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Cerv posted:Terminator and Terminator 2 are two different movies, with separate plots where time travel works differently in each. It's fiction so we'll let them away with that. It's only a plot issue if you're contradicting yourself within one story, not two stories made five years apart. I see it as two movies and the show. Nothing more nothing less.
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Sizzlechest posted:Planet of the Apes and Dragonball Z have different time travel models. PotA is essentially, "whatever happened, happpened." You can't change history with time travel, period. DBZ's model is that you can't change history in your timeline but you can change it in an alternate one. I seem to remember characters having the same discussion in two different Apes movies in which they compared traveling through time to changing lanes on the freeway. It seemed to imply that one could travel to different time lines. But I can't find anything online to back up this claim.
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Aug 19, 2011 02:32
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There was a time loop that caused a predestination paradox. The ending of the last movie was somewhat ambiguous. Was the statue crying tears of joy because the future would be different or tears of sorrow since it was all for naught? (It was stated by the director of the film that it was a tears of joy of creating a better future, but screenwriter Paul Dehn stated that the tear was to tell the audience that Caesar's efforts ultimately failed.)
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Aug 19, 2011 02:46
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KillRoy posted:I watched Children of Men last night, and was wondering what movie holds the record for the longest scene without cuts? Shorter than FFD's mention of Russian Ark, but Timecode is a splitscreen with four 90-minute long consecutive takes from different perspectives.
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Aug 19, 2011 03:08
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Russian Ark is a great film. Not only is it all one take, the camera is constantly moving. There's a lot of parts where an invisible cut would be easy to hide, yet it was not utilized. As if it would make a difference, but it does give a dreamlike quality.
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Aug 19, 2011 04:39
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What font are subtitles in? It's kinda nice looking.
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Aug 19, 2011 06:27
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penismightier posted:What font are subtitles in? It's kinda nice looking. Papyrus. :ducks:
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Aug 19, 2011 06:44
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Ninja Gamer posted:Each Terminator movie(that deals with time travel) supports a different theory on how time travel works. Since there is no "Doc Brown" character who would be an established and reliable expert in this franchise, anything any character has said on the subject is suspect at best. Well, considering that in BTTF3 Doc reneged on all of his previously stated opinions regarding time travel... quote:If there is another Termiator film made, I suspect it will support the same time travel theory as the Planet of the Apes series and Dragon Ball Z. Although, one could argue that The Sarah Conner Chronicals supported(by which I mean it didn't contadict) this theory.
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Aug 19, 2011 20:21
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scary ghost dog posted:
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Aug 19, 2011 20:59
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Sizzlechest posted:They cheated with CGI effects, so it may not count. I'm almost positive I read an interview with Cuarón where he claims the only "cheating" done with the long battlefield scene was removing the blood spatter on the camera in post.
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Aug 19, 2011 22:25
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peer posted:I'm almost positive I read an interview with Cuarón where he claims the only "cheating" done with the long battlefield scene was removing the blood spatter on the camera in post. The long shot at the end is actually several merged together. This article goes into detail on how it and a couple of other scenes were done: http://www.awn.com/articles/production/ichildren-meni-invisible-vfx-future-decay/page/1%2C1
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Aug 19, 2011 22:57
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I heard this piano riff on NPR the other day, and I swore I heard it in a movie. It was kinda a cheery folky solo piano riff, and I'm pretty sure this movie had a narrator and it was based in sometime in the 50's or 60's or something. I'm pretty sure the whole movie had this piano playing in scenes of people doing things. Someone please put me out of my misery and tell me what movie I'm vaguely remembering.
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Aug 19, 2011 23:09
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ease posted:I heard this piano riff on NPR the other day, and I swore I heard it in a movie. It was kinda a cheery folky solo piano riff, and I'm pretty sure this movie had a narrator and it was based in sometime in the 50's or 60's or something. I'm pretty sure the whole movie had this piano playing in scenes of people doing things. The Entertainer?
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Aug 20, 2011 01:13
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Argh, I figured it out. It was True Grit and I was off a whole century. NPR always steals music clips from everything and drives me nuts.
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ease posted:Argh, I figured it out. It was True Grit and I was off a whole century. NPR always steals music clips from everything and drives me nuts.
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Aug 20, 2011 04:12
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How much does Apple pay for the "Trailers in Quicktime" exclusivity?
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Aug 20, 2011 04:46
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Watched Quantum of Solace last night. How in the hell does James Bond make it from Australia to Italy after M cancels his passports and credit cards?
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Aug 22, 2011 20:59
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foodfight posted:Watched Quantum of Solace last night. How in the hell does James Bond make it from Australia to Italy after M cancels his passports and credit cards? Allow me to amplify: he's a superfuckingspy. Sneaking into poo poo is pretty much his core competency. He sneaks into underground poo poo and underwater poo poo and fuckin' poo poo in outer space with laser all over the place. Italy? Pfffft.
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Aug 22, 2011 21:23
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You really think that he does not have passports and credit cards hidden in case something happens?
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Aug 22, 2011 21:41
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How often is ADR/Dubbing used in film and for that matter, television? Ive gotten to the point where I am so unsure, I assume almost all dialogue is overdubbed. To expand on this question as well, do the actors stand around in a recording studio and record their dialogue like they would do for animation? Please someone enlighten me.
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Aug 22, 2011 21:52
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sursumdeorsum posted:How often is ADR/Dubbing used in film and for that matter, television? It's becoming more and more common nowadays. I'm not sure of an actual percentage, but any scene where there's any use of heavy machinery (cranes, giant fans, etc) are likely ADRed, and a great deal more besides. And yes, they go into a little phone booth type thing in a studio with the movie playing in front of them so they can match up their delivery with what's on screen. It's actually pretty cool!
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Polaron posted:It's becoming more and more common nowadays. I'm not sure of an actual percentage, but any scene where there's any use of heavy machinery (cranes, giant fans, etc) are likely ADRed, and a great deal more besides. Man, the first time I successfully did ADR in school it was like magic.
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Aug 22, 2011 22:13
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bobkatt013 posted:You really think that he does not have passports and credit cards hidden in case something happens? Ok yeah, I get that, but isn't the whole point of the movie to actually SHOW what a superspy does? Couldn't they just have an intro scene where M gives him a mission and then the next scene is James Bond after the mission all like "I'm James loving Bond!" and high fiving everyone? Or is QoS just a bad movie?
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Aug 22, 2011 22:27
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feedmyleg posted:Man, the first time I successfully did ADR in school it was like magic. Did you have one of those actors who really gets into it? Had an actress once who ran around the studio then picked up an intern's book-filled backpack a dozen times in order to sound as exhausted as her character looked.
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Aug 22, 2011 22:28
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foodfight posted:Ok yeah, I get that, but isn't the whole point of the movie to actually SHOW what a superspy does? Couldn't they just have an intro scene where M gives him a mission and then the next scene is James Bond after the mission all like "I'm James loving Bond!" and high fiving everyone? Or is QoS just a bad movie? Its not a great one but it is also a direct sequel to Casino Royale.
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Aug 22, 2011 22:29
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foodfight posted:Ok yeah, I get that, but isn't the whole point of the movie to actually SHOW what a superspy does? Couldn't they just have an intro scene where M gives him a mission and then the next scene is James Bond after the mission all like "I'm James loving Bond!" and high fiving everyone? Or is QoS just a bad movie? This is a consistent problem with the franchise. Have Barbara Broccoli call me when the movies are slower-paced and give painstaking background on everything James Bond does.
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Aug 22, 2011 22:33
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sursumdeorsum posted:How often is ADR/Dubbing used in film and for that matter, television? Murch says it's something like 75%... and that was years ago. On lower budget stuff you try to use as much on-set recordings as possible.
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Aug 22, 2011 22:38
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I remember catching a bit of Sex and the City 2 on HBO and the ADR is very apparent in that. Every single line is ADR, from what I saw. They did a good job with it lining up to mouth movements, but every time someone spoke the audio quality sounded way too 'voiceover'-y and perfect. It made an already surreal movie that much more eerie.
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Aug 22, 2011 23:02
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This isn't necessarily ADR but it's always fun to watch an over the shoulder dialogue shot, and to watch the mouth of the person whose face is partially obscured. The dialogue very often doesn't match up with their lip movements
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You could have a good time in Also in Manos all the females voices where dubbed by the same person bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Aug 23, 2011 |
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Aug 22, 2011 23:13
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Riptor posted:This isn't necessarily ADR but it's always fun to watch an over the shoulder dialogue shot, and to watch the mouth of the person whose face is partially obscured. The dialogue very often doesn't match up with their lip movements I was watching the latest Die Hard movie and that is all over the place, obviously as a result of them editing it from R to PG-13.
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Aug 22, 2011 23:22
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bobkatt013 posted:You could have a good time in All the male voices, too.
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Aug 23, 2011 00:00
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I've become annoyingly good at picking out dialogue that's been dubbed after the fact. It can be distracting. There's a direct correlation between how many lines are done with ADR and how good the movie is. Also there are two or three episodes of Arrested Development where there's so much loving dubbing it's evident they totally rewrote the episode after they filmed it.
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Aug 23, 2011 00:29
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It's one of those things where you only hear it if they did a bad job of it.
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Aug 23, 2011 00:35
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Role Play McMurphy posted:There's a direct correlation between how many lines are done with ADR and how good the movie is. So they loop it in their living room as it's playing on a computer so the new dialogue now has additional humms from computer fans and air conditioning as well as getting muddied by the reflections off the wall. Then to fill in the gaps the foley artist has to create replacement noises. The rule is, you can have the worst picture quality in the world, but if your sound is jarring no one will watch it.
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Aug 23, 2011 05:50
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The problem I have with excessive looping (or looping in general) is how it seems to dilute the "in the moment" performance of an actor, because they're having to act as well as make a conscious effort to sync up the dialogue with the picture. Attempting to recreate on-set vocal inflections inside a recording studio while having to focus on sync issues leaves the dialogue more stilted, ineffectual and unnaturally over-enunciated. I'm sure there are those rare actors who can pull it off, and there are probably great sound engineers who can EQ the vocal just right, so it sounds like it's being spoken in the natural environment of the scene and not a soundproof room. But most of the time, it's pretty glaring.
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Some of the worst ADR I've ever heard has been on Curb Your Enthusiasm. Sometimes the ADR'd dialogue isn't even at the same volume as the lines recorded on set.
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codyclarke posted:Some of the worst ADR I've ever heard has been on Curb Your Enthusiasm. Sometimes the ADR'd dialogue isn't even at the same volume as the lines recorded on set. If you've watched movies from say, before 1990 this happens alot, even in "big" budget stuff.
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morestuff posted:This is a consistent problem with the franchise. Have Barbara Broccoli call me when the movies are slower-paced and give painstaking background on everything James Bond does. I'm almost afraid to ask what the script would look like. I figure there would be 50 pages of Bond writing out and mailing child support checks, arguing with his latest hookup about whether that was a wart on his dong and being sent to sensitivity training after his latest innuendo-filled exchange with Moneypenny.
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That's the morning. The afternoon is filled with paperwork about the 30 goons he shot and the millions of dollars of property damage he did yesterday, followed by a psych evaluation to see how he's handling the former.
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