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UselessLurker posted:Didn't V13 actually not exist for a while, strictly speaking? It was originally supposed to be a cell phone game until they scrapped that idea. V13 has excited for quite awhile now, they announced it like 5 years ago alongside then-Agito 13 and FF13 and for a long time we only had a trailer or two. Agito, later "Type-0" was supposed to be a cell phone game.
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Ayana posted:If I remember right, the final boss has a dick move. It's actually resistant to Almighty. I just barely squeaked by on my first time in the original using that exact strategy plus a lot of luck and a few more levels (I was at least in the 60's, I think.) Yeah, he does resist it. I managed to get a sweet dual shadow 8 hit total holy dance on him and he still had over 70% of his life left. 
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FART BOSS posted:Apparently this site appeared today http://p-atlus.jp/ I'm 15 hours into my very first play through of Persona 4, just finished the steamy bathhouse. ...Welp, I guess it's time to put it down for now. I'll miss you, 3D character models (OR WILL I?!)
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Policenaut posted:V13 has excited for quite awhile now, they announced it like 5 years ago alongside then-Agito 13 and FF13 and for a long time we only had a trailer or two. Agito, later "Type-0" was supposed to be a cell phone game. They haven't even started the actual production for VSXIII though, which is what I meant. Considering we've actually seen stuff from that game though means P5's got it even worse.
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So I'm sure this is a dumb question but what exactly ties the "main series" SMT games together? I mean they're not in any kind of real continuity, are they? I've only played Devil Survivor and Strange Journey from the main series and all four Persona games (well, and a brief stint on SMT: Imagine - sooooo much wasted potential). I'm looking to grab Nocturne next if I can figure out a way to safely stash a PS2 Slim, controller and connectors in my carry on bag.
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I'm pretty sure they're intentionally not showing anything until a few months before Japanese release (Catherine was announced around four months before release, I think.) e: Though I guess if anyone is expecting a late 2011 Japanese release then, well. Cheap Diner Coffee fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Aug 25, 2011 |
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Ryoshi posted:So I'm sure this is a dumb question but what exactly ties the "main series" SMT games together? I mean they're not in any kind of real continuity, are they? I've only played Devil Survivor and Strange Journey from the main series and all four Persona games (well, and a brief stint on SMT: Imagine - sooooo much wasted potential).
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Ryoshi posted:So I'm sure this is a dumb question but what exactly ties the "main series" SMT games together? I mean they're not in any kind of real continuity, are they? I've only played Devil Survivor and Strange Journey from the main series and all four Persona games (well, and a brief stint on SMT: Imagine - sooooo much wasted potential). One thing to note though, I'm pretty sure in Japan Persona isn't part of the SMT series.
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Ryoshi posted:I mean they're not in any kind of real continuity, are they? Not really, no. It's really not something you should ever worry about unless the game comes straight and says that the events from one game happened in the same world as the events in another.
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So, after abusing the suspend save feature for around an hour to force the RNG to bend to my will, I beat the game. But....There's no 8th day. (at least for the Atsuro route) which is a bit disappointing to say the least. I hope it's not only one ending that has it and the rest get shafted because that just screams laziness. 
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tooooooo bad posted:Working on Catherine was working on P5. It was a way to establish their technology and figure things out with a less serious project before starting on the real deal. It also gave them a break from the series which was almost certainly for the best. Exactly. It's the same as when Atlus made Maken Shao: Demon Sword in order to test their new 3D graphics engine, then used that engine to make Nocturne and company.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:So, after abusing the suspend save feature for around an hour to force the RNG to bend to my will, I beat the game. But....There's no 8th day. (at least for the Atsuro route) which is a bit disappointing to say the least. I hope it's not only one ending that has it and the rest get shafted because that just screams laziness. Atsuro and Gin's paths don't have an 8th Day, because, you know, they both get rid of all the demons on the 7th Day. The others paths - Yuzu, Amane and Naoya/Kaido are the only ones that lead to Day 8.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:So, after abusing the suspend save feature for around an hour to force the RNG to bend to my will, I beat the game. But....There's no 8th day. (at least for the Atsuro route) which is a bit disappointing to say the least. I hope it's not only one ending that has it and the rest get shafted because that just screams laziness. This post made me look up more about the 8th day and I think it's kind of supposed to be like the Answer in P3 where it doesn't start up after you beat the game, so maybe check the menus and see if you've unlocked the 8th day or something. Edit: Never mind, this is wrong, read the post above me.
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Aug 26, 2011 00:38
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TurnipFritter posted:Atsuro and Gin's paths don't have an 8th Day, because, you know, they both get rid of all the demons on the 7th Day. The others paths - Yuzu, Amane and Naoya/Kaido are the only ones that lead to Day 8. Ah yeah that makes sense. I just assumed it would have plot deviced an 8th day instead. Well that makes me less mad. Into new game + I go!
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Aug 26, 2011 00:39
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Doorselfin posted:I'm 15 hours into my very first play through of Persona 4, just finished the steamy bathhouse. If it does come to Vita, it's definitely powerful enough to run Persona 4 in it's entirety.
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It probably won't have to do the whole static picture thing either, but if it did it'd probably have faster navigation because you could just tap places.
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Doorselfin posted:I'm 15 hours into my very first play through of Persona 4, just finished the steamy bathhouse. No, no, don't do that. Persona 4 is an awesome game. Think about it! Even *IF* the announcement is for a Persona 4 Portable, which is only speculation at this point, it'll still take months for it and the Playstation Vita to be released. And aproximately a year for it to be translated and localized into English. Persona 3 Portable was first announced in August of 2009, released in Japan on November 1, 2009, and in North America on July 6, 2010. So that's like a year wait.
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Ryoshi posted:So I'm sure this is a dumb question but what exactly ties the "main series" SMT games together? I mean they're not in any kind of real continuity, are they? I've only played Devil Survivor and Strange Journey from the main series and all four Persona games (well, and a brief stint on SMT: Imagine - sooooo much wasted potential). Shin Megami Tensei I and II are directly related, and there's a tie between I&II and Nocturne through one of the characters. The Persona games all take place in the same universe. P3 and P4 are shown to be in the same continuity, and P3 is linked to P1 as one of the major groups in P3 (Kirijo Group) is a split off of a business group/one of the main character's families from P1 (Nanjo Group). All things considered, if this is a P4 remake they're doing? I'm kinda "eh" on the idea of there being a female protagonist. While it would make the most sense in order to make the game have replayability, there was actual story precedent for a "female protagonist" route in P3.
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Nathander posted:All things considered, if this is a P4 remake they're doing? I'm kinda "eh" on the idea of there being a female protagonist. While it would make the most sense in order to make the game have replayability, there was actual story precedent for a "female protagonist" route in P3. There was? 
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Xythar posted:There was? Remember the car crash that kills the main protagonists family? His family was mother, father, and twin sister. In the original, he's the one that lives. In P3P route, he's the one that dies and it's his twin sister you play as.
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Nathander posted:Remember the car crash that kills the main protagonists family? His family was mother, father, and twin sister. In the original, he's the one that lives. In P3P route, he's the one that dies and it's his twin sister you play as.  I never caught on to that, that's pretty clever. That being said, I really don't think that makes any difference as to the viability of a Female Protagonist in a P4 remake.
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Eh. I'm not saying I'd be offended, I'm just saying that it makes sense since either way whichever twin survived would be the one who'd become Death's host for the next few years, which adds some significance to it in that the other had at least been mentioned. Adding a female protagonist to P4 just seems even more extraneous than it would in P3, is what I guess I'm saying, since nothing in the story would have ever called for it.
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Catalina posted:No, no, don't do that. Persona 4 is an awesome game. But then there'll be less incentive for me to pick it up right away... I'm not even considering a 3DS and Devil Survivor Overclocked at the moment. Maybe I'll wait for more details to emerge to see how different it will be before continuing to invest 90 hours of my life on Persona 4 right off the back of Catherine and P3P :3
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Just play the game already  I bought Persona 3 three times and probably spent well over 200 hours on all versions combined and it was still worth it.
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Nathander posted:Remember the car crash that kills the main protagonists family? His family was mother, father, and twin sister. In the original, he's the one that lives. In P3P route, he's the one that dies and it's his twin sister you play as. Wait, was this ever confirmed? I always thought it was just fans being fans.
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I played through P3 a good half a dozen times easily and I don't remember the having a twin sister who died thing at all. I even just checked a script of it on GameFAQs and there's no mention of it there either. It's almost definitely just fans being fans.
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Schlegel Mach posted:Wait, was this ever confirmed? I always thought it was just fans being fans. I always thought it's what we're supposed to take out of it, considering they do confirm the that there is a sibling, and that it is a twin in the original game. That being said, I can't confirm it with absolute certainty, but it's what makes the most sense.
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Nathander posted:The Persona games all take place in the same universe. P3 and P4 are shown to be in the same continuity, and P3 is linked to P1 as one of the major groups in P3 (Kirijo Group) is a split off of a business group/one of the main character's families from P1 (Nanjo Group). Small detail, but if... is also part of the continuity, at least Persona 1+2.
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Doorselfin posted:But then there'll be less incentive for me to pick it up right away... I'm not even considering a 3DS and Devil Survivor Overclocked at the moment. Ah, but see, that works in your favor! You can wait for the inevitable price drops! Seriously, though, I could see how you'd be a bit wary after playing P3P and Catherine. hahaha. I finished the Good End of P4 myself in a 110 hour playthrough, and got up to the fall trip in P3 FES and just completely burned out. Schlegel Mach posted:Wait, was this ever confirmed? I always thought it was just fans being fans. I'm curious about this as well. Also, I recall reading some notes with some sketches and notes of Persona 3 concept art that said a female protagonist had been considered in the early stages of planning Persona 3, but had been scrapped because of time constraints. But I can't find exactly where I read that, so take my memory with a grain of salt.
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Endorph posted:The Persona series is implied to all take place in the same universe, and it's outright shown that P4 and P3 do. Also the main antagonist of Catherine bought Tartarus for cheap after the dudes in Persona 3 were done with it.
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Can someone please spoiler Day 8 for Devil Survivor DS. I'm debating whether I should just buy a cheap copy of the original or wait. I beat DS before but sold my copy to a goon for money I needed and am getting the urge to play it again. I don't have a 3ds yet but I was expecting more extra stuff from this game to warrant purchasing it but subpar voice acting (that can be disabled thankfully) and what looks like a tacked on extra day just aren't doing it for me. How many extra demons are there?
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I'm really interested in what the 8th day is like, too. I mean I'll probably buy Overclock anyway but it'll be better if I set myself up for disappointment.
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Dolphin Fetus posted:How many extra demons are there? I heard 20 new demons, but I can't confirm that at the moment.
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Nathander posted:Adding a female protagonist to P4 just seems even more extraneous than it would in P3, is what I guess I'm saying, since nothing in the story would have ever called for it. I mean, his family isn't mentioned at all besides one crack from Dojima at the end and an earlier comment by Chie, and none of it mentions siblings; it could be that they decided to take one kid with them and one kid was sent to live with Dojima.
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Dolphin Fetus posted:Can someone please spoiler Day 8 for Devil Survivor DS. I'm debating whether I should just buy a cheap copy of the original or wait. I beat DS before but sold my copy to a goon for money I needed and am getting the urge to play it again. I don't have a 3ds yet but I was expecting more extra stuff from this game to warrant purchasing it but subpar voice acting (that can be disabled thankfully) and what looks like a tacked on extra day just aren't doing it for me. Like twenty. Take it from someone who now owns a copy of the original and Overclocked, if you've played and beaten the original, you'll get just as much from replaying the DS version as you will from this. One thing that hasn't been mentioned much that I just saw, the "3D fusion screen" that was added? I'm pretty sure it's the same one from the DS version, but with the two spinning cards given the 3D effect. I feel like they could've at least given us a 3D model of the summoned demon or something.
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Cityinthesea posted:I mean, his family isn't mentioned at all besides one crack from Dojima at the end and an earlier comment by Chie, and none of it mentions siblings; it could be that they decided to take one kid with them and one kid was sent to live with Dojima. In Nanako's social link, she'll ask you if you have a sister, and if you reply that you do, she'll ask if it's a little sister. I have a younger sister, so I answered yes to both. Her sad face and voice will haunt me until the end of my days.
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fount of knowledge posted:Like twenty. Ahh, so that's why I haven't seen any yet. Jesus, they could have at least put in 50 new demons.
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Overclocked so far is staggeringly unimpressive as a port. Way sub-FES. I'll see how the 8th day is but I'm not excited.
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Justice you weren't perhaps planning on being as crazy charitable as always and hosting an Innocent Sin contest like you did for P3P?
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