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Hypothetical one for you guys .....might we be better selling gradel now ... banking £3m... using the money to say to man city we want Bridge; Onouaha; SWP, Santa cruz on loan for a season... we will give you £100k per week for 9 months - Cost £4m with a bonus to city of say £2m if we go up. .... We can offload 3 / 4 players saving £1m. With that squad we should at least hit the play offs - full house at elland road worth £1m ... increased revenue from gate receipts at least a £1m. Net cost nil or even positive given we are going to lose max for nothing anyhow. Could have negative effect on squad - but that could be negated by fact we are filling squad with quality that might allow us to achieve premiership & as a result their wages will catapult with promotion. City have 4 of their players in the shop window & they might be tempted to drop down a division if all 4 went at the same time. Break clause on one player each in January - City to sell ... us to offload a bad egg. Its not even really financial poo poo of bust.. but given each year this division is going to get harder with more team on parachute payment in excess of leeds gate receipts ... maybe we really should be gambling this year.
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SteadfastMeat posted:Hypothetical one for you guys .....might we be better selling gradel now ... banking £3m... using the money to say to man city we want Bridge; Onouaha; SWP, Santa cruz on loan for a season... we will give you £100k per week for 9 months - Cost £4m with a bonus to city of say £2m if we go up. .... We can offload 3 / 4 players saving £1m. With that squad we should at least hit the play offs - full house at elland road worth £1m ... increased revenue from gate receipts at least a £1m. Net cost nil or even positive given we are going to lose max for nothing anyhow. This sounds...so reasonable that obviously it could never happen.
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Dave Woodgate Says: August 28th, 2011 at 7:25 pm Typical rubbishanel losing just like the previous two weeks. We may have been beaten by manchester today but we didnt have our first team out. No wonder fabregas wanted to leave rubbishnel if that is how they play i bet other players will want to leave soon like walcot and vanpersie and nastri. were already ahead of you this season and well beat you in the league at least 3 times and will finish ahead of rubbishanl. COYS
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The name has loving "arse" in it and that's what he chooses to replace. Astounding.
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I like the way he says it three times yet spells it differently each time, as if he's yet to settle on a name for his masterpiece.
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http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/Ridsdale-earned-right-club/story-13223588-detail/story.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter this article. the comments. all of it. im loving mad
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Iggy Pop Barker posted:http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/Ridsdale-earned-right-club/story-13223588-detail/story.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter ciderman29 posted:As I stated in my initial comment on this story, there would be those all to willing to put a negative spin on it. It's also good to know that there are people who know what Peter Ridsdale is getting out of this financially. They must have been reading stories that I missed when on holiday. I'm just tickled by the fact there's at least 28 other Cidermen.
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Last night known fascist Paolo Di Canio got a bit physical with new striker Leon Clarke, trying to drag him down the tunnel and then when he thought he was away from the public gaze he first punched Leon, then after a brief scuffle the two were separated and the player first returned to the pitch and then drove home in his kit as it was thought best that he didn't go back in the dressing room. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh_oEJX9BHE How did Swindon fans react? Swindon posted:See matchday thread buddy. And have to disagree, Paulo must stay, at least a few more games are required before we can measure his managerial worth. I still believe! Swindon posted:If I was the STFC fittness coach and he was moaning at me, I'd have had a pop at the lazy oval office during the walk off the pitch at the end as well. A big chunk of humble pie will be on his breakfast menu tomorrow. If he wants to continue playing for Di Canio in SN1 he'll do well to drop the loving attitude, shut the gently caress up and start working his nuts off for the cause. Swindon posted:Thinking about it, maybe Di Canio is now flexing his muscles as a manager and is sending out a clear message to the squad that he will be ruthless with anyone who isn't up to scratch and that he isn't afraid to humiliate inferior/lazy players and his detractors? Swindon posted:This re-inforces his opinion and the fact that he wont tolerate crap from his players Swindon posted:I see the Witch hunt begins from the Anti Di Canio brigade Swindon posted:Clarke was very out of order and should be fined hugely or shown the door, no excuses from him, PdC should just say a public apology for causing a smal amount of humiliation to the club, yes it is small
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quote:Whilst we did some big deals there was also some smaller perhaps very important deals going on today as well. For more read here;
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quote:As always the Sunday papers make interesting reading. Two particular articles caught my eye.
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@Nanas08 Samir Nasri Official I want a wish happy birthday to the best father in the world happy birthday daddy DanielCross11 Daniel Cross @ @Nanas08 what was his present? Money, we all know you have enough of that #monetgrabbingtwat 4 hours ago apensiveman Graeme Campbell @ @Nanas08 Gay as gently caress, m8. 4 hours ago » APMUFC Alex Purvis @ @Nanas08 when are you going to grow a set?! ?! #gayasfuckNasri etcetc
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Kristian Walsh posted:I’ve likened his playing style before to watching the Minotaur perform Swan Lake, floating with grace before driving with pugnacity, tenacity, skill and strength; not so. Unlike the Minotaur, Suarez would have weaved through the Labyrinth in his trademark style, slain Theseus and become King of Athens. When you Combine this with the comparison of Carroll to an elegant centaur, we're going to have quite a collection of graceful mythical creatures in the side.
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Strawman posted:When you Combine this with the comparison of Carroll to an elegant centaur, we're going to have quite a collection of graceful mythical creatures in the side. kristian walsh is really annoying and clearly thinks of himself as an intellectual and most of his writing is nauseating plus he's got a fuckin weird head
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Chuggo posted:kristian walsh is really annoying and clearly thinks of himself as an intellectual and most of his writing is nauseating FLJ...
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Neil6017 posted:So the scouse loving super nerds think that Billy beanne & his money ball rubbish is a good idea. Its so good , look at Oakland ! You boys have been reading that soccernomics crap to much. The Frenchmen did not last long at spurs, if he had stayed the would have gone down. As soon as he left & they got a real manager they got rid of his rubbish player & shot up the league. Football is played on grass not paper & by men not uni math specky geeks.
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The Collector posted:"uni math specky geeks" have no place in sports? this is entirely correct
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all I know is comolli signed BAE, Dawson,Berbatov, Bale, Modric aka Spurs' best players. and harry signed who:niko krancar, wilson palacios and peter crouch? triffic. The only mistake comolli ever made was hiring ramos, and even then he signed most of the players that pulled them out of the relegation zone. Good old fashioned MAN Harry Redknapp has only managed to relegate and bankrupt his two previous clubs. But sure, whatever, football needs more redknapps and less comollis.
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SteadfastMeat posted:this is entirely correct uni math speccy geeks just need more time. look at arsene wenger
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The Collector posted:all I know is comolli signed BAE, Dawson,Berbatov, Bale, Modric aka Spurs' best players. and harry signed who:niko krancar, wilson palacios and peter crouch? does comolli use 'moneyball'/'soccernomics' style methods? or is he just good at identifying talented footballers? apart from the one sentence you're focusing on, which is bollocks, the attack on 'soccernomics' poo poo is entirely correct
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Iggy Pop Barker posted:does comolli use 'moneyball'/'soccernomics' style methods? or is he just good at identifying talented footballers? apart from the one sentence you're focusing on, which is bollocks, the attack on 'soccernomics' poo poo is entirely correct Comolli uses moneyball/soccernomics methods along with traditional player scouting tools However, I have to admit that I don't quite understand your argument. Are you saying that even though comolli attributes much of his success in identifying players to his use of statistical analysis and uses statistical analysis extensively that he only succeeds in identifying talented players in spite of his soccernomics approach and that his use of "soccernomics poo poo" doesn't actually help him in anyway? Damien Comolli posted:"When you find yourself handling three of the biggest transfers in English football history in the last days of the market, precise figures allow you not to do that blind, It's not about stats vs conventional knowledge, it's about mixing stats and conventional knowledge, which is something comolli seems to be doing well. The mistake that all the anti-stats bashers make, is that they look at Oakland's dropoff as an indictment of Moneyball, when in fact it was/is a validation. Oakland stopped outperforming when the big money teams started using their methods as well. Now I think that people get carried away with the use of stats in all sports nowadays, and try to use them as some sort of magic wand that will take all of the guesswork out of player signings and development, but to just dismiss their usefulness is, IMO, short sighted and foolish.
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BunnyX posted:You're meant to copy bad things not posts that are completely correct You're wrong. The key phrase in the excerpt was "real manager." Don't be daft. You're highly underestimating the effect a manager has on the team.
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The Collector posted:The mistake that all the anti-stats bashers make, is that they look at Oakland's dropoff as an indictment of Moneyball, when in fact it was/is a validation. Oakland stopped outperforming when the big money teams started using their methods as well. I don't even know who Oakland are. Stats aren't useful in football to even the standard of most US sports let alone one like baseball where you can explain basically the whole sport through them. Any individual stat from goals scored right down to pass completion, ground covered, zonal coverage etc etc etc - any stat - is partially related to the specific team they're playing in. If Arsenal change half their team in the off-season, we've no idea whether any of Robin van Persie's stats stay constant. A striker scoring a goal every two games for Arsenal doesn't mean he'll score at a similar clip for Liverpool. A team could add a full 10% to their pass completion and create far less chances. A team of players that stand out in OPTA bullshit as Covering The Most Ground could be doing so because they're poo poo and always chasing the game, getting no possession. None of them mean anything unless you watch the games they come from, in which case you don't need to know whether they've 47 or 48% cross completion Even the advanced stats that quality football teams have access to are of very dubious value - Peter Schmeichel famously topped all the ground covered charts for goalkeepers by miles by spending one game jogging around his penalty box when the ball was up the other end, just to make a point to his coaching staff who he felt put too much faith in them.
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Iggy Pop Barker posted:I don't even know who Oakland are. Stats aren't useful in football to even the standard of most US sports let alone one like baseball where you can explain basically the whole sport through them. Any individual stat from goals scored right down to pass completion, ground covered, zonal coverage etc etc etc - any stat - is partially related to the specific team they're playing in. If Arsenal change half their team in the off-season, we've no idea whether any of Robin van Persie's stats stay constant. A striker scoring a goal every two games for Arsenal doesn't mean he'll score at a similar clip for Liverpool. A team could add a full 10% to their pass completion and create far less chances. A team of players that stand out in OPTA bullshit as Covering The Most Ground could be doing so because they're poo poo and always chasing the game, getting no possession. None of them mean anything unless you watch the games they come from, in which case you don't need to know whether they've 47 or 48% cross completion
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would it be a bit too meta to nominate posts from this thread FOR this thread?
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lol americans posted:The guessing game begins anew as the Premier League prepares to raise the curtain: Will it be new boys Norwich, or struggling Wigan? Can Swansea stay up or will they be forced right back down the ladder? From here
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Sounds about right. I mean who doesn't love American Sports?
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Clubs as storied as Cardiff.
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I'd like to see his complete list of professional sports: baseball, basketball, ice hockey, american football, soccer END
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