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The Supreme Court posted:The LAW can solve any problem. They fought the LAW and the LAW won
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I find I blow myself up with the LAW about as often as I blow other people up with the LAW. I did find one use for the LAW though in Paris though, I was temporarily out of GEP rockets and used the LAW in the basement of the Paris house as a mega-lockpick on the catacombs entrance. 
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Aug 11, 2011 21:42
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Grand Fromage posted:I once shot Louis Pan in the face with a LAW.
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Aug 11, 2011 23:07
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The LAW is clearly the best way to deal with Gunther in the cathedral. With careful aim you can kill him from about two rooms away. Also hilarious in Vandenburg with maxed out leg augs and heavy weapons skill - it becomes less of a stealth level and more of an artillery simulation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aaubVlhNK4 Mousepractice fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Aug 12, 2011 |
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Aug 12, 2011 00:33
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Mousepractice posted:The LAW is clearly the best way to deal with Gunther in the cathedral. With careful aim you can kill him from about two rooms away. Also hilarious in Vandenburg with maxed out leg augs and heavy weapons skill - it becomes less of a stealth level and more of an artillery simulation. I was hoping that video would be of JC jumping around Vandenberg like a giant mecha-jackrabbit that spews rockets. I was disappointed. 
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Aug 12, 2011 03:22
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I have a question about Liberty Island. I found a sunken barge nearby where Harley Fiben or whatever he's called is. I broke into it, but can't find a way back up. Do I have to swim around the island or something?
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Aug 12, 2011 05:50
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Anatharon posted:I have a question about Liberty Island. Should be an ramp out of the water right above the barge. It'll have bars around it but you can crouch under them. vvv Just look straight up when coming out of the water near that ramp and you should just jump on to it vvv Col. Roy Campbell fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Aug 12, 2011 |
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Aug 12, 2011 05:55
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^^^^ Yeah, that worked. Thanks! A new question, though. Can you screw yourself by taking really, really bad augs? Like, is Microfibal Muscle absolutely worthless compared to Combat Strength? (Though I'd imagine the opposite would be true if either.) Col. Roy Campbell posted:Should be an ramp out of the water right above the barge. It'll have bars around it but you can crouch under them. I'd tried to go up that, but it appears to be raised too far out of the water. I guess I'll try again. Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Aug 12, 2011 |
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Aug 12, 2011 05:55
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You can complete the game with no augs or items. You'll be fine. JC Denton is awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To2KassxUeE
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Aug 12, 2011 07:49
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Anatharon posted:^^^^ Yeah, that worked. Thanks! Augs are never really necessary and I always forget to use them, except for the light and regeneration/power recirculator. Why is JC so stubbornly set on using his power-hungry, freaky glowing eye nano poo poo when he could just buy a cheapo headlamp and save me lot of biocells? 
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Aug 12, 2011 07:55
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Coughing-up Tweed posted:Augs are never really necessary and I always forget to use them, except for the light and regeneration/power recirculator. Why is JC so stubbornly set on using his power-hungry, freaky glowing eye nano poo poo when he could just buy a cheapo headlamp and save me lot of biocells? I'd say regeneration, ballistic protection, and speed fundamentally change the game by turning you into superman. Other augs are largely equal, just depends what you feel like doing.
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Aug 12, 2011 07:58
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Coughing-up Tweed posted:Augs are never really necessary and I always forget to use them, except for the light and regeneration/power recirculator. Why is JC so stubbornly set on using his power-hungry, freaky glowing eye nano poo poo when he could just buy a cheapo headlamp and save me lot of biocells? He was never properly trained in its operation.
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Aug 12, 2011 08:27
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Anatharon posted:A new question, though. Can you screw yourself by taking really, really bad augs? Like, is Microfibal Muscle absolutely worthless compared to Combat Strength? (Though I'd imagine the opposite would be true if either.) You can't properly screw yourself but you can definitely make things harder for yourself by picking lovely augs. Unless you have Biomod, which balances them. You should have Biomod.
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Aug 12, 2011 08:43
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It is possible (and actually surprisingly easy) to complete the game with no skills and no augs. Hell, it's possible to do it with no items of any kind.
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Aug 12, 2011 09:07
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Hey, goons are probably the best people to ask this, but if "my friend" wanted to do a Kill All Children run, would you have to kill Sandra Renton, the underage prostitute?
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Aug 12, 2011 15:15
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Is she underage?
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Aug 12, 2011 15:19
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She's not a child anymore, DAD
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Aug 12, 2011 15:32
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Cicadalek posted:She's not a child anymore, DAD The best part is when she shouts "I'm LEAVING!" and proceeds to clop around the lobby.
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Aug 12, 2011 16:00
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^ She does leave, though.EngineerSean posted:Hey, goons are probably the best people to ask this, but if "my friend" wanted to do a Kill All Children run, would you have to kill Sandra Renton, the underage prostitute? I don't think so, she mentions she knows Vinny, the Marine, from high school. Actually, I can only think of a handful of children in the game so you might want to expand that run. YA SICKO Actually, that reminds me of the Shifter mod (which you should use, at least that, probably Biomod) testimonial: quote:"A UNATCO agent trained in melee weapons can hurl a crowbar with sufficient force and precision to crack the skull of a ten-year-old homeless boy in a single shot while rendering the candy bar he carries still edible."
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Aug 13, 2011 10:33
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Coughing-up Tweed posted:Augs are never really necessary and I always forget to use them, except for the light and regeneration/power recirculator. Why is JC so stubbornly set on using his power-hungry, freaky glowing eye nano poo poo when he could just buy a cheapo headlamp and save me lot of biocells? I seem to remember reading somewhere that the light aug isn't actually a light. Only JC can see it.
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Aug 13, 2011 19:01
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Speaking of the light aug, is there any easy way to change the bioelectric charge of certain augs? I'm playing with the dx10 renderer and while it looks great, dark areas are so dark that I'm finding myself using my flashlight much more than in the original. I guess it balances out with Biomod making things passive/free, but I hate playing knowing that using my flashlight is draining my energy. edit: Alternately anyone know how to make this HDR poo poo less dark edit: Actually, how do you make Deus Ex mods Lets Fuck Bro fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Aug 14, 2011 |
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Aug 13, 2011 22:07
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I seem to remember reading somewhere that the light aug isn't actually a light. Only JC can see it. *So, most of Redsun2020 then.
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Aug 14, 2011 02:56
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I seem to remember reading somewhere that the light aug isn't actually a light. Only JC can see it. IIRC, the devs intended for NPCs to see and react to the player's light, but the engine couldn't handle that.
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Aug 14, 2011 03:09
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I still love how "my vision is augmented" amounts to having a flash light in your eyeballs. I can't help but imagine JC Denton as a tiny man shaped train going through vents and tunnels.
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Aug 14, 2011 03:12
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Gynovore posted:IIRC, the devs intended for NPCs to see and react to the player's light, but the engine couldn't handle that. One of the little things that Invisible War did that was kind of cool was that your pistol's flashlight was visible to NPCs but you could find a modified pistol that used an infared light that was only visible to you thanks to your augs. It didn't really amount to much from a practical standpoint, but it was a cool little touch.
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Aug 14, 2011 03:13
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^ I think the same thing from the Greasel Hunter; a nice touch. Though I think by the time you get it it is less useful, but whatever.Gynovore posted:IIRC, the devs intended for NPCs to see and react to the player's light, but the engine couldn't handle that.
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Aug 14, 2011 05:24
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Doom Goon posted:^ I think the same thing from the Greasel Hunter; a nice touch. Though I think by the time you get it it is less useful, but whatever.
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Aug 14, 2011 06:00
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I'm on the Battery Park mission. I've destroyed the warehouse's generator and I can't seem to find my way back to town with the clinic and the park and the hotel. There doesn't seem to be a way to get off the loving rooftops. Can anyone tell me the right way to go? Can't just mod my way out of it or whatever, playing on the PS2. Amazing how this game holds up even on an outdated console. Why they haven't updated this game with current-gen graphics and a rerelease, I'll never know.
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Aug 14, 2011 09:32
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bloodysabbath posted:I'm on the Battery Park mission. I've destroyed the warehouse's generator and I can't seem to find my way back to town with the clinic and the park and the hotel. There doesn't seem to be a way to get off the loving rooftops. Can anyone tell me the right way to go? If you've destroyed the generator, you're in the warehouse. Head to the first floor and walk out.
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Aug 14, 2011 09:37
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bloodysabbath posted:I'm on the Battery Park mission. I've destroyed the warehouse's generator and I can't seem to find my way back to town with the clinic and the park and the hotel. There doesn't seem to be a way to get off the loving rooftops. Can anyone tell me the right way to go? Why are you playing it on the PS2 
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Aug 14, 2011 10:07
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SwissCM posted:Why are you playing it on the PS2 Have a Macbook Pro. Could have played it on Steam (I own it there too) but I wanted the girlfriend to be able to watch this wonderful apex of fuckin' everything re: game design from the comfort of our couch.
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Aug 14, 2011 10:42
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The PS2 version is pretty crippled. The levels are chopped up and as such many gameplay options are missing. You could play it just fine on your Macbook using Bootcamp or using Wine.
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Aug 14, 2011 10:47
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If I remember correctly you should be able to just exit the ground floor of the warehouse and there's a long road/tunnel that leads back to Hell's Kitchen
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Aug 14, 2011 12:08
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Finally finished Deus Ex for the first time with just the vanilla game, I probably won't get around to replaying anytime soon but I assume when I do I'll play with New Vision and maybe a gameplay mod or two. I still have plenty of time before DXHR, thinking of trying IW, disregarding gameplay changes how's the story in comparison to DX?
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Aug 14, 2011 13:59
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Reive posted:Finally finished Deus Ex for the first time with just the vanilla game, I probably won't get around to replaying anytime soon but I assume when I do I'll play with New Vision and maybe a gameplay mod or two. It's a bit of an extension of DX1. To me, it felt a little forced, plotwise, but for gameplay it's pretty fun. Just forget that it's supposed to be a sequel and you'll be fine. NecroBob fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Aug 14, 2011 |
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Aug 14, 2011 14:36
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Reive posted:Finally finished Deus Ex for the first time with just the vanilla game, I probably won't get around to replaying anytime soon but I assume when I do I'll play with New Vision and maybe a gameplay mod or two. The story is decent, but it seems sooooooooooooo slow until you get out of the loving first couple areas. I'm "lucky" enough to still have my copy for the original xbox, and I try to play through it about once a year, but I usually get burnt out shortly after the school level.
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Aug 14, 2011 16:41
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Reive posted:Finally finished Deus Ex for the first time with just the vanilla game, I probably won't get around to replaying anytime soon but I assume when I do I'll play with New Vision and maybe a gameplay mod or two. I went into IW WANTING to like it, if only to be contrary, but it felt like I was playing a bad N64 port of a Deus Ex sequel and I never got out of the starting areas. Then again I also had major issues just getting it to run correctly. I ended up hating the game a lot because I couldn't bear to attempt playing much further than exiting the school. (I actually had to open task manager and close the executable any time a loading screen came up. A few minutes later it would launch itself again with the level loaded. I don't understand why. I figured it out after spending 5 minutes on the first loading screen after character generation, wondering why it wasn't launching.)
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Aug 14, 2011 16:57
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RichieWolk posted:The story is decent, but it seems sooooooooooooo slow until you get out of the loving first couple areas. I'm "lucky" enough to still have my copy for the original xbox, and I try to play through it about once a year, but I usually get burnt out shortly after the school level. It seems I won't get to play it, this old hunk of crap I've been playing DX1 on won't handle it, and there's something terribly wrong with the movement/camera in the xbox version, don't know if it's worth dealing with.
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Aug 14, 2011 17:02
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Reive posted:It seems I won't get to play it, this old hunk of crap I've been playing DX1 on won't handle it, and there's something terribly wrong with the movement/camera in the xbox version, don't know if it's worth dealing with. Invisible War is not worth any amount of hassle. Go give The Nameless Mod a go, if you like. It gets flak here for its premise, but stupid first hub fetch questing aside it's as fun to play as standard Deus Ex. Possibly more, in places, because of the ridiculous weapons you get to toy around with.
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Dr Snofeld posted:Invisible War is not worth any amount of hassle. Go give The Nameless Mod a go, if you like. It gets flak here for its premise, but stupid first hub fetch questing aside it's as fun to play as standard Deus Ex. Possibly more, in places, because of the ridiculous weapons you get to toy around with. Either that or Malkavian, anything to pass the time really.
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