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Thanks for posting about that deal. Perfect Christmas gift for my mom who's a huge political junkie but has never seen the show.
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Too bad I just bought two seasons. However, the fiancee and I used this Labor Day weekend to binge on West Wing. I'm halfway through season 6, and I'm loving the new election focus. The episode where CJ becomes Chief of Staff is hilarious, too, mostly for Margaret.
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Sep 6, 2011 01:55
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Chamberk posted:Too bad I just bought two seasons. That entire sequence with CJ getting her Secret Service detail at her house and then going to work is great.
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Sep 6, 2011 04:21
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Most of the best episodes of the last three seasons, were completely or mostly written by an up-and-coming writer named Debora Cahn, who was Sorkin's protege during season four and wrote the characters in his tone. Here's her list of TWW writing credits: Jefferson Lives Abu el Banat The Supremes No Exit Liftoff Impact Winter Drought Conditions The Ticket Undecideds The Cold Requiem Institutional Memory She ended up on Grey's Anatomy, where she's written most of that show's best episodes of the last few years too. Brad Whitford wrote Faith Based Initiative and Internal Displacement and he pretty much had the right character beats down too. The rest of the seasons five through seven writing teams was very hit and miss.
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Sep 6, 2011 04:35
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There is nothing more humbling than the moment the president gives Charlie the carving knife. Nothing.
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Sep 6, 2011 09:57
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Why is it so utterly heart-wrenching every single time I re-watch and it's the moment that Donna tells Josh that his father died. Bartlett moments before hand gave him a hard time and Josh thought he was a son of a bitch. Bartlett then turns up at the airport hours later and tells him he realises he's been a jackass and "..do you want me to go with you? I'll get a ticket and keep you company on the plane." Then Leo walks over and he says, "I'm ready." I love this show so much. Cheesy as hell at times, but amazing.
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Sep 8, 2011 02:18
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Yeah it's cheese but it works for some reason. I literally roll my eyes when I see that one episode in the first season where they all go around in a circle and say "I serve at the pleasure of the president". Those kinds of things accompany the great moments of the series though so it's no big deal.
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Sep 8, 2011 17:54
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Sep 8, 2011 18:26
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Arnie Vinnick's nuclear plant is offline right now. 
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Sep 9, 2011 01:45
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Where I am, he just talked some straight poo poo about corn. Season 6 has been quite good.
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The Gunslinger posted:Yeah it's cheese but it works for some reason. I literally roll my eyes when I see that one episode in the first season where they all go around in a circle and say "I serve at the pleasure of the president". Those kinds of things accompany the great moments of the series though so it's no big deal. Oh God yes, that's possibly the most cheesy moment there. I still think my favourite scene from the whole series is when Leo gets back from his deposition and it looks like he dodged the drugs and drink thing coming out in the hearing and Bartlett is waiting in his office with a christmas present that is the napkin with 'Bartlett for America' written on it from when he asked him to run and Bartlett says: "That was awfully nice of you," and walks off to his office and Leo sits down in tears. Dear God, I'm a woman.
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Stuface posted:Oh God yes, that's possibly the most cheesy moment there. It is Sorkin, Schlamme, and John Spencer. John Spencer is barely holding it together during the episode, but when it gets to this part he starts SOBBING while talking about it.
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Sep 12, 2011 02:27
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What is he sobbing about?
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TheBigBad posted:What is he sobbing about?
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Sep 12, 2011 03:53
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TheBigBad posted:What is he sobbing about?
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The Gunslinger posted:Yeah it's cheese but it works for some reason. I literally roll my eyes when I see that one episode in the first season where they all go around in a circle and say "I serve at the pleasure of the president". Those kinds of things accompany the great moments of the series though so it's no big deal. No no no, the worst is when they all stand around the TV, CJ pops the bottle cap and says "come get us". Ugh. loving ugh. I really hope Sorkin didn't write that bit because it's absolute trash. Most of the show is above that sort of stuff though.
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The worst eye rolling moments for me are the way the show veers into weird war porn now and then for no real reason
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There's also the scene where they all get together for beers on a porch, and one character says "what do you say about a country where (something bad)", and everyone takes turns saying "God bless America." But at the same time, utter cheese like that fits in with my view of the show, and if I have said this 3 or 4 times before I do apologize, but I always describe The West Wing as "a show about how I wish the world worked."
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Yeah they describe it in the commentary at one point as a "romantic" show or something along those lines. I'm pretty sure it was contrasting the way the show works earlier on with how it works later compare the look and feel of the show (really bright, light, and almost slapstick funny) in the first season to the political hellscape of the convention center at the end of season 6
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Sep 12, 2011 10:15
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We had a couple things at our campaign office that would have you guys rolling eyes and shouting SORKIN!!! if they were in the show. The personalities that go far in politics (at least on the campaigning side) have a higher level of cheese than normal people, in my experience.
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The biggest cheese moment that still jumps out at me is Bartlet's takedown of the Laura Schlessinger-lookalike at the radio broadcasting dinner. The whole "quote Leviticus back at the bigot" is so email-forwardy, though I suppose at the time it aired it may have seemed more novel.
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Monkeyseesaw posted:The biggest cheese moment that still jumps out at me is Bartlet's takedown of the Laura Schlessinger-lookalike at the radio broadcasting dinner. The whole "quote Leviticus back at the bigot" is so email-forwardy, though I suppose at the time it aired it may have seemed more novel. Aaron Sorkin admits he lifted the diatribe from a much forwarded anonymous email to begin with! He hunted for the source to give credit, but couldn't find it.
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Grand Fromage posted:We had a couple things at our campaign office that would have you guys rolling eyes and shouting SORKIN!!! if they were in the show. The personalities that go far in politics (at least on the campaigning side) have a higher level of cheese than normal people, in my experience. I've always imagined politicians disdain the public when they aren't near them. So like instead of saying "we have to help people!!!" behind closed doors they'd be saying like "what the gently caress do these bastards want from me all they do is complain" or something. But I guess that's cynical? Or maybe they only do it when there's like one or two trusted people around, I guess it's not something you'd say around staff. But I bet it happens!!
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myron_cope posted:I've always imagined politicians disdain the public when they aren't near them. So like instead of saying "we have to help people!!!" behind closed doors they'd be saying like "what the gently caress do these bastards want from me all they do is complain" or something. But I guess that's cynical? The one I worked for didn't (which is why I genuinely liked working for her), but I'm sure a lot do. Though one of the best moments in the office was when she was on the phone with one of the local bigwigs that you have to suck up to but everybody hates. In the middle of the strained-pleasant conversation she starts doing the jerk off hand motion, and even finished with the jizz splash.
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Monkeyseesaw posted:The biggest cheese moment that still jumps out at me is Bartlet's takedown of the Laura Schlessinger-lookalike at the radio broadcasting dinner. The whole "quote Leviticus back at the bigot" is so email-forwardy, though I suppose at the time it aired it may have seemed more novel. I always liked that one. Seems like quoting more than a dozen passages of scripture of the top of his head is something Bartlet would do.
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Just finished season 6. The scene with Leo going on stage with Santos got me a little teary-eyed, I'm gonna be honest. Especially since I know how that ends up going.
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:Luckily, doesn't change my enjoyment of the show. Just started watching it again last night. No, Sam, don't reform the hooker! Next episode: Tomorrow. I gotta get a more demanding job. Yeesh.
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I've watched this show's entire run through... gently caress, 7 or 8 times now, and just binge-read this thread. One thing I didn't see mentioned is Sam's thing about going to Mars in Galileo - "You wanna know why we should go to Mars? 'Cause it's next. 'Cause we came out of the cave and we looked over the hill and we saw fire. And we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the West and we took to the sky. The history of man is hung on a timeline of exploration, and this is what's next." God, I loving wish someone in government would say that in real life.
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:There's also the scene where they all get together for beers on a porch, and one character says "what do you say about a country where (something bad)", and everyone takes turns saying "God bless America." That's the second worst. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXmRYJwK3wM&t=108s Someone please post the mash-up that ends with The Who's YEEAAAAAAAAAA. Ur Getting Fatter posted:Bruno's speech pattern where he emphasizes. Every. Word. Annoys the heck out of me. It would annoy me if it was anyone but Ron Silver, the man can turn a mildly critical statement into a vicious scathing rebuke with nary more than tone and inflection. Him tearing into Josh for bungling the tobacco issue in 3x02 is phenomenal. BklynBruzer posted:I've watched this show's entire run through... gently caress, 7 or 8 times now, and just binge-read this thread. One thing I didn't see mentioned is Sam's thing about going to Mars in Galileo - "You wanna know why we should go to Mars? 'Cause it's next. 'Cause we came out of the cave and we looked over the hill and we saw fire. And we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the West and we took to the sky. The history of man is hung on a timeline of exploration, and this is what's next." I'm sure there are some that do, but they either say it in private due to politics, or they say it in public but have no mainstream presence. (Re: The post below me - You rock Mu Zeta!) kalensc fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Sep 18, 2011 |
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I made it a few weeks ago. This scene is loving terrible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOzG1W4eYPo
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BklynBruzer posted:I've watched this show's entire run through... gently caress, 7 or 8 times now, and just binge-read this thread. One thing I didn't see mentioned is Sam's thing about going to Mars in Galileo - "You wanna know why we should go to Mars? 'Cause it's next. 'Cause we came out of the cave and we looked over the hill and we saw fire. And we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the West and we took to the sky. The history of man is hung on a timeline of exploration, and this is what's next." Speaking of Sam I was surprised to find out that Sorkin saw himself as Sam in the show, it explains why he has some of the most inspiring speeches. I really liked his thing about education. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yhAxtcJSso I bet Mallory put out that night
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If we're all posting our Rob Lowe spank material, here's mine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_oo39VgwwI&feature=player_detailpage#t=388s Thinking of that moment is what usually gets me to want to rewatch the series.
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Leo & His Rapier Wit (The second and fifth can't be embedded. And yet I choose not to care.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h8OnuZbTOg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usA2OGfxP7k&t=58s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZwpJ4KEByY&t=76s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-113WzilNA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzlZBHVrSmo&t=20s
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Sep 18, 2011 03:51
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Margarets egg joke is the best part of the show.
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spe posted:Margarets egg joke is the best part of the show. This is my favorite joke of anywhere.
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withak posted:This is my favorite joke of anywhere.
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Mu Zeta posted:I made it a few weeks ago. This scene is loving terrible. You forgot how to spell "loving ultra badarse"
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kalensc posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzlZBHVrSmo&t=20s "I should have locked her in the dungeon." "I don't think you've got one, sir." "I could've built one!" I love this goddamned show. Also, I'm rewatching Hartsfield's Landing, and somehow I didn't notice at all that they're acting like it's the general election a full season or so (mid-3 to mid-4) before the general happens. EDIT: Jesus Christ, rewatching The Supremes and this is about 1 or 2 pieces of clothing away from being straight up porn to me. BrooklynBruiser fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Sep 19, 2011 |
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I finished my first of what I presume will be many watch-throughs today. What a fantastic show this is (I started right about when this thread was created). With all the talk about the drop-off in quality after Sorkin leaves, I expected a lot worse. Of course, when watching on DVD, a weak episode has less of an effect since you don't have to mull over it and can just go on to the next episode. But I have to say, even with that in mind, the only time this show even came close to being mediocre was the middle of season 5. It can't be stressed enough what a fantastic addition Alan Alda was. The whole campaigning storyline really revitalized the show. I'd say my favourite seasons are 4 and 7, and it's certainly not that common that the final season of a long running show can be rated that high. It was a bit sad to see some of the central characters get pushed aside over time. I can see why Rob Lowe left, and I'm surprised Dulé Hill stuck around until the end, considering they didn't give him anything to do after the Zoe kidnapping. One question about the final season: I read somewhere in this thread that Toby's diminished role had to do with Richard Schiff not being as available as he was before. It's also been mentioned a few times that the writers simply didn't know how to write for his character anymore. Are these just speculations or is there any proof for either?
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DominoDancing posted:I finished my first of what I presume will be many watch-throughs today. What a fantastic show this is (I started right about when this thread was created). With all the talk about the drop-off in quality after Sorkin leaves, I expected a lot worse. Of course, when watching on DVD, a weak episode has less of an effect since you don't have to mull over it and can just go on to the next episode. But I have to say, even with that in mind, the only time this show even came close to being mediocre was the middle of season 5. I'm not sure, but I really hate what they did with Toby's character. He was one of my favorites early on, and from when Josh left to go on the trail with Santos, Toby 's characterization just took a steep dive into the shitter. Quoted from wikipedia (the most reliable source, obvs) Schiff had previously publicly praised the show's writers—and Sorkin in particular—for the richness of the characters in the series. However, during the show's final season, Schiff says he felt let down by the writers as some of his episodes were cut "purely on a financial decision." He was particularly critical of the military shuttle leak storyline, which saw his character indicted for leaking classified information. "Toby would never in 10 million years have betrayed the president in that fashion," says Schiff. "Even if he had, there would have been seven episodes' worth of fights before he did it." He justified the story to himself by reasoning that Toby was covering for somebody else. (from this apparently)
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