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Egbert Souse posted:Theatrical prints are generally bad sources for HD. Contrast isn't great and none of the original '77 film prints are usable at this point. I've personally shown 30 year old prints that looked gorgeous, all things considered.
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Is there anyone out there defending all of these changes? I haven't ventured into the comments on youtube or any of the sites where the clips are posted yet, but I'm curious to see whether any superfans are clamouring to justify all of this horrible poo poo just because it's Star Wars. At the same time I'm terrified to look because just reading imdb forums makes want to pull my own teeth out. The most frustrating thing about all this is seeing other directors doing it right. Ridley Scott released his "definitive" version of Blade Runner in a box set with every single other version, even a loving work print. Coppola was nice enough to remaster and package the original Apocalypse Now with the Redux for those of us who prefer it. George is apparently so bitter at Star Wars that he will do anything he can to make it all his. I honestly wish he'd remake episodes 4-6 more than ever now. Proper sequels to the prequels that are just as godawful and full of cgi and terrible dialogue and incomprehensible plots and actually fit together as a saga. Then he can have "his" Star Wars and those of us who enjoy 3 fun films from the 70's/80's can have ours. I'm happy just watching the 4:3 special feature versions at this point.
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It's kinda irrelevant, because there are interpositives & separation masters in the Lucasfilm vault, as well as the original pieces of negatives that were cut out to make the 1997 SE, and later rescanned to make the 2004 SE. But when it comes to Theatrical prints, there are a small number of Technicolor dye prints out there that don't deteriorate rapidly like regular film. One is in George Lucas's basement and was used to accurately colour time the film for the 1997 SE release (before George said 'gently caress it' and did what he liked with the 2004 release). Some are in the hands of private collectors. And one of which was screened theatrically last year. 
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Hey, uh, doesn't all of this boil down to Lucas' divorce and his wife being owed half of all money made on Star Wars but not on SE versions?
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Steve Yun posted:Hey, uh, doesn't all of this boil down to Lucas' divorce and his wife being owed half of all money made on Star Wars but not on SE versions? No. That's a stupid loving internet rumour that makes no sense.
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frumpsnake posted:It's kinda irrelevant, because there are interpositives & separation masters in the Lucasfilm vault, as well as the original pieces of negatives that were cut out to make the 1997 SE, and later rescanned to make the 2004 SE. Is that the one where Lucasfilm was like "Hey buddy, that's our property" and took it back?
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feedmyleg posted:Is that the one where Lucasfilm was like "Hey buddy, that's our property" and took it back? According to this writeup of the screening, no. That happened in 2006 (and probably not a Technicolor IB print)
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As utterly loving fascinating as it is to read you guys sperging out about Star Wars for five pages (it's not interesting oh my god shut the gently caress up and move on with your lives), here's something else!PeePot posted:They updated it with the cover! It looks like something my mom would buy, and I'm pretty sure she wouldn't appreciate Malick. edit: nevermind looks like it's just a horrible poster/placeholder. Hey, a pleasant surprise, no floating heads and poo poo: 
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Criminal Minded posted:As utterly loving fascinating as it is to read you guys sperging out about Star Wars for five pages (it's not interesting oh my god shut the gently caress up and move on with your lives), here's something else!
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Criminal Minded posted:As utterly loving fascinating as it is to read you guys sperging out about Star Wars for five pages (it's not interesting oh my god shut the gently caress up and move on with your lives), here's something else! A collage of random screenshots? Nice.
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Dissapointed Owl posted:A collage of random screenshots? Nice. Its the same as the poster, so quit hatin.
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Fayez Butts posted:Its the same as the poster, so quit hatin. Yeah, was gonna say: 
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frumpsnake posted:No. That's a stupid loving internet rumour that makes no sense. Welp, I was hoping there was some reason other than "Lucas is nuts" but oh well.
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Criminal Minded posted:As utterly loving fascinating as it is to read you guys sperging out about Star Wars for five pages (it's not interesting oh my god shut the gently caress up and move on with your lives), here's something else! Also something I didn't see noted in here: The only way to get the DVD for Tree of Life is to buy the blu-ray combo pack. They are not releasing it on standalone DVD.
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^^^^ It should be seen in hi-def anyway ^^^^Fayez Butts posted:Its the same as the poster, so quit hatin. Criminal Minded posted:Yeah, was gonna say: Posters can still be crap though (although in this case it's clearly debatable) but I'd rather they'd used  any of  the following  posters 
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GonSmithe posted:Also something I didn't see noted in here: The only way to get the DVD for Tree of Life is to buy the blu-ray combo pack. They are not releasing it on standalone DVD.
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Criminal Minded posted:As utterly loving fascinating as it is to read you guys sperging out about Star Wars for five pages (it's not interesting oh my god shut the gently caress up and move on with your lives), here's something else! Hey great thanks for the image and the rear end in a top hat comment. Yeah I'll be picking up that blu ray when it comes out, now kindly be quiet and let the thread be what it will be right now.
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George makes Yoda CG in every movie, calling it now.
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Cubemario posted:George makes Yoda CG in every movie, calling it now.
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WATCH LUCAS CGI A MUPPET!
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Disney is releasing The Rocketeer on December 13th.  Blu-Ray.com
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Egbert Souse posted:Disney is releasing The Rocketeer on December 13th. YES!!! All I need now is Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
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Egbert Souse posted:Disney is releasing The Rocketeer on December 13th. Holy poo poo! My childhood in clear pristine HD.
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Nevermind!
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Egbert Souse posted:Disney is releasing The Rocketeer on December 13th.  YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSI can finally get rid of that drat letterboxed 4:3 DVD!
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Well... look what Levar Burton posted on Twitter just now:levarburton posted:Stopped by to see how the TNG conversion to HD for Blue Ray was coming along... #mindblown #bydhttmwfi http://moby.to/6nxp3k
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Schpyder posted:letterboxed 4:3 Well now there's a riddle.
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akadajet posted:Well... look what Levar Burton posted on Twitter just now: Wow, it always seemed like it wasn't really going to happen. Awesome.
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Egbert Souse posted:Disney is releasing The Rocketeer on December 13th. Oh God gently caress Yes. I knew Disney wouldn't let this year pass without releasing it. The film's 20th Anniversary, plus the fact that they can put "JOE JOHNSON (director of CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER) on the box.
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akadajet posted:Well... look what Levar Burton posted on Twitter just now:
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akadajet posted:Well... look what Levar Burto
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Posters can still be crap though (although in this case it's clearly debatable) but I'd rather they'd used 
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Criminal Minded posted:Well now there's a riddle. It's exactly what it sounds like. They have the full 2.35:1 frame... hard letterboxed and encoded at 4:3 on the DVD. Yes, the black bars are actually encoded in the signal. Not anamorphic. It's seriously one of the worst mastering jobs I've ever seen in my life, and not just because of that, either. Have a direct screen grab: 
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Schpyder posted:It's exactly what it sounds like. They have the full 2.35:1 frame... hard letterboxed and encoded at 4:3 on the DVD. Yes, the black bars are actually encoded in the signal. Not anamorphic. It's seriously one of the worst mastering jobs I've ever seen in my life, and not just because of that, either. Have a direct screen grab: That's just called letterbox though. 4:3 would imply the image was pan and scanned. Both sucks horribly, but aren't nearly as bad as a 4:3 image with black bars smacked on top of the image to sell it as widescreen. I have a vhs of Night of the Living Dead (1990) that does this.
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I think they did that for the first Doors release on DVD. I was always puzzled why the screen looked so loving tiny on my RPTV (was a cool tv at the time...).
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They must have been mastered extremely early in the DVD days, as it wasn't more than a couple years in that almost all of them were anamorphic.
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Criminal Minded posted:Oh, yay... I'll be able to watch the Tree of Life the way God intended: On my phone!
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zenintrude posted:Oh, yay... I'll be able to watch the Tree of Life the way God intended: I...I watched 2001 on the 3 inch screen on my mp3 player. It was a shameful moment. Also Tree of Life has a Region 2 DVD only release, if you're some madman who wants a Region 2 DVD copy of it.
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japtor posted:Sure about that one? It's a joke. I figured the fact that all the names and words were replaced by "Oscar" would give it away.
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VCI is releasing Rene Cardona's Santa Claus on Nov. 15. It'll have both the original Mexican release version and dubbed American cut. Also will have a commentary by Daniel Griffith, a making-of documentary, stills gallery, bonus shorts and trailers. The film itself is restored from the original negative and in widescreen. This made up one of the funniest MST3K episodes, but it is a fun movie on its own. Egbert Souse fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Sep 2, 2011 |
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