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Stabby McDamage posted:Having some trouble with my Blackwidow...I got it used with some minor damage (cracked corner, missing keycap), but it looks like it has more problems then that. Take it apart and clean it - bet they spilled coke or something and didn't bother to clean it properly.
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Welp, Glompix talked me into getting a Tenkeyless Cherry-Brown keyboard. It looks pretty dope from the reviews and I wanted something different then a Das. I'll give a trip report in a week or two when I get it!
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gently caress man that's awesome. I'm thinking about picking up one too to replace my Blackwidow. I'd love to just swap my brown full size Filco at work out with it but the Blackwidow is way too loud.  Tab8715 posted:Is the only place to buy a Filco keyboard Amazon? I'm trying to get a full-size, but I'd like my replacement keys and red escape and possibly blue enter key? Yeah, it sucks the filcos on amazon don't come with that stuff. Maybe they don't at all anymore. If you don't mind blanks, WASD sells sets and singles of keycaps in all kinds of colors. Probably going to get some of those really soon.  It also sucks they don't have Linear R Filcos on there either because I feel like those might be even better than browns for mass gaming.
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glompix posted:gently caress man that's awesome. I'm thinking about picking up one too to replace my Blackwidow. I'd love to just swap my brown full size Filco at work out with it but the Blackwidow is way too loud. I don't know if they actually ship to America but you could try the Amazon retailer's own website: http://keyboardco.com/ I ordered from there with some red keys to make it look pretty  Edit: Well I guess it didn't actually come with them as you needed to order them separately. General Emergency fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Aug 10, 2011 |
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If some other European goons want to try a mechanical keyboard on a budget (and, like me, don't like the Razer or Steelseries offers), I've found that various German retailers sell some models of Cherry G80-3000 for significantly cheaper than Keyboardco.com (Mindfactory.de will ship one internationally for about 75€, instead of 97£). Link: http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=kb&sort=p&bpmax=&asuch=G80-3000&v=e&plz=&dist=&filter=+Liste+aktualisieren+&xf=1041_Cherry Refer to this chart (click on "models") to make sure that you get the layout and switch type you want. The switch rule is P=black Q=brown S=blue, then there's two letters for the layout, and the number at the end of the code indicates the colour (0=white 1=grey 2=black).
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Trip report on the 'silent' Das keyboard (Cherry browns) I ordered a few days ago. It's exactly what I expected, great feel to the keys, I can't stop typing on it. Of course, I had the advantage of knowing what Cherry browns were like before buying, but nonetheless, very happy with the purchase. I love gaming with it as well. I bought from NCIX in Canada.
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Startacus posted:It appears as if they are just plastic membranes There are good membrane keyboards and there are bad ones. I love the feel of the Keytronic I have stowed away somewhere, that is a definite membrane but I love the feel of the thing; it's also the only Keytronic I've ever seen that had a regular sized Backspace. I don't know why Keytronic thinks that it's so drat difficult to hit enter. The cheap value Logitech I have isn't too bad either; it's no award winner and you can tell there's ghosting issues but it is a solid performer overall. On the other hand there were some real dog AT keyboards that I recall from back in the day, mushy keys, bad feedback, quick wear. Nowdays it still exists, don't ever buy an iHome keyboard, for example.
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glompix posted:gently caress man that's awesome. I'm thinking about picking up one too to replace my Blackwidow. I'd love to just swap my brown full size Filco at work out with it but the Blackwidow is way too loud. Goddammit. Are there any Filco Alternatives at all? I hate Glossy Keyboard Syndrome with passion, and want my replacement keys.
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Tab8715 posted:Goddammit. Why not try WASD? I got the semi-custom one today with MX Blues and it feels really nice. 
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I've been on the fence about a new keyboard for a while now. I use a cheap-cheap-cheap Microsoft keyboard which I replaced once since 2004. It's "fine", but I'd still like a nicer one to go with my new PC. I want mechanical switches. I used a mate's Razer BlackWidow or whatever with the backlit keyboard and that was kind of nice. I hate the backlight though. I quite liked the "easily usable as a weapon" weight and solidness of it too. Apparently, that keyboard has Cherry MX Blue switches, which I liked the feel of but not so much the noise of. If that's the only way to get that exact feel, then I'll go for a keyboard with MX Blue switches, but is there a switch type that feels exactly the same without the audible "click click click"? I quite like the look of Leopold keyboards, and N-key-rollover is somehow appealing (useless as it seems). Leopold seem to make the exact same keyboard with different switch types, so I guess I can get one that feels like what I like... Like this: 
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After lurking in this thread for a couple months and using lovely dell keyboards, I finally ordered a full size Filco Ninja Majestouch with brown switches... it's been quite the upgrade and I'd really recommend it for anyone out there as an entry level mechanical. Ordered it smoothly through Amazon once as soon as I got back. I've really enjoyed the switch and it all just feels more natural typing on this keyboard after a couple of days. The noise is different and relatively louder but it's not that annoying and you obviously get used to it. now I just want to try out (and hear) the other switches- can't find a store around here with any. Are there any national stores in the US that stock mechanical? My local Best Buy definitely didn't...
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AlphaDog posted:I quite like the look of Leopold keyboards, and N-key-rollover is somehow appealing (useless as it seems). Leopold seem to make the exact same keyboard with different switch types, so I guess I can get one that feels like what I like... They're pretty heavy. Like the heaviest "modern" keyboard I've handled. Nice and solid. Good for smacking things. I'd suggest you look into browns, which are like blues except without the audible click. The tactile feeling is a little different, but it's pretty much the closest thing there'd be.
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AlphaDog posted:I've been on the fence about a new keyboard for a while now. I use a cheap-cheap-cheap Microsoft keyboard which I replaced once since 2004. It's "fine", but I'd still like a nicer one to go with my new PC. In my experience, no switch feels exactly like a Cherry blue, not even the Cherry brown. If the click bothers you, I'm told you can reduce the overall noise somewhat with the "o-ring" mod. WASD Keyboards can preinstall that mod for you, if you want. That said, I prefer browns to blues, and will probably replace the Razer Blackwidow I have at work, both due to noise and overall feel. I'll probably try a WASD keyboard. Incidentally, they make a non-backlit Blackwidow, and Best Buy stocks them. As for that Leopold, have you found a place that sells a full-size Leopold in the US? I only saw the tenkeyless versions domestically. dox posted:After lurking in this thread for a couple months and using lovely dell keyboards, I finally ordered a full size Filco Ninja Majestouch with brown switches... it's been quite the upgrade and I'd really recommend it for anyone out there as an entry level mechanical. Ordered it smoothly through Amazon once as soon as I got back. I've really enjoyed the switch and it all just feels more natural typing on this keyboard after a couple of days. The noise is different and relatively louder but it's not that annoying and you obviously get used to it. now I just want to try out (and hear) the other switches- can't find a store around here with any. Are there any national stores in the US that stock mechanical? My local Best Buy definitely didn't... Unfortunately not, with the exception of the Razer Blackwidow, which Best Buy stocks. That has Cherry blues, and the box has the arrow keys exposed for you to test out.
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Stabby McDamage posted:In my experience, no switch feels exactly like a Cherry blue, not even the Cherry brown. If the click bothers you, I'm told you can reduce the overall noise somewhat with the "o-ring" mod. WASD Keyboards can preinstall that mod for you, if you want. That said, I prefer browns to blues, and will probably replace the Razer Blackwidow I have at work, both due to noise and overall feel. I'll probably try a WASD keyboard. Hmmm... maybe I'll try the Browns somewhere before I decide. No, I haven't found a Leopold stocker in the USA, but I'm in Australia, and there's 2 places within 15 minutes drive of me which have them, but unfortunately they're both warehouses with "make an online order and we'll email you when it can be picked up" policies, so no going in to try the keyboards out. They're both super loving cheap for PC parts though.
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AlphaDog posted:Hmmm... maybe I'll try the Browns somewhere before I decide. Cherry clears are hard to come by but they'd be closer to blues than browns. The tactile bump is bigger and they're not as light. Browns and blues feel way different but are both awesome in their own unique way. Blues feel like popping packing bubbles, but browns are just super light and comfy.
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teraflame posted:Why not try WASD? Wow that is one sexy board. love how the text on the keys is the same color as the keys themselves, it's closest to no text without having no text. can you compare qualitywise this to the Filcos? or can anyone? I want a mech KB and I read here that dasKB isn't greatly built and the shiny bezel bugs me so it's between this and the Filcos, these are cheaper and have awesome customizations, and you can get the orings for 13 buck extra and it's still cheaper than the Filco. I don't want to scrounge on quality, personally I think they both look equally great for different reasons. runaway dog fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Aug 12, 2011 |
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glompix posted:Cherry clears are hard to come by but they'd be closer to blues than browns. The tactile bump is bigger and they're not as light. Browns and blues feel way different but are both awesome in their own unique way. Blues feel like popping packing bubbles, but browns are just super light and comfy. I reckon I'll go with the browns, after reading a shitload last night. It'd still be nice to try one out first though. Since I'm using an $8 keyboard anything is likely to be an improvement.
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:Wow that is one sexy board. love how the text on the keys is the same color as the keys themselves, it's closest to no text without having no text. can you compare qualitywise this to the Filcos? or can anyone? I want a mech KB and I read here that dasKB isn't greatly built and the shiny bezel bugs me so it's between this and the Filcos, these are cheaper and have awesome customizations, and you can get the orings for 13 buck extra and it's still cheaper than the Filco. I don't want to scrounge on quality, personally I think these look nicer aesthetically. I've had a Filco and the WASD feels just as sturdy, if not more. Differences from filco are it comes with a braided cable and no rubber tipped feet on the pull-out stands. The keycaps are etched so they have a noticeable feel. Build quality on Filco/Leopold/WASD are all very close, just pick what you like aesthetically really.
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teraflame posted:I've had a Filco and the WASD feels just as sturdy, if not more. Differences from filco are it comes with a braided cable and no rubber tipped feet on the pull-out stands. The keycaps are etched so they have a noticeable feel. Build quality on Filco/Leopold/WASD are all very close, just pick what you like aesthetically really. The laser engraving was a really cool innovation, because it means it's economical to fully customize every individual key of the keyboard -- check out their customizer app. You can make every key cap any color you want, and put whatever text or symbol you want on it. It's $140 for a fully custom board, $120 for a "semi-custom" one, where they limit your options to make it easier to do in bulk. They'll even install rubber o-rings in each individual keycap for $20 (reduces noise), or sell you just the custom keycaps without the board for $50 (if you want to trick out some Cherry-based board you already have. The guy who runs it is active on geekhack, and you can contact him directly if you want something zany. They're a small enough company that it sounds like they can accommodate that sort of thing. I haven't gotten one myself, but reviews look good, so I'll probably pick one up at some point.
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Decided to take this opportunity to go tenkeyless, and since I don't really like the Leopolds, Filco it is. Might grab a bag of o rings from WASD though. I was thinking, if you replaced the Caps lock key and the scroll lock key on the Leopolds to ones without the fiber optic on them, you wouldn't have bright rear end LEDs, it would instead make a blue halo around the key, probably look pretty badass. runaway dog fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Aug 13, 2011 |
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Depths posted:Been using my Filco ninja majestouch 2 with brown switches for an hour now and it feels so much better to type on this keyboard than the apple keyboard i had. I can second this response. I've been using the Mac wireless keyboard at work and a Saitek II keyboard for games and coding at home. This new Filco Ninja feels amazing, it wakes my girlfriend and I can type or play on it for hours. The only thing I miss is the multimedia keys of the Saitek, but I can get used to that.
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You can quite easily set your keyboard up with multimedia keys, just get a third party program and rebind some keys that you don't use.
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Taima posted:You can quite easily set your keyboard up with multimedia keys, just get a third party program and rebind some keys that you don't use. This is the best option. I use Sharpkeys personally.
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Do they work if the music program isn't in focus, like if you're playing a game full-screen? this is my main issue with my eclipse's media keys, in that they are completely useless.
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:Do they work if the music program isn't in focus, like if you're playing a game full-screen? this is my main issue with my eclipse's media keys, in that they are completely useless. There's a ton of apps that can do this. I use Winamp as my player, so I can just use its global shortcut keys options, but if you don't use that, you can use something like Autohotkey to bind key combos to standard multimedia keys. You can even override Windows default combos, like Win+B.
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Full Circle posted:This is the best option. I use Sharpkeys personally. Not sure I'd say "best", myself. Nothing beats dedicated keys. Since nobody bloody makes a mechanical keyboard with them, someone should make a little USB addon that clips onto the top edge. Make it exactly like the media key cluster on the Dell keyboards and you'd sell thousands.
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Stabby McDamage posted:There's a ton of apps that can do this. I use Winamp as my player, so I can just use its global shortcut keys options, but if you don't use that, you can use something like Autohotkey to bind key combos to standard multimedia keys. You can even override Windows default combos, like Win+B. oh, I forgot to mention I use itunes, it's very stubborn. I have like 6 different ipods/phones so I don't plan on ever leaving. VVVVV Neat. thanks runaway dog fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Aug 14, 2011 |
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:oh, I forgot to mention I use itunes, it's very stubborn. I have like 6 different ipods/phones so I don't plan on ever leaving. Maybe this or this? (I just googled it)
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thanks to this last page I just ordered a red ESC, space bar, and numpad 5 for my g6v2
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dox posted:I ordered a full size Filco Ninja Majestouch with brown switches... it's been quite the upgrade and I'd really recommend it for anyone out there as an entry level mechanical. By "entry level," you mean the best keyboard on the market.
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40 OZ posted:By "entry level," you mean the best keyboard on the market. good thing i made the right choice. i meant that if you wanted to switch it's a good one to start with- and to keep, apparently
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40 OZ posted:By "entry level," you mean the best keyboard on the market. Well, you also have the considerably more expensive Topre-based keyboards like the Happy Hacking Professional or the Realforce ones, but whether they're better than quality Cherry-based boards like Filco and Leopold probably comes down to personal switch preference.
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I have a filco majestouch with blues and kinda wish I would have gotten the brownssss also, somehow lost the little tool to lift the keys off AND my extra keys I had left ( i installed the purple WASD and red esc )
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40 OZ posted:By "entry level," you mean the best keyboard on the market. I would argue that WASD is shaping up to be better. Cheaper, built just as good, and comes with a variety of customization options you just can't get without a load of trouble normally. Plus they're based in california with great customer service. Guy who runs it frequents a lot of keyboard forums and is very responsive.
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teraflame posted:I would argue that WASD is shaping up to be better. Cheaper, built just as good, and comes with a variety of customization options you just can't get without a load of trouble normally. Plus they're based in california with great customer service. Guy who runs it frequents a lot of keyboard forums and is very responsive. I really like the idea of a US keyboard company, but their casings looks so blah. Filco, and to an extent Leopold, styled cases look much better. The only thing I don't like about Leopold is the more distinct rounding. Also I haven't seen an option for tenkeyless yet. I'm pretty vain though, so aside from the tenkeyless thing they look pretty sweet.
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The one thing I don't like about my Leopold is the thin border. Like if they added a half inch all around it would be great. Although I tend to move it around a lot. If it just sat on a desk it'd be fine.
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glompix posted:I really like the idea of a US keyboard company, but their casings looks so blah. Filco, and to an extent Leopold, styled cases look much better. The only thing I don't like about Leopold is the more distinct rounding. Also I haven't seen an option for tenkeyless yet. Yeah I noticed where the top connects to the bottom of the kb there's a big seam on those WASDs if that makes sense, I also don't like how it curves down in front of the space bar. it's still pretty drat nice looking though. Got my Filco with browns today  Tenkeyless was the way to go, now I can type in front of me instead of slightly off to the left. Don't really seem to have any issues transferring from my eclipse, it's a bit loud but that's only because I type like a barbarian. I noticed I'm better at using the shift key now, before I would always have to go back. I'll miss my numeric keypad for typing passwords, but I could always grab a cheap standalone one if it becomes a giant issue.
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I would love to buy something like the 'Happy Hacking Keyboard' or the 'KBC Poker' (see pics) but they're both wired! Are there any small, minimalist, mechanical, keyboards that use wireless? I'm using the apple wireless keyboard now and it's good, but I'm looking for something less chicklet-y that has blank and/or customizable keycaps. Any ideas?  
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Got my leopold today and it owns! I didn't realize how small it was but it really has a unique feel to it. Going from rubber-domes -> brown switches is like a whole new experience! Should I ever be worried about one of the switches breaking? Or do they last forever?
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err posted:Got my leopold today and it owns! I didn't realize how small it was but it really has a unique feel to it. Going from rubber-domes -> brown switches is like a whole new experience! Should I ever be worried about one of the switches breaking? Or do they last forever? 10 million or so keypresses are what they are supposed to last for, but they do break on occasion. Fortunately, you can buy individual switches online, and if you don't mind desoldering the old switch and putting a new one in, replacements are easy.
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