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The rear end is quickly growing on me, but there's something off about it in profile--like the rear is turned up or something such that it doesn't have the classic slope. I don't know, but it's driving me nuts. I think it's because it's longer it looks less sloped and more sleek, dunno if that works with the 911. Good looking car, though, just not 911-ey.
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The rear end is too long. The 911 has always sloped from the roof all the way down the back to the ground (with the exception of a tail here and there). This one's too long. As it curves down, it almost seems to flatten back out before dropping off the back. It's kinda weird.
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Aug 18, 2011 22:41
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The new Jag 2.2 owns. Also I took pictures of it. Jaguar XF 2.2 by AshBurrows, on Flickr Probably the best looking car in its class? Prettier than E90s etc imo.
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Aug 18, 2011 22:42
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Boiled Water posted:They own a copy machine apparently, like Audi has. That's not fair. Audi hasn't made the same copy for 40 years. They added gay LEDs to it.
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Aug 18, 2011 23:15
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Add me to the list of people that thing the new 911 is downright gorgeous. I've wanted one since 1996 when I was 10, and I think when 2017 rolls around I'll finally be able to pick one of these up (used). 
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Aug 18, 2011 23:19
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:The rear end is too long. The 911 has always sloped from the roof all the way down the back to the ground (with the exception of a tail here and there). This one's too long. As it curves down, it almost seems to flatten back out before dropping off the back. It's kinda weird. Yeah, it's too elongated. You can see why they did it, to make more interior room, but it looks off. I also think the front is a bit too delicate. Interior is stunning though.
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Aug 19, 2011 00:24
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Have you guys heard about the new Toyota Ford SUV? It even comes in Silver! Must be a secret new model they're testing during Car Week. Fatal Crash near Laguna Seca [/sarcasm]
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Aug 19, 2011 00:34
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New pictures of the Lexus GS are out. Also, a preview of the F-Sport model: 
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DJ Commie posted:That would be idiotic, why would the more eocnomical engine option get the performance designation? Because whether or not its more economical than the petrol model depends on where you drive it and how much diesel costs compared to petrol. But then again its not going to be any faster either.
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Aug 19, 2011 01:31
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A5H posted:The new Jag 2.2 owns. I quite like this. Ingraman posted:New pictures of the Lexus GS are out. But quite dislike this.
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Aug 19, 2011 02:41
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Ingraman posted:New pictures of the Lexus GS are out. Also, a preview of the F-Sport model: It looks like a Camry hosed an IS300.
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Aug 19, 2011 04:24
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The Z4 gets a new engine. BMW has replaced their NA 3.0l straight six with a 2.0l 4cyl Turbo.  This will obviously replace the NA straight six in all their blockbuster cars (1 series, 3 series, 5 series). I don't know how I feel about the loss of buttery buttery smoothness in exchange for some extra grunt and MPG, but I will reserve judgement for after I drive one. http://www.bmwblog.com/2011/08/19/ultimate-photo-gallery-2012-bmw-z4-sdrive28i/
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Aug 19, 2011 21:47
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I read that it will simulate I6 engine noises with the stereo for all the  PERFECT PRIMARY BALANCE douchebags.http://www.autoweek.com/article/20110218/CARNEWS/110219868
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ynotony posted:The Z4 gets a new engine. BMW has replaced their NA 3.0l straight six with a 2.0l 4cyl Turbo. Turbos are never the wrong answer.
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Aug 19, 2011 23:05
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Throatwarbler posted:I read that it will simulate I6 engine noises with the stereo for all the quote:In everyday driving, the N20 is noticeably more responsive, although its sound is nowhere near as alluring as that of the engine it replaces. BMW says that will be fixed on certain models, including on an updated Z4 sDrive28i, with the addition of an electronic sound generator. Are you loving kidding me
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Aug 19, 2011 23:34
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Does it come with whistle tips as well? (As much as I love a good BMW I6 sound, turbo fours can sound fantastic as well.)
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Aug 19, 2011 23:43
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Throatwarbler posted:I read that it will simulate I6 engine noises with the stereo for all the The stereo? With this amazing technology will I be able to load different soundtracks into my new beemer? Meanwhile, I test drove a 2010 Ford Focus XR5 last weekend and the sales guy told me it had a specially designed exhuast that was pushed hard against the firewall to make sure that the burble could be heard in the cabin.
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Aug 19, 2011 23:57
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Every new BMW will come with a complimentary soundracer.
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A MIRACLE posted:Are you loving kidding me Hahahaha it's the exact opposite of that noise-cancelling technology where inverse engine noise comes out of the speakers and cancels out actual engine noise
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Aug 20, 2011 00:38
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heat posted:Hahahaha it's the exact opposite of that noise-cancelling technology where inverse engine noise comes out of the speakers and cancels out actual engine noise It's actually just playing cards in the spokes, but being a BMW, each one has a wear life of about 10 minutes and costs $450.
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tobu posted:The stereo? With this amazing technology will I be able to load different soundtracks into my new beemer? General rule of thumb, if a salesman tells you anything, he's lying. An exhaust pushed against the firewall would not burble, it would vibrate & transmit heat. Also when the engine rocked it would hammer noisily.
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Aug 20, 2011 10:39
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Cakefool posted:General rule of thumb, if a salesman tells you anything, he's lying. An exhaust pushed against the firewall would not burble, it would vibrate & transmit heat. Also when the engine rocked it would hammer noisily. He also said, "This is definitely affordable." and "This won't hurt a bit."
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The 458 Spyder has leaked early before the it's official unveiling at Frankfurt.   No details other than it's reportedly a packing a folding hardtop. I like it.
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And in further drop-top V8 news, the new SLK55 AMG has been released. As expected, it's packing the new 5.5 V8 sans turbos, packing 415hp. 
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Subaru's version of the "Toyobaru" finally gets an official name: http://www.insideline.com/subaru/brz/2013/2013-subaru-brz-debuts-next-spring.html A rear-wheel drive Subaru is still just crazy to think about. I can't wait to see both of these cars come out. The Scion FR-S concept was unadulterated sex on wheels, but supposedly the final product is going to have more styling cues from the previous Toyota FT-86 concept, which is unfortunate in my opinion. The straight angles all over the most recent FT-86 concept are just so boring compared to the curves on the FR-S concept. An older spy video of the Scion, for comparison: http://www.insideline.com/scion/fr-s/2013/videos/2013_scion_fr-s_ss_51911.html
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MiniFoo posted:Subaru's version of the "Toyobaru" finally gets an official name: That logo looks like something straight out of an 80s Pontiac commercial.
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MiniFoo posted:Subaru's version of the "Toyobaru" finally gets an official name: 
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travisray2004 posted:That logo looks like something straight out of an 80s Pontiac commercial. That's how you it's gonna be sweet like the Pontiac Fiero.
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Aug 24, 2011 05:05
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MiniFoo posted:I don't get it. Plymouth BReeZe.
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Fucknag posted:Plymouth BReeZe. Oh, right. I saw the pic and wondered what my post had to do with old Stratuses. 
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Hyundai has announced Veloster pricing, starting at $17,300. Although I'd like to buy a new small car soon, I'm going to have to wait until that (and the Sonic) comes out. The Veloster could be quite the deal if they've figured out the chassis.
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Faceless Clock posted:Hyundai has announced Veloster pricing, starting at $17,300. I just got a '12 Elantra and if I could have afforded to wait longer before getting a new car I would have probably taken a look at the Veloster at that price point. They look fun.
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I dont get the "point" of the Veloster. Same engine and gas mileage and price as an Elantra, but with less utility? Can it even be that much quicker? I thought it was supposed to have some little turbo motor...
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Faceless Clock posted:Hyundai has announced Veloster pricing, starting at $17,300. I am currently debating between picking up a MS3 or waiting for the Veloster.
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Coasterphreak posted:I am currently debating between picking up a MS3 or waiting for the Veloster. Go for the Mazdaspeed 3. The veloster is looking to be a lot more like the Honda CR-Z. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyEjPtL1UG0&feature=player_embedded The turbo veloster next year should be something on par with the MS3.
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:I dont get the "point" of the Veloster. Same engine and gas mileage and price as an Elantra, but with less utility? Can it even be that much quicker? I thought it was supposed to have some little turbo motor... Handles better and possibly a reworked transmission? There might possibly be a turbo 4 one later.
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Christobevii3 posted:There might possibly be a turbo 4 one later.
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:I dont get the "point" of the Veloster. Same engine and gas mileage and price as an Elantra, but with less utility? Can it even be that much quicker? I thought it was supposed to have some little turbo motor... same point as a VW Scirocco I think.
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:I dont get the "point" of the Veloster. Same engine and gas mileage and price as an Elantra, but with less utility? Can it even be that much quicker? I thought it was supposed to have some little turbo motor... Well obviously, it's meant to be sportier, which means different chassis tuning, bigger wheels and tire stock, and etc. It's a little lighter, as well, and the engine is the same as the Accent's I believe, isn't the Elantra a 1.8? I'm prepared to be disappointed because I've driven one of the new Accents and thought the engine lacked punch or character, and Hyundai is hardly a veteran at in this field. Still, if it is good to drive it'll be a nice choice due to its low price point. I'm fine with 138hp in a 2500-2600 pound car so long as it feels good around the bends and sounds mad about the fact it's only a 1.6.
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