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gravyflood posted:Yeah but everyone has a Wii. Dragon Quest is a system seller in Japan. It really doesn't matter what platform a numbered DQ game is announced for; the installed base will be there, ready to go for launch day. Also, Horii makes his platform decisions based on the Japanese market, which is why DQ9 came out on the DS. So while everyone has a Wii, it may not matter to Horii.
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Here's the thing. In Japan, everyone can and does play Dragon Quest. Unlike over here, games aren't seen as just a young male thing. So wii's irrelevance while at the same time being system of choice, remember Japan is their target audience, doesn't amount to much because ultimately, wii is the console with the most sales in Japan and DQ only ever hits the most popular system at that time. It was announced for wii years ago. Just buy a wii for cheap and stop complaining, because the stage is set. I wish they'd put it on psp instead, myself, but that's not happening. At least with the wii, we have a chance of it coming to the west with Nintendo as a publisher.
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Sep 4, 2011 00:58
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Himuro posted:At least with the wii, we have a chance of it coming to the west with Nintendo as a publisher. I don't think we're in any danger of missing out on any Dragon Quest games regardless of system. I mean, there were 5 and 6 on Super Famicom, but DQ has seen such a resurgence in the past several years that we're even getting some Monopoly-type game with Dragon Quest characters over here.
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I just wanted to step in here and say that I consider the original Deus Ex one of my favorite games of all time. I was stoked when the prequel came out and enjoyed every minute playing it. Adult, serious and touching upon deeper meaning than most games these day, I believe together they compromise one of the finest gaming experiences in recent memory. That said, I would throw both of the discs into a stump grinder to be able to play DQM: Joker 2 right now. Then I can breed my own lil' slimes and drackys and make 'em fight  Seriously, DQM: Joker is the best DS game. This is not an opinion.
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Terpfen posted:Dragon Quest is a system seller in Japan. It really doesn't matter what platform a numbered DQ game is announced for; the installed base will be there, ready to go for launch day. Also, Horii makes his platform decisions based on the Japanese market, which is why DQ9 came out on the DS. Actually, that's exactly what matters, DQX for 3DS, Wii-U or Vita would definitly sell quite a few systems but he's made a point to always chose the system with the biggest, already existing install base.
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John Luebke posted:Actually, that's exactly what matters, DQX for 3DS, Wii-U or Vita would definitly sell quite a few systems but he's made a point to always chose the system with the biggest, already existing install base. This is true. The problem here is whether or not DQ10 will come out for the abandoned system (Wii) or will come out for the system with the largest supported install base (probably PS3 at this point). We'll see soon!
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Terpfen posted:The problem here is whether or not DQ10 will come out for the abandoned system (Wii) or will come out for the system with the largest supported install base (probably PS3 at this point). This isn't even a question. It WILL be released for Wii. S-E basically confirmed as much, again, about two months ago. There is nothing left to wonder or rationalize.
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Dog Toggle Switch posted:That said, I would throw both of the discs into a stump grinder to be able to play DQM: Joker 2 right now. You know Nintendo's releasing this, like, really soon, right?
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You could also say that 7 of 9 DQ titles have come out for Nintendo consoles. As well as all the recent DQ games. Thus DQ X would most likely come out on a Nintendo console.
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Sep 4, 2011 18:38
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In Japan, DQ7 was released on PS1 nearly a half year after PS2's release. So much for releasing a DQ on "an abandoned system." The situation's identical for X. Besides, since WiiU's backwards compatible, there's no real benefit to NCL to have X be a WiiU exclusive. If people needed to buy a Wii to play, they can just as easily buy WiiU instead. (That said, it would probably benefit NCL the most if X came out after WiiU's release so people won't preemptively buy Wii instead of waiting for WiiU.) I'm also willing to bet the installed user base of Wii is far larger than that of PS3 in Japan and worldwide.
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Sep 4, 2011 19:02
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Not only that, as far as I'm aware the Wii is the only home console that sold really well in Japan this gen.
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Doug Dinsdale posted:In Japan, DQ7 was released on PS1 nearly a half year after PS2's release. So much for releasing a DQ on "an abandoned system." Couple of reasons for this. One, DQ7 was chronically delayed. It wound up coming out almost two years (IIRC) after its originally projected release date. And two, the PS2 was not quite a juggernaut in its first year of life. So much for so much.
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Terpfen posted:Couple of reasons for this. One, DQ7 was chronically delayed. It wound up coming out almost two years (IIRC) after its originally projected release date. And two, the PS2 was not quite a juggernaut in its first year of life. DQ titles have always taken a ridiculously long time to develop. It's been that way since V. Also, I was with Enix USA during DW7's gestation period. It came close to being delayed even longer when Horii hit the ceiling about the poo poo graphic quality way late in the development. (He was grudgingly appeased by the inclusion of several new animated cutscenes.) Because he was so pissed about DQ7, he demanded that 8's development be put out to competitive bidding by developers instead of letting Heartbeat do it again. Heartbeat got pissed and walked out on Enix, which is why the PS1 DW4 localization project fell apart after I'd already started on it. So, anyway, if a project is already delayed on one platform, why would Enix and its shareholders be willing to eat even more delays and forego income so they can put it out on an unproven platform with currently zero user base? I'd love to see the Enix board meeting where anyone tries to sell such insanity. And two, WiiU's not even released, so it's even less of a juggernaut than PS2.
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Heartbeat "got pissed"? Did they think they had a leg to stand on, or that anyone was going to hire them again?
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Heartbeat closed up shop and immediately rebranded themselves as Genius Sonority. They went onto make GC Pokemon Colosseum, Pokemon XD, DS Pokemon Trozei, Wii Pokemon Battle Revolution, among others. They even got back in on the good side of SqEnix, producing Wii Dragon Quest Sword.
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Doug Dinsdale posted:DQ titles have always taken a ridiculously long time to develop. It's been that way since V. VII was especially noteworthy for its lengthy development, though, is my point. quote:And two, WiiU's not even released, so it's even less of a juggernaut than PS2. I'm not advocating for DQ10's release on Wii U. In fact, I hope it doesn't come out on Wii U. I don't want to buy that thing.
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I didn't notice till now that Joker 2's release date is the 19th, on a Monday. That kind of blows the chance of Amazon doing release-date shipping out of the water. 
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Terpfen posted:I'm not advocating for DQ10's release on Wii U. In fact, I hope it doesn't come out on Wii U. I don't want to buy that thing. The point was that Wii is in less of a "situation" than PSX was at the same time of DQVII's release. That is to say, there is no reason DQX shouldn't be on Wii (really), and there is no reason (from S-E) to suggest it won't. EDIT: EDIT2: I am a loving child, but looked myself because google is easy, and gently caress, videogames. http://www.joystiq.com/2011/09/02/square-enix-streaming-reveal-of-new-dragon-quest-next-week/ Linked to an article so people can pick ustream or nico video if you know, whatever. Kiggles fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Sep 5, 2011 |
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Sep 5, 2011 04:47
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Watching the start of it on Ustream, but still no sound. 
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Sound just kicked in. Looks like they're getting ready to roll. EDIT: Yeah, this is for DQ10. "NEXT" Policenaut fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Sep 5, 2011 |
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Sep 5, 2011 05:58
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Berserker Demon!
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It looks like an MMORPG. Horii: "It's a Wii online RPG. One that people can log in and out casually." Multiple races including Ogres, Wedi, Elves, Humans. Produced & developed in house for the first time ever. Doug Dinsdale fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Sep 5, 2011 |
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Sep 5, 2011 06:17
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So Dragon Quest X is an mmo for wii.
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So, I can't understand half of what they are saying, just saw a neat trailer for DQX. What system is it on after all? e: Wii MMO, gotcha. God knows how that's gonna work considering how bad Nintendo is at the Internet thing.
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Maybe it's a single player game like PSO and Monster Hunter but you can go online to do quests and team up?
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Himuro posted:Maybe it's a single player game like PSO and Monster Hunter but you can go online to do quests and team up? Is Level 5 making it? If so, it'll probably be like White Knight Chronicles (bad) EDIT: Yeah like DQ9 works.
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Himuro posted:Maybe it's a single player game like PSO and Monster Hunter but you can go online to do quests and team up? That'd make sense considering how multiplayer with DQ9 worked.
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Himuro posted:Maybe it's a single player game like PSO and Monster Hunter but you can go online to do quests and team up? Or, like Dragon Quest IX.
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They just said your allies will be real players, so there goes that theory.
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If it really is an MMO, I hope there's PC support somewhere down the line. What are the odds an MMO for a dying system will get translated for outside Japan?
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Policenaut posted:Is Level 5 making it? If so, it'll probably be like White Knight Chronicles (bad) But will the story be bad stupid like WKC or good stupid like Layton?
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Captain Vittles posted:If it really is an MMO, I hope there's PC support somewhere down the line. What are the odds an MMO for a dying system will get translated for outside Japan? I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Level Slide posted:But will the story be bad stupid like WKC or good stupid like Layton? Level 5 has nothing to do with designing or writing Dragon Quest, that's pretty much Horii. Also, Level 5 has nothing to do with DQX. Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Sep 5, 2011 |
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Himuro posted:Level 5 has nothing to do with designing or writing Dragon Quest, that's pretty much Horii. And that means it's gonna be good. I'm not holding hope it's coming West, though. Maybe if it was single player, not a MMO. Also, kind of weird that after FFXI and FFXIV we now get an online main numbered Dragon Quest. Saoshyant fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Sep 5, 2011 |
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Level 5 isn't involved. X's developed entirely in-house for the first time in the series. Five continents peopled by the five races: ogres, elves, dwarfs, praline, wedi. Producer Saito: "Though an MMO, the scenario will not be thin." Different jobs, and job-change system. New jobs to be added after release. New quests to be added after release (like in IX). Seasonal special events to be conducted (such as Halloween, Xmas, new year's). Solo play & party play available.
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An MMO. On the Wii. Christ, I think whatever excitement I had has just completely deflated. EDIT - And yes, I'm well aware of Monster Hunter.
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A Dragon Quest MMO wouldn't sound that bad to me if: 1) They didn't pick what's been considered the worst of the online console platforms to release it on. 2) The same company behind it wasn't already struggling with running two other MMOs, one of which is practically free at this point and was criticized for being gimped on content upon launch.
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Read this: "14:30: The next theme is things that may relieve those worried about online games. You'll be able to logout easily, for instance. You won't have to play with others -- the game can be cleared 100% on your own, using NPC characters. The commands will be familiar." So you CAN play this in single player.
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My world... my world is just... please just let me build and customize my own party of dudes and go on an epic classic fantasy adventure across the world. I don't mind if that adventure is a little dry. Just let me make a party of my own dudes.  Himuro posted:Read this: "14:30: The next theme is things that may relieve those worried about online games. You'll be able to logout easily, for instance. You won't have to play with others -- the game can be cleared 100% on your own, using NPC characters. The commands will be familiar." 
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