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willie_dee posted:4) If my shove hadn't of worked of he had somehow grabbed me I have no idea what I would of done, I literally wasn't thinking. I like to think my dirty boxing would of come out, but at that close range I don't think I have the power or accuracy to knock someone out, in which case I hope I would of gone for a clinch All in all I'm wholly agreeing with everyone else that you handled the situation splendidly. The whole shaking and feeling sick, that's just adrenaline. When you go into fight or flight mode the adrenal response causes more blood flow to your muscles and less to your digestive organs. It's a normal thing to feel that way. All you can really do is try to keep yourself as relaxed as possible and flow with the situation. You don't have to be "cool" or "badass" in how you handle things, there's no need to knock people out or mount them and beat their face in if you don't have to, and if you're a normal person you don't really want to. I was at a bar with a female friend once and this dude with them was OBLITERATED drunk and kept trying to finger blast my friend through her jeans.(he worked his way up to it, repeatedly grabbing her inner thigh then escalating, etc etc). I handled the situation very poorly when I reached over, crushed his hand in mine and glared him in the eye and said "Keep your loving hands off of her!" He walked over to me, pushed me a bit(I was still sitting down), then he grabbed a glass ketchup bottle to smash it over my head. I froze. I had no idea what to do and I knew people were expecting me to do something. So, I grabbed the bottle and held it close to my navel, using leverage in that way to keep it in my control. He yanked a few times and spewed a couple "YOU WANNA GO?!" in my face, to which I replied "You don't wanna get physical with me dude. Bad idea." But I had started it, you see. He backed down when someone got between us and I left, shaky and feeling ashamed. The whole thing could've been avoided if I had just switched seats with her the first time he touched her thigh. e:I thought it was pretty funny too.\/ Omglosser fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Aug 30, 2011 |
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Thanks guys, you made me feel better about itPaul Pot posted:nigga u soft This made me laugh and was followed up with some genuine advice, so I think "useless post" is a bit harsh which ever mod did this? It got a chuckle out of me anyways so if the probation was in any way on my account, can you show some leniency?
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He just forgot that we aren't in SASMMA and the mods don't get these kind of jokes.
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Came back from a cold too soon and went into sparring without enough energy. Got leg-kick TKOed in the deep rounds. Only took a few light kicks and 2 good ones to the same spot and I was down.
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gently caress yeah judo rocks, really nice last class at the new club.
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Wow that news paper article is hilarious  Two broken arms? drat, they should have taken a chapter from willie's book. e: By the way, cool story willie. Nothing to be ashamed of at all. You diffused the situation without anyone getting hurt. Thats the point of martial arts in many ways. quote:The best defense is to look up, defend your neck and don't let him get that deep in the first place. For future reference should I put my noob newaza questions in the grappling thread? You all sick of me yet? Nierbo fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Aug 31, 2011 |
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KingColliwog posted:gently caress yeah judo rocks, really nice last class at the new club. This story is fake, racist (Tyrone Jackson, really?), and the fact that it's applauded is disgusting.
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willie_dee posted:fightin Ligur posted:one legged squats
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quote:7 Time World Champion Andre Galvao is the subject of this episode of Rolled Up. Includes: http://www.budovideos.com/online/shows/rolledup/rolled-up-epsiode-26-jiu-jitsu-missionary-andre-galvao/ A bit slow but a really cool episode for those who like Galvao. Goes for 50 minutes.
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niethan posted:This story is fake, racist (Tyrone Jackson, really?), and the fact that it's applauded is disgusting. I was thinking that it was probably fake since it's just too ridiculous. I can't speak for others, but I personally found it very funny, but I'm not applauding it. A guy having every bone in his body broken after having an altercation with 3 guys and it's because "he fell". You're probably seeing the humor there? Anyway how is it racist? Is Tyrone Jackson a black guy name, I'm in Quebec so I don't know what a "black guy name" is in the US. Here blacks tend to have either normal or very african sounding name.
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KingColliwog posted:I was thinking that it was probably fake since it's just too ridiculous. I can't speak for others, but I personally found it very funny, but I'm not applauding it. A guy having every bone in his body broken after having an altercation with 3 guys and it's because "he fell". You're probably seeing the humor there? Anyway how is it racist? Is Tyrone Jackson a black guy name, I'm in Quebec so I don't know what a "black guy name" is in the US. Here blacks tend to have either normal or very african sounding name. Yes, 9 times out of 10 someone named Tyrone Jackson will be black, and the fact that whoever made up that fake article named the thief Tyrone Jackson makes it racist.
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somethingsensitive.com: the internet makes me cry
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i'm glad i live in canada so my racist articles concern francois pascal being beaten up by the RCMP
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willie_dee posted:Yea, but a bit of me is worried that if he had come at me again, would I have still not wanted to have punched him. I don't feel I was making concious decisions at all, it all just sort of happened, and then afterwards I'm thinking, why did I do that like that, why did I shout like that etc etc? The trick is that it wasn't a fight, it was just posturing. If it actually turned into a slugging match or it went to the ground you would have reacted differently, but as it wasn't any real "fight" action going on.
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niethan posted:This story is fake, racist (Tyrone Jackson, really?), and the fact that it's applauded is disgusting. 
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I'm back, can train full contact Muay Thai, Can do some bjj, (just guard work). Still doing neck rehab 1-2 times a week wish a specialist physio, but feeling good, don't get pins and needles any more.
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willie_dee posted:but I have no idea what I would actually have done had something different happened, I was not thinking and it was all happening so fast. Hands are shaking afterwards from adrenaline, fight is over so quickly sometimes the second kick actually takes place afterwards. You did the right thing de-escalating. From a moral and legal stand point the warnings were fantastic because you have a lot of witnesses who would say that you were trying your hardest not to fight. Once he came forward, you should have put him on the ground, shoving him worked just as well. People don't tend to keep fighting after they end up on the ground. Closed or long distance, don't throw closed hand punches to the top of the head. Open palm, elbow or hammer fists. Knees are good too. As my street boxing instructor said, after your first two punches, the adrenaline in a street scenario means you can't find soft targets reliably, so passed the first two strikes, open the hands.
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Man, that's awesome to hear. I thought you'd never be able to train again. Ease in gently though, y'hear?
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Adolfo Castro posted:I'm back, can train full contact Muay Thai,
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Adolfo Castro posted:Closed or long distance, don't throw closed hand punches to the top of the head. Open palm, elbow or hammer fists. Knees are good too. As my street boxing instructor said, after your first two punches, the adrenaline in a street scenario means you can't find soft targets reliably, so passed the first two strikes, open the hands. What is an open palm strike? Sounds a bit overly complicated. I have a feeling if I ever have to start throwing ill be concentrating on ducking, weaving and keeping my hands up defence too much to think about the specifics of my punching their face.
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willie_dee posted:What is an open palm strike? Bitchslap, as demonstrated here. The calming and de-escalating powers of a bitchslap are well known. If you throw two or three like left-right-left fast enough you can even rattle someone's brain into a concussed state. You don't want to break your hands on your enemy but throwing at his head or hers, if you a are a wifebeater, like you would on a heavy bag with wrapped hands and 16 oz gloves will break your hand. I use a closed fist, but then again have had a of lot of practice striking with very lightly padded 4oz grappling gloves (no wraps) which entails certain "sensitivity". An accurate bareknuckle punch still smarts like hell even when not thrown at bone-smashing force, but it really takes practice and has to be pinpoint accurate and timed perfectly if you wish to KO or drop your guy. And ice-water in the veins to maintain control, when your opponent is probably throwing as hard as he can (and both are drunk). Of course, you can then block his punches with your forehead and break his hand that way, but the mouse and swelling you get from that looks stupid next morning. I can't believe we're even discussing the subject... (The person who takes my post entirely seriously is a dork, but you never know) Ligur fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Sep 1, 2011 |
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Adolfo Castro posted:I'm back, can train full contact Muay Thai, Awesome man, looked like you were up poo poo creek. Still missing muscle in your arm?
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I really enjoy that video for the polite "roll him over so he doesn't choke on his tongue" at the end.
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willie_dee posted:What is an open palm strike? Sounds a bit overly complicated. I have a feeling if I ever have to start throwing ill be concentrating on ducking, weaving and keeping my hands up defence too much to think about the specifics of my punching their face.   In all seriousness though you handled the situation about as well as possible. I wouldn't worry too much about 'killer instincts' and stuff because that sort of poo poo tends to get people in a lot of trouble, and the shaking afterwards was, as has been mentioned repeatedly, more the after effects of a sudden rush of adrenaline than anything you can control short of getting into (and winning) so many fights that you don't even perceive other people as a threat anymore. My dad used to be a cop and has related a number of stories to me about times he's had to restrain and arrest people getting violent and most of them go basically the way you described - there's a lot of poo poo running through your head that you could do but things happen so fast that by the time you're done thinking about it the situation has changed and you just end up shoving the guy because it's more instinctual and ingrained than your combat training. And then afterwards you're shaking because adrenaline is a bitch. Mercifully I've never been in a fight myself and hope it never happens because I'd probably just freeze up and get rocked
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Interesting times. Working as a bouncer you could sort of expect a few fights but as an nurse intern? Not so much. I had to grapple with a sixty-year old schizophrenic who decided to wash down his meds with hand sanitizer. I ended up taking double underhooks and pinning him into the nearest wall while screaming for the other nurses. I also started training Judo, mostly because it's the only gym in town, but also because they're not bad at all. I keep getting thrown 
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Illegal Username posted:Interesting times. You'll realize that grappling has finally sunk in when you hug other people. It's double underhooks every hug, or an over/under at worst.
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willie_dee posted:What is an open palm strike? Sounds a bit overly complicated. I have a feeling if I ever have to start throwing ill be concentrating on ducking, weaving and keeping my hands up defence too much to think about the specifics of my punching their face. If you're in control of the situation, go for body shots. Less chance of you breaking your hands. The skull can be harder than you think.
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We have a new instructor from South-America with about 30 years of instructing behind him. First thing the guy does is learn enough of the local language in less than six months to make do (ok everyone speaks English anyway so he doesn't have to, he just wants to) and second thing, he teaches us like a motherfucker. You can hear exp-points (or some nerdy equivalent) cashing in after every drill. I particularly like the method of combining warmup and practical exercise, and he makes a point of training against a resisting, evading, dodging and blocking (and often counter-attacking) target in every single drill even the most simple ones for a beginner. I like that. A lot.
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People! Remember to use your mouth guards. I just witnessed how a 4th degree BJJ Black Belt lost his front tooth in friendly sparring match against a beginner white belt. BB didn't use his mouth guard as he thought that the sparring was going to be really soft and friendly. It was, but accidents happen. Mouth guards! Use those things!
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The real lesson there is that white belts are the most dangerous people on the mat, bar none.
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Thoguh posted:The real lesson there is that white belts are the most dangerous people on the mat, bar none. Yeah, I just had one go from "looks like he has an ankle lock to "is that a cracking sound I hear?" in about a quarter of a second. And then keep on choking me for about 5-10 seconds after I had started tapping.
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Thoguh posted:The real lesson there is that white belts are the most dangerous people on the mat, bar none. They certainly are, their specialty is throwing you but still holding you up at the same time (because they don't want to hurt you) so you can't do your breakfall properly and you slam your legs in such a way that either your lower back, your hips, your knees or your feet take most of the impact! Thank you for trying, but next time just throw me. 2 weeks off of judo until my real dojo opens back up. It's good since that will leave some time for my shoulder and back to rest, going back to weightlifting though after a week of time off because of said shoulder and back. It's not back 100% how it used to be, but I think massaging it, using it and then stretching it will help. KingColliwog fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Sep 2, 2011 |
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It sounds to me that complacency is the problem. Not someone being inexperienced. Perhaps I am just being cynical.
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Senor P. posted:It sounds to me that complacency is the problem. Not someone being inexperienced. Perhaps I am just being cynical. it is complacency. This is how you should treat whitebelts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PChWWkRS0MQ they should all be destroyed.
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Technically we're all Joe Son Do white belts.
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Not true: I happen to be a serial rapist.
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I also have a black belt in Zumba.
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Xguard86 posted:it is complacency. This is how you should treat whitebelts: Yea, I'm kind of coming to this realization. A lot of my rolls with white belts start with me rolling slow and letting them work there game followed up by them hitting/kicking/whatevering me a few times at which point I end up running them over anyway. I think going forward I'm just going to run over white belts until they prove they aren't a spaz.
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Watching Joe Louis' technique is so rewarding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DteKctJFIVE
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