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In other news:quote:UNCLASSIFIED This CANFORGEN surprised the hell out of my office today. Expect an official announcement tomorrow. I get to use the RCN post nominal again!
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So is the army just the "Canadian Army", without any royal poo poo attached to it, because it's comprised chiefly of foot-slogging peasants rather than dashing air force or navy chaps with their hats at jaunty angles?
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Lassitude posted:So is the army just the "Canadian Army", without any royal poo poo attached to it, because it's comprised chiefly of foot-slogging peasants rather than dashing air force or navy chaps with their hats at jaunty angles? I would imagine that it's just following the naming conventions of the British military, eg British Army, Royal Navy, Royal Marine Corps, Royal Air Force. I've been trying to tease out why it's the British Army and not the Royal Army. I suspect that it has something to do with either it's relationship to Parliment, the New Model Army or who is placed at the top of it's chain of command.
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Aug 16, 2011 00:26
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In the army it's the individual units that get Royal recognition. Royal Canadian Regiment, Princess Patricia's etc.
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Aug 16, 2011 00:28
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Veins McGee posted:I would imagine that it's just following the naming conventions of the British military, eg British Army, Royal Navy, Royal Marine Corps, Royal Air Force. If I remember correctly it has to do with the history of armies forming and disbanding constantly. The entire British army could be comprised of many different types of soldiers/units. The navy was officially formed by a king, so it gets the Royal distinction.
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Aug 16, 2011 00:42
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Paul Hellyer must be spinning in his flying saucer right now. At this rate, in 50 years' time, I predict the return of the Black Watch the Grenadier Guards and the Rifles to active service.
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Aug 16, 2011 01:30
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quote:THESE WERE THE SERVICES THAT FOUGHT AND EMERGED VICTORIOUS FROM THE SECOND WORLD WAR AND KOREA AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE DEFENCE OF EUROPE AND NORTH AMERICA FROM THE EARLY DAYS OF THE COLD WAR. THESE WERE ALSO THE SERVICES THAT PAVED THE WAY IN TERMS OF INTERNATIONAL PEACEKEEPING MISSIONS Phase 2 of the plan is to resurrect Hitler to rebuild the Third Reich. Then we can finally go back to the glory days, trotting 'round the globe, saving and banging foreign babes in equal measure, all for Crown and Country.
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Aug 16, 2011 02:52
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Lassitude posted:Phase 2 of the plan is to resurrect Hitler to rebuild the Third Reich. Then we can finally go back to the glory days, trotting 'round the globe, saving and banging foreign babes in equal measure, all for Crown and Country. Hell yeah I'd be down for that. Wait a minute. Does that mean the Corn Flake is now an endangered badge? Thank god for that, nothing screams FNG than a cornflake.
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Aug 16, 2011 03:00
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But how will we know who to treat as sub-humans without the cornflake? edit: Actually, now I'm curious if down the line they'll stop mixed trade BMQs/SQ and go back to the old model of seperate boot camps for each branch. Barrakketh fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Aug 16, 2011 |
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Aug 16, 2011 03:17
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Barrakketh posted:But how will we know who to treat as sub-humans without the cornflake? I would kind of hope yes but at the same time that would mean less BMQ/SQs run every year. I like the USMC style of every member of the Canadian Military (Augh can't use CF anymore) being a rifleman. But then again for the most part non-army types won't really use rifles all that much, and could probably use more time on pistol training or something like that. On another note I got to shoot a HK P8 the other day and holy poo poo I wish we had those instead of BHPs it was butter-smooth to operate in DA/SA.
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Aug 16, 2011 04:08
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MA-Horus posted:(Augh can't use CF anymore) You sure can! They're only changing the name of the commands, still keeping the entirety branded the CF
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Aug 16, 2011 04:18
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MA-Horus posted:Hell yeah I'd be down for that. Don't forget that without them what are we supposed to tape to the nose of an arty shell when you've graduated to the Big Boy badge during the confirmation Ex, followed by gleefully firing it downrange?
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Aug 16, 2011 06:03
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This is entirely a symbolic name change. Nothing will actually change day to day. Same combined boot camps, same cornflakes. As My Spirit Otter pointed out the CF remains unified. All that happened is that we are now using the old names of the separate services that the CF 'voluntarily' stopped using after unification. We never actually 'disbanded' either the RCN or the RCAF (which is why the government didn't need to seek royal assent to start calling the Navy and Airforce Royal again), just renamed the commands and told everyone they couldn't use the old titles.
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Aug 16, 2011 06:15
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Vadoc posted:Don't forget that without them what are we supposed to tape to the nose of an arty shell when you've graduated to the Big Boy badge during the confirmation Ex, followed by gleefully firing it downrange? True, so very true. I thought they stopped doing that, some horseshit about damage to the guns.
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Lt. Jebus posted:This is entirely a symbolic name change. Nothing will actually change day to day. Same combined boot camps, same cornflakes. As My Spirit Otter pointed out the CF remains unified. They didn't voluntarily change it. The newly formed 'elements' of the CF were styled commands and given distinctive names AIRCOM and MARCOM survived to this day, however some of the others changed around. Land Forces was originally Force Mobile Command, there was a Transport Command, and Communications Command was formed around the same time Transport Command was merged into AIRCOM. FMC was renamed to Land Forces Command under Chretien. The second point about not needed renewed Royal Patronage is spot on, though. Sure, it's symbolic, but then again a lot of other changes to the military have been symbolic. The introduction of DEUs and restoration of naval ranks under Mulroney were effectively symbolic changes, but I don't see anyone complaining that MARCOM hasn't been having green-suited generals for the past fifteen years.
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Visited the Korean War History museum the other day I find myself wishing the navy could buy Korean-designed ships because jaysus they're armed to the teeth. Fore and aft VLS, Harpoons, SPY/SPQ radar, two-car garage...massive ships. Also saw bits of the Cheonan, gently caress that ship was just blown in HALF by that torpedo. Makes me wish the US had actually let off an ADCAP at Huron in that live-fire ex, it'd be interesting to see how one of our destroyers would handle a torpedo. Probably just as badly.
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PantlessBadger posted:They didn't voluntarily change it. The newly formed 'elements' of the CF were styled commands and given distinctive names AIRCOM and MARCOM survived to this day, however some of the others changed around. Land Forces was originally Force Mobile Command, there was a Transport Command, and Communications Command was formed around the same time Transport Command was merged into AIRCOM. FMC was renamed to Land Forces Command under Chretien. My "Voluntary" was meant to be taken sarcastically (as in not voluntary). Probably should have italicized. As for the comment about symbolism, my post was in response to the people that thought this was a real organizational change in the Forces. MA-Horus posted:Also saw bits of the Cheonan, gently caress that ship was just blown in HALF by that torpedo. Makes me wish the US had actually let off an ADCAP at Huron in that live-fire ex, it'd be interesting to see how one of our destroyers would handle a torpedo. Probably just as badly. A single Mk-48 will pretty much instantly put down anything less than an Aircraft Carrier, which it would probably cripple and slowly sink as well unless the DC org is really on its game.
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Lt. Jebus posted:My "Voluntary" was meant to be taken sarcastically (as in not voluntary). I got the sarcasm, at least. I know that nobody in the CF does anything anything voluntarily
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My Spirit Otter posted:I got the sarcasm, at least. I know that nobody in the CF does anything anything voluntarily Don't you just love getting VolunTold to do something at random when you're pretending to be busy for the exact purpose of not getting volunteered?
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Vadoc posted:Don't you just love getting VolunTold to do something at random when you're pretending to be busy for the exact purpose of not getting volunteered? Hell yes! Another week in Wainwright, sign me up! Oh wait, you already did! To be fair, it's an extremely easy go for us. Sleeping in the shacks everynight, less sentry(that SLEEPS(in a tent) by the the guns everynight). Also using LG1 instead of M777, gently caress YES(Any artyman that has worked M777 and 105mm knows this is amazing). We also have 150 rounds between 2 guns. This is probably the most Gucci field ex I have been on in almost 2 years. I'm excited for a field ex, this coming from a person that was gung ho to get out.
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My Spirit Otter posted:Hell yes! Another week in Wainwright, sign me up! Oh wait, you already did! gently caress you forever
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My Spirit Otter posted:Hell yes! Another week in Wainwright, sign me up! Oh wait, you already did! On the ex I was just on we were augmenting some armoured guys. Mod tents, a canteen, barbecues EVERYWHERE. It felt so WRONG to me. 
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if you're not living out of the back of your gun tractors while eating bags of apples and drinking from costco bottles of water because supply completely forgot to sterilize your water buffalo or procure enough IMPs for a week long ex you're not on ex. Oh and firing howitzer blanks because "it's just the same as with rifle blanks!" gently caress you gently caress you gently caress you gently caress you gently caress you enjoy having no shitter paper because we TOOK IT ALL TO CLEAN THE GUNS.
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we are in this together! the civilian and soldier makes a neat teeter totter in which CANADA is allowed to balance on.
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MusicJustus posted:we are in this together! the civilian and soldier makes a neat teeter totter in which CANADA is allowed to balance on. What? How high are you?
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Veins McGee posted:I've been trying to tease out why it's the British Army and not the Royal Army. I suspect that it has something to do with either it's relationship to Parliment, the New Model Army or who is placed at the top of it's chain of command. Bit late I know, but it's because the British Army is maintained by an act of Parliament (The Army and more recently Armed Forces Acts) that needs to be renewed every so often rather than Royal assent as actually having a standing army breaches some other ludicrously old law or some bollocks like that. Our Commander-in-chief is still HM The Queen though.
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MusicJustus posted:we are in this together! the civilian and soldier makes a neat teeter totter in which CANADA is allowed to balance on. Right on, brother! Remeber to spread the word, we're parental liberators and not baby-killers
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Does anyone know about being a Nursing Officer in the reserves? I'm an RN and think the military may be something I am interested in. The problem is that most of my experience is in community health so I worry that I won't be a good candidate without ER/acute care experience. Will the military provide me with that training? I found some information in this booklet: cdn.forces.ca/_PDF2010/00195_nursingofficer_res_en.pdf I have pretty extensive experience working with individuals who have physical and mental health problems as a result of military service through my civilian job. Would these skills, though not direct med/surg skills, be beneficial in entering this position? my morning jackass fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Sep 2, 2011 |
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Anyone else going to be at CFSAC? We'll be the team there not wearing our sweet team baseball hats.  We're taking part in NSCC at the moment in Connaught - the range is ridiiiiiculously large. Today we ran the FIBUA matches, which included a rapid shoot at 25m - 3x3sec exposures, in which time you have to fire 10 shots on a fig 14 (hun's head). Watching the rangers do that with what amounts to a museum piece is awesome. Some of them even managed to get 9 out of 10 shots on target. Also, falling plates matches are awesome. Do not let anyone tell you otherwise.
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Ghost of Castro posted:Does anyone know about being a Nursing Officer in the reserves? I'm an RN and think the military may be something I am interested in. The problem is that most of my experience is in community health so I worry that I won't be a good candidate without ER/acute care experience. Will the military provide me with that training? I've met army medics whose day jobs are IT and computer programming. Your prior medical experience will be useful when you're learning by firehose at medic school, but nobody will care and it certainly won't negatively impact the recruitment process. The military doesn't expect to recruit and train people already working in a given trade (like medics and pilots). There are some exceptions like dental and legal trades but those are freak occurrences.
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I had a friend in basic who was an RN. She told me that she re-learned everything in DP1, so I guess it doesn't matter what you know. She gets a real kick from her job though, so it must be at least decent. On a seperate note, does anyone know if the new combats we are getting are button up or zipper style?
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My Spirit Otter posted:I had a friend in basic who was an RN. She told me that she re-learned everything in DP1, so I guess it doesn't matter what you know. She gets a real kick from her job though, so it must be at least decent. On a seperate note, does anyone know if the new combats we are getting are button up or zipper style? AFAICT they're zipper and velcro, at least from the powerpoint earlier in the thread. Apparently you can be injured by falling on a button 
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Canuck-Errant posted:AFAICT they're zipper and velcro, at least from the powerpoint earlier in the thread. Apparently you can be injured by falling on a button I didn't see any mention of that in the ppt earlier in the thread. However, if it is zipper I'm already jizzin' my panties. No more will I get yelled at for taking my shirt off like a sweater. Under my last BSM that was actually an issue.
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My Spirit Otter posted:I didn't see any mention of that in the ppt earlier in the thread. However, if it is zipper I'm already jizzin' my panties. No more will I get yelled at for taking my shirt off like a sweater. Under my last BSM that was actually an issue. Man I don't think I ever unbuttoned my tunic, why would you? I hate nit-picky SMs, find something legit to bitch about and then work at it.
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Your tunic buttons hairs is in violation of the grooming standard. For real though, what kind of scrub ever undoes all the buttons? That's the first corner anyone in the CF probably learns to cut.
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Thanks for the responses, it's really appreciated. I have been feeling the need to re-orient my life and career so maybe the reserves will be an opportunity to challenge myself. What is DP1?
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DP1 is your first career course, I think. I get confused with all the name changes.
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Yeah, this is correct.
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Actually I don't mind loosing the buttons. I was throwing a bundled up cam net off a LAV because we needed to re-tie it and it caught on the button on my sleeve and almost took me with it. If my combats hadn't torn I would have been in a world of hurt. Plus I can't even count how many push-ups we had to do on course because people had undone buttons on their combats.
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Ghost of Castro posted:Thanks for the responses, it's really appreciated. I have been feeling the need to re-orient my life and career so maybe the reserves will be an opportunity to challenge myself. My cousin just finished Basic Military Officer Qualification and he's going RN. But, unfortunately he knows basically as much as you do about what it will be like. I can help answer questions you may have, but he probably does not know much.
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