is the future of the US attack, I think, along with Agudelo and Rogers. They bring excitement to the pitch that really feeds Landycakes and forces Landon to play his best. Beckerman was disappointing. I thought he would bring more to the team but he was just... invisible the whole game. Buddle was worthless. Jones out was a good choice but he might still have a place on the team as a reserve. Team looked great for having new faces and a new coach, in the second half. Jurgen will have his work cut out for him, but I think he can get this team pretty far if he is allowed to bring in who he wants and test everyone he can think of.
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Aug 11, 2011 08:20
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INteresting you guys hating on Beckerman. Wahl and Klinsmann both cited Dreds as having had a fantastic game and making the difference out there.
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Aug 11, 2011 08:21
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Jota posted:I am becoming less of a fan of Jones the more I watch him Beckerman actually looked really solid in his defense-heavy role, I thought.
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Aug 11, 2011 09:02
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No strong feelings about Beckerman either way. No real mistakes worth nothing, seemed to do fairly well. Nothing particularly remarkable, I guess, but that's much better than being a gently caress-up. I'll take it.
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Aug 11, 2011 09:35
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Really nice to see some changes that actually made a difference in the game, and not just in the 85th minute when it's too late for the subs to get established. Good to see some fresh new faces out there on the field as well. Hopefully a sign of bigger and better things to come. I will definitely take the tie considering the amount of time there was since Klinsmann took over. Want to see some more of Shea and Agudelo. Thought defensively we looked alright, at least in the 2nd half. Still need to work on our passing some more, but things look much much better than I remember them being in a long time. Like a breath of fresh air after almost drowning! Really at this point is anybody surprised or disappointed by the terrible reffing or the equally terrible John Harkes? I usually have to mute the television after a while so I can actually watch the game instead of just yelling at the terrible, idiotic trash that comes out of his mouth. I was actually joking before the game with my family about the opposite of what John Harkes says is really what's going on in the game...
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Aug 11, 2011 09:51
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I'm ok with the non pk call. It was a PK, but that poo poo happens and refs miss poo poo. The non red call was pretty bad though, that was the textbook definition of last man back. I'm not buying the argument that the other defender was there, Rogers was loving GONE, he blew by everything. Kid can run.
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Aug 11, 2011 10:22
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Mostly, I'm just sad I didn't end up seeing Robbie Rogers score a brace to beat Mexico.
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Aug 11, 2011 10:37
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80085 posted:I'm ok with the non pk call. It was a PK, but that poo poo happens and refs miss poo poo. The non red call was pretty bad though, that was the textbook definition of last man back. I'm not buying the argument that the other defender was there, Rogers was loving GONE, he blew by everything. Kid can run. Maybe the ref saw that it was Robbie Rogers and figured it wasn't an obvious goal scoring opportunity?
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dkj posted:I don't get why everyone is fawning over Mexico, they're not that good.
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Aug 11, 2011 13:34
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I thought Beckerman played very well. I like Torres and the way he plays but I also think he had an off game. Castillo's best attribute was not being Bornstein. Cherundolo and Bocanegra were the best Americans on the field for me. Jones was terrible. Donovan was poo poo the first half. It was nice to see the impact the subs had but I'm afraid it was as much a product of Mexico's deletions as our additions. I would say things are looking up though. Nice goal post Brandy, but the hecho en Mexico picture was starkly out of place coming from you.
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Aug 11, 2011 13:47
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JT Jag posted:Honestly if we need to find a new victory cigar striker to replace Conor Casey, Robbie Rodgers isn't the worst replacement. At least he has a little pace. Ah the memories. I'll never forget sitting at Crown & Anchor (The only place in the entire state of Nevada where the game could be viewed) and having both goals come just as I was explaining to the guy next to me that Casey is terrible.
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Aug 11, 2011 13:54
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Was Taters posted:INteresting you guys hating on Beckerman. Wahl and Klinsmann both cited Dreds as having had a fantastic game and making the difference out there. He wasn't awful, but what difference did he make? I just don't think he's good enough to be terribly useful at this level.
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Aug 11, 2011 13:59
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Popero posted:He wasn't awful, but what difference did he make? I just don't think he's good enough to be terribly useful at this level.
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Aug 11, 2011 14:02
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Suqit posted:I thought he played his role well; break up attacks and don't gently caress up too bad. It's academic, he loses his spot to Bradley when Holden returns. True enough, he was slotted as a defensive midfielder, and that's what he did.
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Aug 11, 2011 14:28
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cheese posted:Harkes is such a gently caress nugget, its great to have him literally talking out of his rear end as the exact opposite of what he is saying comes true. I just saw that clip of him immediately backpedaling after Shea sent in that cross, and Jesus is he a moron. I love how Darke just cuts him off and then he resumes talking with a "Shea did a good job..." What a piece of poo poo. Thankfully I was watching on Univision so I didn't have to listen to him.
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Aug 11, 2011 14:47
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Suqit posted:I thought he played his role well; break up attacks and don't gently caress up too bad. It's academic, he loses his spot to Bradley when Holden returns. I wouldn't bank on Bradley being a shoo-in. Beckerman is a guy who hardly ever makes a bad pass, hardly ever loses possession...and Bradley has a history of bad judgement. He's not fast, he's not a scorer but he guides traffic and I think he reads the game better than Bradley. I think he fits Klinsman's approach.
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Aug 11, 2011 15:03
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Can we never play Torres on the wing again, please? He's so much more comfortable and effective in the center. Not sure he displaces Holden when he gets back, but he looks a nice option off the bench.
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Aug 11, 2011 15:05
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We have one thousand options in central midfield, hilarious.
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Aug 11, 2011 15:19
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wicka posted:We have one thousand options in central midfield, hilarious. Your custom title. fuckin lol.
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Aug 11, 2011 15:37
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Wanted: one or two footballer(s) for the left (L) side of the pitch. Fame and beautiful women, plus first class travel for your million trips between the US and your European club. Contact: J. Klinsmann for further details.
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Aug 11, 2011 15:46
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Mr. Mambo posted:I wouldn't bank on Bradley being a shoo-in. Beckerman is a guy who hardly ever makes a bad pass, hardly ever loses possession...and Bradley has a history of bad judgement.
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Aug 11, 2011 16:27
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80085 posted:I'm ok with the non pk call. It was a PK, but that poo poo happens and refs miss poo poo. The non red call was pretty bad though, that was the textbook definition of last man back. I'm not buying the argument that the other defender was there, Rogers was loving GONE, he blew by everything. Kid can run. To be pedantic there is no textbook definition of last man back because there is no law of the game pertaining to the "last man." And this may explain why the ref didn't make the call. He thought he was being smart and says to himself that he's not going to give the red card because it's technically not a red card offense for the last man to foul a player. It's only a red card offense to deny an obvious goalscoring opportunity with a foul, and in this ref's opinion it was not an obvious goalscoring opportunity. He did give the yellow for the "professional foul"
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Aug 11, 2011 17:14
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I think the ref just didn't want to punish people too harshly in a friendly. It would also explains why there we no cards in the scuffle earlier.
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Aug 11, 2011 17:16
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Yeah, it looks like what Beckerman is good at is possession. Controlling the ball, making a good pass to someone who isn't immediately under pressure, and being available to receive a pass. It isn't spectacular but it is something we have been very poor at in the middle of the pitch. So.. where are we lacking options and depth still? Just CB, right?
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Aug 11, 2011 22:08
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ReleasetheKracker! posted:Yeah, it looks like what Beckerman is good at is possession. Controlling the ball, making a good pass to someone who isn't immediately under pressure, and being available to receive a pass. Ya, just CB, and LB, and RB, and striker and...
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Aug 11, 2011 22:33
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Tigren posted:Ya, just CB, and LB, and RB, and striker and... Well, technically we have some depth at RB (Cherundolo for the moment, Lichaj, and Chandler). Where we have absolutely none is definitely LB because it is Lichaj and then no one else. CB is going to be a tough one, too, but I think Boca can last long enough until we can blood a new guy.
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Aug 11, 2011 22:36
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I have no confidence in the depth of our entire defensive line, particularly both fullback positions. Obviously leftback is a whirling dervish right now with no one having nailed down the starting spot, and Dolo will almost certainly not still be in the squad by 2014 so we need a replacement at RB (unless he transitions to CB, he could possibly provide depth there even at age 35 if he stays uninjured, stranger things have happened).
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Aug 11, 2011 22:38
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JT Jag posted:I have no confidence in the depth of our entire defensive line, particularly both fullback positions. They given us no reason why we should have confidence. I haven't seen Chandler play and am looking forward to the next two games, but I'm trying to not get my hopes up considering how self hyped Castillo was before that game.
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Zach Loyd can easily play LB or RB at the same level we have currently. It won't take him long to separate himself from the rest of the defenders.* *Assuming he doesn't pull a Heath Pearce and pretend training isn't important
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Aug 11, 2011 23:21
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What? Training? Pish-posh, that is for losers. Everyone knows that games are what make a player good, not some crappy training sessions. Just look at the USA.
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Aug 11, 2011 23:28
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Was Taters posted:INteresting you guys hating on Beckerman. He has stupid loving hair that's big enough to fit his entire bong collection inside and that's why I hate on him. But yes he played fairly well yesterday. There are worse options.
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Aug 12, 2011 00:31
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Uh, I think you'll find that the best players all have stupid hair which is also why I am optimistic about Brek Shea.
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ReleasetheKracker! posted:Uh, I think you'll find that the best players all have stupid hair which is also why I am optimistic about Brek Shea.
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Valderrama's was a bit funny though and looked like it took some effort to maintain. Beckerman's looks like he hasn't had a wash in 15 years and that various insects and avifauna make their home among the ashes.
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Aug 12, 2011 01:13
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So glad Freddy is going to be getting some regular playing time now.
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He's not a hero, he's not a savior, forget what you know.
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CubanMissile posted:So glad Freddy is going to be getting some regular playing time now. Oh, you meant in league play: http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id/6857261/freddy-adu-signs-philadelphia-union
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